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    $800 to Spend on Wheels - American Classic AM or ?

    I'm about ready to pull the trigger on the AC AM 29er wheel set but I figured before I drop this kind of money I'd ask the group about other options at this price point. I'm not opposed to designs with straight pull spokes but unless they offer an advantage beyond bling I'm not sure they are worth the possible hassle of parts/tech availability. And a lot of these designs have a low spoke count which sounds risky at my size (250lbs with pack). Iím currently riding the DT 520SLs that came on my Stumpjumper FSR and I canít say they have caused me any trouble over the last season and a half but they do seem to have some lateral flex. I ride XC to AM, a few small drops, no big air but I do charge through the rough. Iím hoping to find something as strong as (or stronger) than my current setup but wider, stiffer and maybe just a bit lighter.

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    I love my AC AM 29ers. I've been running them since February, and your riding sounds very similar to my style. I have no problems with them. They're light, strong/stiff, and I love the wide rims. I swapped out the the rear to a thru-bolt, so I never ran them with QRs. The two drawbacks I see-- the front hub is either QR to QR15 OR 20mm-- you gotta pick, so that limits you somewhat. If you love instant engagement in a rear hub, this isn't the wheel set for you. I went from I9s (high engagement) to these, and while I noticed the difference, it never has never bothered me.

    Hope that helps! I think if you shop around, you might be able to find a deal on them... I think I got mine on sale for under $700.
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    I'd go King or Hadley on WTB Frequency i23 rims with double butted spokes (DT, Wheelsmith, Sapim). Hubs are an increase in engagement (24 vs 72), stronger, and US made. Rims are UST spec compatible which is great for all the tubeless ready tires out there now for 29ers.

    Heavier than the AC wheelset, but for a Clyde it shouldn't be a big deal.

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    i went with hadley and stans rims
    EXTREMELY happy with the set up
    fast engagement, stiff responsive wheel
    check the website in my sig , i bought my wheel from him and highly recommend him
    way under your budget

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    check out bike29.com also. can get industry 9s or chris kings on any stans rims for nearly your budget. free shipping and comes with a quart of sealant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    I'd go King or Hadley on WTB Frequency i23 rims with double butted spokes (DT, Wheelsmith, Sapim). Hubs are an increase in engagement (24 vs 72), stronger, and US made. Rims are UST spec compatible which is great for all the tubeless ready tires out there now for 29ers.

    Heavier than the AC wheelset, but for a Clyde it shouldn't be a big deal.
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    I'd third mtnbiker72's suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    i went with hadley and stans rims
    EXTREMELY happy with the set up
    fast engagement, stiff responsive wheel
    check the website in my sig , i bought my wheel from him and highly recommend him
    way under your budget
    this is the set up I wanted, but my old shop couldn't get Hadleys so I sucked it up a went with Chris King hubs with Arch rims. Over your 800 budget, but just awesome wheels
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    I got a quote of around $750 shipped for
    Stan Flows
    Dt Spokes and nipples
    Hope 2 Evo hubs

    Keep in mind this was a while ago, so pricing may have changed

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    Hope Pro 2 Evos
    Dt Swiss spokes/nips
    Arch EX (same price as flows I believe)

    AWESOME wheels - but I cant compare to AM's or have I ever used king or hadley hubs.

    Got mine built and shipped for a shade over $600... couldnt beat it - had some $$ for other access by going this route

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    Thanks for all the info so far.

    The i23 rims look interesting might be worth further investigation.

    Iíd love to go with a highend hub but I donít see Hadleys or Kings in the mix for $800. And I know the Hopes have a pretty good rep but I was talking with my LBS, who build a pretty good wheel, and they said that they have had some recent issues with the Hopes and prefer not to build with them. They steered me toward DT Swiss or Shimano XT hubs.

    Looks like I still have some shopping to do.

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    DT Swiss are great hubs but also expensive depending on what model you're looking at
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    Quote Originally Posted by All_talk View Post

    Iíd love to go with a highend hub but I donít see Hadleys or Kings in the mix for $800

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    my wheels were much less than that
    contact Ghisallo Wheels - Custom Wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    my wheels were much less than that
    contact Ghisallo Wheels - Custom Wheels
    Thanks for the post. Looks good to me. What was your lead time?

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    that really depends on the availability of the parts and colors you want
    i believe mine took 10 days
    but the biggest reason to buy from him is the customer service
    i had a defect in the rim, not the builders fault. Larry took care of me with professionalism and speed.
    His prices are great, i basically paid for the hubs and rim. And got the spokes, labor and shipping for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    my wheels were much less than that
    contact Ghisallo Wheels - Custom Wheels
    Chris King Single Speed Rear and QR Front built to 29" Arch Rims. $722, appoximate weight 1942g.
    Thats a great price.
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    Check out the Sun Ringle Chrager Pro's at around $500.
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    You should be able to get King hubs and Flows for close to that price. Shop around and don't be afraid to ask them to do better on their price. I'll take Kings over DT any day.
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    Just saw at Competitve Cyclist that list for that combo is $840. If thats true you should be able to make your $800 budget elsewhere.

    I built my King / Flows for less than $800.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    i went with hadley and stans rims
    EXTREMELY happy with the set up
    fast engagement, stiff responsive wheel
    check the website in my sig , i bought my wheel from him and highly recommend him
    way under your budget
    I sent Larry from Ghisallo Wheels an email for some pricing, and, damn, his wheels are cheap!!! Cheaper than any other site I've looked at including shipping! I'm gonna order Flow rims with Hadley hubs from him as soon as I get some toy fund.

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    you will love them, i love mine

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    Any chance you have a bit more to spend:

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    I went from i9 to 3 sets of Kings now to Hopes. I am very happy with the Hope/Flow combo and would highly recommend. I build my with DT spokes for under your price. Can't really bo wrong with Hope, King or Hadley and on Flows you should be able to meet that price if you shop it

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