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    Yup. Winters here. [0]

    and the trails are socked in but good.

    4" of snow + freezing rain + rain = a hard go. I tried though. This was the hardest 4 miles I've done in quite a while. I know 4 miles. Now I know why MC went through so much damned food. I only did this short little bit and ate a whole pizza. My whole aim was to start mapping these trails up in the hills out side of town. I've read claims of 50+ miles, but I feel like I've barely hit 25, if that.They must have them stashed in there pretty good or somthin'. I've been 'sploring for the whole summer up there, finding new links almost every ride.
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    There's the trail, snaking off into the woods. SO much more fun dry...and snow free.

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    Yup. Snow's holding the bike up. I wasn't exactly easy to ride through this crap. If it hadn't been raining for a few hours prior to me getting out...this may have actually been funner than it was.
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    [QUOTE=~martini~There's the trail, snaking off into the woods. SO much more fun dry...and snow free.[/QUOTE]

    ahhh, but when the snow conditions are just right...pure bliss! Better than dirt...sometimes.

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    Isn't riding in snow funky? Over here on the we(s)t side of the Cascade Mountains in Oregon, we get this wet cement that is really hard to ride through if it's any deeper than about 2". The other side of the range gets dry snow that, if fresh, can be ridden much deeper.

    Anyway, good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkenstein
    ahhh, but when the snow conditions are just right...pure bliss! Better than dirt...sometimes.
    I was lucky enough to be the third bike down the Sunrise Trail (from Packer Saddle, heading to D'ville) nearly two months ago on the first snow of the year. About 2.5-3" of fine light and sticky powder. Seemed like I could do no wrong, very possibly better than dirt.

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    Ack, I'd like some of that snow instead of the patches of ice I'm having to ride through right now.

    Had so many "oh shiiiet" moments yesterday you wouldn't believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico
    I was lucky enough to be the third bike down the Sunrise Trail (from Packer Saddle, heading to D'ville) nearly two months ago on the first snow of the year. About 2.5-3" of fine light and sticky powder. Seemed like I could do no wrong, very possibly better than dirt.
    We had a storm last year where the snow switched to freezing rain, and then the temperature dropped to the low 20's. The trails turned into a skate park; it was such a blast!

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    Looks good!

    Sure Marty! Ya wait until the snow is covering up everything before you post any of your backyard treasures.

    Looks fantastic! We got the granular, icy pellets at about a depth of three inches. I have to go ride it soon or it'll meld into one gigantic ice sheet once the sun hits it. Right now, it's like sand.

    I plan on riding a bit this afternoon, so if I get out I'll post up a pic or two.
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    I went out last weekend, and was amazed at the grip, but I think the conditions were near perfect. We had about 4" of newish snow over chunky frozen ice. I had about 25 psi in my Nevegals and never missed a beat. In fact,I had resigned myself to just deal with the ride and how much it was going to suck, but came away really stoked.
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    Steep climbs were a bit of a problem, but quick downhill switchbacks were awesome. Two wheel sliding is fun!
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    I would imagine that the Nokian tires would be pretty good for less than favorable conditions. I guess I'll have to see if I can "Stan's" them...

    I was riding the Intense 5.5 proto,and came away pleased with it's abilities.

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    CB2 - we could have something like that again by the end of the day on Monday. You can just feel it in the air - nasty weather is coming and soon.

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    Rode yesterday in just a light dusting of new snow; some big patches of packed snow and ice in some spots, though. Traction wasn't a problem even with the Kenda Short Trackers I've been running for commuting.

    At the moment, however, it's 24 degrees and snowing decently with 4 to 5" inches on the ground. Should be fun until Monday when the freezing rain is supposed to hit; for that I'll dig out a pair of old Tioga Factory DHs I studded ages ago. I'm sure I'll end up with that feeling before it's all said and done

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    Exactly what hills are you scouting out??? Is this Yellow River? Looks like some singletrack. I thought everything in YR was doubletrack/horsetrails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Monkey
    I was riding the Intense 5.5 proto,and came away pleased with it's abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    CB2 - we could have something like that again by the end of the day on Monday. You can just feel it in the air - nasty weather is coming and soon.
    That's cool, I'm taking tomorrow afternoon off!
    Rode this morning, and yeah it was chilly.
    On a positive note, I wasn't at my max of bundledness, and my hand were the only thing cold, but that has a lot to do with the wind-chill on the ride to the res.
    My buddy Al just got some Nokian 29'er studded tires!

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    Now y'all see why the eskimos had so many words for snow.

    Cool pics Marty, but I don't envy you the conditions--pushing through a couple of inches with a crust on top is damn hard work.

    My strategy for dealing with that in a race situation is to flop down and throw a fit. Once that's done, I'll set up a bivy, build a fire, and eat while waiting for someone else to pass me. Then I'll wait another hour before packing up and giving chase--you don't wanna catch them too soon. They're doing just fine breaking trail on their own...

    Do you switch to flats in the winter, or do you ride 'em year 'round?

    Hope to have some fresh winter shots later today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    and the trails are socked in but good.

    4" of snow + freezing rain + rain = a hard go.
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/martini.ss/LaRivShortLoopDec1/photo#5139243339374570098"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/martini.ss/R1JClpm2qnI/AAAAAAAACNM/CqzSzRn6_us/s800/DSC05887.JPG" /></a>

    I'm just east of you and I didn't even think of riding yesterday. BTW, is that a Suntour thumb shifter? I'm running an XC Comp thumb with a Sprint rear der for the winter. What's that set up with?
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    Big29 - Not Yellow River - there's only a short section of ST there -unfortunately. That place has stunning potential for mind bending singletrack. As does Volga Rec area. I wish the IA DNR would wake up to trail building....

    MC - Nice strategy! I switch to flat in the winter so I can wear boots. On road though I still have the Time's. I have Answer 'winter' shoes that work ok, but not great. Down to about 25ish, they're ok.

    Caffeine addict - suntour XC pro running an Ultegra rear. Works great!

    oh, and GT, I do have some pics of the 'backyard' I'll post on the blog today. They were shot with the P/S, so they're not that great, but you'll get the idea.
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    Winter came and went ...





    ... and certainly will come back again. My first snow ride on the Niner in mid November.
    blogging @29in.CH

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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous
    Winter came and went ...





    ... and certainly will come back again. My first snow ride on the Niner in mid November.
    Where is that at? reminds me of the first part of the singletrack of Butcher Ranch trail, D'ville

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29erchico
    Where is that at? reminds me of the first part of the singletrack of Butcher Ranch trail, D'ville
    At the foot of the Jura, Switzerland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collideous
    Winter came and went ...





    ... and certainly will come back again. My first snow ride on the Niner in mid November.
    Love the look of your bike! I have always been a fan of that orange!

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    and he has his bottle full of whiskey.....

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    Yup

    The Fatbike in it's element. 4.0 Endomorphs for softer snow but I have to go with a rigid fork for the big meats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikerx
    The Fatbike in it's element. 4.0 Endomorphs for softer snow but I have to go with a rigid fork for the big meats.
    Hey Jim; what's that thing like to pedal; shoot me a email, I've got some Surly questions. BTW, nice looking ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~
    and the trails are socked in but good.

    4" of snow + freezing rain + rain = a hard go. I tried though. This was the hardest 4 miles I've done in quite a while. I know 4 miles. Now I know why MC went through so much damned food. I only did this short little bit and ate a whole pizza. My whole aim was to start mapping these trails up in the hills out side of town. I've read claims of 50+ miles, but I feel like I've barely hit 25, if that.They must have them stashed in there pretty good or somthin'. I've been 'sploring for the whole summer up there, finding new links almost every ride.
    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/martini.ss/LaRivShortLoopDec1/photo#5139243244885289570"><img src="http://lh5.google.com/martini.ss/R1JCgJm2qmI/AAAAAAAACNE/takNbDp7WME/s800/DSC05886.JPG" /></a>


    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/martini.ss/LaRivShortLoopDec1/photo#5139243339374570098"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/martini.ss/R1JClpm2qnI/AAAAAAAACNM/CqzSzRn6_us/s800/DSC05887.JPG" /></a>
    There's the trail, snaking off into the woods. SO much more fun dry...and snow free.

    <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/martini.ss/LaRivShortLoopDec1/photo#5139243459633654418"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/martini.ss/R1JCspm2qpI/AAAAAAAACNc/4paDf9bYcXw/s800/DSC05889.JPG" /></a>
    Yup. Snow's holding the bike up. I wasn't exactly easy to ride through this crap. If it hadn't been raining for a few hours prior to me getting out...this may have actually been funner than it was.

    Hey I Live in Wisconsin, where is that trail at?

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    This one is in Prairie du Chien, on the west coast of Wisconsin. C'mon down and check it out some time!
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    heck yea, that is a sweet ride. do you have any problems with your marta's squealing in the cold? i've been riding mine in temps ranging from 0 to mid twenties and my marta's are squealing like crazy at first and then they warm up a little from some rubbing and it gets a little less. i'm either on my commute to school or bike ride on some wussie local trails for fun. just wondering. but i have to say again, sick bike!!!

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    Sweetness! We've been going out in packs, and snowshoeing the trails down. Got out for a first ride on them, with newly installed Nokian Gazza Extremes, (which Stan's up VERY well BTW) what a night for a ride! Love the conditions, and the tires. Nice benefit to what we're up to, if the snow goes bye bye, we've got sweet ice trails for the studs
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtimms
    heck yea, that is a sweet ride. do you have any problems with your marta's squealing in the cold? i've been riding mine in temps ranging from 0 to mid twenties and my marta's are squealing like crazy at first and then they warm up a little from some rubbing and it gets a little less. i'm either on my commute to school or bike ride on some wussie local trails for fun. just wondering. but i have to say again, sick bike!!!
    No squealing; it wasn't all that cold (I rode in shorts and knee warmers) and the downhills are steep.
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