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    Yelli Screamy by Canfield ?

    So I was checking out the Canfield website to see how they are progressing with the Nimble Nine and I see they are offering a new Aluminum alloy HT 29er model called the Yelli Screamy ! Geo sounds interesting : 16.7 " chainstays , 69 degree HTA w 100mm fork , and will come in a XL size as well for us taller peeps ! Man , even though I'm not really a big HT fan this frame sounds interesting for a nice little playbike ! TIG.
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    Knew this was coming, got to go check their site now.

    The Nimble 9 is still coming and last I heard it's another 2-3 months out.

    I was told that it looks a lot different than the original look and will be SS only.
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    Wow, I'm impressed! Now I'm even more eager to see the final Nimble 9 design.
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    Inter-resting...very inter-resting...

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    fantastic freakin name.

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    Cool geometry

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    http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/yelli-screamy

    holy that is what i have always wanted.
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    16.7" Chainstays!!!!!

    16.7" Chainstays, and way better looking than the Nimble 9...IMO.
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    Anybody find BB height?

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    Is this actually available, or just vapor ware like the Nimble 9 has proven to be thus far?


    Edit: It says "Buy Now." This looks like a great option in the hardtail arena. Very unique bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    Anybody find BB height?
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields
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    is this slacker than the Pardox using the same fork ?
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    However....

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Is this actually available, or just vapor ware like the Nimble 9 has proven to be thus far?


    Edit: It says "Buy Now." This looks like a great option in the hardtail arena. Very unique bike.

    ...If you click on "Buy Now," there isn't one to buy.
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    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by 20.100 FR
    is this slacker than the Pardox using the same fork ?
    The Paradox is 70d with a 100mm, 69d with 120mm. The CS are also shorter on the Yelli.

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    it comes in gold? I am so sold. Get these available flymybike!
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    Very interesting bike for sure and as Enel said, the geo chart really does give you everything and see what your particular size frame will actually look like, HOWEVER, too bad they have a web designer who doesn't seem to think that anyone uses over a 1024 resolution for their monitors I can hardly read the type on my 17" wide screen @ 1650 x 1050 and it's a jpeg, so you can't even scale it up using the font scaling feature in most browsers these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields
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    So forgive me a newb question, but for those of you who ride slacked out bikes with shorter stays, would you recommend the 120mm fork or the 100mm fork. I ask because the website highlights the HA with the 100mm fork. I'm wondering if that's what they, essentially, designed the frame around and are recommending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    BB drop is on the diagram (as is reach!!). 70mm for 487a-c fork gives you an estimated 11.75" with the short fork. I would guess around 12.5-13" with a 120mm fork

    That is possibly the most thorough geometry diagram I have ever seen. Well done Canfields

    Now we're talking. I originally looked at it and was scratching my head at the sub 12" resultant BB height. Forgot to take into account longer forks.

    16.7" cs + 12.7"(+) bb =

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesenator
    ...If you click on "Buy Now," there isn't one to buy.

    The Yelli Screamy's are finished. They have been on the boat for about 2 weeks.
    Should be here in about a week or so.

    The frame was designed for 80-120mm forks.
    I have a 100mm Fox float on mine running a 69 degree head angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cSquared
    The Yelli Screamy's are finished. They have been on the boat for about 2 weeks.
    Should be here in about a week or so.

    The frame was designed for 80-120mm forks.
    I have a 100mm Fox float on mine running a 69 degree head angle.

    Post up a pic or two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean salach
    Now we're talking. I originally looked at it and was scratching my head at the sub 12" resultant BB height. Forgot to take into account longer forks. 16.7" cs + 12.7"(+) bb =
    The spec sheet is a little unusual in that the length of the "80mm Fox fork" varies depending on frame size from 468mm for the XL to 487mm on the S. I can't make much sense of that.

    It seems safe to assume the BB drop is 70mm with a 468 fork (~11.75" BB depending on tires). A sagged 120mm fork has an a-c around 500mm, so BB drop would be around 57mm in the sagged position which puts you at 12.3" when riding the bike. Add 1/2" unsagged, if that is what you are used to looking at spec wise= 12.7"

    I think if I were designing a hardtail for me personally, it would not be far off this. I just re-measured the Simon Bar and it is 70mm BB drop and 70 degree HTA with a short rigid fork.
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    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs

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    Quote Originally Posted by djembe975
    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs
    I'm sure as long as there is a free bike involved we will get a glowing review from twentynineinches.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    So forgive me a newb question, but for those of you who ride slacked out bikes with shorter stays, would you recommend the 120mm fork or the 100mm fork. I ask because the website highlights the HA with the 100mm fork. I'm wondering if that's what they, essentially, designed the frame around and are recommending?

    I have a custom frame with 16.5 CS and a sagged HA at 69.5 (100mm) and 68.5 (120mm)
    The bike never feels sluggish in either position but it certainly climbs a bit better at 100mm. However I am sure that with some small cockpit adjustments I could get climbing just as good at 120mm. BTW, that is w/ a TALAS fork so I can switch back and forth at will. Which I would highly recommend for a frame like the Canfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.I.T.nj
    I have a custom frame with 16.5 CS and a sagged HA at 69.5 (100mm) and 68.5 (120mm)
    The bike never feels sluggish in either position but it certainly climbs a bit better at 100mm. However I am sure that with some small cockpit adjustments I could get climbing just as good at 120mm. BTW, that is w/ a TALAS fork so I can switch back and forth at will. Which I would highly recommend for a frame like the Canfield.
    Good info., thanks. I saw the build thread on your bike, and it's sweet. With similar HA to the canefield, your advice on the Talas will be considered. By the way, what's the bb height on your new bike?

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    The one thing that I'd like to know with slack angled 29er like this is are they on the slow side of handling or do the short stays balance it out? With many of the production 29ers out there it seems that 71 to 72 degrees heat tube angle seems to be the norm

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    Quote Originally Posted by djembe975
    The one thing that I'd like to know with slack angled 29er like this is are they on the slow side of handling or do the short stays balance it out? With many of the production 29ers out there it seems that 71 to 72 degrees heat tube angle seems to be the norm
    probably a similar difference in handling between slack 26" am hardtails and 26" xc hardtails that often have steeper angles too

    no offense, but many people tend to think of 29ers more as a category of bikes than as a wheel size that can be applied to different categories of bikes. Short stays can make a bike feel more "lively", "playful" or "nimble" and you will be able to turn the bike a bit easier with your body, but the steering alone will still be slower and will force you to use your body more to be maneuverable

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Very interesting bike for sure and as Enel said, the geo chart really does give you everything and see what your particular size frame will actually look like, HOWEVER, too bad they have a web designer who doesn't seem to think that anyone uses over a 1024 resolution for their monitors I can hardly read the type on my 17" wide screen @ 1650 x 1050 and it's a jpeg, so you can't even scale it up using the font scaling feature in most browsers these days.
    Sweet. Coolest most exciting bike to be posted in a long time and you rag on the web developer and how it is posted on them internets! Almost feels like DC got into some Jamaican ganga and hijacked your account....... wanna borrow my bifocals? hehehe

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    Hopefully we'll get a ride report from a credible source like twentynineinches.com soon as I'd love to see how it performs
    Yep, hucking that long travel All Mountain bike across the huge drops and gnarly rock strewn descents of the Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska lands with the 5000 vertical foot 15 mile descents after climbing to the sky all morning..... oh, wait. Uh......
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Yep, hucking that long travel All Mountain bike across the huge drops and gnarly rock strewn descents of the Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska lands with the 5000 vertical foot 15 mile descents after climbing to the sky all morning..... oh, wait. Uh......
    You know that there are contributors to TNI from other locales, right? Just checking.
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    Yelli Screamy by Canfield?

    The head-tube length on the XL is about an inch too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <-meathucker->
    I'm sure as long as there is a free bike involved we will get a glowing review from twentynineinches.com
    Guitar Ted is probably too nice to respond, but I am not. That is a direct attack on the character of the writer/testers at that site, including myself. Not cool, especially since the review commentaries do not bear this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    You know that there are contributors to TNI from other locales, right? Just checking.
    Yes, and I forgot the smilie (fixt, uh... ). Not every bike you test is prefect for your test conditions, given your ability to travel the globe with your $$$ million dollar test budget was what I was trying to say. Even though the Canfield Bros might be a little biased , but I feel they are better qualified to test this one; I doubt mikesee or buddies will fly this to its limits, let alone the 29".com crew. Just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus
    Yes, and I forgot the smilie (fixt, uh... ). Not every bike you test is prefect for your test conditions, given your ability to travel the globe with your $$$ million dollar test budget was what I was trying to say. Even though the Canfield Bros might be a little biased , but I feel they are better qualified to test this one; I doubt mikesee or buddies will fly this to its limits, let alone the 29".com crew. Just sayin'...
    No worries, Tim. I told GT all about you

    And I agree...I am certainly not the perfect test rider for this type of bike, seeing as how you and I like the same type of rides/bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtroy
    Guitar Ted is probably too nice to respond, but I am not. That is a direct attack on the character of the writer/testers at that site, including myself. Not cool, especially since the review commentaries do not bear this out.

    You are way off here and your character is showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    probably a similar difference in handling between slack 26" am hardtails and 26" xc hardtails that often have steeper angles too

    no offense, but many people tend to think of 29ers more as a category of bikes than as a wheel size that can be applied to different categories of bikes. Short stays can make a bike feel more "lively", "playful" or "nimble" and you will be able to turn the bike a bit easier with your body, but the steering alone will still be slower and will force you to use your body more to be maneuverable
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaredbadams
    The head-tube length on the XL is about an inch too short.
    I've got the same issue with the seat tube I wouldn't be able to run an adjustable seatpost on this. I prefer some of the features of this over the Paradox (Tapered, direct mount) but the geometry isn't going to work for me.

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    Geometry pictures for the smaller sizes say ISCG mounts (03?) but the larger ones don't. It is not in the photos either.

    What is correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin
    Good info., thanks. I saw the build thread on your bike, and it's sweet. With similar HA to the canefield, your advice on the Talas will be considered. By the way, what's the bb height on your new bike?
    12.25 at 100mm. I find it to be perfect so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    +1

    Spot on

    +2 This geo really responds best to a more "DH" style of riding. Full commitment, lots of body english, toss it in and ride the rear wheel out......When you treat it like that it simply rips the way now long stayed steep angled frame can. All depends on how active you like to be on the bike. My .02c

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    This is very relevant to my interests. (lets see some pics of a complete bike)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    +1

    Spot on
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    Does anyone have an idea on rear tire capacity? It looks like the Rockshox seatpost will be long enough for me. So, it's back in the running for finding a home beneath my Christmas tree if I can fit good sized rubber in it.

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    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!? Don't know if Canfield Brothers deliberately intended to copy it or anything but I still think Steve was first and he deserves some credit

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    No he's not

    Quote Originally Posted by megalow maniac
    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!? Don't know if Canfield Brothers deliberately intended to copy it or anything but I still think Steve was first and he deserves some credit

    The PhatSchtickel!!!!
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    Maybe the first you are aware of though.

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    Nobody has a pic of one built up, proto or otherwise?

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    There's a few more detail pics at:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/9338821...7624667083519/

    But no built up

    The German site has a pic of the frame in silver:



    http://www.canfieldbrothers.de/site_de.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by megalow maniac
    ...is it just me or does the design of the ultra short chainstays bear a striking resemblance with the BY:STICKEL custom frames?!?

    Good point.....looks like a nice frame to reintroduce me back into the HT scene without spending alot of coin ! TIG.
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    personnally 'm more interested in seeing the gold and silver options than a built up...

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    Thanks for the links looks good in silver as well...

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    69* on a 29er = cheating in the tech. I know, my BS RAM devours rock gardens like they're not there, and with a shorter stem, those short stays should mean pulling ledgey ups are e-z and climbs are balanced... also that 69* HTA will make the downs delicious as well.

    Well done canfields!

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