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    WTB Laser TCS Trail 29er Rims

    Anyone try out WTB's new Laser TCS 29er rims yet?

    http://www.wtb.com/products/wheels/r...sertcstrail29/

    Weight at 470g seems on par with a Stans Arch - but it's actually a bit wider and actually has eyelets, which I'm assuming means you could use higher spoke tension with these.

    I wonder if they hold tubeless tires as well as the Stans rims?

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    Haven't tried them but I believe the TCS is WTB'S version of the UST. I still like Stan's tubeless design better.

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    WTB's tubless version is licensed from Stan's not Mavic

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    Thanks. I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay View Post
    Anyone try out WTB's new Laser TCS 29er rims yet?
    http://www.wtb.com/products/wheels/r...sertcstrail29/
    Weight at 470g seems on par with a Stans Arch - but it's actually a bit wider and actually has eyelets, which I'm assuming means you could use higher spoke tension with these.
    I wonder if they hold tubeless tires as well as the Stans rims?
    Arch rims actual weight = 480g to 500g/rim on average

    WTB TCS actual weight = 515g/rim on average. They've all been really close so far.

    TCS = 21mm inside width. Arch and 355 = 18.8mm, Crest = 21mm, Flow = 22mm.

    The WTB's take tension pretty well. No one knows how well they'll do long-term, as they've only been out for ~a month.

    Pretty much identical tubeless setup to Stans with the tape and valve. Simple and predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay View Post
    Anyone try out WTB's new Laser TCS 29er rims yet?

    http://www.wtb.com/products/wheels/r...sertcstrail29/

    Weight at 470g seems on par with a Stans Arch - but it's actually a bit wider and actually has eyelets, which I'm assuming means you could use higher spoke tension with these.

    I wonder if they hold tubeless tires as well as the Stans rims?
    that is a good thing. the old laserdisc trails were almost the anti stans in their design and its ease of converting to tubeless.
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    I thought WTB went with a UST bead, unlike Stan's who uses BST. They both use tape and a valve, but I think the WTBs have more in common with the Bontrager TLR line. This was the big appeal of these rims for me, with eyelets being a nicety.
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    Are these rims designed for a UST style bead - i.e. Ideal for the current crop of tubeless ready tires from Specy, Geax, Bontrager, etc?
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    I had absolutely no problems or difficulty converting a set of WTB Laserdisc Trails with WTB tires to tubeless. Not sure what would make them "anti-Stans".
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    I am looking at these to augment my mikesee built Gordo (tubes) wheel set with a tubeless system before I move back to Colorado (and thorns/goat heads) next summer. Any mid-term feedback? Well familiar with Flows, had 2 sets in the past, but like these as well, not intending to use non-TLR beads on this set.
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    Here's some feedback in this thread for the XC rims: The WTB Laser TCS Rim: Anyone laced it yet?
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    The TCS rims are made to a UST bead profile, not the Stans BST.

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    I'll be listing a WTB TCS XC Stryker wheelset on here soon.
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    Why? ^^^

    How much do the TCS cost new?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subspd View Post
    Why? ^^^

    How much do the TCS cost new?
    Really cool wheel set, but I had a nasty crash and totaled out the front wheel. So while I wait for WTB to send me a new one I bought a new wheel set (I'm very impatient). As soon as I get the new one in I was going to list them on here. The rear wheel has about 20 miles on it and the front will be either new rim and spokes or totally new and I think they list for about $900-$1000. But like I said I got a new wheel set so I will list these very reasonable when it comes in.
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    whatever happened to these?

    the laser tcs 29er wheelset keeps popping up on chainlove for $209 for the set and it is damned tempting, but there doesn't seem to be any info available about these and wtb has stopped making them.

    what gives? seems like a very capable wheelset. not the lightest but light enough and just fine. and relatively durable. am i missing something?

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otisinLA View Post
    the laser tcs 29er wheelset keeps popping up on chainlove for $209 for the set and it is damned tempting, but there doesn't seem to be any info available about these and wtb has stopped making them.

    what gives? seems like a very capable wheelset. not the lightest but light enough and just fine. and relatively durable. am i missing something?

    thanks.
    Hubs are American Classic clones, pretty good. Rims are basically the current Frequency i23 TCS rims. $209 is quite a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otisinLA View Post
    the laser tcs 29er wheelset keeps popping up on chainlove for $209 for the set and it is damned tempting, but there doesn't seem to be any info available about these and wtb has stopped making them.

    what gives? seems like a very capable wheelset. not the lightest but light enough and just fine. and relatively durable. am i missing something?

    thanks.
    I picked up a set from chainlove for a bit more (+40) and been riding them for a month. I set them up with TCS versions of the Bronson/Wolverine tires. Tubeless setup was hella easy - the easiest I've ever done, inflated with a floor pump. Yeah, they're not light but for a general purpose wheelset they do well.

    Looks like chainlove is blowing them out for cheap since they're no longer produced, but WTB still has a Speed TCS wheelset available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by otisinLA View Post
    the laser tcs 29er wheelset keeps popping up on chainlove for $209 for the set and it is damned tempting, but there doesn't seem to be any info available about these and wtb has stopped making them.

    what gives? seems like a very capable wheelset. not the lightest but light enough and just fine. and relatively durable. am i missing something?

    thanks.
    When the TCS where first out they first appeared only as wheelsets, and little info was available, so I called WTB for the 411. Hubs are the weakest link, and the rear only has low POE - like 15.
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