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Old 01-06-2012   #1
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West Coast AM Hardtail

Ok, so my title idea came from MDEnvEngr's recent thread about his New England Woods Bike, an awesome bike built for riding in his neck of the woods. This bike was built for my style of riding in my area in So Cal or around AZ and UT.

Prior to my wife and I having our twins last September, I went into a sell-off. I sold my DH bike, my AM bike, and even my XC bike. For mountain bikes, this left me with only a singlespeed (still have BMX bikes, road bike, 4X bike, and tandem mtbs). Around the time our twins were born, she already wanted to go to Sedona over the holidays, and she suggested that bring my bike. We'd been there many times already so I knew what to look forward to. Her sister went along with us, which would give us some time to go for a couple rides. I have the greatest wife.

But although Sedona is singlespeed friendly, I really wanted a geared bike. So I immediately got started building a frame. Initially I wanted the geometry to be very similar to my singlespeed. I was wrong...29ers can be fun...
However, during the building phase, I started changing plans: I wanted to use the new Fox 34. I was able to make some revisions mid build to get me about where I wanted. While the head angle may seem very slack, the actual trail figure with the 51 mm rake fork is almost identical to my SS with 44 mm rake fork.

All dimensions are with the fork set at 110 mm.
HA: 67.3 degrees - that is not a typo!
BB: 12-1/4"
CS: 16-5/8" - yes, even with a front derailleur (clocked the mount a couple degrees)
WB: 42"
TT or SA: I don't remember actual or effective at the moment


Total weight as shown is under 28 pounds. I went after strength and durability more than light weight...even though I did use Sapim CX-RAY spokes (36R/32F), and all the silver or gold titanium bolts I could use.

The bike is meant to be ridden with the fork at 110. I generally don't like long-travel hardtails because of the amount of bike rotation upon fork compression. Or at least I think that's why. The front end also gets a little tall with the fork at 140 mm. Sure, I could use lower bars, but then they may be too low with the fork at 110. Ce la vie.

The powdercoat is a translucent blue over a silver base. I seem to have difficulties actually capturing the color in pictures since it seems to wash out with light.

End result, this bike has been extremely fun. It worked perfectly in Sedona - even allowing sufficient mud clearance for the back 2.25 tire. At Sedona and other rides since, I've hit lots of rock gardens, jumps, and drops, along with popping up over ledges and various obstacles, and I'm very pleased with the results. The steering is right where I want it. And the bike climbs like a scalded monkey.
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Wow, what's the wait time on a frame ??? That's one gorgeous ride. Congratulations.
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Damn Dude that's hot That's all I got to say
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Super clean, I love the blue. Hopefully my Yelli Scream comes out as nice. Enjoy it
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Woah Momma that's Sweet!!
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Wow, what's the wait time on a frame ??? That's one gorgeous ride. Congratulations.
Thank you!

I should have said that I'm not in the frame building business - it's just a hobby. This is frame #6. Having newborn twins around the house makes my time very limited, but I will say building frames can be quite a good way for me to relax after the babies go to sleep.
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That, is one hell of a nice looking bike. 10/10. Great geo too.
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Awesome build!!!!
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Damn. That is some serious RYO...
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Lee,

Let us know how that works out with chain suck on a slightly muddy day down in the OC, CA.
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Beautiful Bike!

I have 3.5 year old twins, so I know what you mean.
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How much do you want for it? I have first dibs.
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Whoa. I'm with this guy!

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Wow! Incredible work. Fantastic!
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beautiful frame...

very clean work !. Whats it made of?.
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That looks incredible. I would certainty buy a frame. From the geo, the build, and craftsmanship, it looks AM perfect!
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Lee,

Let us know how that works out with chain suck on a slightly muddy day down in the OC, CA.
If you know OC, then you know that it's quite frowned upon to ride the clay-like trails shortly after rain, and many of the trails are close. In some places, the clay can stick so badly, you can add 10 pounds to each tire to the point where it won't even pass with an inch of clearance. Basically, we don't ride in a lot of mud.

My target was about nearly 1/4" of clearance all around the rear tire. It's about that, with the exception of the front derailleur when it's in the smallest chainring. It's tight.

While in Sedona, we did encounter mud, since it rained a couple days leading up to our arrival. To my surprise, mud didn't seem to stick to the Nobby Nic tires nearly as badly as it did to the Maxxis tires on my wife's bike. Still, the area around chainstays and front derailleur was full of mud and muck, but I never had a problem with it.

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very clean work !. Whats it made of?.
Fillet-brazed steel! And a lot of sweat and probably a little blood. Damn...I ran out of pixie dust.

True Temper 44 mm ID head tube, 44.5 mm down tube, 34.9 mm top tube and seat tube
Dedacciai seat stays and chain stays
Basic square 4130 Chromo for the front chainstay pieces
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Fillet-brazed awesomeness! You have an eye for creating very clean lines, even with the segmented parts of the frame. That really is a perfect West Coast machine.
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I think it sucks that some of the coolest bikes on this forum are one-off-customs from 2 guys that only do it as a "hobby". I hate you guys.
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SICK bike!
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If you know OC, then you know that it's quite frowned upon to ride the clay-like trails shortly after rain, and many of the trails are close. In some places, the clay can stick so badly, you can add 10 pounds to each tire to the point where it won't even pass with an inch of clearance. Basically, we don't ride in a lot of mud.

My target was about nearly 1/4" of clearance all around the rear tire. It's about that, with the exception of the front derailleur when it's in the smallest chainring. It's tight.

While in Sedona, we did encounter mud, since it rained a couple days leading up to our arrival. To my surprise, mud didn't seem to stick to the Nobby Nic tires nearly as badly as it did to the Maxxis tires on my wife's bike. Still, the area around chainstays and front derailleur was full of mud and muck, but I never had a problem with it.



Fillet-brazed steel! And a lot of sweat and probably a little blood. Damn...I ran out of pixie dust.

True Temper 44 mm ID head tube, 44.5 mm down tube, 34.9 mm top tube and seat tube
Dedacciai seat stays and chain stays
Basic square 4130 Chromo for the front chainstay pieces
Paragon dropouts and braze-ons.
As you know, we don't have those restrictions in Los Angeles or Ventura Counties... jeffj or mtroy can tell you all about rides around Castaic on fire roads with death mud that sneaks up on you and gets you good. It really needs a Rohloff or a Nexus IGH.
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Damn, you nailed that!
Super nice brazing... this shot is ridiculous. Nicely done!

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Well done sir.

Both your recent builds are ridiculous in the beauty department, and when I think you did it in the garage with your own two hands, I can only think you deserve the title: Frame Jedi.
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awesome bike! love the color scheme and geo! i have been wanting to build my own frame for years once i get my shop back up and running. excellent work!
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