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    Vassago Bandersnatch Builds

    Hey guys, show off your Banders with pride!
    My new 1x10 build

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky909
    Hey guys, show off your Banders with pride!
    My new 1x10 build

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    Very nice. Please describe your drivetrain. It is hard to see in the pictures.

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    Drivetrain details please and a ride report. I am building up a Bander too, same color as yours. Love the Copper, or Orange as my kids call it. It will be another month or so before I finish mine. Looking forward to getting out to ride it.
    I ride at ludicrous speed

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    Sure!
    I am running a Blackspire all mountain crankset with a 32t chainring sandwiched between two bashguards all by blackspire.
    RD is SRAM XO 10 speed med cage for better tension...I wish they made 10spd grip shifters...
    OK - here is the full build - thanks to George at Bike29.com and Jason at Cyclery USA
    Vassago Bandernatch 29er Frame
    Thompson Elite Seatpost 27.2/410mm
    Thompson X4 Stem 10deg 90mm
    Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals
    Hope Skewers
    RockShox Reba RLT Ti
    Wheelset Hope/Stans Arch
    WTB Wolverine Tires
    Cane Creek 110 Headset
    Avid Elixir Disc Brakes
    Niner Carbon Handlebars
    Salsa Seatpost Clamp
    Lizard Skins Grips
    Derailleur Hanger #67
    Bottle Cage/bottle
    Selle Italia Max Flite Gel Flow
    Blackspire Mono Veloce Chainring
    Sette Chainring Bolt set
    Blackspire Litegod Bashring
    Blackspire All Mountain Crankset
    Blackspire Blackguard
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    SRAM XO 10spd Shifter
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    Ride report to follow....

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    Just finished yesterday, got two rides in on it today. Except for swapping out the seat I am stoked. I cleaned sections I never have before, WOOT!


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    Nice build! is that a 1x9? If so could you give details??

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    Si es a 1x9. Whadda ya want to know? 34t chainring, cheapo but decent shimano cranks. sram 990 cassette 11-32t and x9 derailleur and shifter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky909
    Hey guys, show off your Banders with pride!
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    I love that bike.Nice build.

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    SS Bander

    ...as seen in my other thread...



    2007 model, in about it's 4 billionth iteration...
    Ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSingleGuy
    ...as seen in my other thread...



    2007 model, in about it's 4 billionth iteration...
    That's the beauty of this frame....I need to get stronger before I try SS! Where is your other thread?

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    Thank you man of Sparta....now I have to get it dirty....

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    Sparky, that's a nice solid build. Do let us know how you like the ride. I have my frame, fork and drivetrain. I have the parts for the wheelset (spokes, hubs, rims) on order, which should all be here by the weekend. The weather report is calling for lots of rain so I think I know what I am doing for part of the weekend.
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    Threads like this are killing me...I have my Black Bsnatch frame, wheels and a few other misc parts, but don't have enough money for a fork and some drive train parts. It's still going to be a good couple of months. I'm jones'n bad to build. Somebody send me some patience.

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    Oh no Stumpy....I need that patience too. Maybe we can take turns with it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky909
    That's the beauty of this frame....I need to get stronger before I try SS! Where is your other thread?
    Thanks. It may have slipped off the bottom of the page already - oops, I see you found it.

    Cheers,

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    p.s. SS is less hard than you think. Maybe.
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    Sorry Stumpy and H2O!! It took me quite a while - half of the stuff on mine is used on ebay so I know about patience...

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    Thanks Chris....I 'm still learning my way around this forum....as far as SS......I need legs first....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky909
    Sorry Stumpy and H2O!! It took me quite a while - half of the stuff on mine is used on ebay so I know about patience...
    I'm doing the same thing, ebay and finding the best deals possible.

    Anyone have leads on a decent inexpensive 80mm front fork?

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    I bought a new Manitou Minute with Absolute + damper on ebay for $320. Very nice fork. Used Rebas seem to be going for about $300 on ebay too. The slightly heavier Recon is going for slightly less.
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    My 2010 Bander back in Dec with a new XO 2x10.

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    Nice rig! I was going to run the same drivetrain but decided on the 1x10 at the last minute....I need to get my fitness up fast...

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    fork

    Hey Sparky did you ride that thing yet? Im loving mine.

    What mm travel is that shock looks like 100?

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    My new Bander

    Can't ride this bike enough....
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    Boogie - sadly just to work and back the last couple of days trying to get the fit adjusted....the days are still to short to go before/after work so the weekend it is....Yes its a 100mm Reba. I have read mixed reviews but I figured if I didn't know the difference.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky909
    Thanks Chris....I 'm still learning my way around this forum....as far as SS......I need legs first....
    Nah, SS is how you get your legs...

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    don't look too close... its a 2x9 Jabber.... but there's a SS Bander on here to balance it out.

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    80 or 100

    Have any of you guys ridden a Bander with an 80 and 100mm shock? Currently have an 80 and wanna get a 100mm but I am a little hesitant about changing the geometry at all. It climbs so good right now and Im scared that I might mess it up. Any recommendations?

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    Keep it at 80.

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    had to do it.
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    Finished my Bandersnatch this week.
    Too bad the trails out here are a sheet of ice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.R.A.V.I.S
    had to do it.

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    mmmmmmm... Sexy sexy builds. I am still sort of on the fence about a 29er. Just sold my reign x2 FS and looking to get a "simpler" if you will bike. Something about vassago just calls to me. All the hoopla going around the airwaves about their company revamp don't bother me that much either oddly enough. Esach your build gets me stoked to build up one for myself. Anyone care to share their thoughts on fork travel? Rigid vs 80mm vs100mm? I am leaning toward a 100mm fox because I don't know how well I will adapt to short travel hardtail from my squishy all mountain rig . KEEP THE PICS COMING!!!

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    heres mine. Custom wheels, Sram XX groupo, Hope Brakes and hubs, along with a Ritchey WCS cockpit.

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    Hey Stig,
    What stem is that? I'm a sucker for blue-blingy stuff.

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    looks like a hope stem

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    What's the average price tag on an XT level build on one of these frames?
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    Here's my new build. Bought the frame and some parts used and had some lying around the garage. Medium frame, Reba race 80mm fork, King hubs/Arch rims. Running 1X9 X0 Shifter rear derailleur with Paul chain keeper and 990 Cassette.


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    can't wait to ride my bander...build should be complete tomorrow and maiden voyage on saturday

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    Clamp Size

    What size post clamp is correct? Website says 30mm.....but also says 28.6mm for front derailleur clamp size. I measured but am ordering online and don't want to have to return. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpypete
    Hey Stig,
    What stem is that? I'm a sucker for blue-blingy stuff.
    Hope XC Stem. 100% bling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalFliP
    What size post clamp is correct? Website says 30mm.....but also says 28.6mm for front derailleur clamp size. I measured but am ordering online and don't want to have to return. Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Seat post clamp is 30.0mm.

    Front derailleur clamp is 28.6mm
    Enjoy the ride!

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    Thanks for the verification.

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    I ride the Snatch often!
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    A rare siting in the Pacific Northwest - Bandersnatch

    Finally got the new Bandersnatch completed and on the trail for the first ride.



    First impressions as compared to my old 26" FS 4x4:

    1. The Bander climbs way better
    2. The Bander descends the through the rough stuff without loosing momentum unlike the 26" wheels
    3. I can transition to standing climbing easy and not have to worry about flipping the Propedal on
    4. The Bander seems to handle the tight twisty stuff just fine
    5. The FS is a little easier on the rear end....my rear end
    6. The rear tire bounces a little more in the rough stuff on the Bander, what you would expect on a hardtail
    7. Absolutely love the tires running tubeless

    Build:

    Tires: Mountain King 2.4 front and Race King 2.2 rear tubeless
    Wheels: Stan's Crest with DT Swiss Super Comp spokes and SRAM X.9 hubs
    Drivetrain: All SRAM X.9 except crankset (XT)
    Crank Brothers seatpost, stem, carbon bars, and foam grips
    Fork: Manitou Minute with Absolute + damper
    Brakes: LX calipers and levers, Ashima rotors (180 front, 160 rear)

    Overall: very happy with the new rig after the first ride

    I may have to save my money to build a Jabber next to replace my 26" wheeled SS
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    My Wife's 1x9 Bander......
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrogeek
    Finally got the new Bandersnatch completed and on the trail for the first ride.



    First impressions as compared to my old 26" FS 4x4:

    2. The Bander descends the through the rough stuff without loosing momentum unlike the 26" wheels
    I have had my Snatch for almost a year and I am still amazed at defending. It is not just the bigger wheels rolling over the rocks n roots though. I feel like I can pick out lines easier than my gf 26 hd. It has to be the Wet Cat. Today I decended a pretty narly technical trail. On my old 26 I would have been OTB so many times.
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    The longer wheelbase and the 71 degree headtube angle, combined with the slightly lower BB I think is what helps with the descending on the Bander. I never felt like I was going to go over the bars today, even on the nastiest down with rocks and roots. I also could manual the bike at speed which felt good. I was worried about not being able to do that. I even did a small 2 foot drop to gage how it would feel....all good.

    I demoed a GF Rumblefish last summer and it had a similar feel on the downhill. The wheelbase for the RF is even longer than the Bander.
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    Can't wait to get on my build. All the parts should be coming in over the next few days. FedEx dropped off my brand new '11 Tower Pro fork and XFirm spring today....Haven Bars, stem and post shipped today.....drivetrain (1x10) and brakes should be here Wednesday or Thursday. Flows have been in the garage since Oct. Almost there.

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    Well I finished my build and I love it!!! However I don't have enough posts yet to be able to post pics so.... stay tuned I guess?

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    I'm digging all of the 1x... builds! Nice work folks!

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    Came and went

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    Have been on this for just over a year. Painted it myself. Up for sale! 18".
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    nice paint job!

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    Forgot to post up a picture of my final build.. not sure how much longer I'll have the frame built up but it sure is fun


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    My trusty blood red 1x9 Bander. Hardtail set-up w/80mm Manitou Minute


    Rigid w/Odis fork



    Rigid w/drop bars


    This was a great bike and for me handled the best through the tight single track with the 80mm manitou which seem counterintuitive as rigid forks designed for the bike would typically make it handle quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkblazer View Post
    Forgot to post up a picture of my final build.. not sure how much longer I'll have the frame built up but it sure is fun

    details my friend!

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    OOOps, forgot to post a pic.

    18" Bander
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    SLX Crank, X9 10Sp RD and shifters
    E*13 Guide with Renthal 32 tooth
    Easton Haven Bar, Stem, and Post
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    BB7's (for now...I am partial to the feel of Hydros)

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    My black 'snatch...
    Manitou Minute 29er
    Titec H bars
    X7 shifter/RD
    Paul Chainkeeper
    Stylo crankset from my dead SS
    Salsa Semi's on XT hubs, Rampage up front with a Saguaro on the back
    BB7s all around

    I'll have to get a better picture some time.

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    My new BANDER is snatch-tastic!

    I am loving my new bander, this was my first bike build and couldn't be happy with the way it turned out. You be the judge.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by emoore001 View Post
    I am loving my new bander, this was my first bike build and couldn't be happy with the way it turned out. You be the judge.....
    I really like the way this Bander build turned out.

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    My frame is suppose to show up next week, I can't wait to get it built up.
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    bandersnatch vs inbred ride?

    Can anyone compare the bandersnatch ride quality to the on-one inbred? i have a inbred, i think its kinda harsh. My two pick are the bandersnatch or a mcr9. discuss.

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    You can bet your bum with my bad spine that if I'm riding it,the ride's pretty smooth,LOL! I liked the Redline d440 that preceded it (especially after adding that RS Recon Silver-it replaced an ODIS fork,but rigid's just too harsh on me as I get older\injuries disintigrate with time),but the Bander (and the Jabber) are heads and shoulders better. I'm running a Manitou Drake 80mm air fork on it,so if the front end is harsh,I just adjust and go,but the frames themselves just feel...right. I HIGHLY recommend it. I've ridden more expensive frames over the years,but never one I felt more in sinc with.

    Mine,built up back in the Spring (complete with handbuilt-by-Buzz29-from-here-wheels),not a couple weeks after riding the just-had-built up Jabber (yeah,I'm convinced ),setup as a 2x9 X9\SLX (front: Yes,that big ring is still on there,it makes an excellent bashgaurd )...



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    2x9 Jabber (basically a Bander...) and I had a bit of fun this summer:




    45.6 mph on dirt with overnight gear



    Not a bad little ride, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by purplecu22 View Post
    Can anyone compare the bandersnatch ride quality to the on-one inbred? i have a inbred, i think its kinda harsh. My two pick are the bandersnatch or a mcr9. discuss.
    You want either a soft tail or FS if you want something more plush. Don't let steel HT homers tell you riding a HT is anything like a FS. No matter what magical material the frame is made of.

    I had a Vassago (Jabber). And no, it wasn't any more plush than the many other HT's I had. The closest FS-like hardtail is a fat bike (Pugsley, Moonlander, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by p nut View Post
    You want either a soft tail or FS if you want something more plush. Don't let steel HT homers tell you riding a HT is anything like a FS. No matter what magical material the frame is made of.

    I had a Vassago (Jabber). And no, it wasn't any more plush than the many other HT's I had. The closest FS-like hardtail is a fat bike (Pugsley, Moonlander, etc).
    I don't remember anyone saying that their HT was "more plush" than anyone's full squish
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    Quote Originally Posted by longhaultrucker View Post
    I don't remember anyone saying that their HT was "more plush" than anyone's full squish
    I guess I didn't see where he referenced a Redline, either.

    Bottom line: he's not going to feel much difference (if any) in compliance going from an Inbred to a Vassago. I didn't feel hardly any difference between my Vassago, Salsa, Redline, On One, Surly, etc. I can pretty much guarantee the "head and shoulders better" compliance you feel between your old HT and Vassago is either due to the change in equipment (wheels, tires) or it's just in your head.

    If you want plushier HT, run some fat tires at low psi.

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    Thanks for all the input

    Thank you for all your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p nut View Post
    I guess I didn't see where he referenced a Redline, either.

    Bottom line: he's not going to feel much difference (if any) in compliance going from an Inbred to a Vassago. I didn't feel hardly any difference between my Vassago, Salsa, Redline, On One, Surly, etc. I can pretty much guarantee the "head and shoulders better" compliance you feel between your old HT and Vassago is either due to the change in equipment (wheels, tires) or it's just in your head.

    If you want plushier HT, run some fat tires at low psi.
    By lumping them all in together like you say though,it disregards things like geometry and tubing choice,which DOES affect how smooth or harsh a HT rides,it isn't all forks and tires (though obviously they do make a difference). Besides,"head and shoulders better" would be a RELATIVE term,since we were talking apples to apples in the first place (HT's vs HT's),where-as it would mean something completely different if we'd been comparing apples to oranges which you seem to be (HT's vs FS). If you couldn't tell "hardly any difference" between a Redline and a Salsa\Vassago,then dude,you may have medical issues with your hind-end,go get checked

    Being someone with spinal injuries who is blessed (or lucky,depending on one's beliefs) to still be (alive and) able to ride,I can tell a difference in the frames,BEFORE any components were changed\upgraded between the Redline d440 I had,and the Vassago (s) I now ride (as parts were originally just transfered over from the Redline-including forks and tires,BTW-,it's a direct comparison of red apples to red apples). I know not whether it's their tube-choice,geo or whatnot,but there IS a difference,and it IS noticable,at least to me (and,oh...thousands of others)...if there weren't,we'd all be riding $50 Walgoose frames to save the $ over what we pay for better riding frames
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    I'm running a Salsa fork on my Bander at the moment.It feels a bit twitchy.I like the bike so far,I just need to get the front end dialed in.Has anyone ran the Salsa and Reba at 80mm? Opinions? Differences?

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    120mm travel fork on Bander

    Just curious if anyone ever tried running that much travel, if so how did it work out

    Thanks

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    20" bandersnatch build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryK View Post
    Just curious if anyone ever tried running that much travel, if so how did it work out

    Thanks
    A Jabber and a Bander are almost identical (to my eye\butt,someone correct me if wrong) other than the dropouts and such,having 100mm on the Jabber changed the geo enough to the point it ails my old injuries (pain,discomfort and stiffness during and after riding it),and kept me off it most of the year. See this guy's (bjleydic) below,his looks like it's set at 120mm,but maybe 100mm?

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    took the build parts from my 2011 karate monkey...
    LOVING yours,mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by longhaultrucker View Post
    A Jabber and a Bander are almost identical (to my eye\butt,someone correct me if wrong) other than the dropouts and such,having 100mm on the Jabber changed the geo enough to the point it ails my old injuries (pain,discomfort and stiffness during and after riding it),and kept me off it most of the year. See this guy's (bjleydic) below,his looks like it's set at 120mm,but maybe 100mm?



    LOVING yours,mate!
    thanks! and yes- its set up at 120mm.
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    Bikepacking Bander

    Just threw this together and it rides smooth with 25 pounds of gear.
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    Oh that's just friggin GORGEOUS,the beauty of the utility!
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    Fork = Rock Shox Rebal SL 80mm
    Cranks = Middleburn RS8
    Chain Rings = Middleburn Slickshift Hardcoat 40/30/20
    Rear Derailer = Sram X9
    Front Derailer = Sram X7
    Shifters = Sram X9
    Chain = Sram PC-971
    Seat = WTB Pure V Pro w/ Nicro Rails
    Seatpost = Ritchey Carbon Pro
    Grips = ESI Chunky Silicone
    Stem = Titec Pluto Prolite 80mm 6 deg rise 31.8mm
    Handle Bars=Truvativ Team XC Race Flat Bar 31.8mm 5-deg sweep cut down from 580mm
    Headset = Cane Creek S3
    Brakes = Avid Juicy 5's
    Tires = Schwable Racing Ralph 2.1 Evo's (being ran tubeless)
    Rims = Stans ZTR Flow 29r
    Hubs = DMR Revolver 36 Hole
    Spokes = DT Swiss Competition Butted Spokes 2.0-1.8mm
    Nipples = Brass
    Skewers = Salsa
    Bottom Bracket = Shimano UN-72 Square Taper
    Pedals = Crank Brothers Candy SL
    Water Bottle Cage = Velocity

    Wheels were hand built.
    Last Weight = 26.42 lbs
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    updates...

    stans arch/ X9 wheels, echo trials bars & platform pedals, 185mm G2 rotors, maxxis aspen rear tire, 180 mm stylo crankset...
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    Haven't posted on mine for a while,here's some from Monday's ride




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    Nice Banders!

    Very nice builds makes me want to build my own Bander pretty soon!

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    Here's one

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    frame

    Just recieved my new red Bandersnatch 20" frame today. $332 on closeout from Huck n Roll. Can hardly wait to build it up. As a bonus, it comes with a frame prep sheet - head tube faced, check! BB faced and chased, check! disc tabs faced, check! These guys are awesome! I've got some Sram X.7 180mm 9spd cranks on the way, $152 from Modernbike, we'll see how they are.
    The frame feels a bit porky, but then I'm a bit also so no worries. After many FS bikes, I'm glad to get back to the old days. I've always missed my green Diamond Back steel frame, with the roller cam brake under the chainstays. 22" with 69 degree parallel angles. Loved it, it was like a big spring. I had some TA 185mm cranks on it and used to just ride away from my buddies.
    Pics of the new build to follow.

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    I just ordered mine as well!!
    I am looking forward to building it up - going to be 1X9 and then 1X11 when it comes out!

    I am going fat front - parts transfer from the Jabberwocky - and maybe some from the my Heckler.

    My first new bike in almost 10 years!!
    My bike is heavier than yours - it does not have Carbon or Titanium parts - I love it!

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    Anyone know what the magic gears are for a medium Bandersnatch? I' about to pick one up and might try to run it SS for a little while

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    Anyone out there know someone looking to build up a bander? I have a brand new (in the box) medium Red bandersnatch frame that i am looking to either sell or trade for a frame that can accommodate a 120mm fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weinerts View Post
    I just ordered mine as well!!
    I am looking forward to building it up - going to be 1X9 and then 1X11 when it comes out!

    I am going fat front - parts transfer from the Jabberwocky - and maybe some from the my Heckler.

    My first new bike in almost 10 years!!
    I have transfered all the parts to a new necromancer pug (ok new Bottom bracket and rear wheel).

    But I have a 20 in black frame available if anybody is interested...
    I also have an enabler fork that I was going to build up another fat front....
    My bike is heavier than yours - it does not have Carbon or Titanium parts - I love it!

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    The new Bander.

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    OK, built mine up last summer. After delivery it went on super discount so I called up the vendor and they gave me a gift cert for the difference, amazing deal. I can't say enough great things about how it rides. After 15 yrs of FS, it's so nice to get back to a steel hardtail. It's not super light but it rides like it is The wheels are a bit heavy (12 oz of sealant in the rear!) but I notice a lot more flex in 29er wheels, so I think straight gauge spokes are the rule. I'm 6'3" and 200 lbs; weight restrictions apply!
    My avg speed has gone up around 20%...I'm in the big ring a lot more now. Could be because it fits me perfect and is so much fun to ride fast.
    Stable and fast, it rides like a big BMX bike. Handles switchbacks really well. Downhills so well I have to remind myself it's a hardtail; you can just plow it through rough terrain almost like FS. The hard landing after catching air reminds me; no squish!
    I get a few more pedal strikes from the low BB so I'm glad I sold my XTR cranks and got cheap X7 180mm's. Also, on the really steep rough climbs it will lose traction more than FS.
    Steering is a little slow at 100mm; I think I'll switch it to 80mm for quicker handling in techy terrain.
    The Thomson seat post slipped at first; a Salsa clamp, soda can shim, and some climber's chalk took care of that problem. The long 27.2 post gives me lots of rear suspension.
    The new model frame looks even better, but for the deal I got plus the hot red paint I couldn't be happier.
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    I'm liking some of the builds here but does anyone know why the frame's been changed around? Here's a crop taken from the Vassago site to show what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhop View Post
    I'm liking some of the builds here but does anyone know why the frame's been changed around? Here's a crop taken from the Vassago site to show what I mean.

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    The seatstays have been bent for a more comfortable ride. As for the post mount brakes I am not certain if there is any evidence that they are stiffer, stronger or better. There seems to be more metal there and on a steel frame that means heavier than if it were aluminum or carbon. The 44mm head tube is to accommodate tapered steerer forks as well as straight ones. That is all they changed. Same killer geometry and rides like a dream.

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    Any how do you like the redesigned frame? I have one in a box and am slowly accumulating components for the upcoming season. Does the 44mm HT with a tapered fork add any stiffness that you can feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulsepro View Post
    Any how do you like the redesigned frame? I have one in a box and am slowly accumulating components for the upcoming season. Does the 44mm HT with a tapered fork add any stiffness that you can feel?
    The frame rides great. I had a Jabber a couple years ago and it was full rigid. It has been too long to compare stiffness. The new Bander has a small gusset on the down tube where it meets the head tube but it isn't like other frames I have seen where they create a box like gusset. After all it is a more xc oriented frame so the ride will be nicer than a burly am frame. I'm in the middle of packing and moving so I haven't been riding much the last two weeks. When u get yours built be sure to give your ride impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzo75 View Post
    The frame rides great. I had a Jabber a couple years ago and it was full rigid. It has been too long to compare stiffness. The new Bander has a small gusset on the down tube where it meets the head tube but it isn't like other frames I have seen where they create a box like gusset. After all it is a more xc oriented frame so the ride will be nicer than a burly am frame. I'm in the middle of packing and moving so I haven't been riding much the last two weeks. When u get yours built be sure to give your ride impressions.
    Thanks for the response! I'll be sure to post-up after I get mine built. The plan is to build it for long rides/100 mile events.

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    I picked up a NOS Bandersnatch and I'm about 3/4 done with the build. All that I lack is a crank set. It's the part that ties everything together so I'm trying to be selective but Vassago really threw a monkey wrench in this thing when they spec'd it with an 83mm BB shell.

    I really despise all the DH-specific cranks as I just don't need that much bulk. Tried to make an e*13 XCX crank fit with different spacers, but no love...

    The hunt continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcaiii View Post
    I picked up a NOS Bandersnatch and I'm about 3/4 done with the build. All that I lack is a crank set. It's the part that ties everything together so I'm trying to be selective but Vassago really threw a monkey wrench in this thing when they spec'd it with an 83mm BB shell.

    I really despise all the DH-specific cranks as I just don't need that much bulk. Tried to make an e*13 XCX crank fit with different spacers, but no love...

    The hunt continues.
    That's news to me about the 83mm BB. My jabber had a 68mm and my current Bander has 73mm. You might want to shoot Tom a email about the 83mm BB and ask him why that is.

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    Just dropped them a line, thanks for the feedback.

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    I just finished a new build last week. My BB is 73mm. I used XX1 cranks with a Sram bb.
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    I want to see one of the new Hummer Green frames built up. I have been daydreaming about all the cool component color combos that could be done.
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    Looks like Lake Hodges. How do you like the new design?

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