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    Trying to get back in shape

    Stopped riding about 15 years ago, Job, kids and basically life ( lets not forget laziness), got in the way. But so did about 60 lb and 15 years, But its time to live again. I am 260 and 47 years old. Live in NYC, but have access to get to some great trails. My question is looking at the scott 29 comp hard tail and wondering if it would be a good buy for my circumstance. Any reply before noon on saturday may 11th would be great, going to see bike at that time.

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    Depends on what kind of riding you'll be doing, but a hard tail can beat up a 47 year old body! If you're not going to be riding rough stuff, then it will probably be perfect, and the Scott is a great bike. Obviously if you can test ride this one and some others that would be best.

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    Best of luck to you! Riding and watching diet will help with the weight loss....you can always get a HT and then get a FS down the road. I ride with a 63 year old on rough desert terrain that rides Cannondale HT 29er and he does alright. Happy Trails

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    I was in a very similar situation. A year ago, at 47, I decided to drop all the weight I'd gained. I changed my diet and started mountain biking again. I pulled my 2005 Hardtail out of the basement, cleaned it up, and hit the trails. I've lost 73 pounds since February 2012 (I'm only 5' 6" so that's how fat I was!).

    As a reward, I bought myself a new bike to replace the 2005 HT. Let me pass on some advice:

    You are not in your 30s. Get full suspension.

    I rode my HT at 47 for 6 months before buying a FS bike. The difference on my back, shoulders, and arms is amazing. More importantly, I'm fresher after a ride and more apt to ride longer the next day. I work 70+ hours a week and travel almost every week so I usually only have Saturday and Sunday to ride. Riding a few miles further on Sunday because I am not as beat up from Saturday makes the FS worth it for me.

    On top of all that, FS bikes are just freakin' amazing. This is coming from a die-hard HT fan. I have WAY more fun on the new FS bike that I ever imagined on the HT. It makes me want to ride more. It makes me ride sections I'd normal avoid. It makes me look forward to rooty forests and rock gardens instead of thinking "ugh...this is gonna hurt."

    At your height, I'd probably go 650b or 29er (I'm on 26) but go FS.

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    KevinGT

    Thanks for the response, I need to keep hearing stories like yours. Any suggestion on a bike that would be great for me. Thinking FS now (Thanks), used up to $2500.
    Any comments on the Specialized stump jumper FSR comp to start with? Did not love the Scott, and rethinking HT or FSRT.

    thanks
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    I'd love to help with a bike suggestion but I'm no expert. I decided I wanted a Yeti many months ago and never researched other brands.

    I did demo two bikes, a 29er HT (Niner Air 9 RDO) and a 650b FS (Scott Genius). I loved the Niner but didn't like the Scott at all.

    You can't go wrong sticking to a big brand like Specialized, Giant, Cannondale, or Trek. Take a look at the Yeti and Santa Cruz lineups as well. I think you'd love a Yeti SB-95 but those are pricey, even in aluminum.

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    I recently lost 40 lbs (was almost 200, now I'm clocking in around 158-160 depending on what I've eaten). Now, I'm only 23 years old so granted it was probably easier for me than it will be for you but I found the absolute best thing to do was high intensity training like P90X (I prefer P90X to P90X2) to lose the first 25 lbs, and then move to Bikram Yoga to lose the last 10-15 lbs. If you combine mountain biking with this, you'll see some huge benefits.

    Of course you need to watch what you eat also, but I never truly dieted or counted calories.

    Good luck with the weight loss!

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    Loving the suggestions, please keep them coming. trying out a 2012 Stump jumper FSR tomorrow. I little to think of it as a mothers day present to myself,since as a dad i raised my kids by myself.

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    I'm 46 and bought a Scott Aspect 920 hardtail late last year. I decided I needed to do something for cardio fitness as the only thing I have done in the past 6-7 years is play golf and drink beer. I bought a hardtail as I just wanted to do a bit of XC/trail riding and even a bit of road/commuter riding for the fun, fitness and fresh air and it's been great for all of that. I didn't really want to get into any more difficult riding as at my age I don't want to be falling off and injuring myself too often but as you get better you do start to explore and ride the tougher trails. I can now see the potential benefits of a full suspension bike as you do get rattled around on the tougher trails. But for just plain weight loss and cardio fitness on easier trails the hardtail is ideal. But as somebody else mentioned you also need to watch what you eat. I began riding daily around Xmas but didn't lose an ounce of weight because I was stuffing myself with Xmas goodies. After Xmas I cut down my food intake but continued riding and quickly lost about 10-11 lbs.

    The great thing about cycling is you can exercise and have fun doing it unlike some other forms of exercise which are pure drudgery.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi_GR_Biker View Post
    The great thing about cycling is you can exercise and have fun doing it unlike some other forms of exercise which are pure drudgery.

    Good luck!
    AMEN to that, brother! I have a gym membership, but I can't stand going. I force myself to go here and there, but I'd MUCH rather be out riding!

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    Ride, ride, ride.

    Got 27/30 days in April, and 10/11 so far in May.

    Eat right.

    Eat healthy.

    The kind of bike you ride (FS, HT, etc) is up to you. Don't let everyone scare you into thinking that because of your age you NEED full suspension, cause it's just not true.

    I've had lots of bikes, and at 48 years old my hands down favorite is my rigid singlespeed 29er. So much so that my FS 29er is sold...

    and I'm in Westchester so I know the kinds of trails you'll be riding.

    check out the "wheels down" forum on wmba.org for rides posted at our local parks.

    and don't forget our annual Fat Tire Festival coming up on June 9th at Blue Mountain in Peekskill.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokePete View Post
    Ride, ride, ride.

    Got 27/30 days in April, and 10/11 so far in May.

    Eat right.

    Eat healthy.

    The kind of bike you ride (FS, HT, etc) is up to you. Don't let everyone scare you into thinking that because of your age you NEED full suspension, cause it's just not true.

    I've had lots of bikes, and at 48 years old my hands down favorite is my rigid singlespeed 29er. So much so that my FS 29er is sold...

    and I'm in Westchester so I know the kinds of trails you'll be riding.

    check out the "wheels down" forum on wmba.org for rides posted at our local parks.

    and don't forget our annual Fat Tire Festival coming up on June 9th at Blue Mountain in Peekskill.

    Good luck!

    SPP
    +1 on this. I'm 37 riding a hard tail 29er and I've yet to feel beat up after riding. If anything, my legs feel a bit worked but no other problems.

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    Just ride a bike that YOU enjoy riding !!! That will keep you in the sattle. I (46) use a FS but also have a bad back,and am not interested in racing. If yer looking for “a do it all“ bike than I would go HT, fullies are silly on roads and bikepaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    AMEN to that, brother! I have a gym membership, but I can't stand going. I force myself to go here and there, but I'd MUCH rather be out riding!
    LOL after years of fitness industry philanthropy I've finally given up on gyms - permanently. I have some weights setup in the basement if I ever get the urge but I've given up on charitable donations to my local gym. I can save the extra cash for spare parts, upgrades etc instead.

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    Thanks for all the feedback, just got home from riding the Stumpjumper FSR, and it was great. I think it will be a great bike on the trails around here, but not great for a simple ride to my office. I may need to pick up a simple bike for that purpose. So the person wants $1700 for the 2012 bike in near perfect condition, (thoughts?), that should allow me to pick up a tree 4300 or equivalent for daily riding to work. What do people think?

    Thanks again

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    The FSR sounds like a good deal. What components are on it? It probably retailed for $3000 last year assuming it's got the SRAM X7/9 group.

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    The bike has the SRAM x7/9 group and all the other stock components that comes with the bike. I went armed with my list of parts. He paid $2900 last summer for the bike, even showed me receipts. Not a scratch on the bike, got to love those 40 something year olds like myself, we take good care things.

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    Sounds great. And a hardtail for the daily commute sounds like a perfect combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caljah View Post
    The bike has the SRAM x7/9 group and all the other stock components that comes with the bike. I went armed with my list of parts. He paid $2900 last summer for the bike, even showed me receipts. Not a scratch on the bike, got to love those 40 something year olds like myself, we take good care things.
    Buy it. That is a decent deal and quite a nice bike.

    I have also had good results with the P90X and mountain biking combo. It's pretty hard at first if you are an old fat guy but it works.
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    Bought the stumpjumper FSR, rode it for an hour today and its great. Thanks all

    Next question, I live in brooklyn, where do people ride. I can drive anywhere, but the closer the more likely I will ride more often.

    Also any recommendation for a HT i can ride to work daily.

    DJ Giggity, I may even get the P90x, thanks

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    Congratulations on the FSR and welcome to your new addiction. For a commuter if you want to stick with Specialized get a Hardrock HT.

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    Picked up the Stumpjumper FSR comp and its been great As I indicated before, I also want to get an HT, any thoughts on the Raven Focus expert? Someone has one for sale on the site, and they are close to me.

    Parts listed as:

    Bone stock except for tires which have been replaced with Serac XC 2.1's.

    - XT triple crankset, front and rear derailleurs and shifters.
    - Avid Elixir R brakes.
    - Fulcrum Red Metal 5 wheelset with 9mm quick release front and rear (front hub can be converted to a 15mm thru-axel by removing the 9mm adapters.)
    - Rock Shox Reba SL RL 100mm fork with tapered steerer tube and remote lockout. Fork can be converted to 80mm if so desired.


    Thanks for all the feedback.
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    The Raven has a great fork and good XT drive. Price is always important.

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    I hadn't seen that this is a 26. For road and actually trail riding I would look for a 29.
    Bike Blue Book is a source for used bike pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caljah View Post
    Picked up the Stumpjumper FSR comp and its been great As I indicated before, I also want to get an HT, any thoughts on the Raven Focus expert? Someone has one for sale on the site, and they are close to me.

    Parts listed as:

    Bone stock except for tires which have been replaced with Serac XC 2.1's.

    - XT triple crankset, front and rear derailleurs and shifters.
    - Avid Elixir R brakes.
    - Fulcrum Red Metal 5 wheelset with 9mm quick release front and rear (front hub can be converted to a 15mm thru-axel by removing the 9mm adapters.)
    - Rock Shox Reba SL RL 100mm fork with tapered steerer tube and remote lockout. Fork can be converted to 80mm if so desired.


    Thanks for all the feedback.
    Isn't this for commuting? Do you have a secure place indoors to store it? Otherwise I would get something cheap, old and ugly.
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    Its for commuting, I can bring the bike up into my office and I assume most of my ride are are going to be on flat trails, did i say I live in NYC. But what about the bike itself?

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    Bike Blue Booh gives the current value as $1286. 2010 carbon frame has to be looked at with a magnifying glass for cracks and ridden to listen and feel for creeking noises. 26 is not used for commuting but will work. 26 ht bikes are gone from the US market.

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    hit the trails in ringwood, do some core work, cardio, weights on a plan- not all will nilly and yoll be good in 6 months......maybe 9. and eat right. the first 30 lbs will start to flow off in about 30-45 days. its that last 20% thats always the hardest......willpower and stick with it!

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    Congrats on the new bike.

    I'm 59 and overweight, high BP, back surgery in 2000 started me on this path..... I have started riding to lose weight and get in better shape, changing the way I eat and drink. I needed to get active. Ex runner and I've found my new addiction. I'm riding a Specialized Crosstrail its a year old and I have 793 miles on it. I just changed tires due to usage. I'm looking at a holdover 29'er but I'm not sure if I should make the change. Are there any major pluses to make the change? I ride easy trails, roadways, canal paths, electric company easements. I need some feed back on making the change. So what do you bike knowledged recommend?

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    Went out today in the rain and had a great "time" on the Focus. Its not as easy as I remember riding. I was winded after the first 20 mins and my ass was killing me. I am assuming I just have to keep at it and get some good riding shorts.

    Any advise will be appreciated.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by caljah View Post
    Went out today in the rain and had a great "time" on the Focus. Its not as easy as I remember riding. I was winded after the first 20 mins and my ass was killing me. I am assuming I just have to keep at it and get some good riding shorts.

    Any advise will be appreciated.

    Thanks
    More advice from one noob to another. I had a terrible time with my seat to start with. I gave it time to try and 'get used to it' but it never improved and apart from the normal saddle soreness I was getting numbness in the nether regions.

    I got some good advice on this forum and had a fitting at my Specialized shop where they measure your sit bones and give you a range of seats to try that are the right width. They also gave me a 90 day trial period which I didn't need as the first seat I tried was perfect. I now have a 143mm Henge seat that is still pretty hard but it fits me right and I haven't had a problem since. The previous seat was only 130mm wide and was putting all the pressure on the soft tissue around my butt.

    Not saying this is the case with your seat but might be worth considering if things aren't improving after a reasonable break in period.

    As for the fitness. Just keep at it mate. That's what those granny gears are for. Use them to keep riding until you get stronger.

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    You have lots of good advice on bikes so I would stress paying attention to your training regime. I used the Akins book to loose 50 pounds about 12 years ago and rediscovered biking to drop another 15. I really took up serious mountain biking about 4 years ago and the first year went okay but the second was discouraging. I discovered some tips in Mountain Bike Action and a MTB Training book that really turned things around. The big tips, don't think you have to kill yourself everyday, concentrate on going faster, not harder, mix it up so you train different things on each day, and lastly, recover when needed. These days I do a climb day, about an hour max, a workout day, 2.5 hours or so with an average heart rate of 140, and just a ride day, 3 to 4 hours with only short stints of climbs but where I work on technical stuff, and lastly a rest day. If I'm going to do a long trail with a good bit of climbing, I'll take two to three days off before. Lastly if you can't ride at least a hour every other day due to schedule or work, consider finding a spin class at a local gym. This year I'm enjoying the rides a lot more and am much more encouraged by my strength and endurance. I'm no racer nor do I want to be but I want to do my rides and enjoy them.

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    I have to post todays ride. I went out with the intent of pushing myself for 30 mins today. About 5 mins into the ride, another rider pulls up to me and said " you are new to that bike right" and I said yes. He offered some suggestions like raising my seat. We pulled over and he spent about 10 mins helping me with the right seat height. It was amazing what a difference. I rode for one hour after, "granny gears", but for one whole hour and my butt felt "OK".

    I think I am going to make an appointment for a fit at my LBS.

    Buying my first off rode bike, stressful, proper seat adjustment, priceless.

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    The best advice I can give is to be consistent.

    If all you can do is a little bit of good every day, that's where you start.

    Stretches- Pigeon pose, ham string, quad, prayer position.

    Just a small number of pushups, pullups, crunches. Planks, reverse leg lifts.

    Use a hard roller morning and night.

    (Hell, I just realized it takes a lot of time just to do the minimal basics. )

    Don't miss a day, even when you feel horrible.

    I see the bike as almost secondary to this. I was riding a bike on a fairly high level for decades. But I was really quite out of shape, and also out of balance in terms of body. When I started to stretch is when I discovered that I could to the pigeon pose with my right leg, yet couldn't even get close to the position with my left leg.

    A little bit of good every day, and over time you will have improved. Also, it doesn't happen quickly, so there is no alternative to the long term approach.
    Note to self: 85% of FTP for 20 min.

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