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    Quote Originally Posted by prphoto
    I don't know bout that but this bike appeals to a lot of people. It looks different than anything else being made by the bigguns in the industry. At this price I predict sell out or hard to find by 4th of July, and a giant photo thread here of all the custom rebuilds.
    In my humble opinion, the cruiser/klunker look is the hardest to pull off in a pleasing manner. Many try, few succeed, and most look wonky in some way or another.

    My top three as far as getting the lines right, proportions, and details spot on are Mountain Goat's FKR, Trek/Fisher Collection Sawyer, and Coconino's cruiser style bikes.

    (I think Inglis is making the Goat?)

    Anyway, those are my top three in that category. Everybody elses is just not quite right. Good, but not right.
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    Lets compare First Mountain Goat FKR

    And then the Inglis Retrotec Triple
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    The Retrotec still gives me goosebumps every time I see that picture.

    As for The Sawyer....if only it wasn't G2. I would so love to get one but I know that I don't get on with G2 geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob
    The Retrotec still gives me goosebumps every time I see that picture.

    As for The Sawyer....if only it wasn't G2. I would so love to get one but I know that I don't get on with G2 geometry.
    My thoughts exactly. If only it wasn't G2.

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    I'll toss this in just for sake of draggin this thread
    obviously I really like the old school school double top tube style
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    Quote Originally Posted by prphoto
    I don't know bout that but this bike appeals to a lot of people. It looks different than anything else being made by the bigguns in the industry. At this price I predict sell out or hard to find by 4th of July, and a giant photo thread here of all the custom rebuilds.
    I keep thinking that the style simply begs for a carbon version complete with lockable "gas tank" for storage. ditch the saddle bag.

    my dream bike is a Ti version with a bamboo laminate tank, stainless steel thumb combo lock (briefcase style), teak wood headset with mother of pearl inlay (Cane Creek?)
    of course Sterling Silver headset with more mother of pearl inlay
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    The Hunter brings to my mind a couple of more

    Rivendell Bombadil


    and the good old phantom
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    another swoopy twin top tube option from Van Dessel...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    $1429 for a rigid bike with X.5 shifters?

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! Way over priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prphoto
    Gotta give a shout out to Sonoma County's Curtis Ingles and his retrotec.
    Now, that is sweeeet.

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    And then the Inglis Retrotec Triple
    Yes.
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    New spec F-K-R frame that we recently had made. Still working up a parts package for it.

    I was originally going with a bright red but Russ at AirArt told me he had a cool "vintage" red that he had been saving. I think he made a great call!














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    Quote Originally Posted by First Flight
    New spec F-K-R frame that we recently had made. Still working up a parts package for it.

    I was originally going with a bright red but Russ at AirArt told me he had a cool "vintage" red that he had been saving. I think he made a great call!



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    that is beautiful! should've done a rigid fork (imo)

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    I guess this is great for Trek to be grouped in with all of these custom frames
    Rudy Projects look ridiculous

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    absolutely love whatever this is (didn't we see gary straddling this on page #1?)

    Quote Originally Posted by SelfPropelledDevo
    I'll toss this in just for sake of draggin this thread
    obviously I really like the old school school double top tube style
    also, i've been drooling over that retrotec triple for while now. such a beautiful build, imo. it's so classy that it looks as though it's been plucked out of the crested butte mtn bike museum.

    for me, the sawyer frame still takes the cake in terms of looks and utility. moreover, i'm lucky that it's the only one that i can afford Thanks Gary et al!

    surprised that nobody has mentioned the McClung's (see thread: My New McClung). they put all of these bikes to shame, imho.

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    An original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed
    I guess this is great for Trek to be grouped in with all of these custom frames
    You get that its a knock-off right?
    You get that some people think its overpriced?
    You get that it costs a fraction of these other framesets?
    So which side of the label snobs you siding with?
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    Custom '53 Klunk



    Here's a straight bar Schwinn I did...I wish it was a 29er, but I might be able to fit some 650bs under it.

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    You get that its a knock-off right? All of the custom frames are knock off's too, by your definition.
    You get that some people think its overpriced? Yes.
    You get that it costs a fraction of these other framesets? Yes.
    So which side of the label snobs you siding with? I'm on the side that doesn't give a damn about labels anymore. I had an original campstove green Karate Monkey and then I paid out the yang for a custom filet brazed Wily. Both were great bikes. My new bike will be the one that fits my budget and my body.

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    I like it.

    Here's my take on the style.

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    i like how this is turning into a clunkers thread. thanks for the pics!

    velobike, what do your other bikes look like?! that thing is sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blunderbuss
    I've had one on backorder since a week after it was released. Current ETA is January. Full advertised retail is $1429.99. You should be able to get it for less.
    Hey Voiles, Mine's dated 12/20...Want me to bring it over and let you drool on it when it comes in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed
    You get that its a knock-off right? All of the custom frames are knock off's too, by your definition.
    You get that some people think its overpriced? Yes.
    You get that it costs a fraction of these other framesets? Yes.
    So which side of the label snobs you siding with? I'm on the side that doesn't give a damn about labels anymore. I had an original campstove green Karate Monkey and then I paid out the yang for a custom filet brazed Wily. Both were great bikes. My new bike will be the one that fits my budget and my body.

    Haters gota Hate. I gotsta hate on your spelling of gotta. Boyeeeeee!

    Pardon me for my flippant response, you are a man who shares a taste for the finer things in bike, and you have covered the bases in labelry, by knockoff i mean a cheap copy without all the fine finish details and custom geo"s.
    And in this respect thats the sawyer.
    But I get you, life is short if you want a klunker there is an able group of bike builders who awake your phone call. and if if you want no frills, surely surly fits the bill!

    as long as you get my drift please dont spellcheck me, I have a wife already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tw3nty9er
    absolutely love whatever this is (didn't we see gary straddling this on page #1?)
    thats a custom Hunter 29er

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    Ummmm...

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    personally I kind like to try to point out that...

    in large, due to all the awesome parts that are now available, and of course 29ers...

    that... uhh... HELLO!

    a kick ass custom double top tubed retro style cruiser can be stupid fast
    not only in the dirt but on the road.

    uhhh...
    29x2.0" with 48x11t = about 127 gear inch.
    today I rolled out a 45mph descent thru Pebble Beach, in the rain.
    hell-a-freaking-cool.
    fast enough to be driving the bike... no doubt
    fast enough to have to actually think about how you brake and counter steer
    but with enough gear inch to actually drive the wheels with some drift

    hell-a-fun

    and of course, it goes in the dirt
    aka: Tour Divide
    racks, panniers, fenders, frame bags, blah blah blah...

    IMHO: the design begs to be utilized.

    I've ran into GF a handful of times, and honestly, I tell him this updated high tech retro approach, has a market. i.e. Ducati and any of the other "modern Cafe" bikes...

    I love my Hunter, its totally 100% custom from the exact swoops in the tubes, right down to where and what type of bosses I wanted. All the cables are full length housing, and all point downward from above the bike. The top tube is smooth, nothing to snag on, etc...

    the bars, the positioning, the whole thing was thought out. I was riding a Salsa Moto Rapido, screwing around with the fit, and the way to ride it, when after about 2 years, I finally hit Rick Hunter up to build the exact bike I wanted.

    the new Sawyer, I think is a rockin bike.
    but.. there are some funky aspects to it, it looks cool.
    hopefully it will sell
    hopefully there will be more of mainstream following

    klunkers? well... I'd hope that the genre of the retro cafe/board track bike, would go thru a R&D process, yielding performance bikes. Bikes that can do everything, all you have to do is change the bars to your liking.

    when I see Niner producing a 17lbs hardtail... holy crap! I can remember riding a 20lb Concord with Record, and to top it off, it didn't even come close to how well The Hunter rides.
    pathetic... i know.

    maybe I'm getting old
    I'm not into hucking
    I'm not even into agro XC stuff, much...
    instead I'd rather roll out a bunch of miles.

    ya... its about "mixed terrain" <---- funny how everything gets a label
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike
    I like it.

    Here's my take on the style.

    btw: I'm diggin this bike too...

    klunkers, retro, cafe, board track... rat fiink...

    what I'd hope for is a fast rigid Cafe style, Ti, carbon, bamboo.... something
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkenstein
    ...
    honestly
    ya... clunker
    when cars ran on leaded gas
    calculators and digital watches were hi-tech
    when cars had chokes
    and we watch 12 channels on TV
    somewhere between: incense and peppermint, hey jude, long roads, purple haze, GTO's, trans am, a mission to the moon, touch tone phones, before 700c, when slide rulers were in schools.

    and what?

    no one wants to bring this genre up to date?
    modern genius where credit is surely due: Jeff Jones!
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    I don't like the look where the top tubes are split or split at the seat tube and then goes each side of the seat tube back to the drops. I was going to get a Sawyer but then I saw Spot Brand's Highline and it comes with beltdrive and costs less so I canceled my Sawyer.

    To me Emory has the best looking cruiser- seven eighth's tubing and big triangle bracing stays in 3/8" or whatever they are.
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    Van Dessel: WTF http://www.vandesselsports.com/?page_id=17
    is another great bike. I'll probably be building up 2 of these bikes with APEX groupo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckman4
    Hey Voiles, Mine's dated 12/20...Want me to bring it over and let you drool on it when it comes in?
    Mine shows 12-20 now too, however... I told Randizzle to cancel it. Turns out I don't really have any desire to ride a rigid bike. Good thing you're getting one so I can at least see it.
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    "I was going to get a Sawyer but then I saw Spot Brand's Highline and it comes with beltdrive and costs less" I think that you will see Sawyers for just over $1300 so really a push
    but cool bike anyway really more of a townie than a klunker







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    Quote Originally Posted by TunicaTrails
    The Chrysler PT Cruiser of bicycles.
    Funny, sad and very true. There is a market for everything...maybe even one
    with fly handlebars and a banana seat.
    Waiting for the twisted tube Lynskey version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by prphoto
    What about the Mt Goat ? And whats so great about belt drive?

    yeah Devo fly that Freak Flag!
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    What do you think? I like the skinny tubes on my Emory cromo cruiser. Now that it's a 29'er, it's way fun to ride. The Mutano tires are pretty skinny but they go fast on hardpack. I mainly ride the thing in my neighborhood but have taken it on a couple 1 hr+ dirt rides, it worked great. To me the Mt. Goat looks not pretty, heavy, and expensive; though I'm sure it's not heavy.

    The biggest challenge on my Emory, which I bought thirty years ago, was always the seat post. Eventually I found a british unicycle post "Nelsons Column" that is in the 7/8ths but 400mm long. I really think the combo of 7/8ths tubing, matching fork, and the main triangle 'braces' are what make the look. And the bike rides as noice as it looks. It's what Trek should have done with the over-elaborated Sawyer.

    Belts are good for the beach.

    The Emory might still be available... http://www.aerofast.com/bike_cruiser/mojave.html...
    But I don't know where you'd get the Cook Bros fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prphoto
    "I was going to get a Sawyer but then I saw Spot Brand's Highline and it comes with beltdrive and costs less" I think that you will see Sawyers for just over $1300 so really a push
    but cool bike anyway really more of a townie than a klunker





    Right on Devo what you say!
    The Highline reminds me of the 50 year old Raleighs we still ride at my grandmother's house. But I bet the frame won't flex like those old bikes do. I am planning on putting Stan's "Crow" tire on the Highline and using it as a beach bike for me and the wife because the Emory is too fine to get all salt/sandy.
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    Just informed that my Sawyer is on the truck...should be in the shop by Friday. Too bad I have to work all weekend including Friday. Will have it in hand by next Tuesday though. Whoohoo!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super E
    Just informed that my Sawyer is on the truck...should be in the shop by Friday. Too bad I have to work all weekend including Friday. Will have it in hand by next Tuesday though. Whoohoo!!!
    What size did you get ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla81
    What size did you get ?
    17.5 (medium frame)

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    Congratulations Super E. I'll be looking for pictures Tuesday night...
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    congrats, this is music to my ears! i hope mine is on the same schedule.

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    I really dig the Sawyer...when I get tired of my horrid Rig ebb, it will be on my short list...

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    Imho...

    Quote Originally Posted by tw3nty9er
    Seriously considering one, however, I wish I could learn more about it before I throw down a deposit on one. Has anyone heard any gossip about this bike? What assumptions can you extrapolate from the info that's already out there (see trek's website)?

    It look's heavy but maybe all the extra tubes are throwing my off. Will it be vertically compliant and laterally stiff? for some reason it looks like it would be a little noodlish to me but I just don't have a ton of experience (only been in the game for 1.5 yrs).
    This looks like a cool bike to "kick around" with, but I wouldn't make it my primary mtb bike. It and the Raleigh XXIX have similar issues... flexie. good luck.
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    How do we all know it's flexy?

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    yes, can you please elaborate on this flexiness you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super E
    17.5 (medium frame)
    Cool,
    I have a 21" ordered.

    It pays to support your LBS.
    Mine cost me less than $1100

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    Sweet Ride

    I work at a Trek dealer, Kulshan Cycles in Bellingham WA. Just got our first Sawyer in stock yesterday and I built it up myself.

    It's pretty sweet. Solid construction and decent components. 21" model weighs 30lb. which is not super light but its a steel frame so the extra weight is worth it. Dropouts are pretty sweet. They are a Paragon-esque style sliders. Very easy to setup SS. The frame it split where the chain stay meets seat stay so it is belt ready. Handles with characteristics of the Trek/Fisher G2 geometry, very nimble for a 29er.

    I'd recommend this bike, especially for the price. I only wish they offered it as a frameset because I would love to set this up as a SS belt drive. Everything is there for it but it is not worth the extra money to buy as a complete only to replace pretty much all of the parts.

    I suspect if the complete catches on they may offer the frameset in the future. I doubt they are making too many extra frames for now.

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    thanks for the update, dave2ndln!

    What kind of riding did you do with it? did you notice any flex as others have suggested? how did the fork feel? feel free to post pics!

    also, can't you convince your boss to take all the parts into stock and just sell you the frame?

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    Just a test ride after the bike was built. Just mobbing around streets and parking lots near the shop. It was raining hard so I kept it pretty short too.

    I currently ride a Gary Fisher Rig and love the way it handles but would like a steel frame bike with some additional rack/fender mounts for bikepacking. I did make a conscious effort to pay attention to the handling of the Sawyer and it was very similar to my Rig. Handlebars are different than any I have tried but I like them quite a bit.

    My boss is pretty cool and would probably work out something for me if I asked, but I have gotten to the point where I plan to go custom with a local frame builder so I can get all the fine details I want and support the local economy. (Shameless plug www.donkelopebikes.com)

    That being said there are few details I would want that are not already included with the Sawyer.

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    Oh and as far as it being flexy. It seems everyone is basing this on nothing but looking at the bike. I haven't taken it on trail at all but I'd be surprised if one could notice any more flex than any other steel bike. Steel flexes, and that is why people prefer it in many cases over the harsh ride of an aluminum frame. The dual top tube I would think gives it more lateral stiffness and the curved tubing seems it would add to the amount of up and down flex that you would probably like on a rigid mountain bike. The bike is shaped like a giant leaf spring. I think that is a plus.

    This is all based on speculation. I don't claim to be an expert on the minutiae of the things people seem to obsess over on forums sometimes. All that being said, personally, I would not be too worried about flex as a factor but test ride it first if you get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave2ndln
    I work at a Trek dealer, Kulshan Cycles in Bellingham WA. Just got our first Sawyer in stock yesterday and I built it up myself.

    It's pretty sweet. Solid construction and decent components. 21" model weighs 30lb. which is not super light but its a steel frame so the extra weight is worth it. Dropouts are pretty sweet. They are a Paragon-esque style sliders. Very easy to setup SS. The frame it split where the chain stay meets seat stay so it is belt ready. Handles with characteristics of the Trek/Fisher G2 geometry, very nimble for a 29er.

    I'd recommend this bike, especially for the price. I only wish they offered it as a frameset because I would love to set this up as a SS belt drive. Everything is there for it but it is not worth the extra money to buy as a complete only to replace pretty much all of the parts.

    I suspect if the complete catches on they may offer the frameset in the future. I doubt they are making too many extra frames for now.
    post pics if you can
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