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    Trek/Fisher Mamba and X-Cal same frame?

    Are these two models the same frame, or is there a difference in them? Seems same material and tube manipulation.

    Are all the Fisher aluminum frames the same frame just different parts spec?

    Anyone have ballpark on average weights? Looking at the two WSD models, I realize there's a huge spec difference, but I'd rather spec own parts for it anyway.

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    Glad you asked... I've been researching the same thing. They look the same, with the same description. So im leaning towards them being the same, however im sure someone with knowledge will chime in...

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    I was just looking at both bikes as well.....Same geometry, 100mm fork.....Looks like the same frame to me..

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    i think with the 2009-10 frames, the mamba was the same frame as the cobia/xcal/paragon. not sure about 2011.
    - 1995 Giant ATX 870
    - 2011 Salsa El Mariachi XL
    - 2011 Kona Unit (singlespeed) XL

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    2011 the 29 hardtail frames are the same except for the RIG and Paragon, and probably the WSD. The Paragon for instance has the press fit BB and tapered headtube.
    I'm looking forward to regretting this.......

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    hmmmm,,, im looking for a 29er..im kinda leaning towards x-cal.. now i wanna see a cobia.. ==save me few hundreds bucks

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    Thanks. You all verified what i was thinking too.

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    14.5" Mamba WSD just arrived. Anything anyone wants to know as I assemble? The "lilac" paint looks awesome, even for my being a guy. She will love it.

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