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    Ti Carver + Knard = ???

    I'm not sure what to call this beast, but it is awesome! I took my first ride last weekend and had a blast. This is more of a proof of concept for me, not a permanent setup. I had done some 'cold working' of the stays on this frame a few years back, and it just barely works with this setup. Sliders are all the way back. Here is the list for the gear freaks:

    Frame: Carver titanium 29er with sliders
    Fork: Niner steel (clears the tire just fine)
    Wheels: Hope hubs (singlespeed rear) and Jeff Jones 50mm rims, built by MC. His comment was they are 'super burly'. Not the lightest, but that's not the point.
    Tires: 120tpi 29x3 Knards
    Brakes: Old Hope Mono Mini
    Cranks: Truvativ AKA with spiderless HBC 28t Ti ring
    Cassette: 6 speed, 12-33 titanium, 8 speed spacing
    Rear der.: Shimano XTR M960
    Seatpost: Old style Moots layback titanium
    Saddle: WTB Silverado ti railed
    Stem: Thomson
    Bar: Groovy ti Luv Handle
    Grips: Ergon something with short barends
    Shifter: Old Shimano XT 8 speed rapidfire

    The first ride was just super fun. I started the tires at 15 psi, and stopped twice to lower the pressure. I forgot to recheck at the end of the ride, but my guess is I am around 12 back and 10 front. This was my first MTB ride in many months, so my legs were a bit dead, but I still cleared some climbs that I only sometimes make on other bikes. The grip is just incredible! You basically just don't have to think about traction, just pick your line and pedal! It certainly takes more muscle and a different riding style than my 22 lb singlespeed, but it's just a blast. My head is already creating a custom Carver Ti 420 with proper clearance and geometry! Anyway, enjoy the pictures:
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    That made me smile a bit Can only for now imagine how fun it is, but hopefully will at least get to try one on the front of the KM. Asked for a quote for a custom frame last month and already made sure to ask for clearance for the Knard
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    Knardly....nice work....
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    I would paint the fork black or flat grey to match the bike, or you could get a black sheep Ti fork or the Carver Ti o'beast fork and call it complete. Great bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    I would paint the fork black or flat grey to match the bike, or you could get a black sheep Ti fork or the Carver Ti o'beast fork and call it complete. Great bike!
    Yeah, the fork color is a bit off, but it's what was on sale when I was looking. I already have a Black Sheep Ti fork on my singlespeed, not in a hurry to pay for another one! As I said, this is not a permanent setup, just testing the grounds. Ride #2 after work today, can't wait!

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    Sure wish i could stuff a Knard on the back of my Jones. Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixgeardan View Post
    Sure wish i could stuff a Knard on the back of my Jones. Looks great!
    Yeah me too..

    Bike looks rad!
    Ridin ridin ridin..... raw ti!

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    Let us know if you try to put together something like a custom 420 with Knards. That sounds like an ideal rigid rig.

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    Did I see you on that rig at Graham a few days ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokePete View Post
    Did I see you on that rig at Graham a few days ago?

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    Sure did, but you didn't stop to check it out! I'll be back at about 5 today, are you riding today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Sure did, but you didn't stop to check it out! I'll be back at about 5 today, are you riding today?

    Mark

    Hoping to be at Graham around 4:30 and definitely want to check it out!

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    Awesome bikeny. I didn't know Jeff Jones was selling a 29x50 rim.
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    is that the earlier 490mm fork or the current 470mm?

    Either way, looks great!

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    Ti Carver + Knard = ???

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokePete View Post
    Hoping to be at Graham around 4:30 and definitely want to check it out!

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    Looks like I will be lucky to get there by 5:00 but will make it for sure and will look for you in the woods.

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    Ti Carver + Knard = ???

    The bike in real life is super cool.

    Nice riding with you today. Trails were mint !



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    Ti Carver + Knard = ???

    Knice knarver!

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    Just a quick update. Still riding this beast as shown above, except for some SS riding before SSAP, on a different bike. The bike is just super fun and climbs unbelievably! As long as you keep your legs turning, it will just roll up any chunk or rock garden in sight. I settled on 13 psi rear and 11 psi front for now.

    Stay tuned for version 2. It's coming much sooner than I anticipated, just got a tracking number email!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Just a quick update. Still riding this beast as shown above, except for some SS riding before SSAP, on a different bike. The bike is just super fun and climbs unbelievably! As long as you keep your legs turning, it will just roll up any chunk or rock garden in sight. I settled on 13 psi rear and 11 psi front for now.

    Stay tuned for version 2. It's coming much sooner than I anticipated, just got a tracking number email!!!
    I'll look for it at Graham ... can't wait!

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    Really a neat bike! Do the sliders need to be all the way back to accomodate the tire? The knards should raise the bb to about 13.4" ? What geo changes would you make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincentg View Post
    Really a neat bike! Do the sliders need to be all the way back to accomodate the tire? The knards should raise the bb to about 13.4" ? What geo changes would you make?
    Yes, the sliders need to be slammed all the way back. Even then, I get an chainstay rub every once in a while while cornering hard. Honestly, I have no idea what the BB height is, but it doesn't feel really high. Geometry changes I would make? First would be to get the chainstays as short as possible. Not sure how short can be done. A little more standover would be nice. It hasn't been an issue, but it could be ! Lastly, slacker angles. I've come to appreciate slack geometry so would like something around 69 deg headtube angle. I think that's it.

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    Looking more carefully at your pictures, I notice that the frame dosen't have the chainstay plate. Is it an earlier version? Wonder if the current version with the plate has more tire clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    I would paint the fork black or flat grey to match the bike, or you could get a black sheep Ti fork or the Carver Ti o'beast fork and call it complete. Great bike!
    I like it exactly as it is! Great bike man, congrats!!

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    I was confused, saw the sliders and assumed that the frame was the 420.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincentg View Post
    I was confused, saw the sliders and assumed that the frame was the 420.
    Nope, just a standard Carver Ti 99er with the slider option from a few years ago.

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    The next chapter, go here:

    Introducing the Carver Gnarvester!

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