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    Yeah, he looks SOOOOoo comfortable on that Must really like having his ass hangin off the back of the saddle to get some semblence of decent cockpit Bet he's also digging the ghetto style knees bent always, can put feet flat on the ground at anytime style of riding
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Yeah, he looks SOOOOoo comfortable on that Must really like having his ass hangin off the back of the saddle to get some semblence of decent cockpit Bet he's also digging the ghetto style knees bent always, can put feet flat on the ground at anytime style of riding
    Are you really criticizing the fit of a 70 year old who hasn't been on a bike since he was a kid? He is lucky to walk a mile on a good day and this set up allowed him to ride four flat miles with his grandkids, see some beautiful terrain and not fall over and break a hip in the process since he could always put both feet flat on the ground while seated if need be.

    You, sir, are an ass.

    On top of that you seemingly have no sense of humor which is probably more sad.

    Welcome to the ignore list. You are the first.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Are you really criticizing the fit of a 70 year old who hasn't been on a bike since he was a kid? He is lucky to walk a mile on a good day and this set up allowed him to ride four flat miles with his grandkids, see some beautiful terrain and not fall over and break a hip in the process since he could always put both feet flat on the ground while seated if need be.

    You, sir, are an ass.

    On top of that you seemingly have no sense of humor which is probably more sad.

    Welcome to the ignore list. You are the first.
    i am sorry you had to suffer from LyNxitis...on the other hand you should have expected so much and therefore would not have been surprised. its a shame not everybody can have class like me

    by the way, do you think it would make a good commuter bike? what types of rack and panniers would you suggest? thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel

    You, sir, are an ass.

    On top of that you seemingly have no sense of humor which is probably more sad.

    Welcome to the ignore list. You are the first.

    Hey, while you're at it...throw Fo on that ignore list.

    You'll thank me later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaholic
    Hey, while you're at it...throw Fo on that ignore list.

    You'll thank me later.
    please at least use an updated picture. I currently sport a skullet. thanks in advance

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    Yep, some people can come across harsh at times. Some are simply just a straight up ass, no getting around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    this set up allowed him to ride four flat miles with his grandkids, see some beautiful terrain and not fall over.
    I hope to be fortunate enough do enjoy something like this when I'm 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    I hope to be fortunate enough do enjoy something like this when I'm 70.
    Aqua only wishes he were that young

    The view made the ill fitting ride worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    I hope to be fortunate enough do enjoy something like this when I'm 70.
    I agree.

    And no offense to Enel, as it is cool, but Aquaholic is 76 years old and he is a pretty good rider too

    EDIT: Damnit, Enel beat me to the punch by mocking the oh so easy target of GeezerHolic

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    I wish I could still ride a bike with my dad. Still remember being 4 years old, having my own bike, and going for a ride with him, once I learned how. Major milestone in my life.

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    I really want a Jones, someday I will finally buy one, till then thanks for the cool pics. of yours.

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    Anyone who can annoy Fo like Lynx does is solid in my book.

    I will try and quote him everytime he says something that is annoying tho so you can see it anyways Enel, you should learn to be more tolerant of your fellow E friends here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Anyone who can annoy Fo like Lynx does is solid in my book.

    I will try and quote him everytime he says something that is annoying tho so you can see it anyways Enel, you should learn to be more tolerant of your fellow E friends here.
    I have no issues with LyNx to be quite honest, its your guts that i hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    I have no issues with LyNx to be quite honest, its your guts that i hate
    I would put you on my ignore list but that actually makes me happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    I would put you on my ignore list but that actually makes me happy
    whatever...go ride your lame cross bike poseur

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    Good idea, I'm gonna put a fat front on it and ride it over a rock, then carpetbomb the 29er board with pics

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    Sorry you feel that way, you posted the pic, didn't say anything about him not riding bikes regularly, so I took it that was another Jones"perfect fit" pic. I just don't take the BS of one size fitting all riders that Jones throws out and that his followrs seem to take as gospel, if that were so then all cbike companies would only produce one size frame.

    As to your Dad, glad he got out, sorry he hasn't riden a bike since he was a kid. As to 70 being a/the reason I know too many "old geezers" who'd smoke me up any climb and almost stay with me on the descent for me to think of 70 as old and needing anything special in terms of fit/style Hum maybe that's why Aqua and Enel both need the shorter more upright cockpits the Jones provides never thought about their age

    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Are you really criticizing the fit of a 70 year old who hasn't been on a bike since he was a kid? He is lucky to walk a mile on a good day and this set up allowed him to ride four flat miles with his grandkids, see some beautiful terrain and not fall over and break a hip in the process since he could always put both feet flat on the ground while seated if need be.

    You, sir, are an ass.

    On top of that you seemingly have no sense of humor which is probably more sad.

    Welcome to the ignore list. You are the first.
    One day your life will flash before your eyes, will it be worth watching??

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    Some one post pics of the diamond frame & unicrown fork!Mines 2-3 weeks out
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixgeardan
    Some one post pics of the diamond frame & unicrown fork!Mines 2-3 weeks out
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    Same here!
    Edit: Are you doing the fatty or 29er front?
    Last edited by Ozmosis; 03-22-2011 at 07:30 PM.

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    29er front with polished paul whub to match the king rear.

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    Another Tai-Jones. It's a little different from the prior two I have shown, traditional diamond frame with traditional (but really really fat) two bladed fork...

    We broke it in on a dawn patrol ride today:

















    SuperDan is a much more experienced (and much stronger!) rigid rider than I am. He built this thing up last night and just ripped it today. He felt it required no adaptation and generally was invisible under him. It felt like a slightly more springy version of the Simon Bar with better steering precision. I bounced on it a little and the fore-aft flex is slightly more than the truss fork, but not much at all compared to other forks I have tried. It has a cool shape, sort of like the Willits WOW fork though not as dramatic with the back sweep. I would like to swap forks with him some time to try them back and forth, but we are both pretty happy with our respective set ups, so I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

    The mound of spacers is a consequence of a short un-corrected A-C fork with no top pinch bolt on the truss to take up the space. I told Dan he could solve that with a riser bar but he doesn't like 'em.

    I think I have mine dialed where I want it now, I swapped the stem to something just a wee bit longer, lower, lighter, and blacker




    These things are becoming as common as lizards in these parts.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Mind if I throw a pic of mine in here?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmosis
    Mind if I throw a pic of mine in here?
    Hey, that's crazy... your trail looks almost exactly like my favorite trail here in San Antonio!
    Oh, and nice lookin' Jonesey ya got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos
    Hey, that's crazy... your trail looks almost exactly like my favorite trail here in San Antonio!
    Oh, and nice lookin' Jonesey ya got there.

    Los
    Thanks! This is actually in eastern Iowa. I had a business trip to Dubuque, so I brought the Jones with for a maiden voyage. Lots of fun! Really cool trail too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmosis
    Mind if I throw a pic of mine in here?
    Not at all, that's what the thread is for.

    Nice traditional! We need to get a blue one in here.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding
    Holy Humongous Rotors Batman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Holy Humongous Rotors Batman!
    They are only 185mm. I could go BIGGER!

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    @Allroy,what trails are these shots from??
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    That's it. I want one. Time to start saving for a 24".

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    Another shot of mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyT
    That's it. I want one. Time to start saving for a 24".
    I don't know how tall you are, but I'm 6'2" and expected to be a little cramped on my 23", but have found that not to be the case. It fit like a glove right out of the box. Obviously I'm using the Thompson layback post, but my stem is only 90mm and my seat is centered on the rails. It was hard to pull the trigger though, having not tried one first.

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    I'm 2" shorter, but have used short stems and long tt's for so long now that I don't think I would go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmosis
    Another shot of mine...
    Is that a 50mm front rim or 70?
    What's on the back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by staz
    Is that a 50mm front rim or 70?
    What's on the back?
    50mm Jones on the front, 35mm Gordo on the rear

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    Dan seems to be getting along well with his Jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    I have been following this thread for a while, really liking the diamond frames with the truss fork! Interesting to find that some people are using conventional bars, always assumed that Jones bikes always had Jones bars. What I would really like to know is the seat tube length. I'm only 5'9" and although the top tube length seems perfect (a nice 23") I have always liked a low slung frame (thats why I like On-Ones, 23" top tube with a 16" seat tube). So could anyone measure the seat tube length for me?Lots of stand over is always a good thing in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jupiter
    I have been following this thread for a while, really liking the diamond frames with the truss fork! Interesting to find that some people are using conventional bars, always assumed that Jones bikes always had Jones bars. What I would really like to know is the seat tube length. I'm only 5'9" and although the top tube length seems perfect (a nice 23") I have always liked a low slung frame (thats why I like On-Ones, 23" top tube with a 16" seat tube). So could anyone measure the seat tube length for me?Lots of stand over is always a good thing in my opinion.
    Here's my son riding on mine:
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/22403597" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/22403597">AB on the Jones</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user6459200">Austin B</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Uh-oh, that bike is obviously not the right size for your son. The fit police are gonna come after you and your son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough
    Uh-oh, that bike is obviously not the right size for your son. The fit police are gonna come after you and your son.
    *gasp*

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    Where is that? Looks kinda like Old Town Ft. Collins.

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    Front window of Brown Cycles, in Grand Junction.
    Its sitting in the front window while the shop owner builds it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Even Gramps likes the ride





    I got to assemble a bud's spaceframe/truss fork tonight. He also got JJ's trick BB7 set up. It is a very unique and thoughtful design. Nokon wrapped in shrink wrap connected to custom bent tubing of some sort. Absolutely sealed, and very compression resistant. This was coupled to XTR brake levers.



















    He got pretty much the entire Jones package with the H-bars, etc. We left the steerer pretty high until he is certain about bar height.

    He has not had a new bike in a long time and he was pretty tickled, riding around with a huge grin on his face. Just riding in the driveway, I could not tell any difference between my diamond and the spaceframe.
    What kind of bike rack is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morandi
    What kind of bike rack is that?
    Not my car or bike, but I am told it is some sort of Mini brand accessory that secures into receivers in the back of the car. It was pretty cool.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Fresh from the oven BLUE Spaceframe :<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5630273298/" title="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/5630273298_3a8cb1b088_b.jpg" width="680" height="1024" alt="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689663/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5629689663_f7c87e4632_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689085/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5629689085_b697287351_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a>
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    Like it I do. For this sort of move it has no peer IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Like it I do. For this sort of move it has no peer IMO.
    I love the give up right behind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Dan seems to be getting along well with his Jones.

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    Here's FixedGearDan making the same maneuver:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Here's FixedGearDan making the same maneuver:
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    Hey, what gives? That looks like it has a freewheel on it!!! Sell out!
    Highly disappointed in Dan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos
    Hey, what gives? That looks like it has a freewheel on it!!! Sell out!
    Highly disappointed in Dan...

    Los (realized his fixed off road days were behind him a few years ago...)



    Los,

    Riding your fixed gear bike that one time, and subsequently almost breaking my ankles, made me realize how much I loathe those things.
    What the EFF is "All MOUNTAIN"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos
    Hey, what gives? That looks like it has a freewheel on it!!! Sell out!
    Highly disappointed in Dan...

    Los (realized his fixed off road days were behind him a few years ago...)
    Ok I fess up Ive been free wheel for a few years now.A couple of reasons
    1 my knees do not like back pressure anymore
    2 coasting is fun!
    3 Im getting friggin old.
    I guess i will change my name to FreewheelDan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixgeardan
    Ok I fess up Ive been free wheel for a few years now.A couple of reasons
    1 my knees do not like back pressure anymore
    2 coasting is fun!
    3 Im getting friggin old.
    I guess i will change my name to FreewheelDan.
    Yeah, I put a freewheel on for a 24 hour race a couple of years ago. At the time, I figured it would be a temporary thing, but as you said, coasting is fun!
    Turned 40 last week, which while not old (at least to me now,) is too old for me to go back.
    Besides, I'd miss the smiles that downhills giveme now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos
    Yeah, I put a freewheel on for a 24 hour race a couple of years ago. At the time, I figured it would be a temporary thing, but as you said, coasting is fun!
    Turned 40 last week, which while not old (at least to me now,) is too old for me to go back.
    Besides, I'd miss the smiles that downhills giveme now!

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    That blue is fantastic!

    Anyone know the seat tube length and stand-over on the steel diamond frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot
    guess i'm still young....

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    Yeah, we can't all be fire breathing, rip roaring, bourbon swilling fixed riding rock stars forever!

    BTW, good luck on your upstream GDR effort this year, I'll be rooting for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos
    Yeah, we can't all be fire breathing, rip roaring, bourbon swilling fixed riding rock stars forever!

    BTW, good luck on your upstream GDR effort this year, I'll be rooting for you!

    Los

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    Best rigid frame I have ever ridden. Period. I love this thing and have zero regrets about buying it.

    Just sharing the post ride stoke. I usually seem to come off this thing pretty stoked.



    Dan has a Jones diamond with two bladed fork whilst I have the Jones Diamond with Truss fork. We did a big 3-4 hour ride the other day and swapped bikes for the last 15 minutes. We both came away feeling that the differences in the forks were pretty minimal. Tire pressures were more significant. That being said, we both felt the two bladed fork was slightly more comfortable, and the Truss tucked slightly less under braking. These differences were truly minimal and would not be noticed without a back to back ride. The two blade had a slight tendency to spring the front end in the air. This is not uncontrollable, but it is something I have not felt with a rigid fork before.

    Personally, if I were buying, I would lean toward the standard diamond/two blade combo and save a few hundred bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak View Post
    <img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5629689085_b697287351_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe">
    Very nice color
    Did you buy a black frame and brought it to a powder coater or did you order the frame with custom color?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    Best rigid frame I have ever ridden. Period. I love this thing and have zero regrets about buying it.
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    Personally, if I were buying, I would lean toward the standard diamond/two blade combo and save a few hundred bucks.
    Agreed! Love mine.
    Since we're making recommendations, I would advise to try the fat front. I recently went on a roadtrip to a trail that has actual rocks () and the fat front was amazing!

    The only picture I have is from a recent gravel ride, just before the sun went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozmosis View Post
    Agreed! Love mine.
    Since we're making recommendations, I would advise to try the fat front. I recently went on a roadtrip to a trail that has actual rocks () and the fat front was amazing!

    The only picture I have is from a recent gravel ride, just before the sun went down.
    Went with the Truss/Space/Fat Front......and just got the Loop H Bars.....this combo is rocking so good......I sold my DW Sultan
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    Nice, that is a short cockpit w/ that stem. How tall are you/ inseam? I run a 90 and I don't think I would like a 70. But really I don't know, I guess. 6' here w/ a 32" inseam. These bikes are a lot of fun.

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    No this was JJ choice of color when he ordered this frames. Thanks!
    Keep it simple, keep it single!

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    Thanks ! I think the stand over is just under 30 inches
    Keep it simple, keep it single!

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    Thanks! im only 5'5 and with the layback seatpost. I feel that the 70 - 80 mm feels perfect.
    Keep it simple, keep it single!

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    what...no chat of whether a 4.5" tyre will fit yet? !

    what i'm wondering is how wide is the enve composites DH rim? might this make for a pretty rad front end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    what...no chat of whether a 4.5" tyre will fit yet? !

    what i'm wondering is how wide is the enve composites DH rim? might this make for a pretty rad front end?
    I wondered whether the 4.5" tyre would fit when I first saw the rumours, and there's easily more than 1/2" of extra clearance on both sides of the wheel in the truss fork with the 3.8" Larry on a large marge rim.

    (edit) just looked at it again and it's more like 18mm of clearance, either side of the tyre.
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    sweet bike!

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    book mark

    I am becoming very interested in the diamond from and 2 blade fork. I only live 2 hours south of Ashland, so I am going to try and see if I can test ride one. Only reason I could justify one is if it is "that" much more fun than my current bike.

    I do have one question that I can't seem to find the answer for. Whats the approximate chainstay length on your bike Enel? Oh, and since I am asking questions that have probably already been answered. How tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak View Post
    Fresh from the oven BLUE Spaceframe :<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5630273298/" title="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/5630273298_3a8cb1b088_b.jpg" width="680" height="1024" alt="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689663/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5629689663_f7c87e4632_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689085/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5629689085_b697287351_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a>
    I vote this frame as being the best looking!!

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    If there is one drawback about the Jones Spaceframe, it's the attention, especially w/ a Fat front. Many have never seen such a bike. In the parking lot or at trail head , on the trails, be ready to socialize. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    If there is one drawback about the Jones Spaceframe, it's the attention, especially w/ a Fat front. Many have never seen such a bike. In the parking lot or at trail head , on the trails, be ready to socialize. LOL
    Just like singlespeeds back in 1996...people will get over it, then a big manufacturere will jump on board...next stop: mainstream

    Loving the blue too!

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    Loki - on the CS length, the Jones is longer than the current fashion, about 435-450mm range from the EBB I think. Maybe a tad shorter. I test-rode one a while back with a 110mm stem on it (I hate long stems!) and it was still one of the easiest bikes to bunny-hop and loft over logs, it was a very different bike to what I'm used to but at the same time it was very intuitive to ride. I generally ride a 26" bike locally, wide bars, 120mm forks etc and I found the Jones hopped and floated over stuff just fine.

    Normal numbers don't have relativity on this frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    what...no chat of whether a 4.5" tyre will fit yet? !

    what i'm wondering is how wide is the enve composites DH rim? might this make for a pretty rad front end?
    How much heavier will it be, and will it provide extra cushion or will it be mostly knobs?

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    @Hobbyfreak:

    I'm not sure if the standard 23" spaceframes front is high enough for me. Please could you measure the distance shown in the attached picture? (front axle to top ot the fork)
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    25"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    25"
    Thanx. But I must know the BB Drop also - how much is this?

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    BB/ 10.5" appox. Fat front

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    Don't suppose anyone wants to sell me a 2nd hand diamond frame? (ad in 'wanted')

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    Not me, but if you decide to import one to the Old World, let me know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clink View Post
    Don't suppose anyone wants to sell me a 2nd hand diamond frame? (ad in 'wanted')
    They're only $750 new aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    They're only $750 new aren't they?
    Yep - plus shipping, duty etc and new front wheel (135mm hub) etc. All adds up. Plus worried about sizing. Getting a test ride in UK near impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clink View Post
    Yep - plus shipping, duty etc and new front wheel (135mm hub) etc. All adds up. Plus worried about sizing. Getting a test ride in UK near impossible.
    You could find a Spaceframe to try, which is similar enough to get a size feel...?

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    that is 1.5'' to much fot a 15.5'' frame.
    Probably the smallest 29-er rider in the Dutch Mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HetTuig View Post
    that is 1.5'' to much fot a 15.5'' frame.
    if it were a conventional geometry, perhaps. The Jones rotates you back around the BB, so the seat angle is slacker and the front is higher. It works, I like a low front end but aside from re-adjusting my cornering technique (not that I had a lot to start with!) It felt fine very quickly.

    You could flip the stem too.

    Also, a correctly tilted H-bar (or loop bar to a lesser extent) puts the main grip section about 1" lower than the stem clamp, effectively reducing the height gain of the fork's top clamp.

    I keep saying it, but forget individual numbers when weighing up a Jones. It's hard to do I know, I'm as big a numbers-geek as anyone, but studying then test-riding this bike was a learning experience.

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    One can also add spacers above or below the headset/truss fork for varying HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjedoaks View Post
    BB/ 10.5" appox. Fat front
    Huh?
    BB drop must be around 2" - 3".
    You can see it on the attached image...
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    He measued BB height (not drop) for you.

    Still don't see how a front can be "not tall enough"????

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    Okay 14 5/8/ floor to center of skewer. So, roughly 4 " drop

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    Tai (Ti) Jones

    Just got mine this week and finished the build last night. Maiden voyage tomorrow.
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    Love to know your first impressions lightning boy. I get mine next week.

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    Tai (Ti) Jones

    Octavius,

    The ride was exactly what I was expecting since I got to ride one back in Nov. 2010 with JJ when I went to visit my family in Medford, OR.
    I sold all my bikes to get this. I would never have bought one had I not ridden one. I got to do 3 hours of riding, swapping between the ti/truss and the diamond/unicrown.
    I was going to get the diamond/unicrown but my wife said that I would be thinking Ti the whole time I was riding it so I ponyed-up for the ti.

    I can only say that it rode as I remembered it. Precise is the first word that comes to mind, the steering is hands down the best I've had. The bike is also comfortable, not like the SC Heckler I had with a Maverick DUC32, but I feel that the suspension of my previous bike was dulling my sense of the trail. The Ardent 2.4s take the sting out of the rocks around here in N. AZ. I'm running 20 psi and will experiment with lower psi. I'm contemplating the Fat front but not sure yet since the bike rides so well with the 2.4s.

    My main reason to going with this bike, (I looked at Black Sheep, Salsa Ti Fargo, Lynskey and Fatback) was that it lacked suspension correction, the use of frame design to achieve some compliance, has a wheelbase similar to my previous 26" wheeled bikes. I was also sick of overhauling the Maverick on it's recommended schedule which meant every 4-5 weeks of riding. With limited time to ride (having little ones) I rather ride than work on my bike.

    My first ride on my own Jones left me with a grin from ear to ear! This has to be the best bike I've owned so far and the first 29er. I've had other ti bikes (Titus,Voodoo) but this one rides way better. The craftsmanship is excellent.

    I think that anyone that is contemplating a Jones will not be disappointed.

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    thanks lightning boy, i cant ask for more than that as an appetiser.

    this bike will be my first ti bike and 29er. never ridden a jones before (and never seen one in scotland although i know of other one) frameset arrives today or tomorrow, so first ride later this week...

    very very excited.

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    It took a healthy dose of whiskey to get me to sleep last week waiting for my Jones. I paid for three day air mail to shorten the torture. But all the hype is so true. I've had some nice bikes, but this Jones is pure genius.

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    Interesting setup. How is the Fat working out?

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    Since this thread still lives:

    I'll go on record saying I still really like the bike. It is my go to rig for >50% of rides and the only rigid bike I ride off road.

    I rode my KM commuter on road today for the first time in a while, and it felt all flexy and flimsy in comparison.

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    Sweet bikes, I really wish I could afford one...

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    just got mine, totally amazing, anyone thats curious needs to have a spin on one.

    its is most comfortable, agile, confidence inspiring bike I've ever ridden. light and goes like a rocket.

    looks crazy, looks big but feels small, so much is different to the bike it replaces - my carbon 26" stumpjumper ht.

    cant do my first proper ride for a few days but cannot wait to hit the hills...

    pix to follow.

    doing lots of grinning and brake squeezing.

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    And lots of staring and tyre kicking

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    You finally received the frame

    Quote Originally Posted by octavius View Post
    just got mine, totally amazing, anyone thats curious needs to have a spin on one.

    its is most comfortable, agile, confidence inspiring bike I've ever ridden. light and goes like a rocket.

    looks crazy, looks big but feels small, so much is different to the bike it replaces - my carbon 26" stumpjumper ht.

    cant do my first proper ride for a few days but cannot wait to hit the hills...

    pix to follow.

    doing lots of grinning and brake squeezing.
    John, have fun with it

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