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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmaag View Post
    This tire is bigger but it can't be more than an inch taller than a standard 29er.
    How much you wanna bet?



    Now all we need is a suspension fork!
    This rim/tire combo *barely* fits a few existing sus forks. Barely.

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    Cool! Then it will be excellent as a fatbike tire alternative for dirt riding!

    I was thinking about a suspension fork like the German Answer fatbike fork.

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    Wikipedia is Wrong!

    When I ride too hard after a big meal, I get Krampus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmaag View Post
    I run a carver carbon fork on my Mukluk. It's basically the same size as the Salsa enabler. There is lots of room with a standard 29er rim and a 2.4 tire (about 2.5 inches to the side of the crown). This tire is bigger but it can't be more than an inch taller than a standard 29er.

    Now all we need is a suspension fork!
    Whatever the tallest rear tire you've run, consider that the difference with Knard's 30.5" need to be halved for loss of clearance. I bet lateral clearance will be fine, vertical might be a bit of a squeeze. Suppose the tallest you've run is ONLY 29.00". Tape a 0.75" block to it and see how it goes round.

    A thing that sortof disappoints me in my mix-matching dreams, is that I don't think I'll get this to work with V-brakes. I'd buy 3.0" tire / 50mm fork compatible V's+Levers if they existed. Maybe in the Fat Bike forum someone runs a home made solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki View Post
    A thing that sortof disappoints me in my mix-matching dreams, is that I don't think I'll get this to work with V-brakes. I'd buy 3.0" tire / 50mm fork compatible V's+Levers if they existed.
    My guess is it's better for your health if that dream does not come true. The stopping distance might be a little more than you dreamed of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki View Post
    A thing that sortof disappoints me in my mix-matching dreams, is that I don't think I'll get this to work with V-brakes. I'd buy 3.0" tire / 50mm fork compatible V's+Levers if they existed. Maybe in the Fat Bike forum someone runs a home made solution.
    I've used a Tektro 857AL (110mm arms) with a 26" 47mm rim (on a unicycle) and there is clearance for a Duro 26x3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupboy View Post
    I'm just happy that the tyre will fit in my Salsa CroMoto Grande fork.
    Have you confirmed this????


    Mikesee- can you tell us if it fits in a Salsa CroMoto Grande Fork??
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    Quote Originally Posted by david.p View Post
    I've used a Tektro 857AL (110mm arms) with a 26" 47mm rim (on a unicycle) and there is clearance for a Duro 26x3.
    That's very interesting, thanks! The Knard doesn't look very tall for a true 3.0.
    Would canti post spacing not be an issue?

    And Jeroen, you know me well enough to understand that I would even skip a front brake from a build I would think I go that minimalistic. Stopping distance is irrelevant with unlimited grip.
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    I read Knard as canard:

    a : a false or unfounded report or story; especially : a fabricated report b : a groundless rumor or belief

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    Surly

    If you are listening, and I read in another thread that you are. Produce twice as many tires as you planned to in the first run. For if they fit in the front of a rigid fork, many are going to want one, just because.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhc View Post
    Surly

    If you are listening, and I read in another thread that you are. Produce twice as many tires as you planned to in the first run. For if they fit in the front of a rigid fork, many are going to want one, just because.
    Me too! Just because. I want two. And a Krampus.

    You surely need an old bike wrench as a test pilot. I am available!

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    Will the Kanard fit a Carver O'Beast FatBike fork?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki View Post
    Whatever the tallest rear tire you've run, consider that the difference with Knard's 30.5" need to be halved for loss of clearance. I bet lateral clearance will be fine, vertical might be a bit of a squeeze. Suppose the tallest you've run is ONLY 29.00". Tape a 0.75" block to it and see how it goes round.

    A thing that sortof disappoints me in my mix-matching dreams, is that I don't think I'll get this to work with V-brakes. I'd buy 3.0" tire / 50mm fork compatible V's+Levers if they existed. Maybe in the Fat Bike forum someone runs a home made solution.
    I uploaded a picture of the Carver O'Beast fork for FatBike with a 2.3X29er tire. Sure looks like the Kanard should fit.
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    Yeah, but is the 29er yoke for the BOB Yak trailer big enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhc View Post
    Surly

    If you are listening, and I read in another thread that you are. Produce twice as many tires as you planned to in the first run. For if they fit in the front of a rigid fork, many are going to want one, just because.

    me too!
    dont have the money at the moment for a complete build..but I guess I surely would like to try the wheel /tire combo on my rigid fork..

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    alright mikesee, since you seem to be chilling on this thread more'n the other.
    in terms of traction, I'm assuming this compare smore favourably iwth hudu's than nate's?
    I've still got gazzis, so not in a rush to lose traction for weight. (although it WOULD be luvverly!) which is why I was originally waiting for the nates to get more widely available before i got a fatbike.
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    Krampus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    When I ride too hard after a big meal, I get Krampus.
    Dang near Killedus.

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    I love the idea of big volume 29er tyres. 2.3 gatos are monsters (for me) and great for mud and wider on my p35s than 2.4 ardents. My jones has bags of clearance up front for more and I'm game for bigger. Starting to think about a fat front but I think this sounds much better. I'll wait and see if they would fit/work on the rims - too narrow? Interesting chat above regarding geo changes/tyre height.

    Ultimately I reckon the Knards might not be absolutely right for me tread wise but I love the overall size being 'birthed'.

    Think surly are a very interesting bike company, very creative. I won't be buying a Krampus but I think it looks like a great bike, looked at it a lot . I look forward to hearing the ride reports.

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    Mr. Jones, meet Mr. Knard and Mr. Rabbit Hole. Gentlemen, we'll be spending a lot of time together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhc View Post
    Surly

    If you are listening, and I read in another thread that you are. Produce twice as many tires as you planned to in the first run. For if they fit in the front of a rigid fork, many are going to want one, just because.
    Me too, just because !

    Will (does) it fit a KM front fork ? Please Surly say yes !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    Mikesee- can you tell us if it fits in a Salsa CroMoto Grande Fork??
    One of those has never been within a country mile of my shop nor my bikes, so I have no clear idea.

    But I'd guess yes. Especially going forward--we all know Salsa will hop onto Surly's bandwagon and capitalize any way they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki View Post
    That's very interesting, thanks! The Knard doesn't look very tall for a true 3.0.
    Would canti post spacing not be an issue?
    I don't have a 29er fork with cantis to compare but the brake posts on my unicycle frame are 94mm c-c.

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    First ride: Surly's new Krampus, a '29 plus' with 3-inch tires | Dirt Rag Magazine

    this thing just looks what the honey badger would ride
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