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    I really like my Fat front Jones. I love the idea of this, but wouldn't want to go back to 100mm front spacing. I wonder how the 3" 29er tire would compare to the 3.8" 26er tire... Maybe I get these rims build onto 135mm front hub and give it a go.

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    man another bike from surly to get me all hot and bothered!
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    Bike looks fantastic. Just wondering what frame, fork and wheelset will weigh...
    Also,how much and availability?

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    so...
    would these tyres work on p-35s?
    a skinny fat front anyone?

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    Actually, that tire width might be nice on a 26er

    I'm not quite sure if it would fit in my current 26er frame that has pretty ample clearance for "normal" tires. Probably not.

    ... or a 26er size version of the wheels and tires might be great for a frame dimensioned for fat 650b

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    Any leaks on the geometry? The ST seems to be pretty slack, which I personally love!

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    I will be putting these rims on my Jones - and a Knard on the front!!! - this is what I've been waiting for - it will be fatter AND lighter than my Gordo/WW setup. I wonder how low you can run them? 15psi or less?

    Well done Surly. I can't bloody wait

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    I'm slow, and confused.

    This is a 29er with clearance for new "fat" 29er tire setups, correct?

    I wonder if a Knard would fit in a niner cf fork? edit- looks like I have a max of 3-3/8" clearance, so it'd be tight but doable.
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    In a lineup that includes an Ogre and a Troll, a Krampus makes perfect sense. My only question is does this now belong in a new 29er+/semi-fat sub-forum? I love Surly's stuff, I'm only sad all I own is one of their forks.
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    While it's a very cool bike, especially if you're looking for one, I'm more interested in the tyre. Would put it on my KM to help raise the front and BB a bit and slack out the HA a tad and slow the steering down. This would probably pair nicely with a WTB WW 2.55" outback This is the only thing I've wanted to do to my KM (slack the front) and was thinking of purchasing a 490-500mm fork to do it, but this would be more funner and add more cush
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob1035 View Post
    I'm slow, and confused.

    This is a 29er with clearance for new "fat" 29er tire setups, correct?

    I wonder if a Knard would fit in a niner cf fork? edit- looks like I have a max of 3-3/8" clearance, so it'd be tight but doable.
    I'm lost as well.

    What size rims are normal fat bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tl1 View Post
    Saint Nicholas' evil companion that eats bad children. I'm liking this new Surly bike more and more.
    That's a take off on Schwartze Pete and Saint Nicolas in the Netherlands.
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    'Normal' fat bikes are 26" rims. This is a full on 700c rimmed bike, placing it in the 29" realm. You might be lucky if these fit in your fat bike, as these appear quite tall. certainly won't fit in any normal suspension forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropspace View Post
    that pic should be the headtube badge
    If I can get one of these bikes, I will make that happen. Great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    'Normal' fat bikes are 26" rims. This is a full on 700c rimmed bike, placing it in the 29" realm. You might be lucky if these fit in your fat bike, as these appear quite tall. certainly won't fit in any normal suspension forks.
    I made some measurements from pictures, the diameter of the 3" wide tire is 765mm, about 35mm more than a 29x2.1 tire. I would be very interested to get an actual width measurement of the tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    I wonder if this rim/tire combo will fit in some existing rigid 29er forks!!!
    It should be no problem for a Karate Monkey fork - 90 mm width should be enough for a 3" tire

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    Kamp as Krampus

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
    I made some measurements from pictures, the diameter of the 3" wide tire is 765mm, about 35mm more than a 29x2.1 tire. I would be very interested to get an actual width measurement of the tire.

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    I'm hoping Krampus arrives before the Dec. 6 date of St. Nicholas day. I'd like to buy and ride one before it gets that cold.

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    That's a take off on Schwartze Pete and Saint Nicolas in the Netherlands.

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    I am absolutely in love with this new bike and may just pull the trigger on one. I really wish Surly came out with a 650B monster, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    'Normal' fat bikes are 26" rims. This is a full on 700c rimmed bike, placing it in the 29" realm. You might be lucky if these fit in your fat bike, as these appear quite tall. certainly won't fit in any normal suspension forks.
    Anyone know how much taller than a 29er w/2.4 tire would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    Anyone know how much taller than a 29er w/2.4 tire would be?
    Diameter should rise up to around 30 mm - it will rise the front about 15 mm and will be also 15 mm in the fork.

    This makes it very interesting as a front tire for a Karate Monkey. Rising the front should make the steering angle about one degree slacker so it would run a little more stable on decents.

    Because also the seat tube is a little more slacker I would use a seatpost without setback an the body centre is moved to the previous position for still good climbing.

    BTW: On the Krampus pics there is much room between the tire and the seatpost - so it must have very long chainstays and should not have this quick steering like a Karate Monkey.

    We will see, when the frame geometry charts are published...

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