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    Steel 29er recommend

    I just sold my first full suspension bike. I had my specialized camber for about 6 months and rode it a lot. But I've been riding for over 25 years (44 y/o) and I just didn't like riding the tank and I'm excited to go back to hardtail. After having aluminum, then carbon, then full suspension, I want to go back to a real bike and build a really nice steel bike. So your opinions are welcomed.

    Steel bike recommendations?

    Non-custom frames that I'm looking at:
    Salsa El Mariachi ~$2000 complete
    Ritchey P-29 (really like this one) ~$900 frame
    Niner ROS (more aggressive geometry - not sure about that) ~$900 frame

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    Niner MCR or SIR9
    The updated Surly Karate Monkey looks really nice too.
    The Vassago VerHauen is another one to add to the list

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    Niner doesn't make the MCR any longer, at least according to their current website. I guess I didn't realize the SIR9 could also be geared but after checking it out, it can be either ss or geared. Excellent option.

    I'll check the others out too. Thanks!

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    Lots of steel bikes out there and yes Steel is REAL!
    Also look at the On-One Inbred.
    If you can find one look for the Bianchi SOK.
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    There's also the Jamis Dragon and the Kona Honzo. If you were interested in aggressive AM hardtails like the Niner ROS9 or Honzo, there is also the Canfield Nimble 9. I have a Honzo and a SIR9 myself. I prefer the SIR9 for normal XC trails, especially if they are super twisty, which is most of the trails I usually ride. But if the trail has lots of big rocks, drops, or jumps, then the Honzo is the way to go.

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    If you can justify the cost of the Ritchey P29 that looks like such a cool frame.
    The Inbred is a great frame as well as the Kona Unit can be built as a geared bike.

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    I love my SPOT!
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    I have ridden an El Mariachi for the past 2 years and I highly recommend it.

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    I have a medium MCR 9 + cane creek 110 + fork for sale if you are interested, PM me.

    I just built up a '14 Nimble 9. Bought the wife a '14 el mariachi. Both are nice but very different from the MCR9 or SIR9

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    I have a 2011 salsa el mariachi. It is a great, neutral handling bike. I tried it against a niner and thought that it handled a bit quicker. It is not the lightest steel bike you will find, but it is nice and pretty inexpensive compared to some.

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    Transition Trans AM.

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    +1 on the El Mar. I have a 2013 and its a great frame for the price.
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    If you are a size large I have just the thing for you.

    Selling my Canfield N9 to go full squish.

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    Size XL. Open for other offers though - Frame or complete bike.

    The more research I do the more I'm starting to like the idea of the AM hardtail geometry like the Niner ROS, Transition Trans AM, and Canfield Nimble. Sounds like it might be the perfect all around bike setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    I love my SPOT!
    Agreed, I have a Spot Honey Badger and it is incredible.
    It is a single speed but they have a geared version too.

    Also been thinking about adding a 1x10 Hard Tail to the quiver and the Kona Honzo is on the top of the charts. Either that or another HB and run an internal geared hub with a belt drive.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    I have ridden an El Mariachi for the past 2 years and I highly recommend it.
    Another vote for the El Mariachi. It's a fantastic, affordable, versatile bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    I have ridden an El Mariachi for the past 2 years and I highly recommend it.
    +1 for El Mariachi!

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    I have an El Mar and I love it 3x9 with a Reba SL. So stable, nimble and FUN when things get fast... When considering upgrades to my bike the two I've considered are the IF Deluxe (I have a Crown Jewel steel road bike... nom nom) and the Ritchey P29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprocket47 View Post
    Niner ROS (more aggressive geometry - not sure about that) ~$900 frame
    I ended up more unsure of EBB design than the modern AM geometry.

    Several or at least a hand full of bikes have that geometry (modern/AM/fun/low/slack/short cs) and best chance of trying it is probably a Kona dealer just because of dealer network size.

    So far that style bike has been more fun and used more than I ever expected, but I'm not on one style rider. It lets me have big wheel advantage XC riding and also go steep, jump, pump track and get 90 deg sideways.

    Friends who own or owned TranAM have loved them the way I do my Honzo. If I had fancier, special or boutique in mind I'd move up the food chain to a Nimble 9 or a Walt Works custom.

    I don't know about your riding but my assessment of this new style is they're optimized for control and handling if a traditional bike's optimized for grunting out a race or traction to the rear wheel. The minor adjustment of weight climbing has been worth what I get in handling and fun.

    Have fun!

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    I'm starting to think about a '14 El Mar. I like the combo of a short rear end but still something reasonably quick up front--I think that would work well for my local trails (twisty, not a lot of downhills) Of course, the KM is similar, but I'm still recovering from the horrors of track ends + discs on my Krampus.

    I tried an AM type bike and really didn't like it for my style of riding. If you can, try to demo this type of geometry before you commit.
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    An El Mariachi with a 120mm fork is a blast to ride fast in the chunk. I ride an XL 2013 El Mariachi Ti and it rips. Salsa is one of those brands where it almost makes more sense to build from a frame, as the complete parts specs are a little lacking for price. The steel rides a little softer than the Ti frame, but by no means is it a wet noodle. I really like the alternator drop outs, as I go back and forth between SS and Geared. They are much nicer than sliders. If you are looking for a similar thing but only intend to run it geared, I think the new Karate Monkey frame from Surly has a new modular drop out system that will allow you to run a thru axle or vertical drop outs.
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    if you dont get the ROS 9 (or similar), you're gonna make a big mistake
    short rear , slack front is where it is at

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    I've tried a few and my Blackbuck turns better (FOR ME) than the others. The primary liability of this frame is that it must be SS or 1X. Watch out for some of the "AM-type" steel frames (I weighed a popular one and it was 7+#).

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    Chrome Nimble 9

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    Loved my nimble 9

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