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    Specialized Crave Pro vs. Stumpjumper Comp.

    Was looking at these 2 at a lbs recently. No test rides or anything just looking. Same price at $2000 but the components are quite different and geometry appears different as well. I mainly ride tight twisty single track made up of hard pack with some roots, gravel, sand and occasional ruts. Im not a racer though its not out of the question and I very rarely leave the ground. Im 6 ft with a 30" inseam and have been told I could ride either a medium or a large "depending" (whatever that means). I would appreciate any input on which one I should be leaning towards.

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    I ride the same type of terrain you do and just ordered the stumpjumper comp. For me the component mix is more appealing on the stumpjumper. The frame is the M5 aluminum they used to use for their S-Works bikes, and it comes with through axles instead of the standard QR axles.

    As for what to steer you towards, it would be a toss up IMO. The Stumpy looks to be made more for racing where the Crave is more for trail riding.

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    While theyre both XC bikes, the crave is a little more trail oriented. Looks better suited to a 120mm if you ever decide you want that. As far as components, its a toss up. Do you like fox or RS? Sram or Shimano? Based on your description of "twisty singletrack", I'd go crave, as it will offer more playful handling

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    Ive only had experience with Rockshox and Shimano with a brief ride on a friends bike with sram components. Im not opposed to a change as Im going from 26 to 29 inch wheels anyway so why stop there? For now Im patiently waiting for some decent weather to do some test rides. Would love to hear anyone's experience with either of these bikes good, bad, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLx6 View Post
    I ride the same type of terrain you do and just ordered the stumpjumper comp. For me the component mix is more appealing on the stumpjumper. The frame is the M5 aluminum they used to use for their S-Works bikes, and it comes with through axles instead of the standard QR axles.

    As for what to steer you towards, it would be a toss up IMO. The Stumpy looks to be made more for racing where the Crave is more for trail riding.
    Just curious, What color did you get? Im digging the green over the black.

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    I went with the black, understated and simple.

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    The Crave looks more like something I would buy. I prefer the fork on the Stumpy, but the FOX fork is ok, and the Shimano brakes and drivetrain are better than the SRAM/ Formula on the Stumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    The Crave looks more like something I would buy. I prefer the fork on the Stumpy, but the FOX fork is ok, and the Shimano brakes and drivetrain are better than the SRAM/ Formula on the Stumpy.
    Id prefer the Reba over the Fox also but the 100mm, the Shimano drive train and brakes on the Crave kinda sells it for me. Im looking forward to some test rides. What do you mean when you say the Fox is "ok"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyclesnIPAs View Post
    Id prefer the Reba over the Fox also but the 100mm, the Shimano drive train and brakes on the Crave kinda sells it for me. Im looking forward to some test rides. What do you mean when you say the Fox is "ok"?
    The FOX is the Evo fork, cheaper than the Kashima coated good fork.

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    Ah understood. Same internals though?

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    No its not. The Evolution fork has the open bath. Real basic fork.

    Factory has the FiT cartridge and trail adjust.

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    Have you considered the Camber ? It's a weapon !
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnicosia View Post
    Have you considered the Camber ? It's a weapon !
    The Camber is sweet but im not really looking for a fs bike. If I was, Id prob go with an Anthem, Superfly FS or Scalpel but Im a hardtail junkie at heart. Speaking of Superfly's Im also liking the Superfly 6 hardtail. Its cheaper than both of the Specialized yet has very similar components.

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    have you looked at the trek stache?

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    Stache is my recommendation.

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    Unfortunately the Stache isnt an option cuz the Stache 8 is way over my budget and Im not digging the Recon silver on the 7. Also I really dont wanna go over 100mm so the 120mm is a little much. Im really liking the Superfly 6 though.

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    Got to test ride a Stumpjumper Comp over the weekend and I hate to say I wasnt too impressed. The cockpit felt very awkward in that I felt too leaned forward yet cramped at the same time also I came to the realization that I pretty much hate SRAM shifters. Unfortunately they didnt have the Crave in my size (19") so that ones still up in the air. Its a shame cuz the shop owner offered me a great deal on the stumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyclesnIPAs View Post
    The cockpit felt very awkward in that I felt too leaned forward yet cramped at the same time also I came to the realization that I pretty much hate SRAM shifters.
    Did you try to flip the stem to positive? I ran mine negative for a while and, while it looks neat and all, I ended up liking the bike with a low-rise bar and a 5deg rise 80mm stem.... I am on a Med, and 5'11" and have a Thomson setback post and feels pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiroshima View Post
    Did you try to flip the stem to positive? I ran mine negative for a while and, while it looks neat and all, I ended up liking the bike with a low-rise bar and a 5deg rise 80mm stem.... I am on a Med, and 5'11" and have a Thomson setback post and feels pretty good.
    I did not. I didnt want to bother the shop owner with changing up the cockpit just for a test ride. If I was absolutely interested in the bike than I probably would have. Unfortunately it was the components that didnt help much either. Really dislike those SRAM shifters.

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    if it helps any, i am going for a 2015 crave pro. from what i understood, i am able to upgrade the fork on it to have a fit cartridge versus the open bath style. correct me if i am wrong??

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    Been riding since 1987; started with a 36 pound Specialized Rockhopper with a classic "Bio-Pace" drivetrain. Picked up a 1990 DB Ascent and upgraded to all XT, that was a sweet ride, in fact still have it as my "beater bike". Later in the 90's picked up a Klein Attitude, Klein Fervor and a Klein Mantra Comp. Had great fun riding and upgrading parts as my budget allowed. Over the years, biked quite a bit throughout the San Francisco Bay area and South Lake Tahoe. Became more of a casual rider by the mid 2000's. I have especially enjoyed my Klein's. Gave the Attitude to my oldest son, kept the Mantra and the Fervor became my main ride due to the light weight and the mods added over the last 20 years. With retirement coming up I have decided to go back to riding more frequently. Truthfully I have not kept up (my subscriptions to MBA expired years ago) on MB tech and only just began keeping up with the latest trends and have been somewhat surprised by all of the evolutionary changes in MTB since the 90's and even 2000's: 29 inch wheels, 650b, wide handle bars, new geometries, tubeless, improved disc brakes, carbon fiber everywhere....of course tons of debate on whether or not MTB has become nothing more than a "niche hobby" and Road Biking now rules the day. Fine with me, less crowded on the trails! Just kidding. But in that light, I ended up buying a 2015 Specialized Crave Pro. Klein's of course are no longer made and I did not want to go with Trek. I did look at the Santa Cruz Highball but decided on the Crave Pro. I liked the Stumpy and the 'Dales, but ultimately felt the best bang for the buck would be the Crave Pro. I am 5'7, 165 lbs and decided on the small frame. The net result is a 25-26 pound bike, which is more than my 22lb Fervor, which is also fine with me. I do like the Carve's less stretched out trail geometry (better for older backs). Due to heavy rains, I have not had an opportunity for a trail ride, so I look forward to posting my off-road take on the bike. I HAVE ridden round the paved streets in our neighborhood (we live up in the Bay Area hills) and was impressed by the climbing and speed on the flats. Not quite the rockets my Klein's were, but up to speed the Carve can move! Cornering is not as tight as I thought it would be, but that could because of my inexperience with the 29 inch wheels and the Crave's geometry. Will need more actual on trail good old NorCal fire road practice. Would enjoy hearing from fellow Crave/Carve riders: riding experience, handling tips, and mods you can recommend. It feels good to begin riding more extensively on the trails again and even to start "wrenching" my rides.

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    I also just bought a 2015 Crave Pro, unfortunately I can't pick it up until tomorrow. I was thinking a putting a set of panaracer rampages on it for the added late winter/spring traction, I know it will be a little slower, but should be able to climb anywhere and soften the ride some.

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    I'm a noob on the site, just found it and joined. I'm fairly new the the mtb world, starting riding last summer and now am looking to buy a bike this spring. Was looking at a rockhopper but after looking and researching more I think a Crave is what I'll end up with, looking at the base 29er, fits my budget and I think it will be a good start. Anybody else have this model?

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    I too was looking at the rockhopper, the evo model with slacker headtube and seat tube angles. After research I decided to get the crave pro with better shocks and brakes would fit my riding style. Also, comparing the Crave to other manufacturers, the crave was better spec'ed for the price. If you can swing it, I would upgrade to the Crave Comp so that you get shimano brakes and the better shock. From a local bike shop you should be able to get $200-300 off of MSRP. Good luck

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    Rains finally subsided. Took new 29'er Crave Pro out for its maiden ride. One of my fave loops in the SF Bay Area: fast fire roads, some steep climbs, some technical terrain, tight blind fast corners, etc. Not too much mud. Holy Jeebus! Having ridden my fine Klein Mantra Comp and Fervor for the past 20+ years, I was pretty biased. I figured I would not find anything as sweet as my old now "vintage" rides. I was shocked. I am now older but fit and there are sections which I always remember being challenging on my 26inch dualie and hard tail. I cleaned steep sections with what almost seemed like 3/4 effort. Fast sweeping corners were handled with a little alternating front/rear brake action, downhill sections were almost too fast, given the improved lack of rolling resistance, ruts and even large "thunk" trail holes were rolled through as if they were not even there. Didn't even have to bunny hop. Short steep climbs were handled with the big ring and mid #7 rear ring; the thing I was pleasantly surprised by was how this big bike responded to my body language and arm movement. It actually seemed more lively than my 26'ers. The Crave Pro did exactly what I wanted it to do whenever I needed it: dig in the rear wheel, weight the front, turn in with rear wheel bias, I felt like my bike handling skills had actually improved. This didn't seem to make any sense to me given the bigger wheels. Obviously Specialized and other frame designers figured out the geometry necessary to make 29'ers feel "just like a 26'er" but a 26'er on steroids. Honestly, all of the hype around these bikes seemed like hype to me. I still bought a new 29'er just because the old Kleins are getting up there in age and I do worry about frame fatigue, both have been in some fairly good trail crashes over the years. The time seemed right to purchase a new bike. Given the quality of the mixed group , the wonderful M4 frame, geometry (slightly more upright and less "racer" than my all out Kleins), good lbs service and great price, the 2015 Crave Pro was the best bang for the buck in alum. "metal matrix" frames. At any rate, I can't wait to take the Crave out again. Maybe this was all just me feeling excited about riding a new bike, but I don't think so. These 29'ers are the real deal. It's true, not sure if I could ever go back to a 26'er, and I love my old bikes, too. Sigh. Oh, one more thing, the 2015 Crave Pro only comes in "dirty white" or whatever its called. Beautiful, BUT I had to wipe it down when I got back, grease, dirt, and mud just shows up way too easy. I would definitely reccommend this bike or any similar 29'er. Whew.

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    Hi

    I have the Crave expert, but updated it with XTR shifters and detailers. It also has Roval Control wheel set on, and a carbon handlebar. Brakes are also upgraded to Magura MT 6's.

    In the region I live in most of the trails are dry and dusty with rocky sections. Crave is my training bike and it runs very well. Very fast on the single track with a more comfortable riding position. Would recommend the Crave as it is very responsive and very comfortable.

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    I just had my first ride on my 2015 Crave Pro, it climbs really nice, pedals efficiently, handles nimbly, and the downhill was ok BUT I felt exposed to flipping over the handle bars in the descents. Maybe this is because I am used to riding a Specialized Enduro with much slacker angles. I think I can fix the issue with a longer stem or low-rise handle bars. Also I put some panaracer rampage tires on it (2.35) after my ride to up the traction and soften the ride a little, we'll see next ride.

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    If you feel like you're going to go over the bar. Why would you go with a longer stem? Won't that make it worse?

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    Specialized Crave Pro vs. Stumpjumper Comp.-img_0227.jpg

    I got this baby a few months ago. She's a ton of fun. I took her on rides that I had never thought about doing before her. I know what everyone is saying about the stretched out feel. I've thought about a shorter stem and riser bars. Still a great bike though. Very fast and agile.

    But, I did end up getting fat this winter.Specialized Crave Pro vs. Stumpjumper Comp.-img_1026.jpg And The Mayor called me out.

    The Comp is in the basement whilst I ride the snow with The Mayor. Which climbs like a goat on steroids and has a very different riding position than the Comp. Much more upright. I really can't wait for the snow to clear and to ride the Comp again though. I really love it.

    Didn't get a chance to try the Crave before I got it so I can't compare those two. I might take one out for a test ride in the spring though.

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    [QUOTE=RS VR6;11766214]If you feel like you're going to go over the bar. Why would you go with a longer stem? Won't that make it worse?


    I feel too cramped and my arms aren't in front of me enough to stabilize myself forward. If I am wrong I am only out 30 bucks for a EA70 stem.

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    Spent another Friday and Saturday out on the trail with the 2015 Crave Pro. I have put over 100 trail miles on it so far. So far I continue to be impressed. What is blowing me away is that my energy expenditure for the same 34 mile loop seems to be much less. I mean I'm older and I swear I am less tired than I was when I was younger, like 20 years ago. Keep in mind, I probably was riding harder and going "all out" with my old riding group. BUT, all of the studies around 29'er efficiency in regards to rider output and ground gained vs a 26'er and 650B, in my opinion, seems to be true. For the same amount of energy, I seem to go further and faster with less overall fatigue. The Crave continues to be a great climber, a fast descender, and decent cornering bike once you get used to the line you should be taking given the bigger wheels. The bike is surprisingly very stable and not at all frenetic, both at speed and at slow technical speed. Having said that, the tires do deflect a little when hitting stuff off camber, BUT the bike recovers quickly and with no surprises due, again, I think to the size of the contact patch and weight distribution. Spesh has designed an almost "dumb proof" bike which excels at rapid XC trail riding. As a pure technical riding bike and/or so-called "all mountain": swap out the flats for risers, swap the shock and stem and I think this Crave will do anything. Good deal at my lbs for $1800. Not cheap but definitely accessible compared to those 5-10+K carbon jobs out there. This has been fun!

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    Just weighed my small 2015 Crave Pro with Shimano clip less 520's, Answer Carbon bar, Thompson Elite seatpost: 24.5 pounds. About the same as my 1994 Klein Fervor. Not bad.

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    Just posted my own thread before I found this one. I'm in the same predicament. .crave or stumpy. for me it is crave expert or stumpy comp ,as I like the reba over the fox evo.

    I have ridden both and love both. Problem is I can only rode in parking Lots. So no trail experience with either.
    My riding is casual. Go out with a few buddies 4 times a week,no racing. Georgia trails. Twisty hardpack slightly technical xc trail stuff.
    Looking for advice from owners of both. Biggest differences besides my vs m5 alum are:

    stumpy has thru axle
    sram x9 rd
    magura brakes

    Crave has
    qr axle
    shimano xt rd
    shimano m506 brakes

    Is the stumpy too xc to enjoy all day epics? Will it be uncomfortable and too racy to ride for long? Will the longer chainstay and slightly steeper ht on the crave be anissue?
    help me out here... headed back tomorow to buy something.

    Sorry for double posting.

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    The Stumpy also has shorter 430mm chainstays compared to the 442mm on the Crave. The Stumpy's handling will be a bit more responsive compared to the the Crave. The flip side of that...the Crave will be a bit more stable blasting wide open trail.

    The stack of the Stumpy is about 10mm's shorter and the reach is 2mm longer...but that is probably due to the 90mm fork compared to the 100mm on the Crave.

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    Not having ridden a recent stumpy I find my Carve (now called Crave) is fine for several hours trail riding. This includes single track, fire roads and more technical trails. The stumpy I guess would be lighter, stiffer, more aggressive and less forgiving. But in the end choose the bike that makes you want to get out and ride ride as they will not be that far apart.

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    There won't be much of a difference in riding position from the Stumpy to the Crave. The difference will come from the stems. The Crave comes with a 70mm and the SJ a 90mm.

    The difference in weight isn't that much. To me what makes the SJ more desirable now, is that it comes with a 142 rear end. It'll open up more options for wheels in the future.

    I've got a 2013 Pro...and it rides real darn well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    There won't be much of a difference in riding position from the Stumpy to the Crave. The difference will come from the stems. The Crave comes with a 70mm and the SJ a 90mm.

    The difference in weight isn't that much. To me what makes the SJ more desirable now, is that it comes with a 142 rear end. It'll open up more options for wheels in the future.

    I've got a 2013 Pro...and it rides real darn well.
    Maybe this is good for me. I'm usually right in between med and large...but I'm all torso. Larges always give me no good stand over,but stretch me out too far. Mediums are a tad too tight.

    Is the fork able to be eaisily modded on the sj to be 100mm instead of 90? I find the thru axle more attractive than the qr of the crave.

    The biggest issue is I could only test a large sj at the shop. The med crave they have fit great. So if I went with the sj I'd have to order it without riding.

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    Annother question... the fork for the crave expert says 80/100 mm size specific. Anyone know what size the med frame comes with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovy85 View Post
    Just posted my own thread before I found this one. I'm in the same predicament. .crave or stumpy. for me it is crave expert or stumpy comp ,as I like the reba over the fox evo.

    I have ridden both and love both. Problem is I can only rode in parking Lots. So no trail experience with either.
    My riding is casual. Go out with a few buddies 4 times a week,no racing. Georgia trails. Twisty hardpack slightly technical xc trail stuff.
    Looking for advice from owners of both. Biggest differences besides my vs m5 alum are:

    stumpy has thru axle
    sram x9 rd
    magura brakes

    Crave has
    qr axle
    shimano xt rd
    shimano m506 brakes

    Is the stumpy too xc to enjoy all day epics? Will it be uncomfortable and too racy to ride for long? Will the longer chainstay and slightly steeper ht on the crave be anissue?
    help me out here... headed back tomorow to buy something.

    Sorry for double posting.
    You should probably go for the Crave. Even though it doesn't have Thru Axles it has better brakes, and a longer travel fork, both good things for long trail rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovy85 View Post
    Annother question... the fork for the crave expert says 80/100 mm size specific. Anyone know what size the med frame comes with?
    Medium and up will come with the 100mm fork.

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    im ordering a stumpy comp ht tomorrow, can say i am super excited for it to come in, should be in buy wedensday or thursday next week!!!! who has one and what is your opinion on it!?
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