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    Soma Juice build

    After months of gathering parts, I should have everything else in next week to build up this frame. It'll be a 1X9 setup. I'll post pics when it's done. Parts include:

    Manitou Tower Pro fork 80mm
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    Sounds sweet

    Def post up a finished pic. Here's a crappy pic of mine from a while back. I love it.
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    SS-Dad- Very nice. Glad you like it. If I like it enough, I just may have to get a second for a single speed setup. I've got a 3 day Fruita trip coming up in a few weeks so that'll be the real test for the bike.

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    I really like this color!

    one of the last frame with canti mounts...

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    Got to ride this yesterday and it's awesome. A better ride than my old SJ 29er Comp but then again a different parts build. Amazing climber and easy to throw around.

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    I was trying to decide between karate monkey or juice, after seeing yours I think I'll go for the juice.
    I want to go rigid since I'll won't be riding very technical trails.
    Nice kit you used to build it up.

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    nice! that's a great looking build.
    love my juice. i've now got her down to sub-20 lbs... blast to ride.
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    nice build

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    nice looking bike

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    I wouldn't be riding that bike, man.
    Just crack one open, sit back and stare.

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    Looks awesome! Nice work... Have a soft spot for Soma's...
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    I've it rode in Golden a couple of times, 3 days in Fruita, over to Salida and around my area in Summit County on trails that are actually dry so far. Pretty damn happy with it. And one more thing....these wheels can take a beating. I'm 200# and have pushed them pretty hard. This frame with these wheels.....hell yea!

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    Looks great! Sounds great, too! I miss riding the Salida, Bueana Vista area. Monarch is still a fav.

    Awesome job.

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    Nice!!! What are you using up front to keep your chain in place. I'm looking to convert a bike to a 1 x 9?
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    crclawn: I'm using an E13 XCX bottom bracket mount chainguide. It works great.
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    Nice!!

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    Thanks bra!! Happy riding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    nice! that's a great looking build.
    love my juice. i've now got her down to sub-20 lbs... blast to ride.
    Sub-20? Wow! Impressive for a steel frame. I'll have to weigh this one. What frame size do you have? Single speed I assume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajdemo76 View Post
    Sub-20? Wow! Impressive for a steel frame. I'll have to weigh this one. What frame size do you have? Single speed I assume?
    it surprised me too. i think the frame (large - 18") weighs 5.5 lbs.
    yup... single & rigid.
    i'm not a super weight weenie, but i like nice parts.
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    Quick question for you... Do you think this frame is a little too flexy for a single speed? I have ridden a juice geared before and it rode nice and smooth. I am considering a soma juice for my next build (which will be SS) and need to decide between a juice or a Surly Karate Monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad Rider 415 View Post
    Quick question for you... Do you think this frame is a little too flexy for a single speed? I have ridden a juice geared before and it rode nice and smooth. I am considering a soma juice for my next build (which will be SS) and need to decide between a juice or a Surly Karate Monkey.
    I don't think so at all.
    I've ridden a few steel frames (all SS & rigid) and the Juice is BY FAR the best riding frame I've been on.
    KM is a great frame for a lot of things, but for SS XC riding it doesn't hold a candle to the Juice, IMO. To me the KM felt clunky & harsh in comparison.
    *edit*
    woops... i realized after i posted this that the question wasn't meant for me, but now you have my opinion whether you want it or not.
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    It was a question for anyone really because I just need a few opinions about SSing it
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    My experience echoes Melting Feather's, exactly. I too have ridden quite a few steel frames and after trying the Juice, I stopped looking. That said, it works for me and my riding style. I'm not a lightweight, 180 lbs or so and a finesse type rider.

    I had a KM and really liked it. Just a little harsh for me. My .02 cents.

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    I have a ss Juice...

    and it rides very nice w 32x20 set up. I went 34x20 and noticed a lot more frame flex when climbing. I am 6ft 2in and 250 lbs though, so may not be an issue for smaller guys. Its a great, smoothing riding xc frame. Especially for the money.
    Waaaay smoother than the KM which is very harsh for a steel frame. Every magazine reviewer has noted the harsh ride. Only people on this forum that own the KM seem not to notice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobswire View Post
    I was trying to decide between karate monkey or juice, after seeing yours I think I'll go for the juice.
    I want to go rigid since I'll won't be riding very technical trails.
    Nice kit you used to build it up.
    Ended up going for a Karate Monkey because of the tighter geo and slightly lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edouble View Post
    Waaaay smoother than the KM which is very harsh for a steel frame. Every magazine reviewer has noted the harsh ride. Only people on this forum that own the KM seem not to notice it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo View Post
    Hasty Generalization Alert! Sound the Alarms.....Launch the Fleet.
    I've ridden both... and it sounds like edouble has too. The difference is easily discernible. Why don't you take both frames for a spin before you hastily discount the opinions of people who have?
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    The green frame looks sick, nice bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    I've ridden both... and it sounds like edouble has too. The difference is easily discernible. Why don't you take both frames for a spin before you hastily discount the opinions of people who have?
    I've ridden both too. I had the Soma first and then built up the KM. My Soma was the Tange Prestige version (one of the reasons I bought it). It felt blah too me.
    The KM on the other hand had a very similar feel to my Tange Prestige Stumpjumper, and could better handle the tight New England singletrack I typically ride.
    I weigh 135 pounds so it's hard to understand how larger guys feel the KM is harsh unless they use a completely different spec on the tubeset.

    *edit*
    Oh yeah, and I've raced them both too. I've had the most success on the KM of all the frames I've raced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    I've ridden both too. I had the Soma first and then built up the KM. My Soma was the Tange Prestige version (one of the reasons I bought it). It felt blah too me.
    The KM on the other hand had a very similar feel to my Tange Prestige Stumpjumper, and could better handle the tight New England singletrack I typically ride.
    I weigh 135 pounds so it's hard to understand how larger guys feel the KM is harsh unless they use a completely different spec on the tubeset.
    Hey CB, I really , really like my KM ... http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...21888#poststop

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    I've ridden both too. I had the Soma first and then built up the KM. My Soma was the Tange Prestige version (one of the reasons I bought it). It felt blah too me.
    The KM on the other hand had a very similar feel to my Tange Prestige Stumpjumper, and could better handle the tight New England singletrack I typically ride.
    I weigh 135 pounds so it's hard to understand how larger guys feel the KM is harsh unless they use a completely different spec on the tubeset.

    *edit*
    Oh yeah, and I've raced them both too. I've had the most success on the KM of all the frames I've raced.
    Interesting. Different strokes I guess.
    What does racing have to do with it? I won the state ss championship on a Juice this year, so it must be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    What does racing have to do with it?
    Something "clunky & harsh in comparison" wouldn't be very good for racing.

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    I won the state ss championship on a Juice this year, so it must be better.
    Since you threw down the gauntlet, so did I...but cat1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    Something "clunky & harsh in comparison" wouldn't be very good for racing.
    it wouldn't be to me, since I'm the guy that thinks that. Racing or not, I just didn't like the ride.
    It obviously works for you, whether racing or not, I don't understand why you think racing makes a difference in whether you like a bike or not, but it doesn't matter.
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    Since you threw down the gauntlet, so did I...but cat1.
    It was a joke, not throwing down the gauntlet. Nice goin though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    Since you threw down the gauntlet, so did I...but cat1.
    now i remember... aren't you the guy that said "that's so last week" or something when i posted up that i won and was stoked? with a link to your blahg or something?
    now you're trying to one-up me when all you had to do was finish both of the two races in the "series" to win?
    nice goin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    I've ridden both... and it sounds like edouble has too. The difference is easily discernible. Why don't you take both frames for a spin before you hastily discount the opinions of people who have?
    I'm sure it is discernible. I could tell the difference between my Redline Monocog Flight and KM when ridden back to back, but the difference is more than the tubesets. The KM is stiff if you define it that way. Problem is the artificial 'stiff' scale is applied differently by each individual...stiff to a 135lb Cat 1 guy is not stiff to me at 210lbs.


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    Every magazine reviewer has noted the harsh ride. Only people on this forum that own the KM seem not to notice it.
    I don't discount his experience and am not offended if people don't like the KM. It's irrelevant to me and my bike preferences. For the record, I have a 2009 Soma DoubleCross in the garage that I love. I chose it over the Surly CrossCheck for several reasons (irrelevant to the discussion, but relevant to the underlying inference of Surly bias). I chose my 2008 KM over the Juice for several reasons (ETT too short and ST too short, not a dislike for the Juice). Both fit what I wanted in a bike better than the other options.

    I will also say that (I suspect the remarks were in jest) buying a bike doesn't 'make' someone better, training and mindset do. I can walk into my LBS and buy a Trek Madone, but I won't walk out Lance Armstrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo View Post
    I'm sure it is discernible. I could tell the difference between my Redline Monocog Flight and KM when ridden back to back, but the difference is more than the tubesets. The KM is stiff if you define it that way. Problem is the artificial 'stiff' scale is applied differently by each individual...stiff to a 135lb Cat 1 guy is not stiff to me at 210lbs.

    I should have been more 'discerning' in my contextual grab. Hasty generalization referred to the generalized statements below, not his stated opinion:

    I don't discount his experience and am not offended if people don't like the KM. It's irrelevant to me and my bike preferences. For the record, I have a 2009 Soma DoubleCross in the garage that I love. I chose it over the Surly CrossCheck for several reasons (irrelevant to the discussion, but relevant to the underlying inference of Surly bias). I chose my 2008 KM over the Juice for several reasons (ETT too short and ST too short, not a dislike for the Juice). Both fit what I wanted in a bike better than the other options.

    I will also say that (I suspect the remarks were in jest) buying a bike doesn't 'make' someone better, training and mindset do. I can walk into my LBS and buy a Trek Madone, but I won't walk out Lance Armstrong
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    Love the Candy Apple Green color. That build looks very similar to my Juice; just finished it up two weeks ago. Wish I had gotten the white brakes though, they look good. I agree with all about the ride quality; I have an On-One Inbred 29er and it doesn't feel as smooth as the Juice.

    ***edit*** I tried to post pix, but haven't posted enough yet.

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    For Kit, since he's local and he's benefitted from my bike obsession...(Dad2TnR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBIkid View Post
    For Kit, since he's local and he's benefitted from my bike obsession...(Dad2TnR)
    Thanks, dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBIkid View Post
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    nice!
    that candy apple color is growing on me. at first i really didn't like it, but it looks great with white. i'm still sticking with my midnight silver... unless they happen to offer the juice in that new bluish color that the B Side comes in. HAWT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvojr View Post
    Mark, where are your gears?? (KennyO on TTB)
    Wow, a lot of you TTB guys are over here.
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    Just saw this and your right...

    Quote Originally Posted by CB2 View Post
    I've ridden both too. I had the Soma first and then built up the KM. My Soma was the Tange Prestige version (one of the reasons I bought it). It felt blah too me.
    The KM on the other hand had a very similar feel to my Tange Prestige Stumpjumper, and could better handle the tight New England singletrack I typically ride.
    I weigh 135 pounds so it's hard to understand how larger guys feel the KM is harsh unless they use a completely different spec on the tubeset.

    *edit*
    Oh yeah, and I've raced them both too. I've had the most success on the KM of all the frames I've raced.
    My Soma is Reynolds 631, not Tange Prestige. I am over 100lbs heavier than you (6ft 2in tall, do not know how tall you are) as well so our experiences could never be the same. That being said, the KM handles really well, but to me is waaaay harsh compared to other steel frames I have ridden. I have been riding steel exclusively since I started riding in (6 months on an alu Giant ht) 2000 and have owned about 8 different frames and ridden many others. I know a Clyde thats really fast who loves his KM more than his custom Soulcraft Option 3 26er so it really depends on personal preference more than anything else.
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    I had to laugh when I finally saw this....

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    My personal experience can never be equated with a "generalization". As for "hasty", do you have any idea how much experience I have riding both?. Of course you do not, so in reality its you that is being hasty. Some time with a dictionary is in order here. Also, your response tells me that you are a wee bit tender, or should I say SOFT.
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    What is that?....

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    So? How does it ride? Looks awesome. Love the green.

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    rides great..set up as a 34x17
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    Again, I did not "generalize"...

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLightGo View Post
    I'm sure it is discernible. I could tell the difference between my Redline Monocog Flight and KM when ridden back to back, but the difference is more than the tubesets. The KM is stiff if you define it that way. Problem is the artificial 'stiff' scale is applied differently by each individual...stiff to a 135lb Cat 1 guy is not stiff to me at 210lbs.


    I should have been more 'discerning' in my contextual grab. Hasty generalization referred to the generalized statements below, not his stated opinion:





    I don't discount his experience and am not offended if people don't like the KM. It's irrelevant to me and my bike preferences. For the record, I have a 2009 Soma DoubleCross in the garage that I love. I chose it over the Surly CrossCheck for several reasons (irrelevant to the discussion, but relevant to the underlying inference of Surly bias). I chose my 2008 KM over the Juice for several reasons (ETT too short and ST too short, not a dislike for the Juice). Both fit what I wanted in a bike better than the other options.

    I will also say that (I suspect the remarks were in jest) buying a bike doesn't 'make' someone better, training and mindset do. I can walk into my LBS and buy a Trek Madone, but I won't walk out Lance Armstrong
    I read at least 3 or 4 reviews of KM's in bike mags. Every one of them commented on the harshness of the ride. One went as far as saying "it did not feel like a steel bike" or something to that effect. Similar things have been said about the KM fork too. So no generalization, just pointing out what others have said. My experiences are the same. It handles nicely, but is too harsh imho. Others agree, some do not. Such is life. So don't get your panties in a bunch. You can do a Google search and read those same reviews for yourself.
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    That is one sweet ride...

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    rides great..set up as a 34x17
    Love the color!. 34x17?, thats no joke. I am running 34x20 on my Juice and my Soukri. The Juice feels flexy running 34x20 to me. How does 34x17 feel to you and how much do you weigh?.
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    34x17 is simply perfect for most applications...I raced it on Short Track this year..current weight 172
    I am not afraid to walk it if the hill is to tall for the gear...I like to pedal and a 20 is simply to short of a gear for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTSHANK View Post
    34x17 is simply perfect for most applications...I raced it on Short Track this year..current weight 172
    I am not afraid to walk it if the hill is to tall for the gear...I like to pedal and a 20 is simply to short of a gear for me
    Thanks for the info. I just moved up from 32x20 and thought it was tough going to 34x20 on the Juice. I weigh 250 and get a fair amount of bb flex when climbing on the Soma. The Soukri is stiffer in the bb and 34x20 has been much better. 34x17 is something for me to work towards. Especially after seeing how much faster 34x20 is than 32x20.
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    34x17: That's a MAN's gearing

    Quote Originally Posted by MTSHANK View Post
    34x17 is simply perfect for most applications...I raced it on Short Track this year..current weight 172
    I am not afraid to walk it if the hill is to tall for the gear...I like to pedal and a 20 is simply to short of a gear for me
    Where do you ride? I'm in the piedmont of NC (Charlotte),and that is considered a really tall gear, even for this area. I'm riding 32x18 on my Juice; that and 32x19 are the most common that I see in this area.
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    Looks like they redesigned the Juice or something? I dont see the head tube gusset.
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    Wait nevermind... Now I saw that you said it was a Juice that you repainted.
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    34:17 is TALL!
    don't like walkin'
    33:18/19 for me
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    Sub 20 lb Juice build

    Meltingfeather, that is a reality nice build; amazing to have a sub 20 lb steel frame bike. Mine tilts the scale at 26, but I did build it for a 210 clyde
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    Sweet Juice....

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    sub-20 lb. juice pr0n:

    What does a sub 20lb bike feel like on the trails and when climbing?. Does it bounce around more while descending at speed on techy terrain?. I cannot even imagine a bike that light!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitJ BBQman View Post
    Meltingfeather, that is a reality nice build; amazing to have a sub 20 lb steel frame bike. Mine tilts the scale at 26, but I did build it for a 210 clyde
    Thanks
    I weigh 210... and it feels plenty solid... she's a blast to ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edouble View Post
    What does a sub 20lb bike feel like on the trails and when climbing?. Does it bounce around more while descending at speed on techy terrain?. I cannot even imagine a bike that light!.
    thanks... it feels great... just goes where i want her to.. confidently.
    i don't feel like it's jittery at all, but i did move from ~740(+)g tires (Geax AKAs & Bontrager XDX TLR) to the 530g Stan's Raven 2.2s and it feels a bit easier to move around (picked up a few psi to keep the same feel). The Stan's tires grip surprisingly well for not having much tread. I have always liked small-knob tires, and our climate is drought punctuated by flash flooding... so i don't do any wet riding to speak of unless it happens to be on a race day and i can't avoid it. mostly rocky and gravel-over-hardpack central texas xc with short, steep climbing and roots and sand as you head east.
    Getting to sub-20 surprised me too. I'm not a super weight weenie, but I like nice parts. The tires made the difference. All the other parts I feel are worthy (yes, even 355s under a SSmasher clyde... that's the second wheelset those rims have been in and I built the first set about two years ago). It's kind of scary to think I could drop 2.5-3 lbs. out of the frame.
    I know we've got some 'monkey fans here... I just didn't like it personally and the Juice is the best riding steel HT I've been on. Different strokes, I guess.
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    nice build..mine was that color until I had to do some filet brazing on the seat stays...

    the orange turned out great and it's a blast to ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTSHANK View Post
    the orange turned out great and it's a blast to ride
    agreed... the one-off/custom appeal is nice too.
    i dig the badge as well... i almost got the new adhesive badge for mine, but just never pulled the trigger.
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    Thanks for the info....

    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    thanks... it feels great... just goes where i want her to.. confidently.
    i don't feel like it's jittery at all, but i did move from ~740(+)g tires (Geax AKAs & Bontrager XDX TLR) to the 530g Stan's Raven 2.2s and it feels a bit easier to move around (picked up a few psi to keep the same feel). The Stan's tires grip surprisingly well for not having much tread. I have always liked small-knob tires, and our climate is drought punctuated by flash flooding... so i don't do any wet riding to speak of unless it happens to be on a race day and i can't avoid it. mostly rocky and gravel-over-hardpack central texas xc with short, steep climbing and roots and sand as you head east.
    Getting to sub-20 surprised me too. I'm not a super weight weenie, but I like nice parts. The tires made the difference. All the other parts I feel are worthy (yes, even 355s under a SSmasher clyde... that's the second wheelset those rims have been in and I built the first set about two years ago). It's kind of scary to think I could drop 2.5-3 lbs. out of the frame.
    I know we've got some 'monkey fans here... I just didn't like it personally and the Juice is the best riding steel HT I've been on. Different strokes, I guess.
    It sounds like it rides like a Juice!, lol. One thing that always amazed me about the Juice is how smooth it rides. I remember a thread where the ride was compared favorably to the Niner M.C.R. by several posters that had owned both. Also, it tracks so well on steep climbs. The front does not wander at all and its so controlled going down. Minus 4lbs and that is one hell of a bike. Mine is about 23.5 lbs. A lot of bike for the money imho. Yes there are some KM fans here as there should be. I say more power to them. If they like the KM then good for them. If everyone liked and rode the same bike this would be one boring forum!, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KitJ BBQman View Post
    Where do you ride? I'm in the piedmont of NC (Charlotte),and that is considered a really tall gear, even for this area. I'm riding 32x18 on my Juice; that and 32x19 are the most common that I see in this area.
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    actually the gearing is 34x16...just checked, it's funny how you forget things
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    Love that green - I have a grey one (which actually has some purplish tones to it), getting tempted to build a second Juice looking at these photos.

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    Cool-blue Rhythm Juice w/ WB Carbon

    It's been awhile since I have ridden this but here's mine.
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    So, if you are not riding this beautiful specimen of a bike, what are you riding?
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    More Bling on the Juice

    I added a little more bling to the Juice with some gold braided hydro hoses and a gold chain.

    **edit** I guess I still haven't posted enough to be able to post pix
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    *this is a filler post so I can post pix*
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    Now I can Post Pix!

    Just a little bling added with gold braided hydro hoses and gold chain.
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    I have been in limbo cuz of trail running lately. Plus I have a stable of so many bikes, with so little time. My main ride is the Giant NRS3, oldie but goodie!

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    I am in the process of building a Juice SS and have ran into an issue mounting my Avid brake caliper. Not matter which Avid adapter I try it just will not line up with the rotor.

    Anyone else have this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azbeersnob View Post
    I am in the process of building a Juice SS and have ran into an issue mounting my Avid brake caliper. Not matter which Avid adapter I try it just will not line up with the rotor.

    Anyone else have this issue?

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    Not on my (former) Juice, but on a couple of other frames I've used presta valve nuts as spacers to get the caliper in the range of the alignment flexibility.
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    I really need a better pic of my Juice

    It doesn't really glow angelically, but it does ride pretty nicely:



    It's the new for this year 22" size.

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    on the rear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by azbeersnob View Post
    I am in the process of building a Juice SS and have ran into an issue mounting my Avid brake caliper. Not matter which Avid adapter I try it just will not line up with the rotor.

    Anyone else have this issue?

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    Jeff, I just built up a new wheel for my Juice, old is SS, new is geared, and I didn't even have to adjust the caliper for the new one. However, I am running Hayes Strokers, so maybe a difference there. There is a slight possibility that your specific frame may have a defect in the positioning of the caliper mounts. I think I read on here one poster had issues with weld bead filling the slot in the shifter cable stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azbeersnob View Post
    I am in the process of building a Juice SS and have ran into an issue mounting my Avid brake caliper. Not matter which Avid adapter I try it just will not line up with the rotor.

    Anyone else have this issue?

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    Hey Jeff,
    Can you expand a bit? Is the caliper not able to reach the rotor (horizontally)? Or, just can't seem to line up vertically? Are the mounting tabs on the frame straight? Like meltingfeather said; I too, had to get creative with spacers on an older Juice. My most recent model has been flawless.

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    Figured out the issue with the rear brake not mounting correctly...don't try and use a front brake adapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azbeersnob View Post
    Figured out the issue with the rear brake not mounting correctly...don't try and use a front brake adapter.

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    lol
    Glad you got it figured out.
    At least it's an easy fix
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    Finally got it all together and got a ride in on it. The bike felt great:
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    Quote Originally Posted by azbeersnob View Post
    Figured out the issue with the rear brake not mounting correctly...don't try and use a front brake adapter.

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    Doh! Fixes are the best. Glad you got sorted.

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    For those of you with the new frame, how do you like the new dropouts? Do they move on you at all? After having my 20" XL for over a year now, I feel like going up a size would fit me better and I do have my rear wheel slide on the dropouts at times since I run it geared. If the feedback is good, I'll probably be selling off this XL frame and moving up.

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    nice! my first real SS was a SOMA 4one5 - I loved that thing

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    Mine have been creak- and slip-free so far. I'm starting to be forced to revise my negative opinion of sliders....

    Quote Originally Posted by ajdemo76 View Post
    For those of you with the new frame, how do you like the new dropouts? Do they move on you at all? After having my 20" XL for over a year now, I feel like going up a size would fit me better and I do have my rear wheel slide on the dropouts at times since I run it geared. If the feedback is good, I'll probably be selling off this XL frame and moving up.

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    Built this past May. I am thinking of making this a 1x9 setup for this fall/winter but can't decide on a chain guide (no bash ring as I hope my HBC ring will be in soon). Any suggestions???
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    NEW Soma Juice Build

    Dude, that is awesome looking!!! I am envious of the new frame with slider dropouts. If you want to go 1x9, then I'll buy this frame for my SS version of "The Green Hornet" As for the chain guide, go with a Paul's; it is the most minimalist with out a bash guard.
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    The apple green Juice looks great. I'm researching for a build and I love the Soma.
    Thanks for the pics, it makes my decision a lot easier.

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    What size are you guys riding for how tall you are? I'm 5'9 with longer legs but I'm worried about a long top tube
    There's something about those long grueling climbs that gets my front end all stiff... And I'm not talking about lockout...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoraa View Post
    What size are you guys riding for how tall you are? I'm 5'9 with longer legs but I'm worried about a long top tube
    I'm 5'9" with short legs and rode an 18" (SOMA size Large). It fit me great. With your build, I'd say an 18" with some seatpost exposed is the way to go. I would think that the XL 20" would be too long for a 5'9" person.
    Enjoy the ride!

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    I have a short torso. The tt worries me. I ride an 18" trance and it feels crammed. A 17.5 felt elite and it feels perfect. I guess the soma would be closer to the felt in geo since my trance is so slack. The felt also had a 90 or 100mm stem so I have room to shorten the soma. Pretty sure I would have a dangerous amount of Seatpost exposed if I went 16.
    There's something about those long grueling climbs that gets my front end all stiff... And I'm not talking about lockout...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajdemo76 View Post
    For those of you with the new frame, how do you like the new dropouts? Do they move on you at all? After having my 20" XL for over a year now, I feel like going up a size would fit me better and I do have my rear wheel slide on the dropouts at times since I run it geared. If the feedback is good, I'll probably be selling off this XL frame and moving up.
    Better hurry....there arent many of the 22" frames left in the green. For 2013 they got rid of the drop top tube (which I think is one of the biggest differentiators of the bike) and the candy apple green color. My 22" frame showed up yesterday along with all of my parts from various online suppliers. Dropping off at LBS later today for "the build." Details and pics tomorrow, I hope! My wife asked me if I was going to sleep with the frame last night...lol.

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    Just called my lbs today. Out of 12 models. 2013 models come with a straight top tube and a half shorter inch seat tube per size. Also the color is a raw nickle. Still looks ****ing sweet! Won't be shipping till late December. I'll be buying one in January.
    There's something about those long grueling climbs that gets my front end all stiff... And I'm not talking about lockout...

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    There's something about those long grueling climbs that gets my front end all stiff... And I'm not talking about lockout...

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    Green looks better. :-)

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