Small Long travel 29ers?

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  • 11-23-2012
    Jwind
    Small Long travel 29ers?
    Must have 5 inches+ travel and 22.5 inch EFTT. What else besides the rumblefish?
  • 11-23-2012
    slowrider
    Tracer 29
    22.5 TT, I have one and it's pretty awsome, Foes has one with a 22.7 top tube and I think I'm going to change over to the Shaver 29 due to past experiences with Foes.
  • 11-23-2012
    rogerfromco
    The RIP9 has 5.5" with the 140mm fork and 23.3" TT length in the small frame. I just bought a large with the Talas fork and can drop it down to 110mm of travel for the long climbs. :D
  • 11-23-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rogerfromco View Post
    The RIP9 has 5.5" with the 140mm fork and 23.3" TT length in the small frame. I just bought a large with the Talas fork and can drop it down to 110mm of travel for the long climbs. :D

    That's almost an inch too long. 22.5 is the max length we can work with. Or at least very close.
  • 11-23-2012
    rogerfromco
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    That's almost an inch too long. 22.5 is the max length we can work with. Or at least very close.

    Not sure how EFTT compares to TT length, but on Niner's site, that measurement is from the seat post to the head tube.
  • 11-23-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rogerfromco View Post
    Not sure how EFTT compares to TT length, but on Niner's site, that measurement is from the seat post to the head tube.

    That's EFTT (EFfective Top Tube) length. Actual TT length is really a meaningless measurement and generally isn't posted on manufactures websites.
  • 11-23-2012
    eurospek
    Transition Covert 29er

    Small 21.2" Medium 22.2"
  • 11-23-2012
    FM
    eff. TT on 29'ers is total grab-bag, due to the slack seat tubes typically used to create tire clearance without increasing chainstay length.

    I would look at the medium Transition Bandit 29'er. Feels a half or full size smaller than my medium Prime (23" ETT) with the same build.
  • 11-23-2012
    muzzanic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rogerfromco View Post
    The RIP9 has 5.5" with the 140mm fork and 23.3" TT length in the small frame. I just bought a large with the Talas fork and can drop it down to 110mm of travel for the long climbs. :D

    Hi the Rip9 is 4.5 inch,

    The WFO is 5.5 inch
  • 11-24-2012
    freighttrain48
  • 11-24-2012
    mtbmitch2
    Turner made 25 size small Sultans.
  • 11-24-2012
    antonio
  • 11-24-2012
    rollinrob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by antonio View Post


    I am 5'4 on a really good day and this bike fit bette rthan any other 29er I have tried, great standover and fits like a glove. It a very sweet ride.
  • 11-24-2012
    petey15
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rollinrob View Post
    I am 5'4 on a really good day and this bike fit bette rthan any other 29er I have tried, great standover and fits like a glove. It a very sweet ride.

    Ditto! This bike was the first full-suspension 29er that truly fit (I also own a Misfit Dissent, but that's a SS hardtail). I love everything about the Trance X 29er and the confidence it has given me. You should definitely put it on your short list. :thumbsup:
  • 11-24-2012
    ALBM
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ALBM View Post
    This:

    Frames

    Just a thought, but posting geo on your website is a very helpful to the consumer :skep:
  • 11-24-2012
    hetsekr
    good luck
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hetsekr View Post
    good luck

    Umm, thanks ? :skep:
  • 11-24-2012
    TwoTone
    Is 23.1 to long? If not Santa Cruz Tallbot LT
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Is 23.1 to long? If not Santa Cruz Tallbot LT

    Sadly, I think so. :/
  • 11-24-2012
    dubdryver
    If he's 5'4, he's not going to fit into a 23.5" TT, unless he's got a longer torso in proportion.
    I did a bike fit recently for a guy that is 5'4 and we ended up having to go with a 50mm stem
    and the saddle is all the way forward on the rails. This was on a small EMD (23.2 ETT). It wasn't an
    optimal fit, but that's the bike he built. I would have thought my TBc as a medium would have fit him better.
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    If he's 5'4, he's not going to fit into a 23.5" TT, unless he's got a longer torso in proportion.
    I did a bike fit recently for a guy that is 5'4 and we ended up having to go with a 50mm stem
    and the saddle is all the way forward on the rails. This was on a small EMD (23.2 ETT). It wasn't an
    optimal fit, but that's the bike he built. I would have thought my TBc as a medium would have fit him better.

    Well, it's for my fiance but you are totally right.
  • 11-24-2012
    muzzanic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Well, it's for my fiance but you are totally right.

    How hard does she ride ?

    My wife is on a small Jet9 RDO, 5'3 & just loves it, I ride 1 to & it can hanle the ruff very well for a 100mm travel bike & it is light & pedals awesome.

    Maybe have a look at a Jet9 Carbon as a silghtly cheaper option.

    They also make it in a XS
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    How hard does she ride ?

    My wife is on a small Jet9 RDO, 5'3 & just loves it, I ride 1 to & it can hanle the ruff very well for a 100mm travel bike & it is light & pedals awesome.

    Maybe have a look at a Jet9 Carbon as a silghtly cheaper option.

    They also make it in a XS

    We live in Moab. I'm starting to get concerned about it exploding :p.

    Seriously, I think she'd like a little more travel and I'm just not sure we want to pony up for the carbon to get the XS which is really what she's after.
  • 11-24-2012
    dubdryver
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Well, it's for my fiance but you are totally right.

    Believe it or not, my ex-gf (gf at the time) was in the same situation...but she is racing and on a carbon Niner HT..thats how I knew quickly kind how the fit was going to be. She's 5'4' on a small RDO...The XS's weren't available at the time.

    Just out of curiosity, what kind of budget are you on for a frame? Companies like Vantana do custom.
    El Rey | Ventana Mountain Bikes USA

    Along with Lenz Sports...

    Also, the Banshee Prime (140mm travel) medium has a 22.8" TT. This coupled with a short stem, zero post, and some bars that have a decent sweep may be the ticket.
    Banshee Prime: All Mountain
  • 11-24-2012
    Jwind
    Custom is more than we want to spend. Especially considering how long (not long) bikes last in Moab.

    Banshee is a good idea except there is no dealer here and I was an owner of one of those V1 rune owners that had problems with their pivots. I know the prime is different, but my experience with that company leaves me wanting to give them a big FU. I'll admit it is a sweet bike. If anything, maybe too much bike for her. I'll admit, it's a nice ride!
  • 11-24-2012
    freighttrain48
    why not the yeti sb95
  • 11-24-2012
    TwoTone
    Have you considered a 650B?

    Also look at an Intense Spider 29 Comp.

    Carbon Fiber, 5 inches travel and small has a TT of 22.5
  • 11-24-2012
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Transition Covert 29er

    Small 21.2" Medium 22.2"

    :confused:
  • 11-25-2012
    slowrider
    650 b is a good thought
    I'm 5'6" and own a Tracer 29, I recently tested a Tracer 275 and that bike seems so much quicker, even with 1/2 inch more travel and 3 degrees slacker head angle. It would fit better.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Have you considered a 650B?

    Also look at an Intense Spider 29 Comp.

    Carbon Fiber, 5 inches travel and small has a TT of 22.5

  • 11-25-2012
    Silly Man
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    Numbers can be misleading, try this one out
    I have a Med. Tallboy LTc. I'm 5'5", 28" inseam.

    I ride a 50mm stem, 750mm carbon bar.

    Check the pic.

    I had a small Nomad before. 1" difference in TT and WB.

    Sylvain
  • 11-25-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silly Man View Post
    I have a Med. Tallboy LTc. I'm 5'5", 28" inseam.

    I ride a 50mm stem, 750mm carbon bar.

    Check the pic.

    I had a small Nomad before. 1" difference in TT and WB.

    Sylvain

    Tallboy LT is pushing it but a possibility. Sadly, the seat tube is too long for her to use her 125mm dropper post wich is a major downer.

    The yeti is a possibility. So is 650b. Scott has a bunch of nice options this coming year.
  • 11-25-2012
    Silly Man
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    This is our way down next...
    I have a 75mm Specialized Black. Don't need more than that. I hold my own with guys with battle armor and full DH bike. I'm not the fastest but also this is not a DH bike after all.

    So all mountain it is. How much do you really need to lower your seat. Most of the time, I lower mine about 30mm if I have to.

    S
  • 11-25-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silly Man View Post
    I have a 75mm Specialized Black. Don't need more than that. I hold my own with guys with battle armor and full DH bike. I'm not the fastest but also this is not a DH bike after all.

    So all mountain it is. How much do you really need to lower your seat. Most of the time, I lower mine about 30mm if I have to.

    S

    A specialized black? huh? How much do we lower our saddle in Moab? A lot and often. I have a 125mm KS post. I'm planning on getting the 150mm sometime soon. If I had to choose between disc brakes and a dropper post, I'd choose disc brakes but it would be close ;)
  • 11-25-2012
    Silly Man
    Specialized command post Blacklite. Ridden tons in Moab, including UPS, LPS and Porcupine as a loop from town as well as the Portal trail. Took a group for the Kokopelli from Fruita to Moab. Did become handy on Rose Garden Hill.

    75mm is plenty for me. All I am saying, is don't write yourself out of a great bike before you look at ALL the variables.

    Good luck!
  • 11-25-2012
    mikesee
    I've ridden the Rumblefish a bit and it ain't a bad bike. No big manufacturer is making anything ~better for "Moab XC".

    But if you start looking at the smaller builders, you can probably improve on the geo of the 'fish pretty easily.

    A few pics here of The Missus on some of your backyard trails last week.
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    She's riding a size small LenzSport Mammoth.
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    She's fairly short-legged, and a KS 75mm post is slammed (all the way into the frame) to give her *just* the right amount of post extension. Whether your SO can get a 4" or 5" drop post to work on this frame depends a lot on her leg length and a little on which saddle she prefers.
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    Pretty sure hers is the first S Mammoth in existence. But I saw a few more in stock at my local (GJ, CO) LBS last week. Which means if you were in the neighborhood (Sam's run?) you could swing a leg over and kick the tires at least.
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    My SO is coming off of a 3" travel bike, and hasn't completely embraced the concept of the on-the-fly changes in geo that happen when you double the travel and start riding more aggressively.
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    But riding in your backyard is helping that process along quickly.
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    I only have the one bike/frame here to measure, but I'm happy to answer questions if this one makes your 'must look deeper' list.

    MC
  • 11-26-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silly Man View Post
    Specialized command post Blacklite. Ridden tons in Moab, including UPS, LPS and Porcupine as a loop from town as well as the Portal trail. Took a group for the Kokopelli from Fruita to Moab. Did become handy on Rose Garden Hill.

    75mm is plenty for me. All I am saying, is don't write yourself out of a great bike before you look at ALL the variables.

    Good luck!

    I'm still confused. I'm looking for a bike, not a dropper post :confused:

    @mikesee thanks for heads up on the lenz. Have to take a closer look.
  • 11-26-2012
    Walt
    Front center
    Ett does not mean much for longer travel, slack ht bikes. Try to figure out what front center she needs and go from there.

    Fwiw given the requirements I would look at smaller wheels. I think you are losing more than you're gaining with 29" wheels in this case.

    Walt
  • 11-26-2012
    JACKL
    Edited - I realized after I posted that the Motobecane is 100mm rear travel.

    Medium GT Sensor 9r is 22.73. 120 travel, 69.5 HTA.

    http://www.gtbicycles.com/media/uplo...%202013(1).pdf
    Sensor 9R Expert - Trail - Mountain - Bikes - 2013

    Good luck in your search.
  • 11-26-2012
    Jwind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Ett does not mean much for longer travel, slack ht bikes. Try to figure out what front center she needs and go from there.

    Why not? Where talking about reach here. Too long and you're stretched out. which sucks for an all mountainy type stuff.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Fwiw given the requirements I would look at smaller wheels. I think you are losing more than you're gaining with 29" wheels in this case.
    Walt

    She like the big wheels. Feels they ride better in the chunk and rides more on them. That's all that counts IMO.
  • 11-26-2012
    jncarpenter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Why not? Where talking about reach here. Too long and you're stretched out. which sucks for an all mountainy type stuff.

    My thought as well. Reach is a far more valuable metric than FC...imho.

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  • 11-27-2012
    LyNx
    I'd have to agree with JNC and the others who go by Reach. Although this is fairly new to me, it has worked out quite well in moving from the Paradox to the Prime. Reach on the Paradox was 446mm and on the Prime 472mm for the XL frames and I've settled on a 70mm stem for the Prime over 90mm for the Paradox, although I tried a 60mm, but felt it a tad too short - this goes to my thoughts that maybe a 65mm would be just perfect and would put the 2 frames within 1mm total reach.

    Jwind, I know some got left with a bad taste over the bushing issue, but don't let that dissuade you from looking at the Prime, it's a great bike - the ETT for the M is 22.8", reach 411mm, ST 17.5", which falls within your parameters. As to it being too much bike for your wife, not a chance, not if Moab and that sort of riding is your thing. If I remember it right, didn't you move her from an older bike to a nicer FS a couple years ago and it really boosted her confidence and riding? If that's you, then most assuredly the Prime would do that again - it most certainly did that for me.

    Fixed that for you, travel is 130mm not 140mm, but most run a 140mm fork on them as that's what they're designed around, well actual 546mm A2C.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    Also, the Banshee Prime (130mm travel) medium has a 22.8" TT. This coupled with a short stem, zero post, and some bars that have a decent sweep may be the ticket.
    Banshee Prime: All Mountain

  • 11-27-2012
    evasive
    Crossed wires
    I read that as Walt arguing against using ETT for fit, because that's the measurement that Jwind started the thread with. When Jwind responded with "we're talking about reach here" I wasn't sure whether he meant "reach" specifically as the reach/stack bike measurement, or just as a degree of how stretched out the cockpit fit is, since I don't think reach measurements have been mentioned yet in this thread - apologies if I'm wrong about that.

    I haven't spent much time wrapping my head around front center, although I understand it's the shortest distance between the BB and the front hub. That makes it fork dependent, obviously. Like JNC and LyNx, (and Walt) I agree that ETT isn't that useful for predicting how a bike in this class will fit. Reach is the first number I look at now.
  • 11-27-2012
    Enel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    I haven't spent much time wrapping my head around front center, although I understand it's the shortest distance between the BB and the front hub. That makes it fork dependent, obviously. Like JNC and LyNx, (and Walt) I agree that ETT isn't that useful for predicting how a bike in this class will fit. Reach is the first number I look at now.

    Front center is most useful when comparing between two of the same type of bikes. It varies wildly, however with different front ends.

    I had a short travel hardtail, mid travel FS bike, and rigid all set up with nearly identical reach: when measuring front center it varied by three to four inches. The FS bike had by far the shortest ETT, but the longest reach and by far the longest FC.

    Long story short: use reach to get your cockpit sizing. After that, compare the geometry on similar class bikes with close to the same reach to pick the one you prefer. By similar, I mean same configuration and travel, otherwise the comparison is pretty worthless.
  • 11-27-2012
    Jwind
    The distance from center of seatpost to center of headtube. Call it whatever you want. I'm no bike builder, but that's the measurement the ride is responsible for spanning with their body. And yes, I know, from there the stem length will add distance, but that's flexible. The former is not.
  • 11-27-2012
    Enel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    The distance from center of seatpost to center of headtube. Call it whatever you want. I'm no bike builder, but that's the measurement the ride is responsible for spanning with their body. And yes, I know, from there the stem length will add distance, but that's flexible. The former is not.

    Only when seated. Reach is the distance (horizontal, center of BB to center of HT) you span when standing. Both are important, but at different times.
  • 11-27-2012
    evasive
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    The distance from center of seatpost to center of headtube. Call it whatever you want. I'm no bike builder, but that's the measurement the ride is responsible for spanning with their body. And yes, I know, from there the stem length will add distance, but that's flexible. The former is not.

    That's the ETT. But it's dependent on the seat tube angle, and what a number of us are getting at is that reach is a better measurement to consider with modern frame design. My hardtail has an ETT 0.5" longer than my FS bike, but the FS bike has a longer feeling cockpit; the reach is longer. In that case, the ETT doesn't do a very good job of predicting how the bike fits me.

    This illustration is pretty good for showing the difference between reach and ETT.

  • 11-27-2012
    LyNx
    Actually Jwind, that measurement is not a good one to use if moving from one frame intended for say XC to another more Trail/AM oriented as the angles will change and that doesn't take that into account. If on say her current bike the STA was 74* and then she's looking at a bike with a 72* STA, going by ETT she would end up with a smaller cockpit because she would have to run her saddle further forward on the rails to end up in the same position relative to the BB as on her previous bike and therfor would have to run a longer stem and/or wider bar.

    - ETT is just a horizontal measurement, it does not take into consideration where your saddle is relative to the BB and that is something that should be permanent as you don't want to be changing how far behind the BB you sit to make the bike fit, that's what stem length changes are for.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    The distance from center of seatpost to center of headtube. Call it whatever you want. I'm no bike builder, but that's the measurement the ride is responsible for spanning with their body. And yes, I know, from there the stem length will add distance, but that's flexible. The former is not.

  • 11-29-2012
    LB412
    Off topic...

    Im 5'10 and trying to decide between a M or L TB LTc. Shop is pushing a M with a slightly longer stem and a saddle adjust. I rode a friends M on a 5 mile trail and it felt a bit cramped when climbing. Though this was without any adjustments. Also, I use flat pedals and couldn't shake the feeling that my feet would contact the front wheel on aggressive turns. Not sure if the latter would change much with a 1" size increase. I am also new to 29s so this could be the norm and something that goes away with more time on the bike.

    Thanks in advance for the input
  • 11-29-2012
    mattnmtns
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Off topic...

    Im 5'10 and trying to decide between a M or L TB LTc. Shop is pushing a M with a slightly longer stem and a saddle adjust. I rode a friends M on a 5 mile trail and it felt a bit cramped when climbing. Though this was without any adjustments. Also, I use flat pedals and couldn't shake the feeling that my feet would contact the front wheel on aggressive turns. Not sure if the latter would change much with a 1" size increase. I am also new to 29s so this could be the norm and something that goes away with more time on the bike.

    Thanks in advance for the input

    I'm 5'10" and ride a M TB. Kind of right on the cusp of the M and L. In the end I went with the M with a 100mm stem. Just felt better to me. FWIW that is what the shop owner was pushing as well. He is 5'10" and he said thats what he would ride. I know the TB Lt is slightly different geometry but its a little bit larger so I would say the same pretty much applies. I also ride flats, you think the tire is close but I have never had an issue. I'd have to have my feet near the heels to actually hit.
  • 11-29-2012
    LB412
    Tire connected with my shoe coming out of the driveway but no problems once I was on the hill.
  • 11-29-2012
    TwoTone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattnmtns View Post
    I'm 5'10" and ride a M TB. Kind of right on the cusp of the M and L. In the end I went with the M with a 100mm stem. Just felt better to me. FWIW that is what the shop owner was pushing as well. He is 5'10" and he said thats what he would ride. I know the TB Lt is slightly different geometry but its a little bit larger so I would say the same pretty much applies. I also ride flats, you think the tire is close but I have never had an issue. I'd have to have my feet near the heels to actually hit.

    I'm 5' 10 3/4 on a Large TBc, can't imagine how tight it'd feel on a M.
  • 11-29-2012
    Silly Man
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    Go with the Large, 50mm stem and 750 bars. Make the bike a lot more lively and fun. As well, the extra Top tube and Wheel base make it glued to the ground on steep climbs.

    I use to have a Nomad with TALAS 36. Needed it for steep climbs. But my LTc is 1" longer in both TT and WB. Don't need the Talas.

    More users could go into detail about it but I use a Medium and I am 5'5" with 28" inseam.
    At 5'10", you'll love both bike sizes. However, you'll get more out of a Large in terms of capabilities.

    One friend at 5'10 on a Large and one at 6' on a XL.

    Good luck. Shredder bike in any terrain.

    Sylvain
  • 11-29-2012
    LB412
    Thats kinda where my head is at. The confusion lies with the shop who is pushing the better parts on the M... and I will have to upgrade the fork for sure. They are telling me that is about $850 for Fox float 34.
  • 11-29-2012
    Ciclistagonzo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Custom is more than we want to spend. Especially considering how long (not long) bikes last in Moab.

    I don't think you need a custom from Ventana, the newly redesigned El Capitan fit's all your needs.

    El Capitán | Ventana Mountain Bikes USA

    The 15" meets all that you requested I believe


    22.5 ETT, 120/140 travel and burly strong.
  • 11-30-2012
    rattpoison
    I'm 5'4, and I'd just like to wipe out the myth that smaller riders don't benefit from 29ers. I have a yeti sb-95, and rode it back to back with my friend's sb-66. I liked my 29er, hands down, on rocky, all-mountain/DH terrain(Stevens Pass). Another myth is that 29ers are only for XC/trail, although nobody is debating that in this thread. I think that a 5+ travel 29er for a small rider is a very reasonable demand and is doable. I'm currently waiting for my Lenzsport to be painted and shipped.
  • 11-30-2012
    TwoTone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Thats kinda where my head is at. The confusion lies with the shop who is pushing the better parts on the M... and I will have to upgrade the fork for sure. They are telling me that is about $850 for Fox float 34.

    If they wanted the sale they could swap the parts for you. The head tube is the same size on medium and large frames.
  • 11-30-2012
    LB412
    They are changing the stems for me this morning. 10M shorter on the large opposite on M