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    Santa Cruz Tallboy LT or Stumpjumper FSR Expert EVO 29

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    I am looking for a new bike. Which one should I choose:

    1. The new Tallboy LT or
    2. Stumpjumper FSR Expert EVO 29

    Appreciate any thoughts that makes my decision a bit easier

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    The stumpy is awfully nice. But that SC is nice too. I'm sure that was really helpful.

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    LOVING my EVO!!! ...goes over everything!
    I haven't been on the newer VPP2's but I never really settled in on my original Nomad's first gen VPP. I've tried many different suspension formats over the years and keep coming back to the Horst 4-bar. For reference, I'm riding the rock and root strewn trails of New England.

    Price difference?

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    What bike do you have now? You're probably about to get a whole lot of different opinions on VPP2 and FSR/horst link.

    They're both good looking bikes. The main difference I see between them is that the SJ EVO has a slacker headangle (pretty sure it's 68 deg vs 69.5 on the SC) which in theory would make the evo a bit more stable at speed and on steep stuff. There are other subtle geometry differences but the best way to decide would be to test ride them.

    Is there a reason you've narrowed the choice to those two bikes? I'd also be considering, in no particular order, the Transition Bandit, Niner WFO, Turner Sultan, Kona Satori, Intense Tracer 29 and Norco Shinobi.

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    There's really only one answer to this question. They're both great bikes. If you're going to spend that much on a bike, you absolutely MUST go ride them both. Then get the one that feels best to you (not me, not morphosity, not BMJ and not anyone else on here).

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    Which one has the shortest chainstays and squats the least when climbing?

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    Definitely get the Stumpjumper. I just ordered a Tallboy LT and the less people buying them, the sooner I get mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    There's really only one answer to this question. They're both great bikes. If you're going to spend that much on a bike, you absolutely MUST go ride them both. Then get the one that feels best to you (not me, not morphosity, not BMJ and not anyone else on here).

    The only way you'll go wrong is to get one that doesn't suit you.
    +1 you need to ride them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morphosity View Post
    What bike do you have now? You're probably about to get a whole lot of different opinions on VPP2 and FSR/horst link.

    They're both good looking bikes. The main difference I see between them is that the SJ EVO has a slacker headangle (pretty sure it's 68 deg vs 69.5 on the SC) which in theory would make the evo a bit more stable at speed and on steep stuff. There are other subtle geometry differences but the best way to decide would be to test ride them.

    Is there a reason you've narrowed the choice to those two bikes? I'd also be considering, in no particular order, the Transition Bandit, Niner WFO, Turner Sultan, Kona Satori, Intense Tracer 29 and Norco Shinobi.
    Agree. The Norco is a hidden jewel. Try as many bikes as you can. The bike design is more important than the suspension design. Find a bike that fits you, your terrain and your ridding terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morphosity View Post
    What bike do you have now? You're probably about to get a whole lot of different opinions on VPP2 and FSR/horst link.

    They're both good looking bikes. The main difference I see between them is that the SJ EVO has a slacker headangle (pretty sure it's 68 deg vs 69.5 on the SC) which in theory would make the evo a bit more stable at speed and on steep stuff. There are other subtle geometry differences but the best way to decide would be to test ride them.

    Is there a reason you've narrowed the choice to those two bikes? I'd also be considering, in no particular order, the Transition Bandit, Niner WFO, Turner Sultan, Kona Satori, Intense Tracer 29 and Norco Shinobi.
    Hi

    Thanks for all your replies, interesting to read all the different comments!

    I am planning a bike trip to Colorado this summer (living in Switzerland). My idea is to preorder a bike so that I can pick it up upon my arrival in Denver....

    At the moment I ride a HT 29er, but I am really looking for something with more travel. I narrowed the bikes down to the EVO and the Tallboy LT, but there is no chance I can test ride ether the EVO nor the Tallboy LT here in Switzerland....
    I once had the chance to ride the Tallboy 100mm and it was awesome, so I thought more travel on a bike like the Tallboy must suit me perfectly.

    Both the EVO and the Tallboy LT are in the same price range... I think I go for the Tallboy LT, cause I really like the brand. Not sure thought if its worth to spend extra money in the carbon version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    I think I go for the Tallboy LT, cause I really like the brand.
    Your opinion of the TBLT based on no riding experience is just as good as the people you are asking...who haven't ridden it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigsj View Post
    Your opinion of the TBLT based on no riding experience is just as good as the people you are asking...who haven't ridden it either.
    You are absolutely right, I only know the 100mm Tallboy and I really liked it. As there is no chance for me to testride one in advance, I just asume it will be right bike for me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Agree. The Norco is a hidden jewel. Try as many bikes as you can. The bike design is more important than the suspension design. Find a bike that fits you, your terrain and your ridding terrain.
    Just head down to your LBS to try all the Santa Cruz Tall Boy LT, Niner RDO, Kona, Transition Bandit 29, and Norco demos they have in your size.
    That will take 2 minutes.

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    I can't find half of those bikes built to ride in New England. I'm guessing in Switzerland it would be just about impossible to demo them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    I can't find half of those bikes built to ride in New England. I'm guessing in Switzerland it would be just about impossible to demo them.
    Either you're new to the internet, or your sarcasm meter is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigsj View Post
    Your opinion of the TBLT based on no riding experience is just as good as the people you are asking...who haven't ridden it either.
    Well said.

    I often buy bikes without riding because there is just no demo's, But i am prepaired to dump a new bike if I don't like it.

    If there is any way to demo a bike you must take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    Hi

    Thanks for all your replies, interesting to read all the different comments!

    I am planning a bike trip to Colorado this summer (living in Switzerland). My idea is to preorder a bike so that I can pick it up upon my arrival in Denver....
    Where in CO? I bet you could arrange to test the bikes once you get here. Call some shops where you'll be going and see what you can work out with them. IF they know you're going to buy one or the other, they'd probably be willing to order both in (assuming you can find a shop that sells both brands) for you to test.

    You can also check with multiple shops; just be up front. You want to buy a bike, but will be testing both (or even others) and buying the one that best suits you. Assuming you're a regular size (M, L, XL), those bikes will sell one way or another.
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    Is anyone even going to be able to get their hands on a Tallboy LT anytime soon. I waited 4 months for my regular Tallboy. Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    Either you're new to the internet, or your sarcasm meter is broken.

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    Doh! Yes, in reading that again I definitely need my meter serviced. I'll abstain from posting until it gets a healthy dose of coffee.

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    Hi, I have the Spec FSR STJ 29 Comp and love it, sometimes wish I bought the EVO model.

    Check out the video on the Spec website for the 29 FSR Expert EVO:
    4 ways to ride..................Sauser and friends riding in the Swiss Alps.

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    Hi.
    I'm currently riding Tallboy in carbon which it is a great bike, but thinking about LT as you do. I was decided between Epic 29er and Tallboy but when I ride both(on Outerbike 2010) Epic seems to me too race oriented.
    Why don't you reschedule your vacatin time on October when you can demo all kinds of great bikes LT included on Moab's 2012 Outerbike Outerbike - Schedule
    I was there when its begin and highly recommend to anybody who wants to buy a new bike.
    It isn't that far from Denver and you will enjoy the scenery and trails around Moab you might know from mtb magazines.
    I'm not sure about the dates but there is another bike show in Las Vegas. It is sooner than Outerbike.
    BTW I'm from Europe too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountlynx View Post
    Hi

    Thanks for all your replies, interesting to read all the different comments!

    I am planning a bike trip to Colorado this summer (living in Switzerland). My idea is to preorder a bike so that I can pick it up upon my arrival in Denver....

    At the moment I ride a HT 29er, but I am really looking for something with more travel. I narrowed the bikes down to the EVO and the Tallboy LT, but there is no chance I can test ride ether the EVO nor the Tallboy LT here in Switzerland....
    I once had the chance to ride the Tallboy 100mm and it was awesome, so I thought more travel on a bike like the Tallboy must suit me perfectly.

    Both the EVO and the Tallboy LT are in the same price range... I think I go for the Tallboy LT, cause I really like the brand. Not sure thought if its worth to spend extra money in the carbon version?

    Well if you wait til tomorrow I can tell you what I think. I have been on my FSR 29er Comp since November. I have a TBLT demo bike in the garage now and going out for a ride tomorrow to see how it compares.

    The head angle on my FSR should be close to the Evo since I put a 34 Fox 140mm on the front.
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    I thought I was totally sold on a Tallboy LT, but after riding both I wound up with a Stumpy EVO 29er. The geometry and feel was the primary factor for me. To me the Tallboy felt more XC oriented and the EVO suited my riding style better. I felt a more in the bike feel, with a lower feeling center of gravity on the Stumpy. The Tallboy LT rode like a bigger bike to me, the Stumpy felt most like my 26ers in terms of handling. The Stumpy is a very neutral handling bike, that is very comfortable in the air.
    You really can't go wrong either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morandi View Post
    I thought I was totally sold on a Tallboy LT, but after riding both I wound up with a Stumpy EVO 29er. The geometry and feel was the primary factor for me. To me the Tallboy felt more XC oriented and the EVO suited my riding style better. I felt a more in the bike feel, with a lower feeling center of gravity on the Stumpy. The Tallboy LT rode like a bigger bike to me, the Stumpy felt most like my 26ers in terms of handling. The Stumpy is a very neutral handling bike, that is very comfortable in the air.
    You really can't go wrong either way.
    The LT seems XC-oriented? That is a pretty interressting statement, regarding a 140mm 29er bike :-) I've tried the Tallboy carbon and ridden a few rides on the SJ Comp version. The SJ was a lot of fun right out of the box, and a hoot on my local gnarly root and rocks trails. The TB was more (than the SJ) XC oriented with a 120mm fork, but a relaxed ride (not racy) with smooth suspension. Hard to believe the the TB LTC should be XC, but please elaborate some more about the experience. I like the idea of a snappy bike, so please tell more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simenf View Post
    The LT seems XC-oriented? That is a pretty interressting statement, regarding a 140mm 29er bike :-) I've tried the Tallboy carbon and ridden a few rides on the SJ Comp version. The SJ was a lot of fun right out of the box, and a hoot on my local gnarly root and rocks trails. The TB was more (than the SJ) XC oriented with a 120mm fork, but a relaxed ride (not racy) with smooth suspension. Hard to believe the the TB LTC should be XC, but please elaborate some more about the experience. I like the idea of a snappy bike, so please tell more!
    What I meant was not so much that the Tallboy LT is an XC bike, but it feels like thats where its roots are. I think the Tallboy LT would appeal to a rider coming from a more XC bent that wants something with longer travel, where to me at least the Stumpy EVO would appeal to someone coming from a DH/All mountain background that wants to get on big wheels. Don't get me wrong either bike is more than capable of wringing it out, I am just splitting hairs here.
    To me the biggest difference, was that the Tallboy felt like a bigger bike when I was riding it, I noticed the big wheels more than on the Stumpy, which felt more manuverable and flickable.

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