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    S and S coupled 29er

    I get to travel a bit but this usually means airline fees or the bikes stay at home. I have an XL Dos niner and a El Ray. I can brake down the El Ray but it's still a pretty good size and does not avoid charges.

    I am interested in a VERY oversized tubed hardtail steel frame with couplers in place. My custom road bike is made of big FOCO tubing and I love it.
    However, that just seems like a huge soak of cash. I might also like a Salsa El Mariachi and then have the couplers installed. I see indication that I might have to have the frame repainted. The blue El Marichi really appeals to me and I would not want that screwed up. It's also not built of the mammothe steel tubing I am fond of.

    Any thoughts?

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    Should be plenty of custom builders that would build you a s&s bike in whatever tubing you desire. I have a converted waterford road bike done by bilenky that turned out pretty good but I think having a custom built frame with the couplers would be best. That being said I would let bilenky's do my retrofit again they do good work.

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    My wife and I both have bikes with Bilenky retrofits on cheap-o frames (soma and surly) and have been happy with them, though it sounds like what you really want is a custom frame. Any custom builder should be able to do it for you and my guess is that S&S makes couplers for the oversize tubing.

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    Curtlo does some nice coupled frames, I'd give them a look - very impressed with the roadies my 2 friends have. Only thing for me would be to get the geo tweaked a bit so it's more relaxed along the lines of the Paradox/Yelli.
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    I have a Ritchey Break-Away CX bike and prefer this system to the S&S. Steve Potts (and maybe others) are using this system to build bikes. Also Mark Nobilette is using an even cooler (but more expensive) coupling system. Before buying a Salsa and spending the money to retrofit and repaint, I'd look at other options that will get you a custom bike at the same price that you'd end up spending on retrofiting a production bike. (This is true even if you go with the S&S.)

    Also, getting my 58cm CX frame into a small box is a tight fit. Getting a "largish" 29er to fit into a box that will go on a airplane is going to be tough. You won't be able to keep air in the tires (so no tubeless system's that require latex), and if you need a long top tube beware that the bike box might need to be over-sized, which will incur larger airline fees.
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    All good information and gives me some direction. Laffeaux has indicated that the couplers may not break the bike down small enough so I will need to research further.

    Thanks!

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