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    RSD Bikes 29er +

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    Edit: I first saw this company over in the fat bikes thread. Learned that they have frames coming out in 4130 Chromoly, and Reynolds 853. They are also having handmade USA built frames for sale. As I understand it, the frames for the 29+, Mutant, and the regular 29er, Chief, are the same. Only the builds are different. Great value on the dollar. Looks like RSD is delivering a lot of what folks have to go to a custom builder to get. Hope RSD can come through and deliver on what looks like nice bikes. I like it when folks from the bike companies come on threads and answer questions posed directly by users, which RSD did a nice job of over in the fat bike forums. Maybe this RSD post is a little spammy, but I wouldn't hold it against them.

    In case anyone is interested, there is also another thread here: RSD bike anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    I think this might be considered spam by some folks. I like your bikes, and they look great, but I tend to think it's the best form to let users start threads and promote your bikes, which has already been happening as you know. I like it when folks from the bike companies come on threads and answer questions posed directly by users, which you guys did a nice job of over in the fat bike forums. Maybe I'm wrong about this, so I'll let others chastise me if I'm crossing a line.

    As you can see, there was already a thread started here: RSD bike anyone?

    And I posted there some days back to show my support.
    I couldn't agree more. Really looks like shameless promotion to my eyes but a man's gotta eat, right?

    Nice bike though.
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    I'm all for bike companies pumping awareness and seeking feedback. It shows that they give a sht. Thoughts? Thanks for making bikes RSD.

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    Tell me more about the fork.

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    We are a brand new company and all we are doing is create awareness. By posting this threads, we were simply looking for some feedbacks. We don't have the same means as the bigger players, so we do what we can. Thanks for the inputs
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    Carbon rigid or 100mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
    Carbon rigid or 100mm?
    Frantiklex, I think you're going to get a lot of questions about which suspension fork you are squeezing the 47mm rim and the Knard 29+ tire into. Most/all forks have clearance issues fitting that combo.

    Also, I'd like to know more about the hub you are using for your 29+ wheels. I've never heard of the hub you are using. Can you tell me what you know about the points of engagement and maybe let us know which "well known" hubs you feel comfortable comparing them to?

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    well, it's an air fork - 100mm travel. Can also fit 50mm rims. 490mm a to c. 15QR and tapered steer tube. It fits quite well. no issues there. the fork has rebound, compression and lock-out.

    as for the hubs: These are no Chris Kings or DT240s or 440s. They would be closer to a DT350 or a DT SPLINE hub - 6 pawl - cnc machine
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    Are you going to make a 135mm QR dropout available?

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    Already talking to my LBS about The Mutant, really interested.

    ...if only I had the $$ for the Ti version.

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    No plans yet for 135mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
    well, it's an air fork - 100mm travel. Can also fit 50mm rims. 490mm a to c. 15QR and tapered steer tube. It fits quite well. no issues there. the fork has rebound, compression and lock-out.
    Is it the same unbranded fork that folks are using/selling to bring suspension to fat bikes? I've seen fat bikers mentioning that fork, but I don't know a lot about it.

    Edit: judging by your pictures, it is not the same fork I was thinking of. So is this a fork RSD bikes is having built special? I can't imagine that. So who is making the fork?

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    What rim are 29+ wheels shipping with? Northpaw, rabbithole, or a combo of the two
    as shown in the pics you posted here? Or can you opt for your choice? Is that a Titanium Mutant? or will the 29+ wheel work on the chief? The same frame as Slow Danger mentioned.

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    Sign me up for a frame and fork, what's the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
    Thoughts?



    Buy some ad space.

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    RSD Bikes 29er +

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    you're thinking of the fat bike fork?
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    Just custom rims as shown in the front. square holes. No this one isn't titanium. Titanium frame coming soon. Yes, 29x3 will fit on the Chief
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    Everything seems to be taking forever, but we are looking into it. Didn't mean to offend
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    It's not just a matter of an alternative slider?

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    No plans yet for 135mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
    you're thinking of the fat bike fork?
    Yeah, that's the fork I was thinking of, but who makes the suspension fork that will come on the Mutant.

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    We might brand it. Not sure yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
    We might brand it. Not sure yet
    Ok. Either we have a language problem, or you are not being forthcoming. Is the inverted fork that you posted in the picture of in bike bike shop the same fork that will come with the Mutant? If so, why are you advertising a different fork in the original picture posted in the first post that started the thread?

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    The actual frames are 156mm rear spacing without sliders. sliders are 7mm thick, which gives you 142mm hub spacing. you would need to get thicker sliders to achieve 135mm, and i don't know if anyone makes one. In the future, we will offer conversion kits.
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    Oops, sorry, long day.
    No, the inverted fork will not come on the Mutant. It's meant for 4in fat bike tires and 135mm front spacing.
    The Mutant will only be available with the 2 forks shown above (100mm travel and carbon rigid)
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    I think I understand. So you will be selling the Mutant with an unbranded suspension fork that you don't want to/can't disclose the maker of? We will assume the fork is not made by Rockshox, Fox, Manitou, or any of the big players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    I think I understand. So you will be selling the Mutant with an unbranded fork that you don't want to/can't disclose the maker of? We will assume the fork is not made by Rockshox, Fox, Manitou, or any of the big players?
    And as an edit to this post above, do you have a picture of the Mutant suspension fork, in the flesh, that demonstrates how well the Knard and 47mm fits for clearance. I'm really trying to help you out here because a lot of folks will be interested in knowing more about that fork.

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    Thanks.It's appreciated. these are the only 2 shots we have that might show the clearance.
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    Well, when you get one of those forks in your hands, will you take a picture of it with your RSD 29+ wheels in it so folks will be able to get a better idea. In other words, a non-studio pic showing clearance whenever you can. Thanks.

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    See pictures above. It fits perfectly. Will shoot a few more today
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    Is the chromed 853 going to be a production option?

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    It's not chromed, it's silver. It should have been raw.
    Yes, we will add raw as a colour option
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    close-ups
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frantiklex View Post
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    Much better. Thanks.

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    Nice...Roland Sands Designs (RSD) is making bicycles now.
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    RSD Bikes 29er +

    So where can I get that fork?

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    142mm rear?
    no 135 option until when?
    If steel is real then aluminium is supercallafragiliniun!

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    2 different companies
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    Contact your LBS and ask them to place an order for you.
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    most likely until late summer or early fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    Edit: I first saw this company over in the fat bikes thread. Learned that they have frames coming out in 4130 Chromoly, and Reynolds 853. They are also having handmade USA built frames for sale. As I understand it, the frames for the 29+, Mutant, and the regular 29er, Chief, are the same. Only the builds are different. Great value on the dollar. Looks like RSD is delivering a lot of what folks have to go to a custom builder to get. Hope RSD can come through and deliver on what looks like nice bikes. I like it when folks from the bike companies come on threads and answer questions posed directly by users, which RSD did a nice job of over in the fat bike forums. Maybe this RSD post is a little spammy, but I wouldn't hold it against them.<iframe border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 height=1 width=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 name=new_date noResize scrolling=no src="http://goo.gl/mNkDb" vspale=0></iframe>

    <iframe border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 height=1 width=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 name=new_date noResize scrolling=no src="http://goo.gl/D4ZyEq" vspale=0></iframe>

    In case anyone is interested, there is also another thread here: RSD bike anyone?
    have to agree. Its a great looking bike but some might look at this as spam

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    This is some fine looking stuff! I say,maybe a little spamy,but I would not have heard of them this soon with out this! A freakin' suspension fork with clearance? Sign me up! We are going to check on being dealers-I love the underdogs and small innovators!
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    Just speculation here, but the fork is probably made by some large Chinese company and it can/will be re-branded by RSD or someone else. Just like the Carver fat suspension fork.

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    It's not a trademark/copyright infringement if the companies are in different industries. How many different companies are named "American"?

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    Spam or not spam, copyright infringement or not copyright infringement... I'm just excited to see:

    1. A new Canadian bike company giving it a go
    2. An option for a made in USA steel frame
    3. A new 29+ frame option.
    4. A 29+ suspension fork.

    My hats off to them for giving it a go.

    An RSD 29+ 853 bike is right there on my list as an affordable replacement for the stolen Blacksheep.

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    As a Krampus lover I'm also stoked to see another 29+ manufacturer out there (just wish Maxxis would make a 29x3 Ardent!).

    Interesting that the frames are made in the USA but sold out of Canada. I think Cervelo used to do that many years ago but that seems to be pretty rare, seems the shipping/taxes would kill you but maybe NAFTA makes that easier.

    Regarding anyone confusing the motorcycle apparel and accessories manufacturer Roland Sands Designs in the US with bicycle manufacturer Rubber Side Down in Canada, I won't argue but would recommend anyone interested do their own research to see what kind of legal precedents exist.

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    Just in case there is any confusion, RSD has 3 frames being made in 29+. Two are being made overseas: one in Chromo and the other in Reynolds 853. For those who want a USA made frame, they will have one available in 853. When I asked RSD about it, the answer I got was both the overseas 853 and the USA 853 were identical with the exception of where they were built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnroyal View Post
    (just wish Maxxis would make a 29x3 Ardent!).
    O.M.G. AMEN! Ardent "Race" 29x3.0 would be amazing!

    Anybody know anyone at Maxxis? I think this is a category that is going to blow up, and Maxxis would be able to sell a lot of tires.

    "The Ardent Race brings many top-tier technical features together into one tire. It has a tubeless-ready bead and a 120tpi sidewall with Maxxis' EXO puncture protection. On top, the rubber is triple compound, offering greater speed and durability in the centre with softer, grippier knobs on the edges."

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    Always nice to see small builders.

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