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    Raijin Build Thread

    It begins...
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    I clicked for pics.....dammit, now I have to go and work instead of admiring the build.

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    Sorry... couldn't contain myself. Build and a flood of pics tonight. I tried posting a photo but I'm mobile.
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    Teasers:
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    That chainstay plate is HAWT, and do I spy etched logo's.....

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    very nice...VERY similar to geo on my Ti frame if i adjust for same fork size. never even heard of this bike till your post - good call

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    Thanks, Fo (never thought I'd say that)... I'm pretty stoked.
    Figuring she might want to get to know the town a bit, I took her up to an overlook of downtown Austin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koppuh Klyde View Post
    The next pic gonna be you laying in bed w/ it smoking a post coital cigarette?

    Thats my way of subscribing.
    I'd rather pass than explain that one to my wife.

    I did try to take her pic in front of the Jack at the liquor store (selecting my build fuel), but dood wasn't having it.
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    The next pic gonna be you laying in bed w/ it smoking a post coital cigarette?

    Thats my way of subscribing.
    I'm a ******bag in real life so I dont have to be one on the interwebz.

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    Bummer about the non-PM brake non-drive side hanger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Bummer about the non-PM brake non-drive side hanger.
    yup... that and the PF30 are my only complaints, but i ain't about to let them fizzle my woo woo.

    i talked to Kona about it and what's pictured on the proto is a Big Unit dropout that isn't quite available yet, but you'd better bet that I'm already on the list.

    i've been tired of 4-bolt caliper mounting for a looooooooooong time. ever since brake mfrs standardized on PM to make front and rear calipers interchangeable (a smart move, IMO).
    if only bike mfrs would follow suit...
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    my local liquor vendor was much cooler... and had a better countertop
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    Can't wait for the build pics. Awesome frame, congrats!

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    Dear meltingfeather, can you tell me what is that size,
    Fantastic frame, congrats!

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    showed her how we do tomatoes in the lone star state
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    My 18" frame weighs 4 lbs. 7 oz. (2,013 g). I can't remember if it still had the extra slider on it... I think so, actually.
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    Almost complete... just need to strap up the brake hose and go over everything.
    18.5 lbs. (8,391 g) ready to ride with her light shoes on (2.2 Ravens, F/R)
    19.06 lbs. (8,646 g) as pictured
    Don't worry, AZ... it's a "road bike"




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    other pertinent info:




    sliders all the way forward:


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    Nancy wides are on the way as well.
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    Sweet Build, I like my FORM more but i think your supposed to like the thing you blew a lot of money on. Chainstay bridge piece is a cool feature

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    Looks great MF. The Niner fork is a nice match. And thanks for the measurements - I was thinking of leaving my Reba at 120mm out of curiosity but I'm now thinking it would be a waste of time (i.e. standover issues).
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    Dear meltingfeather
    can you measure, from center to top seat tube for me, please !!!

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    Very nice looking bike.......18.5 what a great weight.

    Great tour of Austin before the build to show it home. I love mine. Have fun with it....Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by grigorij View Post
    dear meltingfeather
    can you measure, from center to top seat tube for me, please !!!
    18"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Sweet Build,
    back at ya
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    I like my FORM more
    well then I hope you like it more than twice as much.
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    Wow, 18.5!! My 20 weighs in at 24 !!

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    I am pretty impressed. This frame carries more features from the Lynskey Pro29 SL...the chainstay plate and tire clearance is impressive! I am just not a fan of press-fit, but for someone that wants that..its obviously a better option!
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    Almost complete... just need to strap up the brake hose and go over everything.
    18.5 lbs. (8,391 g) ready to ride with her light shoes on (2.2 Ravens, F/R)
    19.06 lbs. (8,646 g) as pictured
    Don't worry, AZ... it's a "road bike"




    i hate the people that criticize a sweet build so apologies in advance, but i LOVE the bike, HATE the fork. at that weight you could put a proper fork on it either rigid or suspension and still be way ahead of the game. again, sorry

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    What would you call a proper rigid fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edapp View Post
    What would you call a proper rigid fork?
    i have been out of the loop for a couple years but not enuf out of the loop to say that such a fork (carbon, niner especially) is stupid. i have owned carbon forks and it was cool but c'mon, at that light weight and as i understand it (though i could be wrong), that frame is designed around a 100mm suspension fork, right? anyway, a steel fork of some sort and frankly, other than the AC proper (probably would do at 100mm sagged AC but i am an idiot) it doesnt matter. even e "heavy" steel fork would still leave you with a light arse bike and your teeth and looking less retarted

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    I am pretty impressed. This frame carries more features from the Lynskey Pro29 SL...the chainstay plate and tire clearance is impressive! I am just not a fan of press-fit, but for someone that wants that..its obviously a better option!
    not a fan either.

    here's what I did:


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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle View Post
    i have been out of the loop for a couple years but not enuf out of the loop to say that such a fork (carbon, niner especially) is stupid. i have owned carbon forks and it was cool but c'mon, at that light weight and as i understand it (though i could be wrong), that frame is designed around a 100mm suspension fork, right? anyway, a steel fork of some sort and frankly, other than the AC proper (probably would do at 100mm sagged AC but i am an idiot) it doesnt matter. even e "heavy" steel fork would still leave you with a light arse bike and your teeth and looking less retarted
    i realize you need to pose and all that, and i hope you're getting the attention you crave, but your post and attitude are stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    i realize you need to pose and all that, and i hope you're getting the attention you crave, but your post and attitude are stupid.
    what are you talking about? i get plenty of attention. your fork is idiotic in my genuine opinion and contrary to popular belief, my subjective opinion is as valid as your precious opinion, which of course is strongly associated with your retarded purchase already being closed thus, of course defending said retarded purchase...so i understand but regardless, a carbon fork is idiotic

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle View Post
    your fork is idiotic in my genuine opinion and contrary to popular belief, my subjective opinion is as valid as your precious opinion, which of course is strongly associated with your retarded purchase already being closed thus, of course defending said retarded purchase...so i understand but regardless, a carbon fork is idiotic
    i was just expressing my opinion of your opinion, which is actually quite a bit more valid than your original opinion because it is mine.
    thanks for sharing your input on my equipment choice. it is much appreciated and will be taken into consideration at a future date, once it is deemed valid enough.


    p.s. my opinion is also 100% genuine and with a sound basis in fact
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    I knew you can always install the adapter, cool you went that route! I didn't say having a PF30 was a negative at all. I am actually appreciating the work that Lynskey is doing for Kona..but more so the design that Kona implemented to differentiate theirs from Lynskey. They did a better job of doing so than Salsa and Vassago IMO.

    I think they took a really intelligent approach with the PF30 and also chainstay plate and increased width to accept wider tires. Laser etched graphics are great too!

    I just bought a Pro29 SL, and I am so far very happy with it despite the small hiccups I've had from parts around it that I've had since I have bought it. To me, studying the frame, much of the aspects that are on the PRO29 SL are on this frame with the exception of the PF30 and Helix which leads me to believe that this is going to be a fantastic frame!

    One thing I have had problems with is the bolts for the sliders. I have ordered the Socket head complete set from Paragon..waiting for them to arrive, but I started getting a good bit of creaking halfway in on a 6hr. race 3 weeks ago...maybe something you'd like to look into as well. The sliders never moved with the original bolts..just a little creaking is all...Anyways...congrats on the bike!

    BTW...maybe its just me, but is this bike available for sale..i don't see it on the website :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    I knew you can always install the adapter, cool you went that route!
    I'm not really a fan of adapters, which is why the only two things I'm not totally stoked on with the frame are the two parts I need adapters for: the rear caliper & the crank.
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    I didn't say having a PF30 was a negative at all. I am actually appreciating the work that Lynskey is doing for Kona..but more so the design that Kona implemented to differentiate theirs from Lynskey. They did a better job of doing so than Salsa and Vassago IMO.

    I think they took a really intelligent approach with the PF30 and also chainstay plate and increased width to accept wider tires. Laser etched graphics are great too!
    really interesting to hear this perspective.

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    I just bought a Pro29 SL, and I am so far very happy with it despite the small hiccups I've had from parts around it that I've had since I have bought it. To me, studying the frame, much of the aspects that are on the PRO29 SL are on this frame with the exception of the PF30 and Helix which leads me to believe that this is going to be a fantastic frame!
    i'm hoping so. the Pro29 SL is definitely sweet...
    for me this frame was really a perfect combination of almost every factor. as soon as I saw it I was decided... no brainer. I've been a fan of both Lynskey and Kona for a long time and have been sort of passively looking for a "dream frame" to replace my Soma Juice (nothing wrong with it... you know how that story goes). boom.
    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    One thing I have had problems with is the bolts for the sliders. I have ordered the Socket head complete set from Paragon..waiting for them to arrive, but I started getting a good bit of creaking halfway in on a 6hr. race 3 weeks ago...maybe something you'd like to look into as well. The sliders never moved with the original bolts..just a little creaking is all...
    good to know. i'll keep an eye on them.
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    Anyways...congrats on the bike!
    thanks! back at ya.
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    BTW...maybe its just me, but is this bike available for sale..i don't see it on the website :/
    I have no idea, but my speculation is that they didn't bother because it's a mid-model-year frame with a limited production run that they probably anticipated would be gone or nearly gone before it ever hit the floor. I know every one that our shop ordered was spoken for almost immediately... in February.
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    Wow FoShizzle, you can be such a doofus.

    How can anyone not love this bike? Normally I would kill for such a bike, but fortunately I have a Ti singlespeed too. Yes it has a CF fork, like my previous 2 singlespeed bikes. These "idiotic" forks served me well in almost 100 races over many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    Wow FoShizzle, you can be such a doofus.

    How can anyone not love this bike? Normally I would kill for such a bike, but fortunately I have a Ti singlespeed too. Yes it has a CF fork, like my previous 2 singlespeed bikes. These "idiotic" forks served me well in almost 100 races over many years.
    well sir, you are lucky to be alive. maybe i am just such a tool cuz its the Ninerbikes fork and LyNx didnt like Niner so i couldnt either. I had the Pace carbon fork and it looked cool and worked well...on my ninerbike

    i have a Ti hardtail now, my only bike, but am no longer man enuf to have a rigid fork of any material but certainly wouldnt get carbon if i did. doesnt mean others cant, or shouldnt, just speaking for myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    I have no idea, but my speculation is that they didn't bother because it's a mid-model-year frame with a limited production run that they probably anticipated would be gone or nearly gone before it ever hit the floor. I know every one that our shop ordered was spoken for almost immediately... in February.
    I don't have a problem with Kona getting bikes made from Lynskey, heck they know they are getting quality that is handmade here in the states! When I purchased my frame/fork/headset/post (Leap Day Sale) The dealer, a friend, local rider complained how manufacturing for other companies such as Kona and Salsa has hurt his business. Not in sales but availability. Lynskey is pretty much down to doing quarterly runs on their stock frames, and everything else is custom or building for another company which makes it hard for him and other dealers to get frames in a decent time frame. A few years back, if he wanted a frame, I called in the order and it was max 3 weeks and the frame was being built up locally. Now its 3-6 months. I completely understand from a profit perspective, they can get pretty consistent work by being an outsource company, but living in the "NOW" generation, people don't want to wait..and I am afraid they are missing out on sales with their name on it. For the seller here, this whole situation puts a bind on his business.

    I was incredibly lucky because I caught the deal right as a product run was getting completed en lieu of the sale that was happening. Him having the seller status that he does, was able to secure a frame for me in the timeline I requested. So for me, I'm a happy camper, but I want everyone to be able to have the same purchasing experience I did. I don't think it should be a case-by-case basis, and as much as I like your frame...I do have my reservations about them being the outsource builder for others in that respect. I think it should be a "limited run" basis for all the outsource frames, and Lynskey should be trying to be pushing the product with their name on it out as a priority. Simply because their name and logo is connected to their reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdryver View Post
    I don't have a problem with Kona getting bikes made from Lynskey, heck they know they are getting quality that is handmade here in the states! When I purchased my frame/fork/headset/post (Leap Day Sale) The dealer, a friend, local rider complained how manufacturing for other companies such as Kona and Salsa has hurt his business. Not in sales but availability. Lynskey is pretty much down to doing quarterly runs on their stock frames, and everything else is custom or building for another company which makes it hard for him and other dealers to get frames in a decent time frame. A few years back, if he wanted a frame, I called in the order and it was max 3 weeks and the frame was being built up locally. Now its 3-6 months. I completely understand from a profit perspective, they can get pretty consistent work by being an outsource company, but living in the "NOW" generation, people don't want to wait..and I am afraid they are missing out on sales with their name on it. For the seller here, this whole situation puts a bind on his business.

    I was incredibly lucky because I caught the deal right as a product run was getting completed en lieu of the sale that was happening. Him having the seller status that he does, was able to secure a frame for me in the timeline I requested. So for me, I'm a happy camper, but I want everyone to be able to have the same purchasing experience I did. I don't think it should be a case-by-case basis, and as much as I like your frame...I do have my reservations about them being the outsource builder for others in that respect. I think it should be a "limited run" basis for all the outsource frames.
    well... i tend to think people can run their businesses as they see fit, so i don't have an opinion on what the Lynskeys should be doing, but if one of his dealers has a problem with the outsourcing, the most appropriate audience for that concern is probably David Lynskey.
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    I had forgotten what an idiot Fo was, until this thread. Fo, if you don't have anything constructive to say. Please go away.

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    Nice bike!

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    a real beauty! awesome looking ride....congrats

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    I am embracing the Press Fit. I just wish I could ream out that huge seat tube to get my reverb post in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo Troll View Post
    I had forgotten what an idiot Fo was, until this thread. Fo, if you don't have anything constructive to say. Please go away.
    clearly i was away too long if you forgot that. i will make it a priority to carpet bomb the 29er forum with my infinite wisdom so you dont forget again. thx for the encouragement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    well... i tend to think people can run their businesses as they see fit, so i don't have an opinion on what the Lynskeys should be doing, but if one of his dealers has a problem with the outsourcing, the most appropriate audience for that concern is probably David Lynskey.
    agreed. Lynskey, as opposed to many companies, has a good business model and actually realizes that making money affords him the ability to remain in the business - a novel idea. he is great to work with and i have owned both frames directly from him as well as another he makes for a company. God forbid he is more than a 1 man frame builder company who doesnt smoke pot...get with the program Mark!

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    Good job! Post Mount Dropout

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    I'd hazard a guess that those are the same dropouts that are on the Nimble 9 (being split slot) and their post mount brake dropout would fit. They also use the same size bolts as Paragon (M8 and M5)...

    If you have someone local w/a Nimble 9, it would be pretty easy to confirm. I think they sell the post mount dropout for $45...

    Awesome bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by classrc View Post
    I'd hazard a guess that those are the same dropouts that are on the Nimble 9 (being split slot) and their post mount brake dropout would fit. They also use the same size bolts as Paragon (M8 and M5)...

    If you have someone local w/a Nimble 9, it would be pretty easy to confirm. I think they sell the post mount dropout for $45...
    A previous post from someone at/near Kona said the post mount dropout is coming very soon. Kona already stocks them (in black) on their Big Unit, so I'd guess its just a matter of manufacturing.
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    scuze my ignorance: whats the chainstay plate for? does it have anything to do with the frame material?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdenn View Post
    scuze my ignorance: whats the chainstay plate for? does it have anything to do with the frame material?
    I'd imagine it's for chainring/tyre clearance due to the short stays
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    Does anyone know where to order that frame, what are the geometry specs (sizes), prices, etc. No info on this at Kona's web site, and the dealer listed on their dealer page located nearest me, hasn't heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wcsting View Post
    Does anyone know where to order that frame, what are the geometry specs (sizes), prices, etc. No info on this at Kona's web site, and the dealer listed on their dealer page located nearest me, hasn't heard of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    not a fan either.

    here's what I did:


    MF, Is that a PF adapter with a GXP BB in it? (I'm a novice at this stuff) Do you know if this would work with a ONE DOS from White industries? I am guessing I would I need their BB
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    and then their crankset...the double/double at the bottom of this page:
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    Then, what was your solution for the rear brakes?

    TIA, and sorry for hijacking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wcsting View Post
    MF, Is that a PF adapter with a GXP BB in it? (I'm a novice at this stuff) Do you know if this would work with a ONE DOS from White industries? I am guessing I would I need their BB
    White Industries BB
    and then their crankset...the double/double at the bottom of this page:
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    That is a SRAM adapter that converts a PF30 to a "normal" english-threaded bottom bracket.

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    Then, what was your solution for the rear brakes?

    TIA, and sorry for hijacking...
    If you mean the IS/PM "issue" it wasn't really a problem... I just don't like the silly 4-bolt caliper mounting since brake manufacturers standardized calipers on PM (good move). The frame this build came off of was IS, so I just bolted it up.
    As soon as a PM slider is available I'll be all over it. I'm probably going to explore the Canfiled option if it takes Kona too long.
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    Put my order in today, paid deposit. It should arrive late in the Summer I guess. Enough time to start buying parts.

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    Here's my build.

    Still want to add a few things here and there on it. I'm looking at the Lynskey ti post. Also Thomson has finally released their ti handlebars so I'll be looking into those as well.
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    Raijin

    I also have an 18" Raijin on order. Dealer tells me it will be end of June or early July arrival. Was planning on building another Unit but decided I wasn't getting any younger and the dream bike time is now.

    I've got 6-8 weeks to draw up a components list and get it all bought. Going to start with a Fox squishy, and it will be a SS.

    LOVE seeing the pics of the builds, keep 'em coming!

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    Let's see 'em!
    Here's another shot of La Supra.



    Took her up to the shop for demos and to spread some sponsor beer love... ended up putting some real grips on. My ESI experiment didn't go well. Don't know why I bothered.


    That second photo is well-buzzed, iPhone junk... just wanted one with the Ourys.

    She feels fantastic on the trail. Still feeling her out but diggin' it all the way.
    Major kudos to Kona and Lynskey for this project.


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    Nice.
    What issues did you have with the ESI's?
    They are my all time favourite grip (and Oury's are my all time least favourite).

    PS, ignore Fo.
    He is from California, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Nice.
    What issues did you have with the ESI's?
    They are my all time favourite grip (and Oury's are my all time least favourite).
    Hands slipped twice.
    Done deal.
    Ourys are like bubble gum.

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    No problems there.
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    Yep, also hate ESIs--they compress all the way down to the bar practically, and weren't very grippy.

    For larger hands like mine, the lock-on rogues are great (not as gushy as the non-lock on) but a lighter option that works really well are the thickish, dual density Specialized grips.

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    That's a great looking bike MF.

    And good advice on the Esi grips, I've been meaning to pick up a pair but just can't commit. But I've been lately finding the ODI Rogue and Ourys lock-ons a bit much and just installed some ODI SDG lock-ons, hopefully these will be better. They are between the Ruffians and the Rogues.
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    no-nonsense trail build [20" Raijin]

    After an initial street ride last night, I think the fork at 120mm may work out nicely. Steering seemed sufficiently responsive, front-end felt adequately weighted, and the 12.7" BB is hardly too tall for my uber-rocky trails. 110F heat predicted tomorrow but will ride anyway.

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    Looks great. Driveside pic please! How did the E13 bb/crank install go? I've heard bad things.
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    112F today and its not even summer...

    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Looks great. Driveside pic please! How did the E13 bb/crank install go? I've heard bad things.
    Thanks. My shop installed the crank/BB. The mechanic's only mention of it was to tell me how much he liked the crank and had decided to buy one for himself. Did you hear the install is tricky, or that reliability issues insued afterwards?

    The xloc remote needs a longer hose especially now that I've moved a second spacer below the stem and plan to get a wider bar (711mm somehow felt narrow today). Great bike and fits great. Just what I wanted.
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    Thread bump

    How are getting on with your Raijin?

    I'm hoping to get one and will build very similar to yours

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    Looking good! I'm loving mine still...haven't taken any new pictures lately, too busy ripping it!
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    I ride a 2012 Lynskey pro 29 SL and love it. I saw the raigin frame at a local bike shop in Durango, and have to say that I would have bought it in a heartbeat had it been released. Really a nice frame. I keep thinking I need it every time I see it, and I saw it again today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    How are getting on with your Raijin?

    I'm hoping to get one and will build very similar to yours
    I wasn't digging it and then I destroyed the rear deraileur and hanger. The gears weren't helping me anyhow so I changed it to a single speed and dropped the fork from 120mm to 100mm. Still not sold so I've gone back to riding my rigid Kona Unit full time. The Raijin's a great frame - I just like riding rigid. I'm thinking of ordering a custom Waltworks steel fork to match it. Or selling it.
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    Ugh, sorry to hear things haven't worked out. The build looked spot on (and for what I would build too)

    You know I ride my rigid Wolfhound more and more, the custom steel By:Stickle sits at home more, and the FS never sees light from the shed

    However, the ti itch has nagging for too long now, and now a frame at this price point has come around, I'll give it a go

    Hope everything works out for you

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    Meltingfeather - my Raijin arrives this week and I am considering the Niner carbon fork to pair with it. Could you post up your impressions of its performance? Many thanks, they would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    Meltingfeather - my Raijin arrives this week and I am considering the Niner carbon fork to pair with it. Could you post up your impressions of its performance? Many thanks, they would be appreciated
    I'm not one for detailed impressions. I like it... a lot. The Raijin + Niner is the best riding bike I've been on. I loved my Juice but the Raijin blows it away.
    Geo with the Niner feels great to me. Steering is as fast as I want it to to be but it feels very stable downhill. It's light in the front and easy to lift/loft in tech/air.
    I was going to get a moondust tapered fork just because I think the moondust looks killer with the Ti and I could "upgrade" to tapered at the same time. No dice... they don't make that combo... I guess because there are no moondust tapered-compatible Niner frames. Oh well.
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    It was the fork I was really interested in, on this bike, which you've nutshelled well. Thanks

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    I also have the niner cf on my pro 29 sl and love the way it handles. 2.4 ardent @ 28-30 psi tubeless and good to go. I thought it would beat me up, but wanted to try it anyway. Pleasantly surprised how supple it is.
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    So I have had a Raijin since the debut last spring.....sold my carbon SS and bought another to build up single speed!

    19.5 lbs with a 20" frame, I9 wheels and a Whisky carbon fork.
    Feels a bit more XC then my other "all mountain" Raijin that is built up 1x10, 120mm fork, dropper post and I9 wheels.

    This rides like my carbon SS without the creaking lol!
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    Looks a very nice ride. What Whisky fork did you go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    How are getting on with your Raijin?

    I'm hoping to get one and will build very similar to yours
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    I wasn't digging it and then I destroyed the rear deraileur and hanger. The gears weren't helping me anyhow so I changed it to a single speed and dropped the fork from 120mm to 100mm. Still not sold so I've gone back to riding my rigid Kona Unit full time. The Raijin's a great frame - I just like riding rigid. I'm thinking of ordering a custom Waltworks steel fork to match it. Or selling it.
    I tweaked the cockpit higher and rearward and started using the lockout more, and now like the Raijin quite a bit. The bars are now 2" above the saddle but strangely hasn't hurt the handling. Instead, I feel more centered in the bike, allowing me to control the bike with small body shifts (like my Unit).

    On seated climbs, the front end floats over stuff nicely. On standing climbs, my body is in a more efficient position and the fork (when locked out) is more likely to remain locked out (a big help). In all situations, the bike feels quicker to respond at the pedals. It's a fun bike and (now) faster than my Unit. I like the 740mm bars, too.
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    Great news. It would be such a shame not to get on with such a bike. Here's the start of mine - frame's arriving tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    Looks a very nice ride. What Whisky fork did you go with?
    I am using the Whisky 7 with the tapered steerer and bladed legs. This is my 2nd Whisky fork and really happy with their product so far.

    Funny you picked up a MRP Bling Ring, I have a 32t sitting at home
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    Great news. It would be such a shame not to get on with such a bike. Here's the start of mine - frame's arriving tomorrow
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    Yes, I run all my rides this way this 30T up front. Seems to work just perfectly for me - climb anything and doesn't spin out on the way to and from the trail.

    Used to run Middleburns, but with the PF30 thought I would give the AKA's ago - didn't realise they are std crank dia so I'll need a Sram Press Fit 30 To BSA Adapter. Fitted a PF30 before finding out, and delaying the build another day or so



    Very meaty looking DT



    I was worried about the drop out clamp bolts - siezing and rounding etc, but these look as if they stand up better to most I've seen, like the smaller dome headed steel bolts




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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    not a fan either.

    here's what I did:


    Oh yeah, that's the way I'd go in an XL in one of these if I could build it up 3 x 9 with a 100mm fork. What's the head tube angle with a marzocchi set at 100mm?

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    This thread needs more photos.

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    Here's mine - 1st ride coming up today...

    Niner RDO
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    1x9 X-9 Sram, Truvativ AKA with 30T Bling Ring, Paul keeper
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    Treated her to some new XT brakes

    Not the lightest of builds, but good and solid - as pictured 25 Lbs





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    Looks great! What's up with the electrical tape? Just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Looks great! What's up with the electrical tape? Just curious...
    LOL! It keeps the end of the bar tape in place



    God this bike's FAST. Well impressed so far. On a couple of occasions I felt the bike running away from me. It builds speed very easily and very quickly. Makes my other bikes seem like plodders by comparison

    Other thing, very confidence inspiring. I thought it felt a little 'steep' angle wise first off, but no worries at all, steep up or steep down, just likes being ragged about etc. I know it all sounds like the regular stuff you hear, but this bike really is VERY fast compared to everything else I've owned/ridden

    It has flex too which is what I was after. Standing side on on a pedal you can see a good deal of movement in the CS/BB which all translates to good compliancy and comfort.

    I guess you could summerise as flattering, fast & fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    Here's mine - 1st ride coming up today...
    Sweet! I would love that bike! It does seem heavy though, without any one part standing out as the culprit. If the frame is 4.5 lbs, its pretty stout for ti.

    Looking forward to your review and thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    Sweet! I would love that bike! It does seem heavy though, without any one part standing out as the culprit. If the frame is 4.5 lbs, its pretty stout for ti.

    Looking forward to your review and thoughts.
    Have to say I was surprised at weigh in.

    Could those Nobby Nic 2.4's be the lard on top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    Sweet! I would love that bike! It does seem heavy though, without any one part standing out as the culprit.
    Those grips are probably a pound of it... seriously.
    A nice, solid build though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    Those grips are probably a pound of it... seriously.
    A nice, solid build though.
    LOL - 102 grms each, with bar ends - so that's just 1/2 lb. Where the heck's the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonesetter2004 View Post
    LOL - 102 grms each, with bar ends - so that's just 1/2 lb. Where the heck's the rest
    ah... a pair of those (Ergons?) I tried a number of years ago were over 400g. They must have made some improvements.

    The Nobby Nics are heavy... don't have any data points on the 2.4s yet, but the 2.35s average 760g each. That cassette is heavy... as is your chain. Straight gauge spokes?

    I'll admit it's a bit tough to see... my medium SS is 18.5 with her light shoes on (2.2 Ravens).
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