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    Well I ordered a 2014 18" Today. Agonized over 18/19, I am smidge under 5' 10" with about 32" cycling inseam, I think I could ride either.. gonna run wider bars so hopefully 18 will be right /long enough. Working on build, SS XTR cranks Brakes, 240s and Arches and Chris Kind BB and Headset, Reba 100mm Fork. Will shoot a pic when put together. Thanks folks!

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    Been loving mine...



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    I'm 5' 9 1/2" with a 31 inseam, and the 18 is perfect. You could always tweak it with a stem or setback seat post. It'll probably fit you great out of the box, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvader View Post
    Well I ordered a 2014 18" Today. Agonized over 18/19, I am smidge under 5' 10" with about 32" cycling inseam, I think I could ride either.. gonna run wider bars so hopefully 18 will be right /long enough. Working on build, SS XTR cranks Brakes, 240s and Arches and Chris Kind BB and Headset, Reba 100mm Fork. Will shoot a pic when put together. Thanks folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmed View Post
    I'm 5' 9 1/2" with a 31 inseam, and the 18 is perfect. You could always tweak it with a stem or setback seat post. It'll probably fit you great out of the box, though.
    Thanks Guys but Ugh...

    Had my heart set on the 2014 Graphics...2014 18s are out (Some confusion on my part) ... Local shop has a 2013... with the banner style Kona on downtube...not sure why... but I am struggling with it... I am the guy that usually says don't let the little aesthetics bug you... but then again this is my Ti baby...other than that the frames are identical...decisions...

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    I think the 2014 has a 12/142 rear axle set up and my 2013 has a standard 135 QR. But yes the frame build/geometry is the same, only the graphics and the replaceable drop outs are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvader View Post
    Thanks Guys but Ugh...

    Had my heart set on the 2014 Graphics...2014 18s are out (Some confusion on my part) ... Local shop has a 2013... with the banner style Kona on downtube...not sure why... but I am struggling with it... I am the guy that usually says don't let the little aesthetics bug you... but then again this is my Ti baby...other than that the frames are identical...decisions...
    I think the banner style looks great too. The fact it is etched makes it a bit more subtle than a painted banner. I'd think the 18 would be a good fit for you. I have an 18 and it's on the larger side of good for me (I'm 5'9"), but feels good with a 55mm stem. Have you hopped on one? I live in Redondo Beach, but often ride in the OC on the weekends.

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    Awesome builds here. Wondering a few things:

    Is everyone using these as XC bikes? Anyone using it as a semi-AM bike with perhaps a 120mm fork?

    Anybody got any more info on the Ti Honzo mentioned a few replies back?

    Thanks

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    I'm definitely using mine as a semi AM bike and love it as such. i run a dropper post and will take it on the more gnarly trails or when go somewhere new. It works great for me there cuz it is smoother than my carbon hardtail, but climbs much better than a full suspension. as far as fork, actually intended to run 120mm fork as the shop manager where i bought it does the same thing and suggested i do too. but i ended up using the fork elsewhere and i think the stand over would have ended up too tall for me. so the 100mm i use is fine.

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    I'm in the middle of building mine as an AM hardtail singlespeed. 120mm Fox fork, 750mm bar, 60mm stem, mavic crossmax ST wheelset and Ardent 2.4 front and rear. With the 120 fork on a Large frame the head tube angle is 69 degrees.....should be a really fun geometry and setup...I hope!

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    Awesome, shoot some pics and let us know how it goes.

    How tall are you? What's your saddle height from BB to top of saddle? Just trying to decide on size.

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonHH View Post
    I'm in the middle of building mine as an AM hardtail singlespeed. 120mm Fox fork, 750mm bar, 60mm stem, mavic crossmax ST wheelset and Ardent 2.4 front and rear. With the 120 fork on a Large frame the head tube angle is 69 degrees.....should be a really fun geometry and setup...I hope!

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    I'm just a hair over 6 feet tall. Went with a 20" frame. Haven't put the saddle and seatpost on yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by fleanutz View Post
    Awesome, shoot some pics and let us know how it goes.

    How tall are you? What's your saddle height from BB to top of saddle? Just trying to decide on size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvader View Post
    Thanks Guys but Ugh...

    Had my heart set on the 2014 Graphics...2014 18s are out (Some confusion on my part) ... Local shop has a 2013... with the banner style Kona on downtube...not sure why... but I am struggling with it... I am the guy that usually says don't let the little aesthetics bug you... but then again this is my Ti baby...other than that the frames are identical...decisions...
    Quote Originally Posted by So Cal RX View Post
    I think the banner style looks great too. The fact it is etched makes it a bit more subtle than a painted banner. I'd think the 18 would be a good fit for you. I have an 18 and it's on the larger side of good for me (I'm 5'9"), but feels good with a 55mm stem. Have you hopped on one? I live in Redondo Beach, but often ride in the OC on the weekends.
    Hey Thanks so much for the offer... so here is what happened ... I seriously scoured the west and found one that is on the way to a Shop in Tahoe, bought it, it will be here in a ~2 weeks... so I am getting exactly what I wanted so the build is on!

    Yes the banner is nice to ... not quit sure why I got so hung up / obsessed with it ... but some times I am not exactly in control of those things.

    Sizewise I did extensive comparison... compared to my existing SS rig, I think the 18 is going to fit me great (My Spec is just a tad big/long) . Probably with a 50-60mm Stem. I know numbers don't mean everything but I feel pretty good about it.

    Of course the comedy will be I went through all this and the size is not right

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    Just got mine put together, no time for a test ride even! No pics either, I'll get those tomorrow.

    Mine is in SS mode. I had a trek superfly HT but it was both super stiff and I was always afraid of breaking it.

    I took the parts off the fly and now I've got a 24 lb bike that I assume will not beat me up as much *AND* can have fun on the small stuff at the local park.

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    Here we go! 18" frame, xx1 cranks, enduro ceramic bearings, 32/18 with NSB direct mount ring and niner cogalicious rear.

    Everything else is pirated off my superfly. Weighs in a just under 24 lbs on the bathroom scale. Ride is incredible compared to the fly, so compliant but not at all noodly. Set a whole bunch of PRs on strava on the first ride.

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    So my 2014 Frame is on the waaaayyyy!!!! Should get it in a day or 2, nice Christmas present to me! I started this adventure several months ago and now is the time.

    I have a 100MM fork but I am thinking now that I want a 120... more "Trail" than Race.

    You guys with the 120... loving it? Comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvader View Post
    So my 2014 Frame is on the waaaayyyy!!!! Should get it in a day or 2, nice Christmas present to me! I started this adventure several months ago and now is the time.

    I have a 100MM fork but I am thinking now that I want a 120... more "Trail" than Race.

    You guys with the 120... loving it? Comments?
    Yes, loving the 120. The affect on climbing is negligible, and it handles nicely with it on there too. Just posted this pic in another thread, but as a So Cal guy, you'll probably recognize the location.
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    EDIT: just saw the thread was exactly what you're asking about:
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    Cool thanks...
    BTW what fork is that?
    BTW 2 just finished riding there moments ago hero dirt!

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    Manitou Tower Pro. Was $250 at Price Point!

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    Just finished my build today! 120mm fox fork, xt cranks and Surly ring and cog. XTR brakes, Easton havoc carbon bar and 70mm stem, 2.4 Ardents front and rear on Mavic Crossmax ST's. Should be a sweet "Trail" build. Weighs in at 25 and change. Too bad the trails are under snow for the next 3 months....time for a road trip.
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    Nice!... uhh Actually that's an understatement! NICE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonHH View Post
    Just finished my build today! 120mm fox fork, xt cranks and Surly ring and cog. XTR brakes, Easton havoc carbon bar and 70mm stem, 2.4 Ardents front and rear on Mavic Crossmax ST's. Should be a sweet "Trail" build. Weighs in at 25 and change. Too bad the trails are under snow for the next 3 months....time for a road trip.
    Wow!! just how much clearance is there between the rear tire and seat tube?

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    7 mm. Not bad really.

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    Raijin Build Thread-1404650780_16020-640.jpg

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    and after the race...

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    I'm going FS, anyone wants mine shoot me a PM. Not sure if I'm supposed to pay for an advert, if so I'll happily do so if anyone here is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_slacker View Post
    I'm going FS, anyone wants mine shoot me a PM. Not sure if I'm supposed to pay for an advert, if so I'll happily do so if anyone here is interested.
    My Raijin has become my all purpose and all mountain bike. That said my beautiful XL Jet-9 RDO XX1 is sitting and collecting dust. Commission to anyone who helps it find a more useful home.

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    Nice bike for sure but I think they should do the chain stay like the old Schwinn Homegrown. The same on both sides of the tire. It is possible that there is a bias between the chain stays with the plate only on one side, and it would be stronger with a symmetrical plate arrangement on both sides of the tire. Kind of like their (lynskey) twisted down tube, biased to one side probably...
    That said it is still awesome......I have two of their frames.
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    Not sure why it posted twice?

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    Absolutely loving these builds, I'm currently in the market for a Ti frame that I can run either geared or SS so the Raijin is definitely in contention...

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    Raijin Build Thread

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    Did you guys noticed that that Raijin was dropped from the Kona 2015 lineup?
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    I guess the value of mine just went up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Did you guys noticed that that Raijin was dropped from the Kona 2015 lineup?
    Scroll to the bottom. I thought the same thing, but some of the frames are way down there.

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    Damn, on the contrary, they are expanding the Ti line and now offer four different frames!

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    Thanks jacoborf for that photo. I couldn't find it after I saw thumbnail on ForoMTB.com.
    Do you have tubeless these onza, and did you weight these tires?

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    Thank you.

    These Onza tires are not tubeless. But I have assembled as they were ;-) No problems and good performance after few months xc hard riding at 1.6-1.8bar with 150ml NoTubes liquid on each. I do not remember the weight but around 600-650gr each. Bike weight is under 10kg about 9.7-9.8kg...

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    Hey guys. Second guessing what I'm selling my raijin for. What would you reasonably pay for a used raijin with XX1 cranks, king headset, 1x10 (x7 shifter x9 rear d), ea70 carbon bars/stem, and bontrager everything else including wheelset?

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    My Raijin

    I just got built up. I went all Shimano XT, including the wheels and pedals. I already had the wheels from a different bike. They are heavy but will have to do for now. Thompson seat post and just a generic Kona stem. I went with a Sid XX World Cup Fork-very light!. I got it to about 25.5 lbs. I like to get it to around 24. I'm guessing a different wheel set would do the trick. Very smooth ride!
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    UPDATE

    The Raijin hasn't been getting much love of late since the acquisition of a Stooge...

    So, I thought I would put the Niner RDO fork back on which would get me out on it again, but compared to the Stooge the front end is loads lower and makes for a completely different ride - main thing is a ton more weight on the front which makes for a slow, harsh time of things...

    So, what about going FAT front?

    Looking through this thread I see only one build and that was a stop gap off a Pugsley while waiting for another fork

    Anyone gone fat on theirs??

    I'm hoping that would 'work' in lifting the front a bit more

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    Still teetering between selling my 20" first gen Raijin or keeping it. So I took it down to the LBS and stuffed a 2.8" WTB 27.5 tire on a 30mm internal China carbon rim in there and to my surprise it fits with room to spare and this is with the sliders slammed. So I may hang onto it and do a 29+/27.5+ set up. :-)



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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Still teetering between selling my 20" first gen Raijin or keeping it.
    Not sure how you could.
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    Raijin forever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Still teetering between selling my 20" first gen Raijin or keeping it. So I took it down to the LBS and stuffed a 2.8" WTB 27.5 tire on a 30mm internal China carbon rim in there and to my surprise it fits with room to spare and this is with the sliders slammed. So I may hang onto it and do a 29+/27.5+ set up. :-)
    What metro area bike shop had that wheel and tire combo in stock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Still teetering between selling my 20" first gen Raijin or keeping it. So I took it down to the LBS and stuffed a 2.8" WTB 27.5 tire on a 30mm internal China carbon rim in there and to my surprise it fits with room to spare and this is with the sliders slammed. So I may hang onto it and do a 29+/27.5+ set up. :-)




    May you measure how width is this combo (rim + tyre). Do you know if your LBS could try it on a MootoX YBB? It's on my mind.

    Thx in advance

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    My LBS isn't a Moots dealer. I will see if I can get the measurment up. Raijin is for sale again, looking for $1K plus shipping. It's boxed up ready to rock. Don't make me build up this rocking 27.5+/29+ combo!
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    Raijin Build Thread

    Thanks amigo!

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    Some great stuff in this thread-
    Building mine soon enough with a mix of old and new parts.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on the King bb set up for this frame?
    Normally I like XTR bb- reliable and not too expensive.
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