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    And Now for Something Completely Different









    It feels big, heavy and squishy.
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    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Pull the travel spacers in the fork to get 140mm!
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    Better suited to non-aggressive 125# gals named Russell.

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    Bring back the ByStickel into the rotation!

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    How about a pro review?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    Bring back the ByStickel into the rotation!
    Highly unlikely.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banks View Post
    Pull the travel spacers in the fork to get 140mm!
    I done did that 130 rear, 140 front.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Looks flexy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    It feels big, heavy and squishy.
    Like a diaper that's been on too long?

    Serious, I think I like. Imagined doing the same with my FSR.
    "I love the bike. It's my meditation. I think I'm bike-sexual." -Robin Williams

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    Your bike has a muffin top.


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    A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse. MP
    A Fatback'd Lefty for who life IS a Beach

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    I'm confused...what is this?
    Try this: HTFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse. MP
    Faces 3rd.

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    Ha, Bontrager rubber on a Stumpy.
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    Ride observations:

    This is my first ever frame from the Great Satan, or "Them Who Shall Not Be Named."

    I kind of got it by accident. I was hunting around for something with decent geometry for a single speed full suspension bike, and sort of settled on Specialized or a Tall Boy. This old/new 2010 frame came up at a price I could not pass up, so here we are.

    I converted it with a Rohloff tensioner that only needed a little tweak to clear the largish 22 cog.

    Overall, the frame is very well thought out. Easy to build, but requires an immensely long rear brake cable due to under DT routing and all the excess required due to the monkey motion. I used a Reba 140 for the fork.

    On the trail, the bike feels big. Absolutely not as poppy as a Milk Money, but it has practically double the travel and weighs a couple pounds more (29 lbs). The freakiest thing to me is the way the rear suspension simply has no interaction with chain tension. I have never had a significant amount of time on an FSR type frame/bike set up for me. The rear truly is independent of the chain tension. The difference is subtle, but I do notice it. At times I was expecting a little rear traction loss on up type moves in ledgy terrain, the rear was just silent, dead and full of traction. I thought I could brake a little deeper with the rear in the loose stuff, but that was an even more subtle effect, could be my imagination.

    The Brain Shock: What a completely stupid idea. Especially on a bike with 130mm travel. I tried it on and off, and it became clear I preferred it all the way off almost immediately. Here you have a fantastic suspension design that honestly hardly bobs, even ridden as a single speed standing, and you trash its function with a stupid excessively spikey compression damper. I dislike it a lot. This is a fix for a non-issue, attached to a bike for I what I presume must be marketing reasons. Rant off.

    For the way I ride, I really like the feel of the suspension. I for the life of my can't see riding any bike where the rear stiffens up under power, especially in ledgy terrain or loose climbs. The pedal feedback would drive me nuts in ledges, and I want/need that traction when it is steep and loose.

    Most of my prior ride time has been spent on low linkage actived single pivot frames. The differences are minimal, but real.



    Personally, I prefer a really active suspension to one that resists bob. I just could care less about it and I don't really notice it.

    Anyhow, there is my FSR newby rant. It's a beautiful design burdened down by a stupid, unnecessary damping system.


    I did notice (and dislike) the extra 8-9mm of chainstay length on the Stumpjumper over the Lenz, but it is not a dealbreaker......so far. I seem to be able to get it to do what I want/need, but I haven't hit the real puckery stuff yet.


    The chassis is absolutely overkill for a pure rock bike. I realized that this A.M. It is just too much travel for slow tech. It is a lot of bike and even with the wuss 32X22 gearing it hard to push up steep inclines, and hard to sprint to gain momentum when I need it most. I found myself stalling a lot on ups I usually clean. The low BB can suck or be good depending on situation.

    The rear travel is very linear and sort of blows through travel, but I don't detect bottom out. My pedal strike issues and blow through improves somewhat as I added air. This frame seems to like sag somewhere between 20-25%. That is higher than I am used to with a 130mm rear travel bike. Air pressures also seem high, around 200-210 psi. I am used to setting 30-35% sag and about 160psi on the Lenz and letting the linkage deal with the bottom out. Maybe I'm just getting fat.

    It's a pretty amazing ride when pointed down though. I think it gives a Moth/Box a very strong run for their money in the trail bike category. It handles wonderfully on single track. It is a frame that will keep you out of trouble. Or get you in to it depending on your perspective.

    At this point I would absolutely recommend the Specialized to anyone in the market for an all trail type 29" FS bike. Just buy one without a Brain.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skitchy View Post
    Ha, Bontrager rubber on a Stumpy.
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    Looks way too complicated to me, to be a SS.
    "I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew

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    I thought you had a Milk Money?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    I thought you had a Milk Money?

    Zee Milk Money, she ees dead. Thus the placeholder.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    moving backwards

    Gave up a ByStickel for this?

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    It;ll be like your Niner RIP, up for sale shortly.
    "i'll brazilian when YOU do boy, right around the ol' rusty star. Actually, whole fruit bowl. Get on it!" NicoleB

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy View Post
    It;ll be like your Niner RIP, up for sale shortly.
    Possibly. I would take this bike 10 out of 10 times over that first gen RIP though.
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    lol it's like an identity crisis on wheels, i like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4x4runner View Post
    lol it's like an identity crisis on wheels, i like!
    My thinking too. It's like the wrong tool for every job
    "I love the bike. It's my meditation. I think I'm bike-sexual." -Robin Williams

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    What happened to the Milk Money please ?
    A Fatback'd Lefty for who life IS a Beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr feelygood ! View Post
    what happened to the milk money please ?
    ^ this


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