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    New question here. New carbon XC Hardtail (2-2,4k EUR). Canyon, Cube, Rocky Mountain

    Hello. I am buying new XC Hardtail, budget is around 2k-2,5k. Carbon frame, for bike to be as light as possible. Not decided between Shimano/Sram and Fox/Rockshox setups... I Narowed it to three models.


    1. Canyon Exceed cf sl 6.0 pro race (2.299 EUR):
    10,3kg (Medium), Sram GX eagle 1x12 setup + RockShox SID RL. Brakes could be better, not sure about grip shift and I heard 1x12 could be costly (maintaince, replacement) option in a long run?

    https://www.canyon.com/en-si/mtb/exc...-pro-race.html


    2. Cube Reaction C:62 SL (with some discounts, 2.250 EUR): 10,3kg (smallest frame): Deore XT Setup, Fox 32 Float SC FIT4

    https://www.cube.eu/en/2018/bikes/mo...reynblue-2018/


    3. Rocky Mountain Vertex 970 SL (2017 model, with discounts I could probably get it for 2.300 EUR): 10,6kg (medium), Deore XT/XTR (rear) setup, Fox Step Cast Performance. It has REALLY loud rear hub, which I know it should be a feature, but I wonder if it could become annoying.

    https://www.oxygenbikes.com/product/...l-286068-1.htm



    I currently own Cube Acid 29 (2013). It does its job, but the bike is really heavy, brakes are crap etc...

    Could you help me please with suggestions. Thanks.

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    Things I would want-
    Boost rear with space for 2.5-2.6" tire. So 148 hub.
    A front fork with space for a 2.6" tire and possibly wider. The SC doesn't have that. SID Boost with Charger damper does.
    Speed is over an entire course or loop. My terrain has many curves and short steep climbs, rocks/roots that benefit from wider 30mm+(even a 43mm front) rims, wider tires and lower pressures for larger tread footprints. Setup is about compromise. I can pickup cornering speed and climbing traction that outweighs the flat track speed lost from the added grams.
    You have to analyze your terrain.
    The Trek Procaliber carbon(not the SL) has the rear space. Plus Isospeed.
    https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...olorCode=black

    Bontrager XR2 Team 2.35 tires work with 35mm inner rims. XR1 Team 2.2 works with 30mm inner rims. These tires have a newer profile design with more volume and a more rounded profile that doesn't square off on wider rims.
    No foldover at lower pressures so you get a slower progressive loss of traction you can recover from. Lots of fun compared to the instant loss from skinny rim sidewall foldover. The wider rim supports the sidewall. Ride it once and you'll never go back.
    Priced right and long lasting. Unfortunately no 2.5-2.6" small low knob version yet.
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    Thnx. I personally dont need 2.5, 2.6 tyre. 2.2-2.3 is ok.

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    What inner width rim are you using. If it's not a wide one you're not using performance information that's very significant in your analysis. There's a very noticeable improvement in tire behavior when you support the sidewall and can run lower pressure. 5 or more psi or .34 bar less produces a larger footprint with crinkled versus folded over sidewalls. No abrupt loss of traction. Gradual slideout with time for a recovery. 19-21mm inner width rims aren't even used on road bikes anymore. They are nonsensical for wider tire mountain bikes.

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    So what you are suggesting i shouldn't buy any of bikes I linked? Because they do not support wide enough tyre? Lets just say I am not interested in a wider rim/tyre.

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    Ignoring the posts up there about the necessity for wide rims and massive tyres on an XC bike, I can highly recommend the KTM Myroon

    This one is well within budget 2018 KTM Myroon 29 Pro 12 with a very nice light carbon frame full SRAM GX Eagle, Tubeless ready wheels & tyres, 142x12 rear end

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    4 years on wide rims. If you can borrow a wheelset to demo in 142 for your current bike you'd come away with the info you need. This has been rider driven. Manufacturers are catching up. Canyon has added Boost to their trail bikes this year.

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    Giant XTC advanced 3 is another one to consider.

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