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    New carbon frame with "old" 12x142

    I'm looking to buy a new trail frame to accommodate my current carbon wheels and expensive hubs which are 15x100 12x142 and pike 120mm. I'm wondering who makes a frame that would match that except the Specialized Camber. Or maybe a use one would be better because there would be better choices? I currently have a 2014 fuel ex 9.9 and I'm looking for a shorter Rear center and longer front center.

    I thought about an older tallboy, but that wouldn't be much of an improvement.

    Need help. Thanks

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    Turner Czar

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerbait View Post
    Turner Czar
    That is not a trail bike, that is a xc bike.

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    Evil is selling v.1 Followings for about 2g right now. It fits your requirements. I'm kind of in the same boat, but looking aluminum just to save few bucks.

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    canfield EPO is a trail hardtail (I just bought one). Also have a turner czar with 120mm fork which makes a great trail bike. If you need a little more bike the following is a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain2 View Post
    That is not a trail bike, that is a xc bike.
    Fake news. The Czar with a 120mm Pike is a very capable trail bike.

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    Look at Pivot, I'm sure there are some 2016 and 2015 models running around online that are 142.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

    You're turning black metallic.

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    Just built up a used v1 Following. Sounds like it'd work for you.

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    Can you convert the hubs to wider?

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    The bike industries master plan is working...
    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Wow, I didn't know that was possible. Problem solved I guess. I'll probably get a norco optic and bump my pike to 130mm.

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    You said longer front triangle? Yes, the Czar fits the hub spec, but the reach is pretty darn short to begin with. With a 120mm fork it's a great trail/race bike, but it also shortens the reach and slacks the seat angle a bit. I couldn't make my 120 Fox 34 Czar fit perfectly for climbing (I'm 178cm/5'10") no matter what I did with stem, bar, spacers, saddle adjust, etc. whereas others have great success. Returned my Czar to 100mm and sold it to a family friend who is now shopping for a 2018 Camber Expert for the wheel situation the OP writes of.

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