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    New,2010 Lynskey Houseblend PRO29


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    I love my Pro29, but this new one.......

    not so much.

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    Why, it is a bit slacker, stiffer, and slightly shorter chainstays. Do you just not like the way it looks or is it something else?

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    mainly the look

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer
    Why, it is a bit slacker, stiffer, and slightly shorter chainstays. Do you just not like the way it looks or is it something else?
    I really like the swoopy top tube on my 2009 frame. I like the helix on the downtube and I think it really does stiffen the frame laterally. I think that there is too little difference between the Ridgeline and the Pro29 now. I think Lynskey would have been better served to continue to make the Pro 29 with the helix downtube and maybe a swoopy, hydroformed top tube if they wanted to do something different. The hydroformed front triangles that they are making for the Titus rockstar look amazing.

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    BB is kinda high for a HT. Or is that just IMO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding
    BB is kinda high for a HT. Or is that just IMO?
    well...everything from your perspective is IMO

    i disagree anyway. especially with a supposed 100mm fork, which will of course physically sag more than a 80mm such that a smidgen higher static bottom bracket for longer fork makes sense since when "on the trail"/sagged, where it matters, it will yield about the same relative bottom bracket height.

    Further, 12.5" is a perfect BB height for lots of folks...some people actually have rocks and sh!t where yes, even on a hardtail too low of a BB is not my favorite thing. Nevertheless, a static 12.5" sound great to me for a non custom configuration where it can be generalized nicely

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    I really like the swoopy top tube on my 2009 frame. I like the helix on the downtube and I think it really does stiffen the frame laterally. I think that there is too little difference between the Ridgeline and the Pro29 now. I think Lynskey would have been better served to continue to make the Pro 29 with the helix downtube and maybe a swoopy, hydroformed top tube if they wanted to do something different. The hydroformed front triangles that they are making for the Titus rockstar look amazing.
    i think it looks badazz! sorry...i really think it does. having said that, it's not nearly as badazz as my FoSkey

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    Definitely think the 09 looks better, the helix toptube is an eye sore!
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    I don't care for bent top tubes, so I like the way the 2010 looks better.
    In their write up the say it's:
    "not a do-all bike. Designed around the tight, twisty singletrack of the Southeast, this bike is at home on technical terrain and shines on fire roads and double track."
    So which is it?

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    This Helix shape seems like it is more obvious,more clear in the tubes now,but could be the photo quality...

    They claim it's stiffer now.I can't wait for the reviews...

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    Good job! Lynskey

    IMO both models look great!

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    Yeah, I think they look pretty hot myself. Although I admit I'm looking forward to seeing the fabled Foskey. AM hardtails are something that have really piqued my intersest since a buddy of mine got a 456 5 years ago, and Fo's build sounds about perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB2
    I don't care for bent top tubes, so I like the way the 2010 looks better.
    In their write up the say it's:
    "not a do-all bike. Designed around the tight, twisty singletrack of the Southeast, this bike is at home on technical terrain and shines on fire roads and double track."
    So which is it?

    That is kind of a funny ad copy. I mean, what else is left to ride on? I guess 'do all' means North Shore all the way through loaded touring or something.
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    I think "fire road" is a quite regional term. And when used in the southeast to describe the Pisgah area type terrain where Lynskey is located you have to realize it refers to anything wider than singletrack.

    So in Lynskey's description you have to put location in context to the term "fire road" which around here could be a flat road. But more than likely it goes up at 30-40 degree incline or has bowling ball sized rocks strewn everywhere and 3' drops!

    Maybe it's just the polite southern way to leave out the most important word, abandoned when referring to most area fire roads!?

    I've learned that just because it has the word "road" in it around here does not mean you could drive anything on it. It can be quite a challenge just to walk it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive
    Fo's build sounds about perfect.
    oh stop I agree

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    I think the helix top tube looks 10x better than the sloped top tube. I'd be far more likely to buy this than the old PRO29. Looking forward to the reviews!

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    helix tubes stiffer or just marketing hype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    I think Lynskey would have been better served to continue to make the Pro 29 with the helix downtube and maybe a swoopy, hydroformed top tube if they wanted to do something different. The hydroformed front triangles that they are making for the Titus rockstar look amazing.
    Yeah. I agree.

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    I thought the geometry of the PRO29 was different from the Ridgeline 29 in 2009. Now they are the same. So, the difference in the two models is the Helix tubes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by None
    I think "fire road" is a quite regional term. And when used in the southeast to describe the Pisgah area type terrain where Lynskey is located you have to realize it refers to anything wider than singletrack.

    So in Lynskey's description you have to put location in context to the term "fire road" which around here could be a flat road. But more than likely it goes up at 30-40 degree incline or has bowling ball sized rocks strewn everywhere and 3' drops!

    Maybe it's just the polite southern way to leave out the most important word, abandoned when referring to most area fire roads!?

    I've learned that just because it has the word "road" in it around here does not mean you could drive anything on it. It can be quite a challenge just to walk it!
    I think None has ridden Farlow gap before. Technically I guess it's an old fire road but probably one of the most technically challenging roads you will ever ride.

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    I thought the geometry of the PRO29 was different from the Ridgeline 29 in 2009. Now they are the same. So, the difference in the two models is the Helix tubes?
    Yep, the Helix for sure. Maybe also a different tube set, rendering the Pro lighter (the figures on the website are estimates, so presently comparing between them is meaningless).

    The Helix should (stress on should) give you a stiffer front end and a responsive BB (read - no flex).

    I think Lynskey, rightfully so, has been sensitive to the general lambasting Ti is flexy and grabbed the bull by its horn.

    I may order one soon and give it a try. They have 15 days return policy (excluding shipping both ways) so the risk is minimal. If it is good as they claim, that would be a blast!!

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    I think Lynskey would have been better served to continue to make the Pro 29 with the helix downtube and maybe a swoopy, hydroformed top tube if they wanted to do something different. The hydroformed front triangles that they are making for the Titus rockstar look amazing.
    Form follows function...They wanted to make a better bike.

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    I love it,

    What's up with the white rigid fork? Is that a one off fork just for that bike or are they available through Lynskey? Fo? CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    What's up with the white rigid fork? Is that a one off fork just for that bike or are they available through Lynskey? Fo? CF.
    ha...i asked as well what fork that is, i dunno but likely somebody here does. just a repaint of an existing fork no doubt????

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    What's up with the white rigid fork?
    465mm repainted. Belongs to their employee/racer Jamey.

    P.s: in the video the frame doesn't look that hot. Might be the prospective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Form follows function...They wanted to make a better bike.
    Yeah, right. Remember all those Litespeeds with octagonal tubing and whatnot? This is the same dog and pony show. For tubes that see stresses from a variety of different directions (i.e. bending AND torsion), you can't beat a round tube. Square-section tubing has been available for bicycle usage for what, fifty years? I hardly think Litespeed has been the first to try to give it a twist.

    Not that I'm saying it is a bad frame, not at all. Just that the "helix" thing isn't going to make it a better frame than it would've been with an appropriately spec'ed round tube.

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    I did some geology mapping around the edges of the Shenandoah Ntnl park. the fire roads marked on the map were slightly easier to traverse than just bushwhacking, but only slightly. Nothing like the fireroads out here in socal.

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    Yeah, right. Remember all those Litespeeds with octagonal tubing and whatnot? This is the same dog and pony show. For tubes that see stresses from a variety of different directions (i.e. bending AND torsion), you can't beat a round tube. Square-section tubing has been available for bicycle usage for what, fifty years? I hardly think Litespeed has been the first to try to give it a twist.

    Not that I'm saying it is a bad frame, not at all. Just that the "helix" thing isn't going to make it a better frame than it would've been with an appropriately spec'ed round tube.
    Your logic is sound, although Lynskey, unsurprisingly, swears by their technology. I've read some reviews (might be biased by company kicks or favoritism of course) hailing the Helix as the savior of the 'Noodly Ti'. (Many owners swear there's no flex, but either they deceive themselves or they have noodles for legs...Or they tubeset is very burly).

    I guess the proof is in the pudding. Got to ride one.

    Has any one got something to contribute, based on their experience, on the Helix?

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    Cranks

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    well...everything from your perspective is IMO

    i disagree anyway. especially with a supposed 100mm fork, which will of course physically sag more than a 80mm such that a smidgen higher static bottom bracket for longer fork makes sense since when "on the trail"/sagged, where it matters, it will yield about the same relative bottom bracket height.

    Further, 12.5" is a perfect BB height for lots of folks...some people actually have rocks and sh!t where yes, even on a hardtail too low of a BB is not my favorite thing. Nevertheless, a static 12.5" sound great to me for a non custom configuration where it can be generalized nicely
    $hit for brains is correct (for once). Also for those who like 180mm cranks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    ha...i asked as well what fork that is, i dunno but likely somebody here does. just a repaint of an existing fork no doubt????
    Thanks Fo..........After seeing this I really can't wait to see your bike.....CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    465mm repainted. Belongs to their employee/racer Jamey.

    P.s: in the video the frame doesn't look that hot. Might be the prospective?
    Thanks..........CF.

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    Love mine!

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    I weigh 225 and feel very little flex in this frame compared to others. and believe me - i don't have noodles for legs!

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    I weigh 225 and feel very little flex in this frame compared to others. and believe me - i don't have noodles for legs!

    Sweet
    I'll build myself one and try it out. (2010). Probably black accent, though with a Niner fork (Love your Noir. My favorite crankset. Wished it came it in 180mm)

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    New geometry means what for us rigid fork folk?

    They say the geometry has changed this year for use of a 100mm fork. They also say it is not for the faint of heart when it comes to handling. My brand new NINER carbon fork that I bought just for this frame when I have the money is going to make the head tube angle even steeper. That is not what I want. Do I have to go custom geometry for way more money or just go with another brand of titanium bike that will work with my fork?

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    With a 100mm fork, the handling can't be that quick...not with a 71 degree HA, right? Why not just sell the fork and get a 100mm fork? Of course, custom Ti would be sweet.

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    I have no need for suspension where I ride my ss. I like grabing it and all i have to do is check tire presure and i'm off. I will have an over engineered, over priced and over complicated fs with + & - air presure on every thing not to mention the rebound, compresion, lockout, floodgate. I'm sure i forgot at least five other things to check on most bikes out there have today soon enough. I love the purity of my ss. I think I will stick to steel for a little longer. It's just the sight of titanium makes me loose control of all logic.

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    They say the geometry has changed this year for use of a 100mm fork. They also say it is not for the faint of heart when it comes to handling. My brand new NINER carbon fork that I bought just for this frame when I have the money is going to make the head tube angle even steeper. That is not what I want. Do I have to go custom geometry for way more money or just go with another brand of titanium bike that will work with my fork?
    I had the same consideration. Your Niner fork should work perfectly. They have slacked the head tube angle this year and 80mm will get it back to were it was. I don't have the numbers to calculate the new angle, but I guess it will be similar to Niner One.

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    I love you man. I didnt think about it that much. I was depressed that they changed my bike. I will continue on course to achive world domination as planned. I hope to have mine by new year.

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    Yep.....

    (old pic - now new and improved with non-drive side bracing at the CS/SS and new type sliders)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbyyou
    I weigh 225 and feel very little flex in this frame compared to others. and believe me - i don't have noodles for legs!
    MBY, what do you include in the "others" category? I would like a real world comparison to an IF Ti deluxe 29er, Mooto-X, BS Highlight, which I think of as the top end Ti frames on the market. There are not many Ti frames in Lynskey's price range that are not simply either sourced from Lynskey or far far away.

    IF and BS would obviously spec the tubes based on your weight. But if this sub $2000 frame (and let's be honest, it will be sub $1700 with their perpetual sales) truly performs better than the custom, highest end Ti 29ers, now that would be impressive.

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    @Endure26

    What finish do you have on your frame? Is that the Industrial Mill?

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    It's the brushed finish. Hard to see but it also has etched flames on the ht, so the ht appears to be raw in the pic. I had some issues with the non-drive side slider. Sent it back to Lynskey and they added a brace and new sliders. No more problems (I hope). Appears they are now doing this with other frames. I also race cyclocross on a Lynskey ProCross that I picked up at the end of Summer. I've really been liking that one a bunch this season and haven't had a lot of time on the mtb since September.

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    It's the brushed finish. Hard to see but it also has etched flames on the ht, so the ht appears to be raw in the pic. I had some issues with the non-drive side slider. Sent it back to Lynskey and they added a brace and new sliders. No more problems (I hope). Appears they are now doing this with other frames. I also race cyclocross on a Lynskey ProCross that I picked up at the end of Summer. I've really been liking that one a bunch this season and haven't had a lot of time on the mtb since September.
    Thanks...

    Any one has pictures of their Industrial Mill finish?
    Any thoughts on their post seat? They are offering me a discounted price. My other alternative is Syntace P6 Carbon,

    I've ordered from them the Pro 29 2010 and I debate the finish. Either Industrial Mill or hand brush. Also, still wavering between black and white decals (their new design is very bold). Right now I'm leaning toward brush with white (the white would blend as oppose to the black that would stand out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Thanks...

    Any one has pictures of their Industrial Mill finish?
    Any thoughts on their post seat? They are offering me a discounted price. My other alternative is Syntace P6 Carbon,

    I've ordered from them the Pro 29 2010 and I debate the finish. Either Industrial Mill or hand brush. Also, still wavering between black and white decals (their new design is very bold). Right now I'm leaning toward brush with white (the white would blend as oppose to the black that would stand out).
    I went with the brushed finish on my M230 b/c it's more durable- marks don't show up as easily and small scratches can be buffed out with a scotch brite pad. White decals.

    I haven't ridden the Lynskey seatpost, but I've heard good things about it. It might be a future purchase for me.
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    My matt satin finish on a 2010 Ridgeline with white decals. I had a Moots with a "industrial mill" which is VERY nice.
    I have had no problems with this finish though and it seems quite durable and a little different.


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    The white decals are a nice complement to the mat satin finish

    Just wonder if the hand brush is worth the extra $$ (as opposed to the Industrial Mill)

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    I bet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Thanks...

    Any one has pictures of their Industrial Mill finish?
    Any thoughts on their post seat? They are offering me a discounted price. My other alternative is Syntace P6 Carbon,

    I've ordered from them the Pro 29 2010 and I debate the finish. Either Industrial Mill or hand brush. Also, still wavering between black and white decals (their new design is very bold). Right now I'm leaning toward brush with white (the white would blend as oppose to the black that would stand out).
    if you called them and asked nicely, they would upgrade the finish to the brushed finish for no charge. They did mine for free just to give me the final nudge to buy it. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Thanks...

    Any one has pictures of their Industrial Mill finish?
    Any thoughts on their post seat? They are offering me a discounted price. My other alternative is Syntace P6 Carbon,

    I've ordered from them the Pro 29 2010 and I debate the finish. Either Industrial Mill or hand brush. Also, still wavering between black and white decals (their new design is very bold). Right now I'm leaning toward brush with white (the white would blend as oppose to the black that would stand out).
    carbon is lame, seriously, ESPECIALLY on a Ti frame...the lynskey post is rad. my new lynskey frame unfortunately is not yielding the seattube size to accomodate their post so i have no choice but if i did i would certainly go Lynskey.

    not sure about the finish...its subjective. i am gnarcore so i went with Mill cuz thats how i roll but to each their own

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    what size?

    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    carbon is lame...the lynskey post is rad. my new lynskey frame unfortunately is not yielding the seattube size to accomodate their post so i have no choice but if i did i would certainly go Lynskey.

    not sure about the finish...its subjective. i am gnarcore so i went with Mill cuz thats how i roll but to each their own
    I know the Foskey is a custom build but did you get them to use different ID tubing than normal? What's the projected delivery date on the Foskey? Can't wait to see this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber999
    Thanks...

    Any thoughts on their post seat? They are offering me a discounted price. My other alternative is Syntace P6 Carbon,
    Bling.

    Seriously, I have only ever broken a $12 Kalloy seatpost. Allegedly it might offer a modicum of comfort, but I think that this is mostly placebo. If you like it and have the money, it is very nice. If you don't, then just about any seatpost will do the job.

    I too was offered a decent price on one with my roadie, but for a road bike fit is so much more involved that it would be unwise to get the setpost before I knew if I wanted a zero offset job. I ended up just getting a Thomson and keeping my $150. Sure, it is light, strong, pretty and all that, but all together not great value.

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