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    need some schooling, best bang for the buck?

    I ve got 2 bikes in my sights, for the money which one is the best bang for the buck? I know they are different styles but they both interest me for various reasons. I see some similar parts in the build kits, and it seems like there are some nicer parts on the TRANSAM I assume the fork is nicer on the TRANSAM as well. I guess what I am asking is the Transition work the extra $$$ over the Santa Cruz?

    TRANSAM 29 $2299
    Fox 32 Float 120 CTD FIT
    Truvativ AKA Stem (60mm, 1.125, Black)
    Kore Durox Handlebar (740x35mm, 31.8mm, Black)
    FSA Orbit ITA Headset (ZS44/EC44, Tapered Fork)
    X5 Crankset w/ Bashguard (175mm, 38/24t, 73mm GXP, BTBLK)
    Elixir 3 Brakeset 180mm
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic 29 x 2.25 (Performance)
    Stylo T20 DC Seatpost (30.9mm, 400mm)
    Transition Park n Ride AM
    Transition Logo Lock On
    SRAM PG 1030 Cassette (10sp, 11-36)
    Revolution 25 - Black/Black (15mm Front, 142mm Rear)
    X5 Rear Shifter (10sp, BLK, w/ Clamp)
    X5 Front Shifter (2sp, Black, w/ Clamp)
    X7 Rear Derailleur (Medium Cage, Aluminum, 10sp, STGRY)
    X5 High Clamp 31.8mm Front Derailleur (2X10, Dual Pull, BLK)
    None
    FSA Team Issue 10spd


    SantaCruz Highball $1500
    REAR DER: SRAM X7 Long Cage
    FRONT DER: SRAM X5
    SHIFTERS: SRAM X5
    CRANKSET: SRAM X5 22/33/44
    BOTTOM BRACKET: Included w/ crankset
    CASSETTE: SRAM PG1030 11-36
    CHAIN: KMC X10 10spd
    BRAKES: Avid Elixir 1 w/ 160mm rotors
    BARS: Raceface RIde low riser 685mm
    STEM: Raceface Ride 70mm or 90mm
    GRIPS: Lizard Skin "494"
    HEADSET: Cane Creek 10
    SEAT POST: Raceface Ride 30.9x375mm
    SADDLE: WTB Volt Sport
    WHEELS: WTB i19 TCS rims laced to Shimano M525 front hub and M525 or M678 rear hub w/ DT 14 gauge spokes, brass nipples
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith13 View Post
    I ve got 2 bikes in my sights, for the money which one is the best bang for the buck? I know they are different styles but they both interest me for various reasons. I see some similar parts in the build kits, and it seems like there are some nicer parts on the TRANSAM I assume the fork is nicer on the TRANSAM as well. I guess what I am asking is the Transition work the extra $$$ over the Santa Cruz?

    TRANSAM 29 $2299
    Fox 32 Float 120 CTD FIT
    Truvativ AKA Stem (60mm, 1.125, Black)
    Kore Durox Handlebar (740x35mm, 31.8mm, Black)
    FSA Orbit ITA Headset (ZS44/EC44, Tapered Fork)
    X5 Crankset w/ Bashguard (175mm, 38/24t, 73mm GXP, BTBLK)
    Elixir 3 Brakeset 180mm
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic 29 x 2.25 (Performance)
    Stylo T20 DC Seatpost (30.9mm, 400mm)
    Transition Park n Ride AM
    Transition Logo Lock On
    SRAM PG 1030 Cassette (10sp, 11-36)
    Revolution 25 - Black/Black (15mm Front, 142mm Rear)
    X5 Rear Shifter (10sp, BLK, w/ Clamp)
    X5 Front Shifter (2sp, Black, w/ Clamp)
    X7 Rear Derailleur (Medium Cage, Aluminum, 10sp, STGRY)
    X5 High Clamp 31.8mm Front Derailleur (2X10, Dual Pull, BLK)
    None
    FSA Team Issue 10spd


    SantaCruz Highball $1500
    REAR DER: SRAM X7 Long Cage
    FRONT DER: SRAM X5
    SHIFTERS: SRAM X5
    CRANKSET: SRAM X5 22/33/44
    BOTTOM BRACKET: Included w/ crankset
    CASSETTE: SRAM PG1030 11-36
    CHAIN: KMC X10 10spd
    BRAKES: Avid Elixir 1 w/ 160mm rotors
    BARS: Raceface RIde low riser 685mm
    STEM: Raceface Ride 70mm or 90mm
    GRIPS: Lizard Skin "494"
    HEADSET: Cane Creek 10
    SEAT POST: Raceface Ride 30.9x375mm
    SADDLE: WTB Volt Sport
    WHEELS: WTB i19 TCS rims laced to Shimano M525 front hub and M525 or M678 rear hub w/ DT 14 gauge spokes, brass nipples
    I'd step up to the Highball RXC29 kit for $2199 and get the mix of XT/SLX personally if it's between those two models and use the extra $100 to see if the shop will let you upgrade to SLX or XT brakes
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    $1300.00 Jamis Dragon Sport
    x7 drivetrain
    More bang for the buck.

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    I know this doesn't answer your original question but I agree with Two Tone. To me, if you have the money then get the most bike you can get for that money. Either spend the $2299 and get the Trans Am or upgrade the Santa Cruz to the RXC29 build kit and go wild with the $100 you saved.

    One thing to note is that Transition has a two year defect warranty and lifetime crash replacement (that is to say- they'll send you the section of the frame you damaged at a "nominal charge". The Santa Cruz offers three additional years with their five year frame warranty, plus a lifetime frame bearing warranty (which Transition doesn't offer) in addition to their lifetime crash replacement (same nominal charge deal as Transition).

    Good luck with your decision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premo View Post
    $1300.00 Jamis Dragon Sport
    x7 drivetrain
    More bang for the buck.
    Not everyone is into the retro steel frames. 31lbs for a HT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Not everyone is into the retro steel frames. 31lbs for a HT?
    The TRANSAM 29 that keith13 is considering is a retro steel frame, 30 lbs. Correct? Not everyone is into plastic and aluminum either. Steel frames are the most comfortable frames made today.

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    I have last year's Highball D. This year's D is nicer (I'd much rather have Raceface Ride than Easton EA30,) but I still ended up replacing almost everything on it. In the end, I spent about as much as if I had bought a Highball R. I guess it depends on whether or not you want to pay the price difference all at once, or in increments. The components worked fine, but they weighed a ton.

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    I personally would choose the Transam but not because of the components on either but because it is the kind of bike I like to ride. In fact I ride a Banshee Paradox which has similar geometry. I don't see how you can compare the two. The Transam is essentially an aggressive trail bike. It has a slack head angle of 68½º and a 120mm. fork. The Highball geometry is like a race bike with a 70½º head tube and has a 100mm. fork. They are going to feel very different.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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