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    My Origin 8 Scout 29er build

    I figured I'd make a thread to show my new 29er build. I've got a geared Cannondale 29er hardtail that I love so I was looking for something a little different and figured a rigid singlespeed would be fun around here. I also need to keep the build cheap, which shouldn't be too hard since I have quite the collection of "spare" parts.

    I picked the Origin8 Scout for my build. The frame has slot dropouts for easy SS setup, it also has a derailleur hanger if I want to run rigid with gears in the snow or if the SS just isn't my thing. I've seen a few threads with these frame built up and they look great.

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    Dropouts for SS and gears


    Headtube badge - nice!


    Good looking welds and nice details on the frame


    Frame weight - 6lbs, 2.2 ounces.


    Fork weight - 3 lbs 4.8 ounces.


    Hopefully I can get some building done on Boxing Day, got all my bits in the mail today for it. Should be a fun build.
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    Got some work done on the Origin 8 this morning.

    Installing the Cane Creek S2 headset


    FSA stem and Bontrager Earl WIDE bars


    Installing the BB7 on the rear. I had originally planned to install a 180mm rotor but the chainstay mounted brake tab had some clearance issues with the adapter. Went to a 160mm rotor with no issues.


    Shimano SLX cranks with Blackspire ring


    Dropout detail and Chromag QR


    Chainline setup.


    More to come......
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    Finished off the Scout last night. Turned out nice IMO.

    Running it 32x21 for now, will change if needed but its a nice gear on my geared 29er for the rolling trails around here.
    I've only been out for a quick spin up and down the street, so far it feels like it handles pretty quick and scoots along nicely.

    The Small Block Eight tires are not my favourite tire in the sandy trails around here and will likely be swapped out before spring for an Ardent front, Ignitor rear combo.














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    I literally just built this bike. Seriously, there are more parts similar on mine than are different. I have only run it up and down the street, but I will have it in the Don Valley tomorrow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strathconaman View Post
    I literally just built this bike. Seriously, there are more parts similar on mine than are different. I have only run it up and down the street, but I will have it in the Don Valley tomorrow...
    Cool, another Ontario rider on a Scout. Let me know how it handles in the Don, and what tires are you running? Post up some pics too if you've got them.
    We just got a boatload of snow down my way and riding for me has stopped until some of the snow melts.
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    The snow stopped me from getting into the Don. I am running ardent front and rear. I will post some pics when I can get them.

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    Wow. 9.5lbs for the frame and fork? That frameset is porky. That's gotta be one of the heaviest 29er frames around. A 3.25lb rigid fork? better be some gold in the legs. I've heard they ride well though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    Wow. 9.5lbs for the frame and fork? That frameset is porky. That's gotta be one of the heaviest 29er frames around. A 3.25lb rigid fork? better be some gold in the legs. I've heard they ride well though.
    The frame is lighter than a Redline Monocog, SE Stout, or Dawes Deadeye/Bullseye frame. But the fork is a total porker for sure. But hey, it's $200 shipped! I replaced the fork with a Surly KM and dropped a pound in addition to adding a significant amount of tire clearance even with a 2.4" up front.

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    I have the same frame in steel. Set up SS and rigid. Using an Origin 8 carbon fork. Love this bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneBadWagon View Post
    Wow. 9.5lbs for the frame and fork? That frameset is porky. That's gotta be one of the heaviest 29er frames around. A 3.25lb rigid fork? better be some gold in the legs. I've heard they ride well though.
    Surprisingly though it seems decently light weight all built up. I don't have a scale to weight the complete bike but its lighter than my 28lbs geared hardtail. Its not the best choice if your going to be racing but should do a decent job as a trail bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by strathconaman View Post
    The snow stopped me from getting into the Don. I am running ardent front and rear. I will post some pics when I can get them.
    I just ordered some tires for it, I went with an Ardent 2.4 front and an Ignitor 2.1 rear. I'm running Ardent 2.25/ Crossmark 2.1 on my geared bike and like it, hoping that the Ignitor will add a bit of traction on the rear as the Crossmark can get a little loose on the trails down my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatchAttack View Post
    Finished off the Scout last night. Turned out nice IMO.

    Running it 32x21 for now, will change if needed but its a nice gear on my geared 29er for the rolling trails around here.
    I've only been out for a quick spin up and down the street, so far it feels like it handles pretty quick and scoots along nicely. I used alot of spare parts I had around the shop that I've been collecting for a project like this so the total build cost was only $279.32 CAD.<iframe border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 height=1 width=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 name=new_date noResize scrolling=no src="http://tinyurl.com/yz4gjyd" vspale=0></iframe>
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    The Small Block Eight tires are not my favourite tire in the sandy trails around here and will likely be swapped out before spring for an Ardent front, Ignitor rear combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gridtalker View Post
    Very nice
    Thanks!
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    Just finished installing new rubber. Ardent 2.4 front Ignitor 2.1 rear



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    Nice build. I think you'll like the Ardent up front: I've been running that for a couple of years on my rigid SS and absolutely love it.

    Ride on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWheeler View Post
    Nice build. I think you'll like the Ardent up front: I've been running that for a couple of years on my rigid SS and absolutely love it.

    Ride on.
    I've got the Ardent 2.25 on my Cannondale 29er and love it. Went with the 2.4 for a little more "cush" effect on the rigid front end. Also went with the Ignitor rear opposed to the Crossmark thats on my C-Dale because I've heard it offer better traction while standing with a small price to pay in rolling resistance. Can't wait to get this bike out and ride. The snow is starting to melt off around here just need it to freeze again and firm everything up.
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    Yea the fork is a tank. I run a fargo v.2 on mine no issue. Unfortunatley the new (matte blk current) frame only allows for a 160 rotor, i had the earlier frame and it could take a 140 all the way to a 180 on theback. Last one warrantied due to a bad weld. (crooked, couldn't run over a 2.0 tire on back.) Very fun, cost effective frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie 15 View Post
    Yea the fork is a tank. I run a fargo v.2 on mine no issue. Unfortunatley the new (matte blk current) frame only allows for a 160 rotor, i had the earlier frame and it could take a 140 all the way to a 180 on theback. Last one warrantied due to a bad weld. (crooked, couldn't run over a 2.0 tire on back.) Very fun, cost effective frame.
    I'm not too concerned about the fork weight to be honest. I'm pushing 260lbs so a heavy bike is no biggie to me.

    I had originally planned to use a 180mm rotor on the back but learned the hard way that it was a no go. Luckily I had the 160mm rotor and adaptor lying about in the shop. Would have been nice if Origin8 had specified the rear rotor size restriction. Oh well, I'm still happy with the overall quality / affordability of the frame and fork .

    What generation was the frame you had warrantied? This one looks like there is heaps of room for big tires.
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    Nice build, what's the total weight? My local shop builds all kinds of variations with the Origin8 Scout 29er frame/ parts and they price it from $500-$800 depending on parts used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBuddy View Post
    Nice build, what's the total weight? My local shop builds all kinds of variations with the Origin8 Scout 29er frame/ parts and they price it from $500-$800 depending on parts used.
    I'm not sure of the total weight, I'll have to weigh it soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatchAttack View Post
    I'm not too concerned about the fork weight to be honest. I'm pushing 260lbs so a heavy bike is no biggie to me.

    I had originally planned to use a 180mm rotor on the back but learned the hard way that it was a no go. Luckily I had the 160mm rotor and adaptor lying about in the shop. Would have been nice if Origin8 had specified the rear rotor size restriction. Oh well, I'm still happy with the overall quality / affordability of the frame and fork .

    What generation was the frame you had warrantied? This one looks like there is heaps of room for big tires.
    2nd gen. The gunmetal/green frame, before this was a frameset. The seatstay was welded crooked resulting in the frame basically being twisted. Cleared the chainstay, rubbed on the seatstay. Had to have the wheel be perfectly true to get it to work. Didn't shift well either. Warranty was great, had a new frame in 2 days and the new frame is fantastic. J+B (the supplier) was great and takes care of their coustomers and employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie 15 View Post
    2nd gen. The gunmetal/green frame, before this was a frameset. The seatstay was welded crooked resulting in the frame basically being twisted. Cleared the chainstay, rubbed on the seatstay. Had to have the wheel be perfectly true to get it to work. Didn't shift well either. Warranty was great, had a new frame in 2 days and the new frame is fantastic. J+B (the supplier) was great and takes care of their coustomers and employees.
    Good to know that they stand behind their product should any problem occur.
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    Thought I'd post another Scout (although not rigid). Finally built mine and have about 40 miles so far. Fit is pretty dialed in for me:

    17" scout frame
    2009 Reba SL (new oem)
    Sun Ringle Charger wheelset
    SRAM x-9 shifters and derailleurs running 2x9
    wide Sunline 762 bars
    RaceFace Respond seatpost
    RaceFace Evolve 70mm stem

    Rear wheel is as far forward in the track ends as possible. Handles well for the single track around here and the wheelset is very smooth. These are the widest bars I have used and even after just 3 rides cannot see myself going back to something less. Easily faster on my standard loop than my previous 26".

    Yes - the bar ends are fairly upright, this is my 4th bike where I always end up using them, so they went on right away this time.

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    Re: My Origin 8 Scout 29er build

    Very nice build. Those bars are huge!

    Im just getting some miles on mine now and will post a bit of a review in a few weeks hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikin' Bric View Post
    Very nice build. Those bars are huge!
    I think the picture angle and bar ends amplify the appearance of the size of the bar. I have the grips and controls inward from the absolute widest positions and could trim about 30mm off the bar.

    I have a couple riding friends that are trying to give my bike a bull or steer nickname based on the fact they claim my bike has 'horns'. Oh well - as long as it rides and handles the way I want, I'm not worrying about the overall aesthetic. (Ok, I kind of lied since I do care about colors...)

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    Not to steal the thread, but this is my Scout build. I've got it set up as a single speed now, but that will change soon and become a 1x10 SLX setup.

    Frame: 19" Scout 29er
    Fork: Rockshox Reba RLT 100mm
    Wheels: SLX hubs laced to Sun Inferno 27mm rims *by Snyder Cycles*
    Tires: Specialized Ground Control 29x2.3"
    Cranks: Deore 2 piece
    Bars: Origin8
    Brakes: Shimano M395 Hydro's


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    Re: My Origin 8 Scout 29er build

    Quote Originally Posted by letour32 View Post
    Not to steal the thread, but this is my Scout build. I've got it set up as a single speed now, but that will change soon and become a 1x10 SLX setup.

    Frame: 19" Scout 29er
    Fork: Rockshox Reba RLT 100mm
    Wheels: SLX hubs laced to Sun Inferno 27mm rims *by Snyder Cycles*
    Tires: Specialized Ground Control 29x2.3"
    Cranks: Deore 2 piece
    Bars: Origin8
    Brakes: Shimano M395 Hydro's

    Nice build. How do you like it with the reba fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikin' Bric View Post
    Nice build. How do you like it with the reba fork?
    I love the bike. So much actually that I think I'm going to sell my full suspension 26er and have this as my only mountain bike once I get a 1x10 drivetrain for it.

    As for the Reba fork, It's very nice, but I'd kinda rather have the Recon Silver TK solo air. It was stiffer due to the steel stanctions (I'm a fattie) and the fork came with internal travel adjustment options of 80/100/120. I'm still in the process of tuning the Reba though, so it'll get better with time I assume.
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    Ok Here is Mine:
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    In 1 x 10 mode with a SLX/XT setup

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    These frames are underrated

    It looks like a lot of us have similar ideas with how to set these bikes up as far as parts go, Mine is and will likely only ever be single and rigid

    I'm running the mariachi fork, which is awesome. lots of other little bits in there too king hubs and arch rims.... surly cog and ring...xt brakes..

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    Long Term Review

    So I've had the Origin8 long enough now to put some good rides on it and dial it in. I did some tweaking of the handlbar height and ended up dropping the stem to the bottom with all the spacers up top. Feels nice this way.

    A few things that I've taken from my rides on it:

    -The 32x21 gearing I'm running feels perfect for the trails I ride around here, clips along nicely on the flat and not too hard to climb up the rolling hills.

    -The handling of this bike (with the rigid fork) is FAST. Feels like a 29" wheeled BMX at times. I thought my C-Dale was quick but this bike carves hard, which is good as it lets you keep your speed through the twisty's.

    -The 4130 cro-mo frame has some give in the seatstays which is nice but is very stiff in the bottom bracket area. I'm 250lbs and had no flex issues while standing and mashing.

    -The Origin8 steel fork that came with the frame does have a little flex to it. It was never an issue for me but I knew it was there because of the front brake rotor rubbing from time to time.

    -You can only run a 160mm rotor in the rear. I'd like to run 180 just because thats what I'n used to on my C-Dale but it didn't pose much of a problem. It would be nice if this information was made available by Origin8 on their website.

    -Chain tensioner system works great, no issues from it whatsoever. Do be sure to use a purpose built SS cog, the 21t cog I pulled from an old cassette didn't work out so well as the chain would skip off under load sometimes because of the shift ramps.

    All in all I'd say its a great bargain priced frame that delivers very good performance. Its a solid foundation for a rigid ss, geared hardtail, bikepacking rig, whatever you please.

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    Hi guys...opening an old thread here but I'm a noob with a new Origin8 Scout 29er and I need some help. I just bought a complete bike from a local shop. Took it on it's first ride and lost the chain once. No biggie but it made me start looking at things. Chainline is WAY off. Bike has Deore cranks and Origin8 hubs.

    From what I can tell, rear sprocket needs to be moved to the outside a bunch to straighten the chainline. Front sprocket is 65mm from center of seatpost, which, according to everything I've read, is too much. Also, I can clearly see that if I can bring the front sprocket in more that the rear won't have to be moved nearly as much, obviously.

    Like I said, not my build, but my purchase. I'm thinking the shop doesn't know much about how to set up a single speed, nor do I. But am I wrong, does this all sound OK? By the way, it's geared 36/20, and I suffered on my lone ride thus far..have a 34 on the way.

    I don't know how the front was set up for single speed use....but I can see that there is quite a gap between the bottom bracket (silver part of Deore crankset that says Mountain and BB51 on it) and the crank arm, a gap that isn't in the picture Bikin Bric has of his bike. So did the shop likely use middle or outer ring spacing instead of using inner-most ring?

    Yes, I'm obviously taking it back to the shop, but, based on how they set it up, I'd like to have some "advice" for them to make it right.

    Any help appreciated.

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    Sounds like bottom bracket is too wide. Which deore crank? 590, 591?
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    I just checked...it's a 590

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    And the sprocket is mounted outside the bracket, as if in the 3rd or outside ring of the 3-ring setup. Bikin'Bric, if you happen to read this....is your sprocket mounted on the outside of the bracket in the 3rd ring slot or inside, as if it is the 2nd, or middle, ring?

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    Should be inside. Did you get a non ramped 34t ring?
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    Not sure what that same shop ordered...he ordered it before I left because just the parking lot ride with 36/20 was too much.

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    Re: My Origin 8 Scout 29er build

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    And the sprocket is mounted outside the bracket, as if in the 3rd or outside ring of the 3-ring setup. Bikin'Bric, if you happen to read this....is your sprocket mounted on the outside of the bracket in the 3rd ring slot or inside, as if it is the 2nd, or middle, ring?
    I have it mounted in the 2nd ring position. The 3rd was too far out to get a proper chainline.
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    Thanks Bikin' Bric. I will take this to the shop and hopefully they see the error clearly and can rectify it between moving to 2nd chainring slot and spacing rear sprocket a bit.

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    I will try to take a picture of mine this evening, but in this picture of Bikin' Bric's build, there is no space between the bracket adaptor on the right side and the crank arm/chainring mount. It fits up flush. Mine has 5-10mm of space there, pushing it even further to the right. Is this normal? Could the BB not be installed correctly? Are there spacers inside there spacing it out for some reason?

    My attempt to attach picture did not work, but it is the pic from Bikin' Bric's original post showing the bottom bracket from the left side...you can clearly see the crankarm fits flush to the silver bb adapter. Mine does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lcc View Post
    I will try to take a picture of mine this evening, but in this picture of Bikin' Bric's build, there is no space between the bracket adaptor on the right side and the crank arm/chainring mount. It fits up flush. Mine has 5-10mm of space there, pushing it even further to the right. Is this normal? Could the BB not be installed correctly? Are there spacers inside there spacing it out for some reason?

    My attempt to attach picture did not work, but it is the pic from Bikin' Bric's original post showing the bottom bracket from the left side...you can clearly see the crankarm fits flush to the silver bb adapter. Mine does not.
    sounds like the crank may have been installed wrong. Try to loosen the two pinch bolts on the left arm and tighten up the large end cap bolt to see if it brings the crank in any. It shouldn't take much to pull it together, if this is not working take it back to the shop to be looked at. If you could post some pictures that would be great.
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    Thanks Bikin' Bric. I have already loaded it into the car for trip to the shop. Even if that fixed it I still need to get the 34 tooth so might as well let them try to fix it.

    In the pic of yours that shows the blackspire gear on yours, it looks like your gear is mounted on the outside position. That could just be my eyes, though. Was it in that photo and you switched it later or is it indeed in the center position there? I'm asking because I want to know what I'm talking about.

    I'm posting a pic of the gap mine has on the right side....let's see if this works....Oh, and thanks again for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lcc View Post
    Thanks Bikin' Bric. I have already loaded it into the car for trip to the shop. Even if that fixed it I still need to get the 34 tooth so might as well let them try to fix it.

    In the pic of yours that shows the blackspire gear on yours, it looks like your gear is mounted on the outside position. That could just be my eyes, though. Was it in that photo and you switched it later or is it indeed in the center position there? I'm asking because I want to know what I'm talking about.

    I'm posting a pic of the gap mine has on the right side....let's see if this works....Oh, and thanks again for your help.
    Something is installed wrong there. Its hard to tell but it seems like the crank is not in all the way and there is some foreign object in there.

    I had my chainring mounted on the outside (3rd) position first but there was no way it was going to give me a decent chainline to I switched it to the middle (2nd) position after that photo.
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    Took it back in to get the 34 tooth put on and the chainline looked into. Moved the ring to the 2nd position but he says the Deore crank won't fit up tight like your SLX. He said there's no interior spacers that would space it out like that. Weird. Anyway, with the move and washers it is closer to 52mm, and matches up with the rear pretty darn straight. But there's a very tight spot in the chain, which makes me think the rear sprocket may not be 100% true. It had the tight spot with the 36 and now with the 34 as well. Anyway, at this point I'm going to ride it some and see how it goes. It feels like I may eventually need to go 32/20 or 21 instead of 34/20, just from the parking lot ride. The place I ride is pretty tough, lots of climbs, and I'm no climbing animal, not yet at least, lol!

    Thanks for the help and suggestions. I have learned that you can focus on details so much that you ruin whatever it is you're doing. I'm just going to ride it. It's really a fun bike from the one ride I've had so far. I enjoy the BMX feel from my childhood, jumping off every decent root. It steers very well and feels nimble yet stable.

    It's a budget build, but I got it for a budget price, so I'm really happy. It has Cane Creek headset and Ritchey stem and bar. Also some crazy flame grips of some sort, but they clamp on, so there. It has budget 250 Mach 1 rims with who knows what kind of spokes mated to Origin8 hubs and Geax Seguaro 2.2's. It has, again, budget Hayes MX5 cable brakes which work fine (not great, but fine). A cool thing (not sincerely cool, as according to someone with a $5,000 bike) that carries some half joking but half sincere bling is the Origin8 Propulsion dropper post....heavy and virtually useless, it actually "works" enough to make it fun and a cool addition. It has an Origin8 seat as well, in silver, no less. Oh, and it has a white chain. It's a 29lb piece of basic bicycle, and I think it's way cool.

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    Well, after a year of riding the Origin8 I decided to sell it. I stripped it down and sold the frame and fork to an enthusiastic 29er newbie. The bike was a rocket-ship of the flowing singletrack around here but I found that I just wasn't using it as much as I would have liked. It was a great bike but I kept grabbing the geared bike more often that not and the Origin8 started to collect dust in the mean time. I would rather see someone else get some use out of it than it sit derelict in my shop. Seeing it go was a sad day but I'm sure I'll find another bike to fill in the void. Most likely something a little lighter in the frame and fork departments.
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    Sounds like you gave it a good home for a while.....now you've made somebody else's experience better....win all the way around! I'm still lovin' mine. Origin 8 rear hub and that teflon coated chain are gone....new X9 hub and SRAM chain....this thing is too fun! Glad I have the geared bike for the hilly rides or when I don't want to hike-a-bike in front of a group of other riders, lol! I'm hoping Santa shows up with an Origin8 Black Ops Carbon fork...should make it a little more fun. I got in it cheap and it's honestly, as you know, WAY more fun in the woods than it should be. I know you'll miss yours but I totally get why she's gone. Post the replacement in this thread so I can ogle it!

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