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    My new Alpine Trail 29er

    Finally bit the bullet and bought a new bike after riding my GT Palomar for the last 11 years. I tested quite a few bikes and settled on the Marin Alpine Trail 29er. The kicker is that I found it on ING Direct's online shop for over $200 cheaper (with a 15% off coupon) than any LBS. The catch? It's orange and has a small ING on the top tube. That being said -- I actually dig the orange/yellow color more than the stock red or black. And if saving 220 bucks means ING gets a little free advertising, so be it. I took a couple quick photos of the bike this evening. Hopefully it won't be quite so clean later this week.

    I haven't ridden more than a few miles on it yet so I can't comment on how it handles a real trail, but I took a decent climb on a fire road this afternoon. I'm not sure whether it's simply the effect of riding newer technology, or if it's due to the bigger wheels, or whether it's all in my head but -- DAMN this thing can climb!
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    Yeah, I like those colors too. Looks good. Let us know how it handles the trails.
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    I checked out the ING site, and that is a screaming deal. Do you need to have an account with them to get it?
    I wasn't impressed with the red Alpine I saw in REI, and I actually think that orange is a much nicer color. Something about a wild color and 29'rs seem to work :-)
    I'm looking forward to your ride report!

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    nice ride.

    Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikecito
    I checked out the ING site, and that is a screaming deal. Do you need to have an account with them to get it?
    I wasn't impressed with the red Alpine I saw in REI, and I actually think that orange is a much nicer color. Something about a wild color and 29'rs seem to work :-)
    I'm looking forward to your ride report!

    No, you don't need an ING account to purchase the bike from their website. You do need an account if you want the extra 15% off though.

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    Holy Moly dude! You got a steal! Good job. I don't suppose they put the ING logo under the clear coat so you can't pull it off, did they?

    I got a feeling ING is going be selling a lot of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolandjd
    Holy Moly dude! You got a steal! Good job. I don't suppose they put the ING logo under the clear coat so you can't pull it off, did they?

    I got a feeling ING is going be selling a lot of those things.

    Unfortunately, no -- the decal is on there pretty good.

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    that's a looker! You can always cover that ING logo with another sticker.

    Now, we wait for upgrade-itis to kick in hehe

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    Nice ride, enjoy

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    Post ride report

    Took the bike on a 20 mile ride in to work this morning. About 50% was asphalt and 50% was trail. Overall I'm stoked. The tires grip pretty well, it climbs like a beast, and unless there's a boulder in front of me there isn't a whole lot these wheels can't roll over. I can't say I definitely tell a difference in "rolling resistance" over a standard 26" wheel, but I guess I'd have to do a side-by-side comparison to really see. It also feels just a tad bit less nimble in the corners than a standard bike. And I have to say I'm glad I use clipless pedals because the toe-wheel clearance is almost nonexistent.

    On the downside I think something is wrong with either the rear derailleur or the chain. On the tail end of my ride the chain kept slipping and/or trying to shift (making it hard to keep a good rhythm). It happens after 3 or 4 revolutions of the pedals, same time, every time, preceded by an ever so audible "click". I'm no bike mechanic so I'm going to take it back to the shop who built it and let the professionals figure it out.

    EDIT: Flipped it upside down just for the helluvit and turned the cranks to check things out. Found a stuck link in the chain causing the problem as it went through the rear derailleur. Hopefully a degreasing/re-lube will clear things up.
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    Huh, that's funny. I rode the Alpine Trail on Memorial Day, didn't see you there. I'm talking about the Alpine Trail itself, not the bicycle named after it.

    C'mon up to Oakridge Oregon and ride that nice new bike of yours on its namesake trail.

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    P.S. Opened this thread hoping/expecting to see pics of the trail, ha ha.
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    I thought Marin named all their bikes after places in Marin County?

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    volyblmn -

    That bike looks like a great buy. What size did you get and how tall, etc. are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAWS
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    That bike looks like a great buy. What size did you get and how tall, etc. are you?

    I bought the 17" frame. I'm 5'10" / 185lbs. The 17" seemed a tad small but the 19" didn't leave nearly enough room for the boys if I stepped off the saddle quickly. With the 17 I just moved the seat back a bit on the rail to stretch things out. Fits good now.

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    Thanks for the tip on the deal.
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    I ordered mine from the ING DIRECT site. Should have it next Wednesday. Realizing it's only an entry level bike, I figure for the price ($406 shipped to my door including taxes and S&H), I can afford to ride it this year and get a feel for it and a 29er in general. If I don't like it, (or I really like it), I can sell it next year and upgrade to the next level at a minimal loss.

    Good deal.
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    I'm really liking the look of this bike and getting ready to order one. But does anyone have the coupon code to save 15% ? Thanks

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    Oh snap thanks for the tip! That sure is far less than what REI sells it for.
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    Thanks for that. But I can't get the code to work with my customer #. I just opened a basic saving account, to try and save the 15%. I'll give it a try Monday, and if it still won't work will just go ahead and order it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asheck
    Thanks for that. But I can't get the code to work with my customer #. I just opened a basic saving account, to try and save the 15%. I'll give it a try Monday, and if it still won't work will just go ahead and order it anyway.

    Just email the Shop ING Customer Support folks and let them know you're having problems using a 15% off coupon code. (I never actually sent them the exact code I was trying to use, so I think it's probably a common problem.) Someone should get back to you within a few hours and will most likely tell you to just order the bike and respond with your customer number and order number, then they'll issue a 15% credit after-the-fact.

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    ^^^^ That's what I did. It worked fine.

    Here's my initial feelings about the bike.

    For starters, I'd take it to your LBS and have them do a once over on it before you ride. My rims were not true, the bottom bracket was a bit loose and the rear cassette was also loose. Just because it's brand new, doesn't mean that the factory put it together right. My tune-up was $60. For the price of the bike, adding another $60 is still well worth it.

    1. Frame is great. Seems stiff and geometry fits me well. I'm 6' and 180lbs (yes I need to loose a bit of weight ). The bike seems light and agile on the trail. I had no problems with the single track riding I was doing.
    2. I can't emphasis the paint job enough. It is really cool. The base color is yellow and has an orange over spray covered by clear coat. It's sharp. According to the fellow that I talked to at Marin, ING paid extra for the paint job. It ain't no ghey white bike.....it's a darn good color .
    3. The Hayes brakes are nice. They work flawlessly (even in the 2' of water I was riding in on Saturday). It took me 2 hours to dry, clean and re-grease the bike Saturday night.
    4. The Dart 3 shock is entry level. I'm all ready having issues with my lockout. It simply doesn't work right. I still get plenty of travel in the lockout position. When not using the lockout, shock works fine for lighter trail riding. I really don't think it's going to hold up on the rocks here in Central PA. I'll probably upgrade at some point to a Fox.
    5. The tires are a soft compound. They stick great to the trail......however, don't expect to get more than a season out of them.
    6. Grips are so-so. I'll probably upgrade at some point to OURY's or maybe even try a pair of ERGON's.
    7. Shifting can at times miss. But....for the most part the Alivio's do their job. Time will tell.
    8. The platform pedals that came with are for your kids bike. Don't even bother putting them on. Go get a decent pair of clipless. No complaint here. Most bikes don't come with pedals anyway and the manufacturer assumes that you are going to put the pedals that you like on the bike anyway.

    Bottom line: For the $$$, I don't think that you can better entry level 29er anywhere. My total cost was like $406 shipped to my door. Add the $60 tune-up, and I'm at $466. The bike does what I want it to do and it fits me great.
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    Just got mine ordered tonight. Pretty hard to throw down money on a bike I never got to sit on. Hopefully the 19 works out for me.
    Anyone know how long was shipping from ING?

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    Ordered 6/3. Recieved on 6/10. I live in PA. Bike was shipped from California.

    Like I said, I'm 6'. I ordered a 19". It fits me great.

    Did you get the 15% off??
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    Thanks for the quick reply. I never could get the code to work. They said they would credit me the 15% back, just go ahead and order it. I'm in KS, halfway in between so hopefully it will be less then a week.

    How much assembly was involved?

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    i really dig the color... for the price it would be an awesome way to get into cycling on a 29er...
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    Quote Originally Posted by herrhaus
    ^^^^ 4. The Dart 3 shock is entry level. I'm all ready having issues with my lockout. It simply doesn't work right. I still get plenty of travel in the lockout position. When not using the lockout, shock works fine for lighter trail riding. I really don't think it's going to hold up on the rocks here in Central PA. I'll probably upgrade at some point to a Fox. [/B]
    Common problem with RS Darts, You may need a new crush washer on the bolt on the bottom of the right fork leg. Have the shop check it and add a bit more fluid to the damper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom
    Common problem with RS Darts, You may need a new crush washer on the bolt on the bottom of the right fork leg. Have the shop check it and add a bit more fluid to the damper.
    Funny thing, it was that way right out of the box. Yes, eventually I'll do that. Right now.....it's busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asheck
    Thanks for the quick reply. I never could get the code to work. They said they would credit me the 15% back, just go ahead and order it. I'm in KS, halfway in between so hopefully it will be less then a week.

    How much assembly was involved?
    Not too bad....however, refer to my earlier post (the long one above).
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    Got mine today. Took it in for the tune up, and even got a 5 mile road ride in on it. So far so good. This thing is almost like cheating compared to the old pos I was riding. I'll be hitting some trails on Saturday, and will have a much better idea of what this really performs like.
    You just can't understand the coloring of this bike till you see it. It turns about 10 colors depending on how you look at it. Guys at the LBS were pretty impressed.

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    Good find!
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    It looks like mine will see the Wilderness 101 this year. While I have big plans......hopefully my "training" will be adequate enough to finish. I am optimistic.

    I plan on removing the 3rd chain ring and replacing with bash guard. I need both the clearance and the durability. Lots of rocks here in PA.

    I'm also replacing the seat. It reminds me of a tractor seat....on long rides, it hurts after a while.

    BEWARE: Broke the chain last week. A normal 8-speed sram speed links do NOT work on the chain form some reason. We even tried a 9-speed link to no avail. I had to fix the old fashion way (remove a link and re-pin). I plan on buying a decent chain for it as well.
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    Some pictures......

    Been meaning to do this for a while. Here are a few pics. Sorry about the "office" background. I drove to work today on my 1WD vehicle.......
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    More ride reports please.
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    Here's one......

    http://www.nittanymba.org/component/...,6653/catid,3/

    All fun aside....I still think the bike is a great value. I've had it on some tough trails (by eastern standards). My paint job is all ready all scratched and banged up, but it's doing the job it was intended for. I have a new seat on order. I have a new chain (SRAM PC-870) on order. I'd love to get rid of the 3rd chain ring and replace with a bash gaurd....or just get rid of all together. I keep smashing it on the rocks and trees. Not enough clearance.
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    Mines only been on easy stuff. But so far I like it alot. I thought the deraillures would need upgraded quickly, but they actually aren't as bad as I was expecting, neither is the fork.
    I have found some of the strengths of the 29s.Me and some buddies went out last weekend on some trails that had a little glaze of mud in spots. The guys on 26s got smoked, and both went down. The extra traction came through.
    BTW does anybody have one that didn't come from ING?

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    I was in a local bike race here and one fellow had a bright red 2009 Alpine Trail 29er. I rode up next to him and said "hey, nice bike you got there". We talked a bit.....I told him I got a great deal on it. He says "Yeah me too, I only paid $650 for it". I just looked at him and "Oh really".
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    I'm interested in this bike, but it seems ING only sells it in a 17" or a 19". At 6'4" I'm thinking the 19 would be too small. I hate to have to pay $300 more to get a larger size

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    Helluva good find guys.

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    Agreed.

    I was just about to order it until I found a Cobia local on craigslist.

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    Good Gawd is this really legit?? I was eye balling the fire engine red version at REI just the other day??!! I mean seriously??? Same stuff?? Alivio components?? Seems like a s-t-e-a-l for what it is!

    I'm 5'10, 180lbs currently riding a 19inch specialized hardrock... would you guys suggest the 17 or 19in? thanks=)

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    Yes. Identical....just a much BETTER color (well that's my opinion anyway). My inseam is 32". I can tell you that if I was shorter, I think I'd have an issue with my "parts". For some reason, I can't seem to find the 2009 Marin Sizing chart....so I just went out and measured my 19" frame.

    The distance to the top tube is 30.5" @ the seat tube.....however, the top quickly climbs as you travel towards the headset. The distance to the top tube where you actually stand is 31.5"......So keep that in mind.

    I think I'd go for the 17" if I were you.
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    Remember, this is an entry level bike. Alivio components, the Dart fork and the wheel set are all the lower end stuff. Also keep in mind, it is an 8-speed.......not a nine.

    Given the amount of serious riding that I have been doing weekly and the type of trails that I've been subjecting the bike too, I am finding that the bike will probably not stand up to continuous use. I ride in very rocky terrain (for eastern standards). My rims are not holding up to it. I've also noted a few issues with mine in an earlier post (above).

    However, with all that said, I think if you're not riding it on really ruff trails nor are you putting nearly 80 miles on it per week.....I still think it's a fantastic deal. It get's you on a 29er at a really reasonable price.

    Another nice thing, because parts are on the lower end of the scale…..replacing them is also a bit less expensive. I just replaced the rear derailer with a brand new one for $30 (on ebay).
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    I'm 5'10, and have the 19. Still not totally sure I made the right choice, my boys could suffer from a slip off. But from what I could find the standover is not that different, and with my feet on the pedals I'm happy.
    I to, think this bike is a steal. The components may not be the best, but you have to get in the $800+ range to really beat what you get.

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    When you buy the 17".......If you need to stretch out a bit more, just purchase a longer stem. I have a friend who has the 17" and he's 6'. He got a bit longer stem and that seemed to work ok for him.
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    So it sounds like the 19" isn't out of the question for someone who is 6'4" with a 34" inseam?

    If that is the case, who are the 20.5" and 22" frames made for ?

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    Go find an REI near you and hop on one and see. That's the best I can say.
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    anyone know if ING still has these bikes for sale?? I looked on the website and could not find them any where.
    Thanks Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by 06whitetaco
    anyone know if ING still has these bikes for sale?? I looked on the website and could not find them any where.
    Thanks Ben

    https://shop.ingdirect.com/Product_D...42412F134CBF0E

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    Any issues with toe overlap on the 17"?

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