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    My Moots 29er Rocketship

    Picked up this bad boy a couple of weeks ago .... super fast / super agile. Very happy with the bike.

    2012 Moots MootoX RSL frame
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    Has about 6 rides in on it and already a couple of battle scars but wanted to post a few pics before heading out in an hour for my traditional Thanksgiving ride.










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    WOW! that is all, just WOW!

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    Looks like about as nice bike as there is !
    Is the bending of the downtube designed to increase BB stiffness ? Does it work well ?

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    put shimano on it and I would JIMP

    damn nice bike, I have always had a soft spot for Moots

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    *drool*

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    Very nice! Needs a Moots Post and Stem! Just Kidding. I'm in the process of getting a 2012 Mooto-X YBB single speed right now! I had one before and sold it then later decided it was my favorite bike ever (live and learn and spend!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by knutso View Post
    Looks like about as nice bike as there is !
    Is the bending of the downtube designed to increase BB stiffness ? Does it work well ?
    Top bend is for fork crown clearance. The bottom bend supposedly adds stiffness but after speaking with Moots it became clear that the botttom bend was done more for asthetics than anything else. Big change for '12 was to modify the overall geometry to
    use 100mm of fork travel. Previously it was designed for 80mm.

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    That is a lot of bling you got there!!

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    Looks expensive.

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    That's a really nice bike... but why so much setback of the saddle and such a long stem? - Frame to short?

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    Awesome. With that level of money spent, is there a reason you didn't go with XX over X0?

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    Hey look! Someone with just as long of femurs as mine.

    I'm right on the cusp of only fitting custom frames, but a layback post and the saddle all the way back seems to be alright as long as the seat tube is 73* or less.

    VERY nice ride. I'm saving my pennies for some ENVE/CK wheels.

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    Sweet Jesus!

    Hell of a build there. From frame to parts you picked ... super sweet!!!

    One question,

    What is the actual height of the bottom bracket?
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    It's nice to be able to buy the equivalent of a Formula 1 car for less than $10K.

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    That's sweet!!

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    WOW....
    Very nice.

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    Looks fancy What's it weigh?
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    Nice. Like to see the use of matchmakers, really clean up the cockpit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drea View Post
    That's a really nice bike... but why so much setback of the saddle and such a long stem? - Frame to short?
    Frame was professionally fit to me and the stem length is 110mm which from my perspective is pretty average ... certainly not long ( stem lengths typically range between 90mm - 140mm). Moots 29er frames are designed for layback posts and I also wanted as small a frame as possible that I could be comfortably fitted to. Finally, as another poster astutely noted I have long legs and a short torso and this frame size suited me best.

    Quote Originally Posted by kardy View Post
    Awesome. With that level of money spent, is there a reason you didn't go with XX over X0?
    Went with X0 given the weight savings compared to XX are minimal and X0 is supposedly more durable. Given my intention to race the bike but also use it for normal riding as well I opted for X0 / grater durability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ottoreni View Post
    Hell of a build there. From frame to parts you picked ... super sweet!!!

    One question,

    What is the actual height of the bottom bracket?
    Per Moots website BB height is 11.875"

    Quote Originally Posted by noot View Post
    Looks fancy What's it weigh?
    Weighs ~ 22.5lbs which is not uber light but it has a pretty heavy set of tires on it right now with lots of Stans. Will drop easily 1lb when switched over to race tire set up.

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    nice build, I'm loving the enve and king parts mated to that sweet moots frame.
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    Sweet ride bro! I happened to stop by the shop when Rob was putting your bike together. The pics don't do it justice. Besides the obvious money frame, I love the wheels you went with. Enjoy the ride!

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    True BB Height

    It might be 11.875" on Moots website, but I was curious what was your actual height.

    Don't know if it is the camera angle, but it just looks higher than the 11.875" on the website. Just curious as to what was the real world height.

    Regardless, super looking build.
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    Moots with total Enve cockpit is my dream bike! Love the curvy downtube - IMO the best 29er I've seen on this forum.

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    That is absolutely perfect!! I wouldn't change a thing.

    Enjoy!

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    It's a beautiful frame but the frame and stem position make it look like it might be too small for you.

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    Im touching myself... luckily for you and your bike, Im at the other side of the atlantic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Agenda View Post
    It's nice to be able to buy the equivalent of a Formula 1 car for less than $10K.
    I agree that it is a very nice bike & I would be very proud to own it & for a HT I bet it rides nice.

    However it is some way off what would be a F1 type bike build, It would need to be a Carbon FS bike with top end gear like None cable type gear shifting & things like 1 piece bar & stem combo type things.

    That said it is for sure one of the nicest HT bikes I have ever seen & going for the carbon rims that will make speed & not getting hung up on needing to go to XX that is lighter but may not do much for speed over the X0 does show it is a very smart build & X0 looks better than XX as well..

    I would however like to see the XX rotors & the Ti rotor bolts on it.
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    Awesome frame. Is that a tapered headtube?

    Also, cannot un-see that slammed saddle. Looks wrong, but hey, if that is what you like, ride on man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottoreni View Post
    It might be 11.875" on Moots website, but I was curious what was your actual height.

    Don't know if it is the camera angle, but it just looks higher than the 11.875" on the website. Just curious as to what was the real world height.

    Regardless, super looking build.
    You are right ... just measured the BB height and it's ~ 12.5 " ... 5/8" higher than published on the Moots website although not sure if the Nobby Nicks contributed to the added height.

    Quote Originally Posted by erol/frost View Post
    Awesome frame. Is that a tapered headtube?

    Also, cannot un-see that slammed saddle. Looks wrong, but hey, if that is what you like, ride on man
    No ... not a tapered headtube although the fork has a tapered steerer tube hence the external lower bearing and inset upper bearing on the CK headset. Changes the geometry slightly although I could adjust the fork travel down to 90mm to compensate. To be honest I'm not sure I could tell the difference in the geometry triggered by the external lower bearing and I haven't gone to the trouble to determine the fork sag which might partially compensate for the external lower but given it rides great I'll probably leave it as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cusco View Post
    You are right ... just measured the BB height and it's ~ 12.5 " ... 5/8" higher than published on the Moots website although not sure if the Nobby Nicks contributed to the added height.
    It'd be close if one considers fork sag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Agenda View Post
    It'd be close if one considers fork sag.
    Good point ... I didn't consider fork sag ... thanks.

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    ( stem lengths typically range between 90mm - 140mm).

    vary nice bike, vary nice. methinks normal stem lengths range between 50-90mm for mountain bikes. 140 is unsane.

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    good luck with that seat not rotating backwards, nice bike though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunningstunts View Post
    ( stem lengths typically range between 90mm - 140mm).

    vary nice bike, vary nice. methinks normal stem lengths range between 50-90mm for mountain bikes. 140 is unsane.
    I thought it would be pretty apparent from the pictures but this is a XC bike not AM nor DH ... XC = long and low. 90mm on a XC bike is short let alone 50mm???

    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    good luck with that seat not rotating backwards, nice bike though.
    Given the rig already has 17+ hours on it and nothings moved I'm not too worried about it. Also .. I'm not exactly a fly weight at 185lbs

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    Thats powerball money......now what? Thats the bling of bling...I'm jealous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cusco View Post
    I thought it would be pretty apparent from the pictures but this is a XC bike not AM nor DH ... XC = long and low. 90mm on a XC bike is short let alone 50mm???
    50mm in 2011 = 110mm in 1992

    110mm in 2011 = 140mm in 1992

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    Very nice. Enjoy your new bike.

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    Sweet ride!
    What size is the frame?

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    Very sweet! don't like the ENVE bars at all, you may keep them!

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    Really nice bike, although I do agree that the stem looks long, and the seat looks wrong. But since you like it that way, it doesn't really matter how it looks...

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    Wow... my bike is somehow inadequate now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cunningstunts View Post
    ( stem lengths typically range between 90mm - 140mm).

    vary nice bike, vary nice. methinks normal stem lengths range between 50-90mm for mountain bikes. 140 is unsane.
    Quote Originally Posted by veteran_youth View Post
    50mm in 2011 = 110mm in 1992

    110mm in 2011 = 140mm in 1992
    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt79m View Post
    Really nice bike, although I do agree that the stem looks long, and the seat looks wrong. But since you like it that way, it doesn't really matter how it looks...
    Guys - you might want to contact Lance, Levi, Todd Wells and Jeremiah Bishop and tell them they have their cockpits set up all wrong and there stems are too long Given their Pro status, deep pockets and big sponsors I'm sure they would welcome your input. Their set-ups are sooooo early 90's

    Todd Wells 29er rig that won Leadville this year - 105mm Syntace stem:



    Lance's 26er rig that won Leadville in 2009 - 120mm Bontrager XXX lite stem



    Jeremiah Bishop's Cannondale 29er - 120mm Cannodale Xc3 stem (he placed top 10 at Leadville this year)



    Levi Leipheimer's 26er rig that won Leadville in 2010 - 110MM Bontrager XXX lite stem with a slammed saddle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cusco View Post
    Guys - you might want to contact Lance, Levi, Todd Wells and Jeremiah Bishop and tell them they have their cockpits set up all wrong and there stems are too long Given their Pro status, deep pockets and big sponsors I'm sure they would welcome your input. Their set-ups are sooooo early 90's
    I'll bet that everybody that thinks your stem looks long thinks you should pick a stem based on handling over fit.

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    Really sick bike. Doesn't need XX, X0 is just as nice and looks better.

    Sorry to harp on the seat thing, but don't you get a rhythmic bouncing when pedaling seated ? I did on my last bike with a long 27.2 thomson post. Don't know if the enve piece is stiff or flexy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    Really sick bike. Doesn't need XX, X0 is just as nice and looks better.

    Sorry to harp on the seat thing, but don't you get a rhythmic bouncing when pedaling seated ? I did on my last bike with a long 27.2 thomson post. Don't know if the enve piece is stiff or flexy...
    Thanks ... I also like the look of the X0 in black vs. the XX. I don't have any problems with my pedal stroke in terms of bouncing and try to keep my cadence pretty high. The Enve post is stiff put provides good vibration damping. I have been using Edge / Enve components for a few years now and have nothing but good things to say in terms of quality and durability ... definately top notch componentry

    BTW - I'm 5'9" tall with disproportionately long lengs (33.5" inseam) and a short torso. The 110mm stem and setback post with a 23" effective TT length just seems to wok for me. Bike feels very comfortable and handles great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by customfab View Post
    I'll bet that everybody that thinks your stem looks long thinks you should pick a stem based on handling over fit.
    Personally, I'd choose both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cusco View Post
    Guys - you might want to contact Lance, Levi, Todd Wells and Jeremiah Bishop and tell them they have their cockpits set up all wrong and there stems are too long Given their Pro status, deep pockets and big sponsors I'm sure they would welcome your input. Their set-ups are sooooo early 90's
    Travis Brown's Leadville setup: undisputedly early 90's.

    Horses for courses! Honestly I do not think that a 110mm stem is abnormally long, and I don't want to come off as ragging on your bike. But to say that 140mm is a common contemporary stem size for mtbs now I think is a bit of a stretch. (no pun intended) I think 110 is currently the longest that most people run assuming they have a properly sized frame.

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