Monocog 29er

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  • 04-06-2006
    shiggy
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    Monocog 29er
    The production bikes are due next week!

    This is the 17" pre-production bike
    Attachment 155519

    I took it for a very short spin. Felt nice and I liked the fit. Should be spot-on with my dropbars.
  • 04-07-2006
    yagimax
    Monocog
    Thanks Shiggy.

    Love the stealth black look. Hopefully it will be the production color as well.
  • 04-07-2006
    mtbzone
    Thanks for stopping by the Redline pit today Shiggy!

    The Redline Monocog 29er will be on display throughout this weekend at the Sea Otter Classic just in case others want to check it out in person.

    Mike
    Redline Bicycles
  • 04-07-2006
    ParkerFly
    Cranks?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbzone
    Thanks for stopping by the Redline pit today Shiggy!

    The Redline Monocog 29er will be on display throughout this weekend at the Sea Otter Classic just in case others want to check it out in person.

    Mike
    Redline Bicycles


    What cranks will come on the production. Was planning to upgrade them until I heard Truvativ might be one there. Thanks.
  • 04-07-2006
    ParkerFly
    is it just me
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shiggy
    The production bikes are due next week!

    This is the 17" pre-production bike
    Attachment 155519

    I took it for a very short spin. Felt nice and I liked the fit. Should be spot-on with my dropbars.

    or do the 17" here and the 19" on the website look almost exactly the same? Maybe it's just a camera trick deal.
  • 04-07-2006
    MMcG
    Do they make a size smaller than 17"? Shiggy, would you go with the 17" frame because of your preference for a long stem and drop bars?
  • 04-07-2006
    mtbzone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ParkerFly
    What cranks will come on the production. Was planning to upgrade them until I heard Truvativ might be one there. Thanks.

    The cranks on the production Monocog 29er are made by RPM.

    mike
  • 04-07-2006
    mtbzone
    There will be a smaller frame size available...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MMcG
    Do they make a size smaller than 17"? Shiggy, would you go with the 17" frame because of your preference for a long stem and drop bars?

    The Redline Monocog 29er will be available in 15", 17" and 19" sizes.
  • 04-07-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MMcG
    Do they make a size smaller than 17"? Shiggy, would you go with the 17" frame because of your preference for a long stem and drop bars?

    I would prefer a slightly longer stem on the stock 17" I rode but I did not feel cramped at all.

    I guessed the 17" would fit me based on the ST angle and the ETT length (which is the same as the 19" Monocog 26er). I was right.
  • 04-07-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbzone
    The cranks on the production Monocog 29er are made by RPM.

    mike

    Mike, Who is RPM? I have not heard of them before.

    (Square taper! YEA! :) Four arm! BOOOOO! :mad: )
  • 04-08-2006
    vapors2k
    I'll be patiently waiting to hear feedback on this bike. I'm selling my Turner Burner and looking for a single speed 29er. Can't wait!
  • 04-08-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shiggy
    Mike, Who is RPM? I have not heard of them before.

    (Square taper! YEA! :) Four arm! BOOOOO! :mad: )

    I asked Mike today. RPM is mainly an OEM component manufacturer. Good basic parts at a good price.
  • 04-08-2006
    johnnyb
    The color is a dark green. Still nice.
  • 04-08-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnnyb
    The color is a dark green. Still nice.

    though it can look black in some lighting. It is a nice color.
  • 04-09-2006
    Redline Bicycles
    RPM components are entry level cranksets from FSA (Th Industries - Taiwan). We've been running them on the 26" Monocogs for 4-5 years with no reports of any problems. Good stuff and affordable.

    Monocog 29er sizes are 15,17,19 and 21".

    Craig - Redline
  • 04-09-2006
    Fast Freddy
    Is the front wheel on the 29 a Q/R or bolt on style? Just wondering... I'm hoping to receive mine by the end of next week.... and it is disc brake ready right... the set of Avids I have laying here need nothing else (except new cables and housing) to get going...

    Thanks
    FF
  • 04-09-2006
    johnnyb
    I think its quick release based on the end of the axle in the picture.
    I'm waiting for mine too, ordered in San Francisco week and a half ago (19").
    Its beginning to feel a bit like Christmas.
  • 04-10-2006
    Redline Bicycles
    FF,
    The front wheel uses a QR and both F/R hubs are disc ready. Monocog 29er's WILL hit us this week. We'll do a quick QC and start to ship immediattly there after.

    Thanks,
    Craig - Redline
  • 04-10-2006
    CJones
    Thanks Shiggy and gOrk for all the info!

    Will the Monocog 29er be available as a frame and fork?
  • 04-10-2006
    Redline Bicycles
    Yes, There will be a small number of frame and fork sets expected also this week.
  • 04-10-2006
    banzai
    How do I go about having my LBS order some these complete bikes for the shop to sell?
  • 04-10-2006
    Redline Bicycles
    Banzai,
    I have heard of some shops not wanting to stock 29er's on their floors yet, big bummer....

    If you tell me where you are, I can point you in best direction to get one. Any shop that sells Redline Bicycles can order for you. Let me know.....

    Craig - Redline
  • 04-10-2006
    BIKERDAD36
    monocog 29er lost at sea?
    It seems as though the monocog 29er has not arrived into port in seattle. According to seattle bike supply the ship is still out to sea. I hope the name of the ship was'nt the titanic.. anyway I guess they will be here when the get here.What is it they say about a watched pot never boils..bikerdad36
  • 04-10-2006
    Dave.
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    I really hope Redline does well with this bike because they've got such a significant sentimental history for anyone who rode BMX through the years. Who didn't lust after a set of Redline Flights, right? Good on them for breaking out what looks to be a great 29er ride at a great pricepoint.

    Pic of my Redline (which unfortunately collects quite a bit of dust in the garage :()
  • 04-10-2006
    ShinKen
    Anaheim, CA <-----:D
  • 04-10-2006
    ShinKen
    :eek:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Redline Bicycles
    Banzai,
    I have heard of some shops not wanting to stock 29er's on their floors yet, big bummer....

    If you tell me where you are, I can point you in best direction to get one. Any shop that sells Redline Bicycles can order for you. Let me know.....

    Craig - Redline

    Anaheim, CA <-----:D
  • 04-10-2006
    Fast Freddy
    Craig -

    Is the first batch of bike enough to fill the orders - or will there be outstanding orders on back order after the first batch of complete bikes arrive?

    Thanks
    Fred
  • 04-10-2006
    Redline Bicycles
    FF,
    I have been told that number of outstanding orders we already have out number the amount of units we have coming in on the first shipments. Our initial forecasts were blown out of the water....... are you from a shop???

    Craig - Redline
  • 04-10-2006
    ParkerFly
    Thank God
    I talked to my Redline rep today and he said I'll get one for sure. I was a bit worried.
  • 04-10-2006
    Fast Freddy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Redline Bicycles
    are you from a shop???
    Craig - Redline

    No - BikerBob.com out of Ohio was getting me one - I ordered with him approx a month ago and didn't know how it worked if the orders were back ordered in the way they were placed - or they just show up instock and then its the mad dash to get a bike ordered....

    Thanks
    Fred
  • 04-10-2006
    sgrady11
    Crap. My shop hasn't called back to ask for the deposit so I'm sure they haven't even placed the order for mine. Bye bye bicycle.

    Looks like I'll be getting that cross bike after all...
  • 04-10-2006
    ParkerFly
    No dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sgrady11
    Crap. My shop hasn't called back to ask for the deposit so I'm sure they haven't even placed the order for mine. Bye bye bicycle.

    Looks like I'll be getting that cross bike after all...

    My rep at SBS said tomorrow before official orders can be placed. They're not in the system yet today. Also, more coming May 1. Don't give up hope.
  • 04-10-2006
    F5000sl
    Is the price really under $600?
    That is a sweet price for a good look'n 29r. Good going Redline!
  • 04-10-2006
    BruceBrown
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Redline Bicycles
    FF,
    I have been told that number of outstanding orders we already have out number the amount of units we have coming in on the first shipments. Our initial forecasts were blown out of the water....... are you from a shop???

    Craig - Redline

    Wow! Don't stick a fork in it yet!

    Not a bad problem to get blown out of the water on your initial forecasts. Looks like demand continues to pressure the supply.

    BB
  • 04-10-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by F5000sl
    Is the price really under $600?
    That is a sweet price for a good look'n 29r. Good going Redline!

    The MSRP is under $500!
  • 04-10-2006
    F5000sl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shiggy
    The MSRP is under $500!

    Well hot damn! I thought is was going to be more than the 26" version.
    Maybe I should've waited and saved myself some $$ from the OnOne.
    (Not to say I don't like the OnOne, but @ 1/2 the price!)
  • 04-11-2006
    Cloxxki
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Wow! Don't stick a fork in it yet!

    Not a bad problem to get blown out of the water on your initial forecasts. Looks like demand continues to pressure the supply.

    BB

    Redline even doubled the first shipments after positive responses in the 29" media (here). Something for other manufactueres to learn from. Before they do, we'll just all get an extra Redline which we dearly need for...well you know...
    Unfortunately the 29" climate in Europe is not yet such that we'll see them rolling here. People are not afraid to own 1+ bikes, and the price could really make them give 29" a go.

    Perhaps we'll have to run a poll to see where these Monocog 29ers are going : extra bike for already-converts, or someone's first 29", perhaps first 29SS.
    I hope some also are for the actual shop floor, dealers that are converts themselves but don't have a public to sell expensive bikes to.
  • 04-11-2006
    DnA362
    Im new to the 29'er world, curious how this bike at this price relates to the "you get what you pay for" saying?
    Im interested in giving a 29'er a try, but want quality products, specially on the trail.
    My lbs can get me one as stated above for under 500$ which almost scares me...
  • 04-11-2006
    jace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DnA362
    My lbs can get me one as stated above for under 500$ which almost scares me...


    No worries.

    While it's prudent to be wary of new products, the 26er Monocog has been on the market for years, and despite an even lower msrp than the 29er, has developed a favorable reputation and a strong following. You may sacrafice some durability at this price point, but more likely the only significant penalty will be weight.
  • 04-11-2006
    vapors2k
    If weight has been stated already, disregard my question but what is the weight of the 17" setup if available?
  • 04-11-2006
    El Caballo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DnA362
    My lbs can get me one as stated above for under 500$ which almost scares me...

    Gears and suspension forks cost a lot. Leave them off and you can make a solid bike very cheaply.

    If anyone in the East Bay (CA) gets one, come by and we can do a trail shootout with my BM Flyer. Retail cost is just about the same.
  • 04-11-2006
    GlowBoy
    Agreed, the 26" Monocog has been around for a long time and is very well regarded. It (and its components) are built like a tank, which means it's quite heavy for a rigid V-brake singlespeed but also indestructible. I'm sure the 29" version will be a very hot seller.
  • 04-11-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DnA362
    Im new to the 29'er world, curious how this bike at this price relates to the "you get what you pay for" saying?
    Im interested in giving a 29'er a try, but want quality products, specially on the trail.
    My lbs can get me one as stated above for under 500$ which almost scares me...

    The old adage "strong, light, cheap: pick two" applies here.

    The Monocog (26 and 29) is not light. The parts are reasonably durable and mostly house branded. They will do the job. No bling. Few special features (no EBB or sliding dropouts, no shaped tubing, no suspension). You do get a disc ready bike which is a cool at this price point.

    The main thing you get with more expensive bikes is less weight and more features.
    This is a bike (like the 26er is) many will buy to test the 29er waters. If and when they like the big wheels (and singlespeed) they upgrade to a fancy bike.

    Then there are the bike junkies like me who are getting one as a "backup" bike because it is such a good deal and it can be loaned out to friends. A bike to ride and trash and not worry about.
  • 04-12-2006
    johnnyb
    I've had a 26 monocog for several years now. I bought the frame and fork for like an unreal $109 bucks online. Parts off a busted stumpjumper and liked singlespeeding but now its my modified 3-speed with a Nexus wheel. Nice bike with a kick brake!

    The steel frame rides really smooth. I didn't notice a weight gain compared to my old stumpjumper, even though it was about four pounds heavier at around 27 pounds on a bathroom scale. But I was more concentrated on adjusting to a singlespeed style, and I feel the 29er is going to be a lot of fun. I like the 32-20 for the hills in Marin, maybe a 22 for the ridges.

    My LBS said later this week.
  • 04-12-2006
    Angus
    Well It doesn't look like I am in the first round of Monocog fun :(

    Just touched base with the LBS that handles Redline and they weren't sure if they where going to be able to get one from the first batch (even though I put a Deposit down on Jan 16th) It probally has alot to due with the fact its a small low volume bike shop, and they are nice but laid back , meaning no Balls.....


    I heard him call his rep or distributor or whatever they have and he just kindly asked, and was told his order wasn't near the top of the list he basically said ok and left it at that.

    if I don't get it quick I might just wait for the Haro Mary SS....
  • 04-12-2006
    sgrady11
    I'm in the same boat. I'm going to go find out about this Haro Mary right now.

    I called my LBS twice over the weekend, they said they would call Redline and get back to me if I need to bring them the deposit cash, still no word. They don't seem too interested in helping me out, I don't know if they realize how popular of a bike this is turning out to be.

    Maybe I'm going to have to look on the Redline site and find a different dealer.

    Until then, the cash is currently going to be set aside to order an IRO Rob Roy...just waiting for the LBS to call and tell me they can't get one...(yes I am being very positive about this)
  • 04-12-2006
    shiggy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Angus
    Well It doesn't look like I am in the first round of Monocog fun :(

    Just touched base with the LBS that handles Redline and they weren't sure if they where going to be able to get one from the first batch (even though I put a Deposit down on Jan 16th) It probally has alot to due with the fact its a small low volume bike shop, and they are nice but laid back , meaning no Balls.....


    I heard him call his rep or distributor or whatever they have and he just kindly asked, and was told his order wasn't near the top of the list he basically said ok and left it at that.

    if I don't get it quick I might just wait for the Haro Mary SS....

    The second shipment of MCs is due May 1.

    The target date for the Mary is August assuming not too many changes are needed from the preproduction frames.
  • 04-12-2006
    johnnyb
    Bummin :^(
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Angus
    Well It doesn't look like I am in the first round of Monocog fun :(

    Just touched base with the LBS that handles Redline and they weren't sure if they where going to be able to get one from the first batch (even though I put a Deposit down on Jan 16th) It probally has alot to due with the fact its a small low volume bike shop, and they are nice but laid back , meaning no Balls.....


    I heard him call his rep or distributor or whatever they have and he just kindly asked, and was told his order wasn't near the top of the list he basically said ok and left it at that.

    if I don't get it quick I might just wait for the Haro Mary SS....


    I paid the whole amount in the middle of March for the monocog.

    Now, my LBS called me again today just to say that I'll have to wait another two weeks instead of the end of the week before I can get my sweaty hands on this bike. Nice shop manager taking care of his customers. :o

    Thank God its been raining like a MF, so its not too bad waiting....
  • 04-13-2006
    ShinKen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DnA362
    Im new to the 29'er world, curious how this bike at this price relates to the "you get what you pay for" saying?
    Im interested in giving a 29'er a try, but want quality products, specially on the trail.
    My lbs can get me one as stated above for under 500$ which almost scares me...


    :D I'm just like this guy only difference is that I'm new to the SS design as well!! I'm thinking of buying this bike but had a few questions like where in the site can I find out the standover and TT legnth? WHat is it for the 17", 19 or Medium for the 29ers?

    I have two Jamis w/these top tube #s
    17" 05 XLT=22.5"
    19" 03 dakar=23.75" <--great help from my friend Kam

    I'm 5-9 and weight 210 pounds (or somwhere around the ballpark:D )
    second question is can u put a diff fork on this bike to make it semi plush?

    again, I'm very new to the Design and only been on the trails for a little over 5years!! this will be my first stiff SS bike so I got very little knowledge.:p
  • 04-13-2006
    Cloxxki
    Are your top tubes measured effectively or actually? Sounds like you want the 17" Redline, it will be fine. If will handle wour weight no-problem, it's got lots of steel in it.
    The fork is suspension-corrected. For semi-plush you may also just consider different handlebars. At least Ti H-Bars did that for me on my Surly.