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    Mo' Vertigo Cycles



    Project Maul, nearing completion.

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    ^ Oooohh... curvaceous beauty

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    I guess he wasn't lying when he said he wouldn't do another frame with an offset seat tube, hence the bendy action. I didn't have the means to wave a bunch of money at him, so I just ordered the mass produced, slightly heavier version (yelli screamy).

    Saw niner carbon fork, seat tube won't allow for such short stays, sliders with a hanger... This going to be more of a racy type bike than the last one ?

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    short stay, 1x9 or 1x10 bike tuned more to racing and long distance riding than rough and tumble.

    Initially tapered niner fork, will run with suspension and or singlespeed sometimes if required...

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    Nice. If BA gets jealous and needs some love I know some places in pennsylvania where he could get some exercise

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    How Short?

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    short stay, 1x9 or 1x10 bike tuned more to racing and long distance riding than rough and tumble.

    Initially tapered niner fork, will run with suspension and or singlespeed sometimes if required...
    Curious, how short will the CS be with that bent seat tube?

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    426mm

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    Nice.

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    Wow!

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    426mm
    That is awesome!

    Having tried a short stayed 29er, I cannot go back the the vanilla 17.5" CS frames. No matter what the critics say about a frame being "more" than CS length.

    Can't wait to see this built up.

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    Definitely lucky!

    BA - my first Vertigo - has taken me on some pretty rad journeys


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    BA specialises in taking in the meatier parts of Scotland's geography...

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    Those seat stays look flexy

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    ugh I hate you all the more now, cause one wasn't enough now you need another amazing frame? Man.
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    He's got a few more than just two amazing frames

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    that is muontain bike heaven....please tell me that was the only dry day all year...

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    It was the only dry day of the year

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    ha! yeah, given the recent monsoon it feels like it! we've had some pretty good days, just not many!...i did get the opportunity a few months back to ride a route that is usually a massive bog trot for quite a way in the cairngorm...it was outstanding. a pic or two of that route is up on the jones website...scotland is a hard mistress...she can be so incredible, but is often hid under a pretty cold, harsh and dark exterior!.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    ha! yeah, given the recent monsoon it feels like it! we've had some pretty good days, just not many!...i did get the opportunity a few months back to ride a route that is usually a massive bog trot for quite a way in the cairngorm...it was outstanding. a pic or two of that route is up on the jones website...scotland is a hard mistress...she can be so incredible, but is often hid under a pretty cold, harsh and dark exterior!.....
    Nice! If you don't mind me asking what is the head tube angle? I'm having a very similar bike built by Hubcap Cycles in State College PA as we speak. I understand the excitement ...

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    70.25 on this one...giving a trail of ~84mm....i like a fair bit of trail..steer from the hips kinda bike.

    Hubcap! nice! buddy of mine, matt ferrari, has a hubcap - its sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    70.25 on this one...giving a trail of ~84mm....i like a fair bit of trail..steer from the hips kinda bike.

    Hubcap! nice! buddy of mine, matt ferrar,i has a hubcap - its sweet!
    Thanks. I'm going with 70.5 on the HTA. The trail comes out at about 82 mm. Yeah I know Matt F. The bike I'm having built will be similar to Matts with a couple of exceptions, tapered HT and gears.

    Any plans to come riding in State College?

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    i've ridden there a few times...starting with SSWC 05...AMAZING trail system...i *love* the riding there...been back to the area a few times, W101, SM 100 and what not and each time i make sure and get some of Bill's cheese shoppe coffee, and head out to the trails...if i could, id visit a lot more often... :-)~

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    dRjOn- You sir have great taste in bike design and geometry! Congrats, can't wait to see pics of it in action.

    Going with a Loop bar on it as well?
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    cheers! loop, yep....

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    What Suspension fork are you going with on this one? I have Eriksen building me a very similar bike right now....for a tapered Niner Carbon and/or a Fox. Have not made up my mind on a Terralogic or a RLC.

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    i do really like the talas/terralogic and i believe i could run it 99% of the time in the 90mm travel mode, which would work well....i *have* a reba (rlt or something?) that would be easy enough to use as well...the front wheel will use a DT 240 oversize hub that with different end caps can be qr, 9mm, 15mm or 20mm so i can go either route....the terralogic works well for racing...you can have a wee bit of resistance to movement and bob, and yet a plush feeling fork when you need it...hmmm! better think fast.

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    probably going to go homebrewed...we'll see...
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    I'm really happy with the Homebrewed stuff I have purchased!


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    We the people ...

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    I'm really happy with the Homebrewed stuff I have purchased!
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    Half the awesomeness of the new XTR Trail double crank is keeping the outer spider tabs/nuts that double as the crank bolt nut! That way all you have is a T30 bolt to loosen to change chainrings. Gotta bust those out if going SS or single ring for that matter.

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    part number 2



    with a little work with still to do...



    in place on a different bike to check clearances...

    there are a couple of other options here...we'll see how it all turns out...

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    Good to see you keeping a quality builder busy.. ) You have a well developed and healthy case of OCB - obsessive compulsive building!

    I'd second the comment about how good the XTR looks as a SS with the Trail Double caps (1LR-9812 from Madison), got mine ready to go onto the curvy bike, but the outer position's probably a better bet for super-short rears.

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    james: it must be soon now for you? sweet!

    yeah, we're going with a 150 rear end on this one too. lots of good reasons...my understanding is the caps mean the ring sits in the middle position with the bolt head on the inside and the cap on the outer part of the crank spider arms? i need the ring to be in the outer position for chainline and chainstay clearance.

    or in terms of the triple ring crank, the outer is held on by the bolts through the middle ring - but its only a 42 tooth - a little tall for me!

    would be nice though!

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    Meanwhile, the seat stays are being formed...



    Sean at Vertigo cycles innovated the use of an external cup on a 44mm ID headtube.

    This headtube has now been machined down and is ready for a king IS-7 - Sean's most excellent idea will give me the ability to swap between a tapered niner rigid or a tapered steerer suspension fork, depending on the ride. Sweet as.

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    as usual..... INSANELY jealous of yet another of your bikes!

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    parts number 3



    some changes for BA too...

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    stoked isnt the word

    but it will have to do...

    sublime lines...


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    Yeaaah!

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    Looking sweet!!!
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    Very nice.

    You know I'm digging the whole inset tapered Niner/tapered squishy option.

    Sean is just doing it righteously.
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    shapes...


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    Jon THat rear end is friking lovely
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    Mother of chainstays those are the tits!

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    Holy organicnas

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJT View Post
    Jon THat rear end is friking lovely
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    Mother of chainstays those are the tits!
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    what they all said!
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    Splen-dad! If I ever get the itch for Ti....it would for sure be a Vertigo inducing experience


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    The BB looks puny next to those oversized tubes. I wonder what the diameter of the seat stay, chainstay, and seat tube are. Bigger than 1"/25.4mm on the stays and 31.6mm ID/34.9 OD for the seat tube? The stays seem particularly bigger from the top down view, since they don't seem to be ovalized, except at the tire clearance kink.

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    this thread keeps getting better and better. nice rear end.
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    making me dizzy hehehe

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    I'm a sucker for curves like that

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    fockin hot!

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    curves like that take some working out

    no, not another kardashian comment...



    the miter at the drops needs to be *just so*...or else it'll pull the drop outs out of shape...with ti of that size its not simply a case of cold setting the bugger back...

    i wish some of Sean's preternatural calm would rub off on me...

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    What kind of finish are you going to have done on the exterior of the tubing? High polish? Scotchbrite/brushed? Bead blast? Shot peen?

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    not polished and not peened....prolly scothbrite/brushed...i like the raw ti/'industrial' look ... :-)~
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn View Post
    not polished and not peened....prolly scothbrite/brushed...i like the raw ti/'industrial' look ... :-)~
    That is the easiest to maintain, too.
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    cable stops, a seat stay bridge, decals, reaming &facing, then a few bits to come in...

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    parts number 4

    I saw a bike with modified PD M985 pedals recently. The M980's already have a much greater surface area than the old xtr and i have been really enjoying those...so, i decided to get busy with the dremel and a file on a set of the Trail pedals, as they have an even greater surface area...yeah, yeah, i only dropped ~20g (from 185g to 165g) but this is damn close to the weight of the Race versions (that are 155g) and i get the benefits of much more interface...coolio.





    I also finally finished off the e type~direct/ISCG 05 chainguide...



    lets see...next up wheels?

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    Great idea on the pedals.

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    Wow, great idea on the pedals. The added surface area is one reason I went from M970 to M980. M970's are great except the smaller area on the end wears out (sooner) if you pedal strike often on rocks. Eventually, there is play between the pedal and shoe and my foot tilts/rolls outward.

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    exactly!...i was finding my feet sort of rolling around on m970's and the M980's were great...the idea came from a post about a shimano guy's own bike, where he had done pretty much what i have done, but he may have removed even a little more material...i wondered if keeping a tooth at the front might be good...we'll see, his looked slightly less 'heath robinson'



    you end up removing quite a bit of material but the al body is soft and really easy to work with. i reckon i'll be doing another set pretty shortly...

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    Any updates? Didn't see anything on the Flickr stream either.

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    I imagine there will be more soon, he's on his way here as I write this. I haven't been posting to Flickr lately...too busy.
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    portlandia.

    What an awesome day....

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6213334404/" title="build: part 1 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6153/6213334404_46c46b8111_b.jpg" width="1024" height="633" alt="build: part 1"></a>

    Good coffee, chat with good people and mexican food and not rushing.,,,*relishing*, instead!

    :-)~

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6213345466/" title="build 2 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6240/6213345466_1cf4bd3af5_z.jpg" width="396" height="640" alt="build 2"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6213348786/" title="build 3 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6213348786_7cebc3b997_z.jpg" width="480" height="640" alt="build 3"></a>

    it's hard to describe just how sweet this thing is....more shortly...
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    Only one picture out of three is showing up.... Stop teasing!

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    Beautiful. As Dave Turner said- QRs are for road bikes.

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    some more and pic links fixed

    looks like flickr changed how they link pics...

    here's another...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6214659674/" title="build 4 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6019/6214659674_30233729c7_z.jpg" width="396" height="640" alt="build 4"></a>

    more laters...

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    I didn't think there could have been much improvement over your last Vertigo build, but damn, this one has some serious sex appeal.
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    Jealous!

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    Sean,
    How hard was it to sand all that clear off that Niner fork. Also is a matte/flat clear on it now? Love the look

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    Hmmmm, I assumed it was an On-One fork!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetrack View Post
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    How hard was it to sand all that clear off that Niner fork. Also is a matte/flat clear on it now? Love the look
    I have no idea. Coat Paintshop painted it Matte Black. I think they just sanded the edges around the Niner logo to knock down the slight ridge before painting it.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6216545150/" title="IMG_4624 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6237/6216545150_67fdf61114_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="IMG_4624"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6216573806/" title="non drive side by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6216573806_3acd5c4b80_z.jpg" width="640" height="396" alt="non drive side"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6216571114/" title="radness by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6158/6216571114_f9112dc46b_z.jpg" width="640" height="436" alt="radness"></a>

    Bit delayed update due to trying to wipe AV Guard off my lappy....gah!...

    more on this shortly...off to jet lagged sleep...suffice to say i'm blown away. Utterly awesome bike. Aesthetically, and functionally. I really dont think it gets better than this...

    Sean even showed me just how tricky it is to weld this stuff....its only now that i can truly appreciate the insane amount of work that goes into making such a masterpiece...

    unreal...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drj0n/6216032783/" title="IMG_4639 by dRj0n, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6216032783_c4531a8b95_z.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="IMG_4639"></a>

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    Pretty much perfect.. rigid or >100mm I guess? I can't imagine a much better all-rounder. If I went back to suspension and had the £.. )

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    DrJon.. Are those the AM or XC Enve rims

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    Your new ride is sick but the KTM is doing a solid job of trying to upstage you.

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    i know what you mean....those ktm's are beasts!...

    yurp...xc rims ust style...they are pretty snug cf the am ones on my other bike...which arent ust...

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    Absolutely gorgeous! The frame is stellar, and the parts pick ain't too shabby either.

    Did he make that seatpost for you?
    IT'S NOT THE FALL THAT HURTS. IT'S WHEN YOU HIT THE GROUND.

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    eriksen post.... :-)~

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    Really like the looks of pretty much any Vertigo frame. I am not much for curvy frames, but it seems like there is always a good reason for it. While I love my Eriksen, Vertigo was always a close second on my list. It took a while to communicate what I wanted/needed geometry-wise for my bike. From the looks of the geometry of your machine I would dig it.

    Great looking ride.

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