I was living in Vegas up until last week. Trust me, the diSSent handles rocky and loose just fine. It is AL frame, so if you're coming off a steel bike you'll feel the stiffness. If in doubt, get the FE. You'll want a suspension fork I think as well. I went with a reba 115 and was rockin' some pretty sketchy horse destroyed downhill tech spots.
I do want to comment about stability at speed. I don't know if its my particular setup or if the trails were just so loose in Vegas, but my rear felt a little bit sketch when moving fast. (20mph or faster) Anyone else experience this?
I went with the 2010 Reba Team 120 w/ maxle based of your feedback on how it didnt effect the bike, and man let me tell you it has been MONEY!!!!!!! I dont feel sketchy at speeds one bit, in fact I think it made the bike handle better IMO. I know the frame geo wasnt based of off 120 but more to 100. But since I put the fork on it was like the bike just woke up and just flat out ripped!! Now I wish I had a v1 or v3 frame for the chain slap issue. But that is my only nit pick about this bike period! Everytime I ride I feel like a kid again, like back in the day ripping the bmx bike over anything with not a care in the world. I am considering the TransAlp on the diSSent but(close you ears) I may run gears on her. I dont think I have ever had a bike that I was completely happy with from day one until now. Thank You again Peter for this AWESOME bike!!!!!!!
I do want to comment about stability at speed. I don't know if its my particular setup or if the trails were just so loose in Vegas, but my rear felt a little bit sketch when moving fast. (20mph or faster) Anyone else experience this?
I don't think the geo & fork are your problem, IIRC Peter sells WB 110 fluids. I would suggest wheelset and tires maybe the culprits. I ran the Ravens 2.2s and had the wheels drift on fast DHs, Now with CST Critters no drift..Also what PSI are you using? This may be another issue...
I suspect tires/pressure as well as terrain. It felt the same with the same fork at 80mm. The tires are 2.25" nevegals with tubes. I had to run them at 35psi, any lower and I was fixing flats instead of riding.
Also note that I ran the same tire at the same pressure and speed here in tahoe with none of the weird back end feel, so its possible it was a combination of the relatively high pressure and the gravelish trails in vegas. I say a combination because I never had the strange feel on my 26" running a rear tubeless nevegal 2.1" at a lower PSI.
FYI and for the record.
Details and comparisons of the diSSent (Al)'s dropout and sliders have been published...
A real yawn BUT as the number of 'previously-enjoyed' frames make the rounds it might be nice for peoples to know which one it is they got, what it can do, what is can't and other impertinent shite.
My bike - earlier this season.
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MTBR is serious stuff.
You never get better until you get out of your comfort zone.
I found the reason for the rear end feel. My sliders had shifted and rear tire alignment was off. I switched gears and noticed the tire was very close to rubbing on the non-drive side. I fixed the issue and it was solid at speed today.
Ok I currently have an 18" stumpy HT. All the specs fall right between the Medium and large frames. I am 5'11" and weigh 170#. I am wondering which frame size would be a better fitt. i know test riding is best. I just started looking into the diSSent, and was looking for people with similar build and what they ride. I live in San Diego. So If anyone knows of any local that would be great see one in person.
For what it's worth I just ordered up a Large. I'm 6'00, 190#, 32 inseam. Peter was very helpful and set me straight on the large size. I'm a bit bigger but the standover was my guiding light...
Ok I currently have an 18" stumpy HT. All the specs fall right between the Medium and large frames. I am 5'11" and weigh 170#. I am wondering which frame size would be a better fitt. i know test riding is best. I just started looking into the diSSent, and was looking for people with similar build and what they ride. I live in San Diego. So If anyone knows of any local that would be great see one in person.
I ride a small, so I'm no help here. But, Likin Bikin is just down the street from you (ish) in Costa Mesa CA. They might be able to hook you up with a test ride.
I am 6'-2 1/2" and want to pull the trigger on an XL frame. My plan is to truely run it SS but concerned about chainstay clearance should I go 1x9. If you have an XL with the V2 dropouts can you post a pic. How is you chainslap if any?
Can't wait to try this bike out I currently have a 29er Redline but I feel like I am riding 6' above the ground. Every review that I have read on these bikes state they feel better balanced.
I am 6'-2 1/2" and want to pull the trigger on an XL frame. My plan is to truely run it SS but concerned about chainstay clearance should I go 1x9. If you have an XL with the V2 dropouts can you post a pic. How is you chainslap if any?
Can't wait to try this bike out I currently have a 29er Redline but I feel like I am riding 6' above the ground. Every review that I have read on these bikes state they feel better balanced.
Thanks!
if you want a singlespeed, this is what you want.
if you want a 1x9, wait for Mk.iii (on the XL it will probably be spring 2010).
the 1x9 with this application requires a larger ring up front. most people attempt it with a 32 and it will NOT reach all 9 cogs.
i have planned and planned again to document the HOW-TO but...i can't tune a derailleur to save my life...and there is always something better to do.
For what it's worth I just ordered up a Large. I'm 6'00, 190#, 32 inseam. Peter was very helpful and set me straight on the large size. I'm a bit bigger but the standover was my guiding light...
I'm 5'11", 165 with a 32 inch inseam. I've tried med bikes before and my previous 26" was an 18" large, still a bit small. So I went with the diSSent in L. Perfect fit. If it's at all close I'd always go a size up and correct with seatpost, stem, crown race spacer, etc...
Ok I currently have an 18" stumpy HT. All the specs fall right between the Medium and large frames. I am 5'11" and weigh 170#. I am wondering which frame size would be a better fit.
I went with a partial build from misfit--most of bike, wheelset, etc from misfit, but I had to source brakes and a few other small things.
IMO, the misfit hubs, wheelset, seatpost, stem, skewers, etc. feel pretty solid. In general, I think it's safe to say the misfit components (and frame) are solid and pragmatic with a good balance between functionality, weight, toughness, and performance. If you want real flashy, a big name, lots of $$$, super light, etc they're probably not for you. But for my money, I'm impressed with the level of performance, nice but subtle stylings, and lack of BS. ...and they look badd-azz with flaming skulls on them!
I was also looking at their seatpost and stem etc... Due to that fact that i'm going to be building on a budget but the fact that I can get a black and silver pattern going. Which is what i always like to build be it bikes, paintball guns or whatever.
Speaking of the package, I racked my nuts on saturday's ride and I was VERY glad for the reduced standover/bent top tube. It could have been a lot worse.
Actually, I'm not sure but it's gotta have something to do with protecting the aluminum.
The RAW looks killer and most pics I've seen don't capture it's full glory (including mine). I was a little hesitant initially, but it's freaking awesome--it's an unpainted, unpolished, metal frame.
Originally Posted by worrptangl
Ok so I was looking on their site and saw that the RAW frame has a phosphate finish. What is this and what does it do?
RAW is where it is at! It looks AWESOME, and over time areas get rubbed and gives it a continuously different look. I am 5'11 and some change depending on who is measuring and the L frame was spot on for me.
I put in an order for an FE over a week ago and what luck I have. Riding with some 29er heads in San Diego this past weekend resulted in me picking up a nice used DiSSEnt AL, in large. The guy wants to "upgrade" to an FE and I wanted his bike!
I'm amazed at the quality of this frame for the price point. If the bike industry went Peter's direction in building quality frames for fair prices, more people would be on bikes!
That's awesome! I (and I think most misfit riders) felt the same way about it being a damn fine bike for the price.
Originally Posted by 45ronin
I'm amazed at the quality of this frame for the price point. If the bike industry went Peter's direction in building quality frames for fair prices, more people would be on bikes!
I put in an order for an FE over a week ago and what luck I have. Riding with some 29er heads in San Diego this past weekend resulted in me picking up a nice used DiSSEnt AL, in large. The guy wants to "upgrade" to an FE and I wanted his bike!
I'm amazed at the quality of this frame for the price point. If the bike industry went Peter's direction in building quality frames for fair prices, more people would be on bikes!
Awe man I am so going to have to see one of these bikes in person now! 45ronin do you live in SD? I reside in Tierrasanta area.
I put in an order for an FE over a week ago and what luck I have. Riding with some 29er heads in San Diego this past weekend resulted in me picking up a nice used DiSSEnt AL, in large. The guy wants to "upgrade" to an FE and I wanted his bike
in good news. ONE spot has just opened in the (Fe) production for the next/current batch...chainstays already welded up...
I really want one of these bikes. I almost have enough saved up for the frame but am debating just saving up for the complete build which would put me withe nough money right around spring. what do you guys think. also what size would be best for a guy just under 6'2". i was thinking xl.
I was in a similar boat and was saving up for some time. I don't know if I made more work or less work for Peter, but I did sort of a "partial build" and sourced mech brakes and grips and stuff myself--from good ol'JensonUSA--it's hard to beat their prices and service. Misfit parts and wheelset kept it pretty affordable.
Last I heard, inventory was a bit of an issue so that may drive your decision, but it's always worth contacting 'da man direct and seeing what he thinks about sizing and seeing what he's got in stock.
You're on the right track as it's a great bike and was well worth the wait and effort and I'm REALLY glad I didn't settle for something else!
Originally Posted by BigE610
I really want one of these bikes. I almost have enough saved up for the frame but am debating just saving up for the complete build which would put me withe nough money right around spring. what do you guys think. also what size would be best for a guy just under 6'2". i was thinking xl.
...what size would be best for a guy just under 6'2". i was thinking xl.
I'm just shy of 6-3 and ride a 19". My standover is ~35" (boys to the floor). I am glad I didn't go for the 21", It would be too big for me. Here's a pix so you can see how much seatpost is out:
I was in a similar boat and was saving up for some time. I don't know if I made more work or less work for Peter, but I did sort of a "partial build" and sourced mech brakes and grips and stuff myself--from good ol'JensonUSA--it's hard to beat their prices and service. Misfit parts and wheelset kept it pretty affordable.
Last I heard, inventory was a bit of an issue so that may drive your decision, but it's always worth contacting 'da man direct and seeing what he thinks about sizing and seeing what he's got in stock.
You're on the right track as it's a great bike and was well worth the wait and effort and I'm REALLY glad I didn't settle for something else!
How did your wheels get built? How do you like them so far? I'm really curious how the hubs are. Considering them when I'm actually able to start the ordering for my new bike whenever it may be.
My new build. I think I have all the parts together... Just waiting on one important item. Many of the parts are older, like me, but in good working order, like me.
Guys I have my Fe for sale, its mint condition size medium. Weight at 22 pounds. XC one wheels the front wheel needs to be trued only thing "wrong" with the bike. Brand new 2009 Reba SL fork, new FifteenG cranks Ec90 seat post monkey lite handlebars, Juciy ultimate breaks, shadow V wtb sadle, chris king headset, chris king cassette,its also set up tubless. $1500 plus shipping which will be about 75 bucks. Now the reason for the sale: Broke my leg extremely bad I can't take the hard tail at all too much for my leg to handle, and the bike will set collecting dust. caf1905@gmail.com if your interested. Thanks" width="549">
I wish I was a baller, I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her.
That is a nice bike and has most of the stuff I want. If it was a large I'd buy it and re-sell my AL. Sorry about your leg and I bet someone will snap this up.
Guys I have my Fe for sale, its mint condition size medium. Weight at 22 pounds. XC one wheels the front wheel needs to be trued only thing "wrong" with the bike. Brand new 2009 Reba SL fork, new FifteenG cranks Ec90 seat post monkey lite handlebars, Juciy ultimate breaks, shadow V wtb sadle, chris king headset, chris king cassette,its also set up tubless. $1500 plus shipping which will be about 75 bucks. Now the reason for the sale: Broke my leg extremely bad I can't take the hard tail at all too much for my leg to handle, and the bike will set collecting dust. caf1905@gmail.com if your interested. Thanks" width="549">
Sorry, a little late on the uptake what with the weather and work and kid with a fever (let's hope it's not flu!!!! ).
The wheels were from misfit all the way. Well, "all the way" except I opted to go with a familiar and proven, "broken in" tire combo instead of the WTB's that it came with. Exiwolf and Weirwolf I believe, ...if I check in the garage, the beer-fridge will attack me and I may not make it back to finish this post. I'll try the WTB's come spring but for now it's heavy with wet leaf litter around here and I'm more confident on a known rubber configuration (Panaracer 2.35 up front, Kenda Nevegal 2.2 in back)--minimize the unknowns while I learn the bike.
I suppose Peter and/or an "associate" (or supplier) built them (if he even has associates). They're WTB Trail 29 Laserdiscs (or something similar). Drilled for presta, of course. The only thing I was hesitant about initially was the rubber rim strip (as opposed to tape) that I had to put on myself. But it was fairly straightforward and just took a patient hand to make sure it was lined up and straight on the rim. No issues yet. Misfit hubs feel really nice. Smooth with a nice affirmative "hub sound". Disc brake rotors mounted without issue. As a whole, it's not the lightest wheelset, but it feels solid without being "pesado" (heavy), yet it seems light enough (for me). I have no scale, so I'm assuming it's not the lightest wheelset, but I'm sure there's an inverse relationship between $$$ and weight. I suppose if one wanted to hit lots of monster drops, they might be too flimsy or if you were into counting every gram they might be too heavy, but they're just right for me.
I keep coming back to this thought: the bike (and the wheelset) does what it needs to do in a no-BS, stylish but understated, solidly built, and well thought-out fashion. Propaganda or not, the bike and it's component parts have the feel of being conceived, gathered, and executed by someone who rides his own stuff (and who knows what he's doing and what he likes).
Originally Posted by worrptangl
How did your wheels get built? How do you like them so far? I'm really curious how the hubs are. Considering them when I'm actually able to start the ordering for my new bike whenever it may be.
I'll try the WTB's come spring but for now it's heavy with wet leaf litter around here and I'm more confident on a known rubber configuration (Panaracer 2.35 up front, Kenda Nevegal 2.2 in back)--minimize the unknowns while I learn the bike.
Got my FE about a month ago, after a few hundred miles on the wet leaf ground that is Germany this time of year I'm nothing but impressed with the WTB Exiwolf/Weirwolf combo. Sticking like glue, have WTB Velociraptors on my 26" fully, the Exi/Weir seem to be better in the wet.
That's good to know! Maybe I'll throw them on a little sooner....
Originally Posted by jvanhuis
Got my FE about a month ago, after a few hundred miles on the wet leaf ground that is Germany this time of year I'm nothing but impressed with the WTB Exiwolf/Weirwolf combo. Sticking like glue, have WTB Velociraptors on my 26" fully, the Exi/Weir seem to be better in the wet.
Sorry, a little late on the uptake what with the weather and work and kid with a fever (let's hope it's not flu!!!! ).
The wheels were from misfit all the way. Well, "all the way" except I opted to go with a familiar and proven, "broken in" tire combo instead of the WTB's that it came with. Exiwolf and Weirwolf I believe, ...if I check in the garage, the beer-fridge will attack me and I may not make it back to finish this post. I'll try the WTB's come spring but for now it's heavy with wet leaf litter around here and I'm more confident on a known rubber configuration (Panaracer 2.35 up front, Kenda Nevegal 2.2 in back)--minimize the unknowns while I learn the bike.
I suppose Peter and/or an "associate" (or supplier) built them (if he even has associates). They're WTB Trail 29 Laserdiscs (or something similar). Drilled for presta, of course. The only thing I was hesitant about initially was the rubber rim strip (as opposed to tape) that I had to put on myself. But it was fairly straightforward and just took a patient hand to make sure it was lined up and straight on the rim. No issues yet. Misfit hubs feel really nice. Smooth with a nice affirmative "hub sound". Disc brake rotors mounted without issue. As a whole, it's not the lightest wheelset, but it feels solid without being "pesado" (heavy), yet it seems light enough (for me). I have no scale, so I'm assuming it's not the lightest wheelset, but I'm sure there's an inverse relationship between $$$ and weight. I suppose if one wanted to hit lots of monster drops, they might be too flimsy or if you were into counting every gram they might be too heavy, but they're just right for me.
I keep coming back to this thought: the bike (and the wheelset) does what it needs to do in a no-BS, stylish but understated, solidly built, and well thought-out fashion. Propaganda or not, the bike and it's component parts have the feel of being conceived, gathered, and executed by someone who rides his own stuff (and who knows what he's doing and what he likes).
Thank you for the reply! Im thinking of doing a similar thing by ordering a partial build and buying the rest on my own. Of course when I can afford it.
I am getting ready to build my dissent and was wondering if you guys could tell me what the spacing arrangement is on the bottom bracket? It will have raceface cranks with a shimano xt bottom bracket and it will be ran singlespeed.
Thanks
Pretty darn versatile. My buddy Dan put down 135miles in a solo 24 hour race one weekend (2nd in class) and then took 4th in the super-D the next. He was passing full-sus bikes on the tech DH sections of the Fontana (Cal.) SD course. I can’t believe the punishment that bike has seen (first gen frame) and it’s still going strong! Here is a little shot of him ripping the DH section
So I just got my Fe diSSent and I'm downstairs putting it together. Last thing to go are BB and crank. Not going in so easy. Does anyone know what thread type the steel diSSent is? I have a English (BSA) type BB cups. If needed, I can get the BB shell chased, maybe I should have started with doing that. Thanks in advance. Yes I called and emailed Peter, no info on the website either
So I just got my Fe diSSent and I'm downstairs putting it together. Last thing to go are BB and crank. Not going in so easy. Does anyone know what thread type the steel diSSent is? I have a English (BSA) type BB cups. If needed, I can get the BB shell chased, maybe I should have started with doing that. Thanks in advance. Yes I called and emailed Peter, no info on the website either
Stylo SS crankset
WTB hubs, Super Comp spokes laced to Stan's Arch rims
Avid BB7 discs and levers
Maxxis Ardent 2.25 tires
Ritchey 10 degree flat bars
Thomson seatpost and stem
Cane Creek headset
bolt on skewers
Ashima rotors
Total weight: 22 pounds
The ride is totally different than the aluminum version. Smooth riding and stiff when you need it, like on the climbs and heavy crankin'. I'm liking it alot.
Rode it Sunday and it is smooth. Soaks up the bumps but it's stiff where and when you need it. I like the ride alot more than the aluminum version. SWEET
I'm looking to purchase the Al but I'm torn on the color black or raw. I see that you polished yours and it looks great. If I go the raw way I was thinking of satin finish. How do you think it would look?
I've got a raw that I have not polished (and probably won't as I dig the raw look). Check Likin'Bikin (and this thread) for a pretty good pic of the frame "color". And Misfit's got 1000's of pics of frames and such linked to the website. I've never seen the black frame in person, I'm sure it would look rad too, but the raw is sweet. As someone else said, it's kinda always changing in a subtle-like fashion. I don't think a photo can do it justice, especially no photo I took. It's kinda like Chuck Norris in that it's so badd-azz that it's hard to capture the awesomeness through a lens.
Originally Posted by mcim29
I'm looking to purchase the Al but I'm torn on the color black or raw. I see that you polished yours and it looks great. If I go the raw way I was thinking of satin finish. How do you think it would look?
I have seen the black in person and it looks awesome as well. This is why I'm torn they both are great colors. I just tried to locate the photos on the site but nothing came up. Would you happen to have the direct link?
I have seen the black in person and it looks awesome as well. This is why I'm torn they both are great colors. I just tried to locate the photos on the site but nothing came up. Would you happen to have the direct link?
Mikey I see your drooling here also, raw doesn't show the scratches like mine but then again I like my bikes jonny cash stye!
Matty, I'm definitely drooling over the Al frame ever since I test rode yours. I'm saving my pennies as we speak. I really like both the black and raw but need to make a decision.
I'm probably looking to purchase it sometime late spring. I need to check with Peter on inventory and which size works for me. All my other bikes are mediums but when I rode your large it felt very comfortable to me. I'm 5-8 closer to 5-9.
So medium would fit me best?
Can this color be applied to the Al?
in my experience a medium would fit you best...ultimately the effective top tube is the primary indicator of fit...so unless you are drastically out of proportion, the large would have you stretched.
the (Al) frames are (currently) wet painted. In theory they COULD have a matte (frosted) clear applied.
in the practical world i could not state emphatically that it would LOOK the same. i think the black powder starts BRIGHTER then the black wet. this could impact the final product.
also, the price. if we had to handle the frame, send it out and retrieve it you would pay in the area of 200$...the (Fe)'s get clear at the same time as paint so there is little handling, that said (Fe)'s looking for this frosted finish will pay more starting with the batch in production to cover the costs of changing hoses and non-std clear.
you could always request 'decals on the side' and arrange the clear locally...
Thread derail for a moment since your here will my wifes pink frame work a full range 9 cog set being a small with a slightly raised drop that it has? With the '10 race season coming I don't want to buy another bike for her so running 1x9 may work as there really isn't much in the womens group SS wise. The (fe) is a bike that can be run with gears right?
Well, I am almost there... however, I tried to set up a 32 X 18 tooth combo and could not get the chain to fit, even within the range that the dropouts give. So I am probably going to have to go up to a 19 or 20 tooth cog. What have you guys found to work the best... I know it depends on your local trails, but I want a combo that is a good all around combo, but not too easy? I had a 32 X 21 on my Salsa Mamasita (which is the magic gear combo for the Mamasita), but found it was a little too easy on some trails. BTW, I am using the KMC Kool Chain, if that matters. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
One more question... what brand cog do you guys recommend?
Will be switching to a Reba 120mm thru-axle or Fox F29 15mm QR as soon as I can find a good deal on one... I have the Reba 120mm with Maxle on my Canzo and the Fox Talas 15mmQR on my 575 and I am totally SOLD on the thru-axle!
Medium Dissent that was stripped and sanded and left raw with custom decals from Peter (thanks btw)
Rockshox Reba SL 100mm
Spinergy 29 wheelset
IRD Fire29er XCPro 2.1 Tires
Avid Elixir CR Brakes
Hope Saw Rotors 183mm front / 160mm rear
Origin8 headset
Thomson 90 X 10 stem
Ragley Carnegie Bars
Oury Lock on Grips
RaceFace Dues XC Cranks
Hope SS Bottom Bracket
Custom made 32 tooth Red Chainring with FSA Clear Bashguard
RaceFace Next Carbon Seatpost
Hope Seatpost Clamp
Fizik Gobi Saddle
Can"t wait to give her a spin...
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That is one very sweet set up! As far as the chain issue. You may need to pick up a half link. I'm going to be doing the same thing for my 33/18 set up. With the 33 it works but I am all the back with the sliders and no room to adjust.
That is one very sweet set up! As far as the chain issue. You may need to pick up a half link. I'm going to be doing the same thing for my 33/18 set up. With the 33 it works but I am all the back with the sliders and no room to adjust.
Already tried that... but half links do not work with the Kool Chain due to its unique shaped links. Really don't want to, but might have to switch chains. However, when I was at the shop yesterday, trying to get help, they stretched a traditional chain on it and said it probably would not work either.
About the chain, you may need to run a half link for 32/18. That is what I ended up doing.
The ratio of course depends entirely on your fitness level and the terrain. I was running 32/18 in vegas which was perfect for most of the trails I was riding.
Now that I'm in tahoe and climbing up some semi-tech sections and some steeper sections on a regular basis I've gone to 32/21. Its a bit too easy for some of the in town rolling stuff but necessary for me at least on the tougher trails.
About the chain, you may need to run a half link for 32/18. That is what I ended up doing.
The ratio of course depends entirely on your fitness level and the terrain. I was running 32/18 in vegas which was perfect for most of the trails I was riding.
Now that I'm in tahoe and climbing up some semi-tech sections and some steeper sections on a regular basis I've gone to 32/21. Its a bit too easy for some of the in town rolling stuff but necessary for me at least on the tougher trails.
Plus no half link needed!
I am in North Georgia and will be using this bike for the easier trails here. As I said above, I had the 32/21 combo on my Mamasita, but found it a little too easy on my trails. I have my Yeti 575 and Voodoo Canzo for the more difficult and steeper trails. Does anyone know if a half link can be used with the KMC KOOL chain? My shop seemed to think it would not work? ?
I am in North Georgia and will be using this bike for the easier trails here. As I said above, I had the 32/21 combo on my Mamasita, but found it a little too easy on my trails. I have my Yeti 575 and Voodoo Canzo for the more difficult and steeper trails. Does anyone know if a half link can be used with the KMC KOOL chain? My shop seemed to think it would not work? ?
I'm using the Superlite version of the Kool chain. They feel it won't work or they know? I 've yet try it and was going to pick up a 1/8 half link from a shop that handles quite a bit of BMX parts.
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On a related note, how do you "Raw" owners find living with that finish on a long-term basis? Is it a pain to clean? Does it even get clean after some good mud/dirt baths?
I used to have a "ball-burnished" GT Avalanche that was raw. Fast forward about 7 years and I hit it with some metal polish for the first time. One of my riding buddies said, "did you get a new frame? I thought the old one was white."
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I'll try the WTB's come spring but for now it's heavy with wet leaf litter around here and I'm more confident on a known rubber configuration (Panaracer 2.35 up front, Kenda Nevegal 2.2 in back)--minimize the unknowns while I learn the bike.
