Looking for a Soma Juice Frame - help!!

[ddublu]

Hook a brother up...anyone know where I can find a 20" green Soma Juice frame? I found one at a great price online but it's an XXL. I would consider it but can't find the specs ANYWHERE for the Juice. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

[seat_boy]

Do a Google image search, you can find it on flickr:

soma_geochart_juice2012_dual | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

It's possible I may have a lightly used 22" frame for sale. I want to do some comparisons with my new Karate Monkey to say for sure.

This site also seems to have the 18" and 22" for sale.

[ddublu]

Do a Google image search, you can find it on flickr:

soma_geochart_juice2012_dual | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

It's possible I may have a lightly used 22" frame for sale. I want to do some comparisons with my new Karate Monkey to say for sure.

This site also seems to have the 18" and 22" for sale.

Awesome...thanks a ton. I have already talked to the folks at that site you posted and they are putting together a shipping quote for me. I tested (for fit only) a Trek Wahoo yesterday in the 21" size...seems like the 22" Soma is very similar to that especially with the drop down frame. I want to sit in my bike not on it or over the handle bars. Any insight?

[phsycle]

Not sure where you're located, but here is one. Though not green. There is always a powdercoat option.

(No affiliation with seller. Just found it via search).

Soma Juice 29er Hardtail MTB Mountain Bike Frame 29" wheel hard tail

[seat_boy]

Sorry, no great insights from me. Compared to a typical Trek frame, the Soma has a taller head tube, which may or may not raise your front end--depends on how you cut the fork. At the least, you won't be able to get the bars as low, but on the other hand, you'll run fewer spacers to get them higher (my preference). Soma manages the standover with the bent top tube, which I've found works dandy.

Something I really like about the Juice is that it's one of the few XL frames to still run a normal size top tube (28.6 diameter) Most steel frames are one or two steps oversized here, which I find makes the frame too stiff. The skinny tube emphasizes the "steely" nature of the ride, for me at least.

Awesome...thanks a ton. I have already talked to the folks at that site you posted and they are putting together a shipping quote for me. I tested (for fit only) a Trek Wahoo yesterday in the 21" size...seems like the 22" Soma is very similar to that especially with the drop down frame. I want to sit in my bike not on it or over the handle bars. Any insight?

[ddublu]

Sorry, no great insights from me. Compared to a typical Trek frame, the Soma has a taller head tube, which may or may not raise your front end--depends on how you cut the fork. At the least, you won't be able to get the bars as low, but on the other hand, you'll run fewer spacers to get them higher (my preference). Soma manages the standover with the bent top tube, which I've found works dandy.

Something I really like about the Juice is that it's one of the few XL frames to still run a normal size top tube (28.6 diameter) Most steel frames are one or two steps oversized here, which I find makes the frame too stiff. The skinny tube emphasizes the "steely" nature of the ride, for me at least.

How tall are you and what is your inseam? Can't decide now if I should go to the XXL because of the lower top tube.

Not sure if you saw this in another thread but check out the comparison.

[LBIkid]

Two things here:

1. The Juice will definitely give you the "in-the-bike" feeling. That's how I like my bikes as well, and I loved the Juice for that quality, among others.

2. You shouldn't base the size of the frame on the height of the top tube. You should focus on the length of the top tube. In your chart above, the important number is the "Top Tube level" measurement. Your Felt is 605mm. If you move up to the 22" Juice, you'd be looking at a 646mm top tube, which is 41mm or about and inch and a half longer. That's a good bit longer in bike measurements. Be careful though, because head tube and seat tube angles factor into the "reach" of a bike, which is ultimately the measure of how well a bike fits. Yes, the top tube lengths on the Wahoo and the 22" Juice are very close, but the head tube angle on the Wahoo is more than 1 degree shallower, meaning that the reach would be less (assuming the seat tube angles are the same) on the Wahoo.

I can't really say which one would fit better, but hopefully the above info helps out a little. Good luck. The Juice is an awesome frame.

Side note - make sure you get the 2012 model with the sliders. The older models had horizontal drops and removing the rear wheel means loosening the rear brake caliper = pain in the a$$.

[seat_boy]

I'm 6'3", with a 34" pants inseam/36" cycling inseam (pubic bone height). Me seat height (bottom bracket center to top of saddle along seat tube) is 32".

Here's a picture of my Juice with a Fargo V2 fork:



It can be my full suspension bike as well!

How tall are you and what is your inseam? Can't decide now if I should go to the XXL because of the lower top tube.

Not sure if you saw this in another thread but check out the comparison.

[ddublu]

I'm 6'3", with a 34" pants inseam/36" cycling inseam (pubic bone height). Me seat height (bottom bracket center to top of saddle along seat tube) is 32".

What size is your bike?

[seat_boy]

22"

what size is your bike?

[ddublu]

22"

I literally just hopped off a Soma Juice 18" and it's too small but the reach felt almost there. At 6'2" I think a 20" is right where I need to be. Will have to sell my new SID XX fork to get a straight one but other than that I should be good to go. Thanks for the help.

[ddublu]

Can someone confirm this is the 2012 model? This is my mechanic's Soma that I may end up buying from him. It's a 20" and I moved the seat back for fitting and love it. I ordered one from Modern Bike just to be safe as well. They are taking my frame back and moving all parts to the Soma at no charge.

[seat_boy]

I think they have only made the sliding dropout models for '11 and '12 so far, so it's probably one of those. Older models have track ends (no moving parts)

[tcochi]

Just a head's up, if you're interested the Juice is all new for 2013.

[tcochi]

Here's the link for more info:

S O M A f e e d: 2013 Frame News: Soma Juice

[ddublu]

Yep. Saw that. I like the less conventional look of the 2012 model and LOVE the green.

[meltingfeather]

I would consider it but can't find the specs ANYWHERE for the Juice. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

I don't know... that's a hard one... maybe try the Soma website?
/sarcasm

[ddublu]

I don't know... that's a hard one... maybe try the Soma website?
/sarcasm

Tried that first - see for yourself....no dice. Juice | SOMA Fabrications They are prepping the site for the new model Juice. I found it from another post on these boards.

[meltingfeather]

yep. Saw that. I like the less conventional look of the 2012 model and love the green.

yes!!

[ddublu]

yes!!

The 2012 is less conventional because it's the last year they did the dropped top tube. A search would have revealed that this is changing in 2013 with the Nickel colored Juice.....in the more conventional design.

[meltingfeather]

Tried that first - see for yourself....no dice. Juice | SOMA Fabrications They are prepping the site for the new model Juice. I found it from another post on these boards.

yep... google so hard to operate

[ddublu]

yep... google so hard to operate

Day late and a dollar short....this was already answered yesterday. What's the beef?

[ddublu]

yes!!

Nice edit there....

[meltingfeather]

Nice edit there....

i thought so

[ddublu]

that's why I said, "yes!"

the dropped tube and cooler color of the 2012 is less conventional... which is why i agreed, and why a bit of comprehension would have revealed that "yes!" means, "I concur."

Yes!! is not what you said intitially....this is what you said initially and then edited your comment so you weren't wrong.

"how is it less conventional now that the top tube is straight like almost every other HT?

to me it looks WAY MORE conventional... not that I mind. I had two midnight silver soma's until i sold my juice to my best friend to upgrade to fancy metal."