• 04-13-2010
    CommuterBoy
    Let's see your Performance Access XCL 9r Build!
    I got sick of searching for pictures when I was building mine... so lets put them in one place, shall we? ... inspirational pics for those who are building one up. Plus, I want to see yours so I can steal your ideas.

    Here's mine, it's the 21" frame:

  • 04-13-2010
    mtnbiker72
    Not the best shot (cell phone camera) but here is the current build, 19" Frame

  • 04-13-2010
    sean salach
    21" frame. No longer built up. I found 120mm on that fork to be too much for the frame. the front end was floppy and wandered. 80 or 100 would be much better.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/72475478@N00/3884511339/" title="access1 by anrothardonn, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2587/3884511339_4572184d93.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="access1" /></a>
  • 04-13-2010
    mtnbiker72
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sean salach
    21" frame. No longer built up. I found 120mm on that fork to be too much for the frame. the front end was floppy and wandered. 80 or 100 would be much better.

    I found 100 was too much as well...I went to 80 and it rides just right (note, I have a 39mm offset fork)
  • 04-13-2010
    toddre
    To you guys on a 21" frame....how tall are you? I'm about 6'4" with longish arms. ETT-wise my preference is right between the 21 and the 23. Can't decide whether to go long or stay on the shorter side.
  • 04-13-2010
    CommuterBoy
    I'm a little over 6'2",longish arms, riding the 21" frame. I actually ordered the 23" frame originally, and I sent it back because it seemed so rediculously huge. You gain way more height than you do length jumping from the 21 to the 23. I would definitely advise you to stay on the shorter side. I'm running mine with a super short stem, and I love the feel. I would think that I would be totally comfortable on mine if I was 6'4" with just a stem swap. Not worth the jump to the 23 because you pay for it in standover height and head tube length. Just my 2 cents...
  • 04-13-2010
    sean salach
    I'm 6'4" with long arms as well, and prefer smaller frames. The 21" felt a tiny bit big for me.
  • 04-13-2010
    seat_boy
    6'3", 36" PBH, here was my 21":



    Drop bar mode:



    I sold it with some regret; I'm thinking about picking up another. I'm waiting until they're on sale :)
  • 04-13-2010
    CommuterBoy
    ^^ What kind of tensioner were you using, and what size were your two front rings? I want to do 2x1 like that on my commuter..
  • 04-13-2010
    rzims
    here's mine - 19" frame (edited)- not a very compelling shot in the garage, but I'v eonly ridden it once so far on it's maiden voyage.
  • 04-13-2010
    seat_boy
    It's a Dimension tensioner, basically the same as the Performance Forte brand item. I run a 32/26 up front, and a 16/20 in the back. The keeps the chain the same length between the mountain gear (46") and the road gear (65").

    Since the chain has to move laterally to change gears, I took the bolt that holds the tension wheel in place and welded a washer to it, effectively creating a wing nut. This allows me to change gears, tool free. Here's a picture:


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CommuterBoy
    ^^ What kind of tensioner were you using, and what size were your two front rings? I want to do 2x1 like that on my commuter..

  • 04-14-2010
    CommuterBoy
    Cool, thanks. I like that set-up. Didn't see the two gears out back. I want to keep a road double up front (50/36) and do a single cog out back. The only problem I'm having is that most tensioners can't make up for that huge of a difference in front chainrings. There are some two-pully options (pauls makes one) but they are pricy.
  • 04-14-2010
    OilcanRacer
    i changed a few things recently when i retired one of my bikes and put the parts on my access.






    i am running a dingle like seat_boy. except that i run the torsion gear in the middle of the two rear gears and it can handle it no problem. i got about 1,000 miles of tough trail riding this way. front 32/36 rear 25/21. i can even cross chain it no problem.

    i am switching over to a EBB and losing the tensioner soon.





    a real added bonus of this frame is being to run 2.4 tires front and back. mega tire clearance.
  • 04-14-2010
    TBMD9er
    2 Attachment(s)
    The big one, 23"
    I actually just sold mine. I built it up as I was going through a warrenty issue on another frame. Kind of sad to see it go, but couldn't justify 3 29er's
  • 04-14-2010
    toddre
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TBMD9er
    I actually just sold mine. I built it up as I was going through a warrenty issue on another frame. Kind of sad to see it go, but couldn't justify 3 29er's


    Wow that is big, how tall are you?
  • 04-14-2010
    TBMD9er
    Not so big
    I'm about 6'3" with around 36" inseam. I was thinking about going with the 21" frame, but this one fit me pretty well. Standover was a little tight, but the cockpit fit me fine.
  • 04-14-2010
    baker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rzims
    here's mine - 18" frame - not a very compelling shot in the garage, but I'v eonly ridden it once so far on it's maiden voyage.

    Isn't it just available in 17,19,21, and 23? I ordered a 17" frame and received a 23" frame. Holy smokes, that thing is huge!

    I tried a 17" fully built bike in the store and it fit well, when the seatpost was at (or just beyond) full extension. I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam.

    I'm jonesing to receive my frame. I have everything ready to build it into a 25.5 lb 1x9 29er.
  • 04-14-2010
    fireflock
    Here's my 23" frame. 6'7", 'cause I know someone is going to ask. Having a budget 23" 29er frame is awesome for us tall guys.

  • 04-14-2010
    M_S
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    i changed a few things recently when i retired one of my bikes and put the parts on my access.

    i am running a dingle like seat_boy. except that i run the torsion gear in the middle of the two rear gears and it can handle it no problem. i got about 1,000 miles of tough trail riding this way. front 32/36 rear 25/21. i can even cross chain it no problem.

    i am switching over to a EBB and losing the tensioner soon.





    a real added bonus of this frame is being to run 2.4 tires front and back. mega tire clearance.

    Never thought I'd see a 150 dollar frame with Edge wheels. I dig it, you've got your priorities straight. :thumbsup:
  • 07-31-2010
    bigdog547
    Square Taper Size?
    Please help me...

    I am in the process of building up an Access 9'er in 23".
    I need to find a square taper bottom bracket for my build.

    Does any one know what model square taper bottom bracket will fit?
    I had a Shimano in my previous Gary Fisher.

    All help is appreciated.


    Thanks,

    Brian
  • 07-31-2010
    Natedogz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toddre
    To you guys on a 21" frame....how tall are you? I'm about 6'4" with longish arms. ETT-wise my preference is right between the 21 and the 23. Can't decide whether to go long or stay on the shorter side.

    6'2" on the 21" frame....the stock 120mm stem is going to be swapped for something a lil shorter soon. EDIT: Swapped stem for a 90mm and it felt pretty good on a road ride last night.
  • 08-17-2010
    beagledadi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    i changed a few things recently when i retired one of my bikes and put the parts on my access.






    i am running a dingle like seat_boy. except that i run the torsion gear in the middle of the two rear gears and it can handle it no problem. i got about 1,000 miles of tough trail riding this way. front 32/36 rear 25/21. i can even cross chain it no problem.

    i am switching over to a EBB and losing the tensioner soon.





    a real added bonus of this frame is being to run 2.4 tires front and back. mega tire clearance.


    Nice wheels!! :thumbsup:

    Matt
  • 08-17-2010
    txxcrider

    By txxcrider at 2010-08-17


    This was my build, but now I have it built up on a a VooDoo Soukri
  • 08-17-2010
    go-pirates
    I love my Access 9er, but I'm looking for tires with a bit more volume to soften up the ride. Currently running 2.1 Schwalbe Alberts, which are light and fast. I want more cush, but not something that is way heavy (a little heft is okay). Riding mostly hardpack. Any suggestions?
  • 08-17-2010
    DFYFZX
    2.25 or 2.40 Racing Ralphs...
  • 08-17-2010
    go-pirates
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DFYFZX
    2.25 or 2.40 Racing Ralphs...

    Sounds good. No issues with fit for the 2.4's, then?
  • 08-17-2010
    DFYFZX
    I don't ride Access 9er but I've heard they'll handle it;) Look at post 19...
  • 08-18-2010
    Rucker61
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by go-pirates
    Sounds good. No issues with fit for the 2.4's, then?

    I'm running WTB 2.55 Weirwolfs with no clearance issues.
  • 08-18-2010
    CommuterBoy
    Well I liked my Access so much I built another one for the commute... running 2.35 Big Apples, fenders are in the mail. It will clear them no problem. Here are the twins.



  • 08-19-2010
    gmtx77
    I picked up my new Access XCL 9.7 a couple of weeks ago. Only ridden it on short hops so far mainly due to the heat. Its friggin hot here. Going fishing all next week but plan on putting it through its paces when I return. So far though I love this bike. Very impressed so far. Handles well. Fits well. I'll post a complete review along with pics sometime in Sept.
  • 10-07-2010
    bondiablo
    I started with my new 2010 Access XCL 9.5 Slate/19 then went a little nuts on the "upgrades" but got everything relatively cheap and resold the parts I replaced so really didn't end up spending that much more. Anyway, I'm happy with it. Here's what I added. The last picture is my old Trek 800 in front of the Access 29er.

    RockShox Tora TK Fork
    Cane Creek ZS-3 Headset
    Shimano SLX FC-M660 175mm Crankset
    Avid BB7 Brakes
    MKS Lambda Pedals
    ODI Rogue Grips
    Lizard Skins Chainstay Guard
    Forté Men's Softail Saddle
    Forté Quick Release Seatpost Collar











  • 10-07-2010
    gregnash
    Can't wait to get mine in the next month or so. Sucks that the price just went up to $129?! Hopefully that just means they have a new model coming out.
  • 10-16-2010
    James12345
    4 Attachment(s)
    Just finished!
    Here is my Performance Access 9r 1x9 budget build that I just finished up last night! Some parts came from Jenson, CRC, and CL.

    Took me approximately 1 year to build up. Scrapping for the best deals or what I thought was the best deal took some time. Wohoooooo, now I just need to go ride the dang thing.

    All parts were new except for the fork, wheelset, seat, and grips.

    Frame: Performance Access 9r 17 inch: $75
    Fork: 2007 Rockshox Reba 29er: $120
    Wheelset: Mavic TN719 w/ XT hubs: $140.00
    Crankset: Shimano SLX: $128.00
    Cassette: Shimano XT M770: $53.00
    Shifters: Shimano SLX M660: $70.00
    Rear Deraileur: Shimano XT M772: $71.00
    Chain: Shimano XT HG93: $24.00
    Headset: Canecreek ZS-3: $44.25
    Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo Team: $19.33
    Stem: Truvativ Stylo Team: $32.67
    Seatpost: Truvativ Stylo Team: $37.33
    Seat Collar: Thomson: $29.00
    Brakes: Avid BB7 160mm F&R: $104.00
    Tires: Continental Mtn King F&R: $68.00
    Tubes: $6.00
    Cables: Kore: $40.00
    Seat: Had one laying around

    So this build came out to about $1060.
  • 10-16-2010
    gregnash
    Dude I really hope that the access frame gets down that low again!!!!
  • 10-16-2010
    jeffj
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by James12345
    Here is my Performance Access 9r 1x9 budget build that I just finished up last night! Some parts came from Jenson, CRC, and CL.

    Took me approximately 1 year to build up. Scrapping for the best deals or what I thought was the best deal took some time. Wohoooooo, now I just need to go ride the dang thing.

    All parts were new except for the fork, wheelset, seat, and grips.

    Frame: Performance Access 9r 17 inch: $75
    Fork: 2007 Rockshox Reba 29er: $120
    Wheelset: Mavic TN719 w/ XT hubs: $140.00
    Crankset: Shimano SLX: $128.00
    Cassette: Shimano XT M770: $53.00
    Shifters: Shimano SLX M660: $70.00
    Rear Deraileur: Shimano XT M772: $71.00
    Chain: Shimano XT HG93: $24.00
    Headset: Canecreek ZS-3: $44.25
    Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo Team: $19.33
    Stem: Truvativ Stylo Team: $32.67
    Seatpost: Truvativ Stylo Team: $37.33
    Seat Collar: Thomson: $29.00
    Brakes: Avid BB7 160mm F&R: $104.00
    Tires: Continental Mtn King F&R: $68.00
    Tubes: $6.00
    Cables: Kore: $40.00
    Seat: Had one laying around

    So this build came out to about $1060.

    :thumbsup: Well done. Impressive build for the money spent.
  • 10-16-2010
    James12345
    Thanks!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffj
    :thumbsup: Well done. Impressive build for the money spent.

    Thanks! It wasn't easy. There were times where I just wanted to say screw it and go buy a fully built bike. But I always came to the realization that I wanted to ride something that i built from the ground up.

    Off topic if anybody was curious or looking for a new chainstay wrap for their rig, Home Depot has this 3M Self Sticking Splice Tape for like $2.50. It works great. Only sticks to itself and thus will not leave a nasty residue on your frame afterwards. Only brought it up because this was the first time I had used it and it came out fantastic.
  • 10-17-2010
    gmtx77
    I was wondering about that tape. Which department did you find it in? They tend to spread their tape displays around according to application in our local store.

    Nice build James. Pretty rewarding building it yourself huh? Now....get us a ride report.
  • 10-17-2010
    allencb
    1 Attachment(s)
    Build Spec:
    Performance Access XCR 9r frame (19" size)
    Voodoo rigid 29er fork
    Weyless 90mm 7deg stem (parts bin)
    Control Tech Scandium riser bars (parts bin)
    Avid Juicy 7 brakes with 203mm and 180mm rotors
    XT/Blunt wheelset (purchased "lightly used" with the Karma tires)
    Karma Kenda 2.2 tires
    Selle San Marko Ponza saddle
    Easton seatpost (parts bin)
    Shimano 105SC derailleur from the parts bin (18 years old! soon 2b replaced with Ultegra 6600 derailleur)
    Shimano LX Rapidfire shifter
    Sram 970 11-32 9spd cassette
    Sram chain
    Middleburn 180mm crankset with 34t ring, BBG guard, and SPD clone pedals (stolen from my SS)
    Shimano UN-54 BB

    I have less invested in this bike than a Niner frame, what I originally planned to buy, would cost alone. Total weight is 26.4lbs and could go lighter with a better fork and wheelset. Apologies for the cruddy pic, it was a crop from a much larger image.

    Chris
  • 10-17-2010
    James12345
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gmtx77
    I was wondering about that tape. Which department did you find it in? They tend to spread their tape displays around according to application in our local store.

    Nice build James. Pretty rewarding building it yourself huh? Now....get us a ride report.


    It was actually in the electrical section of Home Depot where you would find the electrical tape. Some call it self-sticking, but others may call it self-fusing. It is 3M Temflex 2155 Self-fusing Splicing Tape.

    It took a few hours for the adhesive to cure. After this point, it is very difficult to pull or unravel the tape job. Will have to carefully cut it off with a razor and carefully pull it apart when you need to replace it. But this stuff so far rawks, it conforms to minor changes in angles making wrapping your chainstay a cinch!

    Just wanted to give credit where it is due. I did not find this solution independently, but got ideas from postings on bikeforums.net

    Hope this helps!
  • 10-17-2010
    gregnash
    Nice builds guys... I am waiting for the 19" to come back into stock.
    If I can ask a favor, please post the specs of your bike when you post the pic. Also, I am curious as to everyone's feelings on their forks. I have seen a lot of Reba's and Tora's on these and wondering how people feel about them? Looking at picking up the RST M-29 fork as a base but if I can find a good deal on a Reba, Tora, or Fox from fleabay then I will pick that up. The 19" has been out of stock since the middle of Sept (was going to grab one for my bday but they were out) and now is completely gone from the site. I am wondering if they will be coming out with a redesigned frame or something around the end of the year?
  • 10-17-2010
    mtnbiker72
    Here is the latest on my XCL 9r, I'm giving some Alt bars a try due to continuing hand issues...I'll provide feedback on those as I get some time with them. I had to install new hydro line, it's orange because that was what was on clearance (well pink too).

  • 10-18-2010
    davidcondor
    9r coming in the mail tomorrow !!!
    a real added bonus of this frame is being to run 2.4 tires front and back. mega tire clearance.[/QUOTE]

    Dude, you just rocked my world right now. I have a 9r frame coming and I wasn't sure if it would fit the Ardent 2.4 that I am currently running front and back. Thank you for relieving my anxiety that I would have to settle for less!!

    To all you all weird-o's: I'm gonna have some pictures of an interestingly equipped 23" 9r in the not-too-distant future, so stay tuned!

    I love the *dingle* discussion - not something I have experimented with but find fascinating.
  • 10-18-2010
    davidcondor
    Damn, that's a good lookin' bike
    [QUOTE=bondiablo]I started with my new 2010 Access XCL 9.5 Slate

    Nice bike, and great location for the photos! I wish I could have gotten that slate color, but I got mine on sale so I won't complain. Your bike is way too clean! Now go get it dirty . . .
  • 10-18-2010
    davidcondor
    Dude, no apologies necessary. I like this photo the best out of all of them because is shows the bike in its true element. Beautiful, natural, peaceful, mossy woods.

    Chris[/QUOTE]
  • 10-18-2010
    davidcondor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    Here is the latest on my XCL 9r, I'm giving some Alt bars a try due to continuing hand issues...I'll provide feedback on those as I get some time with them. I had to install new hydro line, it's orange because that was what was on clearance (well pink too).


    My man, as you may have found out: Alternative bars are what it's all about. I've been riding Titec Jones bars (45^ bend) for a couple years now, but I just got a set of Carnegie's carbon bars on my Fargo and I love them to bits. You're running the Mary's, is that right? I would recommend the Ragley Carnegie's if you want something a little wider and a little less bendy (25^).

    By the way; does anyone want to buy some On-One handlebars? I have some fleegle's and some midge's that are sitting around. The fleegles are great - really wide and nice 16^ bend. But now I have the carnegie's, so . . .

    Anyone with a Fargo or other 29er they want to set up with an off-road drop bar might be interested in the Midge's. Just wondering . . .
  • 10-18-2010
    mtnbiker72
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by davidcondor
    You're running the Mary's, is that right? I would recommend the Ragley Carnegie's if you want something a little wider and a little less bendy (25^).

    Close, Origin 8 Space Bar OR2 31.8 clamp
  • 10-20-2010
    Drevil
    Minez, taken with cruddy iPhone:

  • 10-20-2010
    davidcondor
    How's the Larry ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drevil
    Minez, taken with cruddy iPhone:


    You are an inspiration to us all! I have been intrigued with the fat front for a while now, especially upon seeing how Jeff Jones has taken to it with his bikes. I am eager to learn what your impressions are . . . How does it compare to a rigid 29" front - or a suspended one for that matter? It seems to me that it's theoretically a happy medium between the two; a way to keep the rigid feel while increasing comfort and traction. Would you recommend it to the average trail rider, or does it make sense only in certain conditions?

    Thanks for sharing your unique 9r!
  • 10-20-2010
    MMcG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drevil
    Minez, taken with cruddy iPhone:



    Nicely done Drevil! :thumbsup:
  • 10-21-2010
    J_DiMiceli
    My Access 9.7. I guess she's technically bought and not built.