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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    I have a 2010 Jabberwocky and I just changed my front tire to an Ardent 2.4. It's sweet. I want to change the rear to an Ardent as well, but the 2.4 is too fat on my Mavic TN-719 rims.

    Will an Ardent 2.25 fit on this rim in the rear with decent clearance? Anyone have any pics? I don't like the axle all the way back if I can avoid it.
    I have a 2.2 on the back with plenty of room. Ardent 2.25 should fit with no problem.

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    I have had a 2.35 rampage back there with a little room. A ardent 2.25 should be fine. I hear
    That it is not as well loved as the 2.4 for various reasons I am too lazy to look up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    I have a 2.2 on the back with plenty of room. Ardent 2.25 should fit with no problem.
    I have Flow rims, run the axle in the middle, and have had Ardent 2.25, Intense 29-2.25, WTB WWLT 2.55 (more like a 2.3) and Exiwolf 2.3 in back all without issue.
    The WWLT doesn't leave much for mud clearance, but I did break an alloy spoke nip while bikepacking part of the Colorado Trail and even with a small little bit of out of trueness, the tire didn't rub. I just measured my friend's Ardent 2.4 on Flows vs my WWLT on Flows, and they are pretty much the same width, so should theoretically clear just fine.
    My Jabber is a 2009 model if that makes any difference.

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    Orange Jabber

    Here is a shot of mine.
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    Here is the most recent version of mine.

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    Here's my Jabberwocky:

    I'm thinking of selling it so PM me if you're interested. I'd be down to part it out if interested.
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    Anyone running a Panaracer Cedric Gracia 29 X 2.25 in the rear?

    Curious about clearance...

    Thanks

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    Is Vassago doing a Black Friday sale ? I want a Jabber Frame and fork.

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    Not a single one with a black frame and white fork...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    Anyone running a Panaracer Cedric Gracia 29 X 2.25 in the rear?

    Curious about clearance...

    Thanks
    I know this isn't the tire you asked about,but it is a 2.25" tire,hope it gives you some idea I run CST Caballero 2.25's on my Jabber (which was bought a few months back,pretty sure it's a '10) with plenty of clearance. Here's some pics (that I walked all the way out to the shed to shoot,just for you just now )...





    In case no one else is running the tire you asked for,hope this helps a bit

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    I want a Jabber Frame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhaultrucker View Post
    I know this isn't the tire you asked about,but ... Here's some pics (that I walked all the way out to the shed to shoot,just for you just now ).
    very much appreciating

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    you'll be fine. I normally ran Kenda Nevgal 2.4's with room. It was snug, and any wheel shift in the drops would cause rubbing, but get it set centered and they cleared. No room for mud though. but i dont have mud in AZ.
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    The further back in the vertical drops you run the frame the more tire clearance you have, I've been running Panaracer Rampage 2.35s with room to spare

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    Anyone have experience with Stans Flows and Schwalbe RR eve 2.4?

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    I have used that combo until my Racing Ralph exploded in my living room. What do you need to know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    very much appreciating
    No probs,glad I had one I could shoot pis and show
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    I have used that combo until my Racing Ralph exploded in my living room. What do you need to know?
    How did your tires explode??

    I put the wheels one last night and they look like a good fit. I had the move them back of the chainstay to be sure there was enough room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CupOfJava View Post
    How did your tires explode??

    I put the wheels one last night and they look like a good fit. I had the move them back of the chainstay to be sure there was enough room.
    The bead snapped while my bike was leaning against the wall in my apartment. I contacted Schwalbe and the dude nonchalantly said "oh yeah, that happens sometimes." Kinda freaks me out.
    Ill probably run these on my race wheels next season because they are light and fast with a lot of grip. But I dont trust them for every day use.

    You have one mounted on a Flow In the rear? How far back in the track ends is the axle?
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    it's about 3/4 the way back. The tire clearance looks fine. I've got about 1 thumb space between each side which is plenty. I've heard stories of the Schwalbe snapping off the bead, but it's so tight on my rims right now I can't imagine it happening. But who knows? I put some extra air in it when I was mounting it hoping it would stretch the tire and solidify the beads. I hope it doesn't happen while I'm going down a rock garden.

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    very nice. what kind of cog is that?

    getting my kings laced up with some flows for my jabber by mikesee. can't wait.

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    19T Boone Ti cog very hard to find

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    "...very hard to find"

    But very well worth it,looks cool as hell Whole bike looks sic,Brother,nice job building
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    Thanks trucker, just moved from redline to vassago looks like a bunch of us have looks like pnut ditched us though.

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    LOL,me too! The Jabberwocky is basically the replacement for my old much loved '02 Monocog,and the Bandersnatch replaced directly the d440 Small world,eh?
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    A couple of days ago I scored the last army green Jabber at Hucknroll.com for $290 though I had to settle for a black Odis fork (not included in the $290 price - I wish!). Maybe replacing my Monocog and GT Peace 9r.

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    IDK about the P9,but it will ride better than the M'cog (granted,my much loved Monocog was an '02 and 26"er,but the Jabber smokes it hard). Mad props on the new frame\fork! Woulda looked cool with a white fork and trim too (wishing my RS Recon was white,LOL!).

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    So smooth it would steal your girlfriend







    2.5 in the front!!!

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    I have to agree with trucker. As much as I loved my Monocog flight the Jabber smokes it. The jabber is about a pound lighter with the same parts and feels quicker all around. I'm still riding the monocog as my trainer. I like the colors on your bike trucker. Nice job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtotheZ View Post
    So smooth it would steal your girlfriend
    She's (GF) a bit of a flake anyways,but there isn't a bike made that'd steal my wife JOKING,no GF,just the wife,and that is an awesome looking Jabber,my friend!



    Quote Originally Posted by CupOfJava View Post
    I have to agree with trucker. As much as I loved my Monocog flight the Jabber smokes it. The jabber is about a pound lighter with the same parts and feels quicker all around. I'm still riding the monocog as my trainer. I like the colors on your bike trucker. Nice job!
    I wish I'd kept mine...as much as I am pro 29"er,I miss riding the Monocog. It was much...simpler,like a nostalgic ride into the past. The Jabber smokes it in every way though (except maybe weight...but I had some weight weenie parts on the 'cog,it was rigid and v-brake'd)...and as much as I dig that green (I really do),ya just can't beat an all blac bike,LOL! Would I go back to an '02 Cog over a '10 Jabber? HECK no!
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    I think the green is the best color they've put out for the jabber...i'm stupidly biased of course.

    1. green
    2. white
    3. orange
    4. yellow
    5. black

    mojave can creep up once i start seeing some builds.

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    I am not a big fan of the mojave. Even thought I have an 07 green, I still like black more.


    I am another one of the guys who went from a Monocog to Jabber. I got it in 08, and it's the longest I have owned any frame. I have come full circle since I am riding it rigid again. It climbs like a monkey on crack.

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    I was a big fan of the army green. Surly has come out with the new Orgre in army green and it will be my next geared bike. Black is still classic, though.

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    looking for a green ODIS with 7.75"+ steerer if anyone is looking to unload one.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
    I think the green is the best color they've put out for the jabber...i'm stupidly biased of course.

    1. green
    2. white
    3. orange
    4. yellow
    5. black

    mojave can creep up once i start seeing some builds.

    For me it's...
    1. Green
    2. Black
    3. White
    4. Yellow
    5. Orange

    JUST because orange got last,doesn't mean it's not loved,they look sweet,but one of em had to be last
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    Though I never posted anything here prior to this, I browsed around and this thread was actually helpful when I was in the process of building one. It took me a month to collect all the parts, and this weekend I finally had all the pieces to put everything together. My theme was Kermit the Frog that's why you see green/black/white/red pieces, though I wanted white wheelset but I couldnt' pass up on a deal so I got the black ones instead. The white stickers made it stand out more, I guess. (I just replaced the gold grips to black ones). I call it the "Kermit the Bike".

    Btw, I posted it in SS thread.


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    That's purdy
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    thanks!

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    Dear Toing Toing: Love the bike. I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. Can you advise me on your parts list? Is that an Odis fork? What Crankset? What headset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    Dear Toing Toing: Love the bike. I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. Can you advise me on your parts list? Is that an Odis fork? What Crankset? What headset?

    Thanks! You can get the frame/fork combo from hucknroll dot com (I think).
    Here are the parts as follows:

    frame: Jabber
    fork: Odis
    headset: Cane Creek S3
    stem: Salsa 100mm promoto
    handlebar: Salsa 710mm 5d promoto
    grips: Lizard skin
    brakeset: Juicy 7s 180/160 rotors
    seatpost: Exotic carbon (I may change this to a longer Thomson later)
    saddle: WTB Shadow
    crankset/BB: Shimano LX FC-M582, Shimano
    pedals: Shimano M520s
    chainring: 32t Salsa
    rear cog: 22t Niner
    chain: Sram 8spd
    wheelset: AC SS with Specy captain 29x2.0 tubeless

    22+/- lbs complete

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    Quote Originally Posted by elab View Post
    Is that fox set at 100mm? If so, How does it ride?
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    I wonder if I should try and contact Vassago again about my cracked Jabber that has been sitting in my shop now since May. I have since built up a salsa El Mar and have been enjoying that ride very much. It would be great if Vassago would allow me to do a trade up which in that case I would build another Jabber up cause I really liked the ride! My other option is to have a local builder repair this one but way back in June Vassago mentioned trade up but didn't have any inventory for replacement customers.
    what to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone No Balone View Post
    I wonder if I should try and contact Vassago again about my cracked Jabber that has been sitting in my shop now since May. I have since built up a salsa El Mar and have been enjoying that ride very much. It would be great if Vassago would allow me to do a trade up which in that case I would build another Jabber up cause I really liked the ride! My other option is to have a local builder repair this one but way back in June Vassago mentioned trade up but didn't have any inventory for replacement customers.
    what to do?
    can't hurt to keep asking right?

    nice bikes elab and toing.

    new wheels from MikeC should be here Monday. very excited. hoping it will snap up the ride a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Is that fox set at 100mm? If so, How does it ride?
    Yup, 100mm.

    Before this I rode a 26er w/80mm fork.

    The front end looks really high up but it hasn't bothered me on the trail. No handling issues but would probably feel faster set at 80mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct View Post
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    nice bikes elab and toing.
    ...
    Thanks!

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    Here's mine, in various builds. Older to new pics.

    The day she was built up, before ever even hitting the trails.


    Cruising at the pump track.


    All set up for an overnight bikepacking ride.


    After a stupidly muddy race. Still rigid, 1x9.


    Night time winter TT, poor attempt at a Buddy the Elf costume. Manitou Tower Pro 80mm fork.


    Log ride! 100mm Terralogic fork.


    Steamy summer ride. Back to the Manitou fork.


    Current state, back to rigid. I have a geared hardtail now, so the Jabber will likely stay rigid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. ?
    As toingtoing said, you should be able to get one from hucknroll. Also, this new large army green frame is curretnly in ebay (not mine) Vassago Jabberwocky 20", army green NEW | eBay you need a large
    If everything goes as planned my medium may be up for sale soon
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