• 09-23-2011
    S:Drive
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    I have a 2010 Jabberwocky and I just changed my front tire to an Ardent 2.4. It's sweet. I want to change the rear to an Ardent as well, but the 2.4 is too fat on my Mavic TN-719 rims.

    Will an Ardent 2.25 fit on this rim in the rear with decent clearance? Anyone have any pics? I don't like the axle all the way back if I can avoid it.

    I have a 2.2 on the back with plenty of room. Ardent 2.25 should fit with no problem.
  • 09-23-2011
    Sheepo5669
    I have had a 2.35 rampage back there with a little room. A ardent 2.25 should be fine. I hear
    That it is not as well loved as the 2.4 for various reasons I am too lazy to look up.
  • 09-23-2011
    campredcloudbikes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    I have a 2.2 on the back with plenty of room. Ardent 2.25 should fit with no problem.

    I have Flow rims, run the axle in the middle, and have had Ardent 2.25, Intense 29-2.25, WTB WWLT 2.55 (more like a 2.3) and Exiwolf 2.3 in back all without issue.
    The WWLT doesn't leave much for mud clearance, but I did break an alloy spoke nip while bikepacking part of the Colorado Trail and even with a small little bit of out of trueness, the tire didn't rub. I just measured my friend's Ardent 2.4 on Flows vs my WWLT on Flows, and they are pretty much the same width, so should theoretically clear just fine.
    My Jabber is a 2009 model if that makes any difference.
  • 09-24-2011
    S:Drive
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    Orange Jabber
    Here is a shot of mine.
  • 09-28-2011
    Captain_America1976
    Here is the most recent version of mine.
  • 09-29-2011
    max5480
    Here's my Jabberwocky:

    I'm thinking of selling it so PM me if you're interested. I'd be down to part it out if interested.
  • 10-31-2011
    Moe's Tavern
    Anyone running a Panaracer Cedric Gracia 29 X 2.25 in the rear?

    Curious about clearance...

    Thanks
  • 10-31-2011
    robtre
    Is Vassago doing a Black Friday sale ? I want a Jabber Frame and fork.
  • 10-31-2011
    CupOfJava
    Not a single one with a black frame and white fork...
  • 10-31-2011
    longhaultrucker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    Anyone running a Panaracer Cedric Gracia 29 X 2.25 in the rear?

    Curious about clearance...

    Thanks

    I know this isn't the tire you asked about,but it is a 2.25" tire,hope it gives you some idea :) I run CST Caballero 2.25's on my Jabber (which was bought a few months back,pretty sure it's a '10) with plenty of clearance. Here's some pics (that I walked all the way out to the shed to shoot,just for you just now :D :p)...





    In case no one else is running the tire you asked for,hope this helps a bit :thumbsup:

    CoJ: That would be an AWESOME color combo! :thumbsup:
  • 10-31-2011
    robtre
    I want a Jabber Frame!
  • 10-31-2011
    Moe's Tavern
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by longhaultrucker View Post
    I know this isn't the tire you asked about,but ... Here's some pics (that I walked all the way out to the shed to shoot,just for you just now :D :p).

    very much appreciating :thumbsup:
  • 10-31-2011
    mattKHS
    you'll be fine. I normally ran Kenda Nevgal 2.4's with room. It was snug, and any wheel shift in the drops would cause rubbing, but get it set centered and they cleared. No room for mud though. but i dont have mud in AZ.
  • 10-31-2011
    AtotheZ
    The further back in the vertical drops you run the frame the more tire clearance you have, I've been running Panaracer Rampage 2.35s with room to spare
  • 10-31-2011
    CupOfJava
    Anyone have experience with Stans Flows and Schwalbe RR eve 2.4?
  • 10-31-2011
    Sheepo5669
    I have used that combo until my Racing Ralph exploded in my living room. What do you need to know?
  • 10-31-2011
    longhaultrucker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moe's Tavern View Post
    very much appreciating :thumbsup:

    No probs,glad I had one I could shoot pis and show :)
  • 11-02-2011
    CupOfJava
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    I have used that combo until my Racing Ralph exploded in my living room. What do you need to know?

    How did your tires explode??

    I put the wheels one last night and they look like a good fit. I had the move them back of the chainstay to be sure there was enough room.
  • 11-02-2011
    Sheepo5669
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CupOfJava View Post
    How did your tires explode??

    I put the wheels one last night and they look like a good fit. I had the move them back of the chainstay to be sure there was enough room.

    The bead snapped while my bike was leaning against the wall in my apartment. I contacted Schwalbe and the dude nonchalantly said "oh yeah, that happens sometimes." Kinda freaks me out.
    Ill probably run these on my race wheels next season because they are light and fast with a lot of grip. But I dont trust them for every day use.

    You have one mounted on a Flow In the rear? How far back in the track ends is the axle?
  • 11-02-2011
    CupOfJava
    it's about 3/4 the way back. The tire clearance looks fine. I've got about 1 thumb space between each side which is plenty. I've heard stories of the Schwalbe snapping off the bead, but it's so tight on my rims right now I can't imagine it happening. But who knows? I put some extra air in it when I was mounting it hoping it would stretch the tire and solidify the beads. I hope it doesn't happen while I'm going down a rock garden.
  • 11-08-2011
    CupOfJava








    23lbs
  • 11-08-2011
    jct
    very nice. what kind of cog is that?

    getting my kings laced up with some flows for my jabber by mikesee. can't wait.
  • 11-08-2011
    CupOfJava
    19T Boone Ti cog very hard to find
  • 11-08-2011
    longhaultrucker
    "...very hard to find"

    But very well worth it,looks cool as hell :thumbsup: Whole bike looks sic,Brother,nice job building :D
  • 11-08-2011
    CupOfJava
    Thanks trucker, just moved from redline to vassago looks like a bunch of us have looks like pnut ditched us though.
  • 11-08-2011
    longhaultrucker
    LOL,me too! The Jabberwocky is basically the replacement for my old much loved '02 Monocog,and the Bandersnatch replaced directly the d440 :thumbsup: Small world,eh? :D
  • 11-08-2011
    Way
    A couple of days ago I scored the last army green Jabber at Hucknroll.com for $290 though I had to settle for a black Odis fork (not included in the $290 price - I wish!). Maybe replacing my Monocog and GT Peace 9r.
  • 11-09-2011
    longhaultrucker
    IDK about the P9,but it will ride better than the M'cog (granted,my much loved Monocog was an '02 and 26"er,but the Jabber smokes it hard). Mad props on the new frame\fork! :thumbsup: Woulda looked cool with a white fork and trim too (wishing my RS Recon was white,LOL!).

  • 11-09-2011
    AtotheZ
    So smooth it would steal your girlfriend







    2.5 in the front!!!
  • 11-09-2011
    CupOfJava
    I have to agree with trucker. As much as I loved my Monocog flight the Jabber smokes it. The jabber is about a pound lighter with the same parts and feels quicker all around. I'm still riding the monocog as my trainer. I like the colors on your bike trucker. Nice job!
  • 11-09-2011
    longhaultrucker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AtotheZ View Post
    So smooth it would steal your girlfriend

    She's (GF) a bit of a flake anyways,but there isn't a bike made that'd steal my wife :eekster::lol: JOKING,no GF,just the wife,and that is an awesome looking Jabber,my friend! :thumbsup:



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CupOfJava View Post
    I have to agree with trucker. As much as I loved my Monocog flight the Jabber smokes it. The jabber is about a pound lighter with the same parts and feels quicker all around. I'm still riding the monocog as my trainer. I like the colors on your bike trucker. Nice job!

    I wish I'd kept mine...as much as I am pro 29"er,I miss riding the Monocog. It was much...simpler,like a nostalgic ride into the past. The Jabber smokes it in every way though (except maybe weight...but I had some weight weenie parts on the 'cog,it was rigid and v-brake'd)...and as much as I dig that green (I really do),ya just can't beat an all blac bike,LOL! Would I go back to an '02 Cog over a '10 Jabber? HECK no! :D
  • 11-09-2011
    jct
    I think the green is the best color they've put out for the jabber...i'm stupidly biased of course.

    1. green
    2. white
    3. orange
    4. yellow
    5. black

    mojave can creep up once i start seeing some builds.
  • 11-09-2011
    Captain_America1976
    I am not a big fan of the mojave. Even thought I have an 07 green, I still like black more.


    I am another one of the guys who went from a Monocog to Jabber. I got it in 08, and it's the longest I have owned any frame. I have come full circle since I am riding it rigid again. It climbs like a monkey on crack.
  • 11-09-2011
    Way
    I was a big fan of the army green. Surly has come out with the new Orgre in army green and it will be my next geared bike. Black is still classic, though.
  • 11-09-2011
    jct
    looking for a green ODIS with 7.75"+ steerer if anyone is looking to unload one.

    thanks.
  • 11-09-2011
    longhaultrucker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jct View Post
    I think the green is the best color they've put out for the jabber...i'm stupidly biased of course.

    1. green
    2. white
    3. orange
    4. yellow
    5. black

    mojave can creep up once i start seeing some builds.


    For me it's...
    1. Green
    2. Black
    3. White
    4. Yellow
    5. Orange

    JUST because orange got last,doesn't mean it's not loved,they look sweet,but one of em had to be last :D
  • 11-16-2011
    toingtoing
    Though I never posted anything here prior to this, I browsed around and this thread was actually helpful when I was in the process of building one. It took me a month to collect all the parts, and this weekend I finally had all the pieces to put everything together. My theme was Kermit the Frog that's why you see green/black/white/red pieces, though I wanted white wheelset but I couldnt' pass up on a deal so I got the black ones instead. The white stickers made it stand out more, I guess. (I just replaced the gold grips to black ones). I call it the "Kermit the Bike".

    Btw, I posted it in SS thread.

  • 11-16-2011
    longhaultrucker
    That's purdy :thumbsup:
  • 11-16-2011
    toingtoing
    thanks!
  • 11-16-2011
    robtre
    Dear Toing Toing: Love the bike. I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. Can you advise me on your parts list? Is that an Odis fork? What Crankset? What headset?
  • 11-16-2011
    toingtoing
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    Dear Toing Toing: Love the bike. I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. Can you advise me on your parts list? Is that an Odis fork? What Crankset? What headset?


    Thanks! You can get the frame/fork combo from hucknroll dot com (I think).
    Here are the parts as follows:

    frame: Jabber
    fork: Odis
    headset: Cane Creek S3
    stem: Salsa 100mm promoto
    handlebar: Salsa 710mm 5d promoto
    grips: Lizard skin
    brakeset: Juicy 7s 180/160 rotors
    seatpost: Exotic carbon (I may change this to a longer Thomson later)
    saddle: WTB Shadow
    crankset/BB: Shimano LX FC-M582, Shimano
    pedals: Shimano M520s
    chainring: 32t Salsa
    rear cog: 22t Niner
    chain: Sram 8spd
    wheelset: AC SS with Specy captain 29x2.0 tubeless

    22+/- lbs complete
  • 11-16-2011
    elab
  • 11-17-2011
    Sheepo5669
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elab View Post

    Is that fox set at 100mm? If so, How does it ride?
  • 11-17-2011
    Tone No Balone
    I wonder if I should try and contact Vassago again about my cracked Jabber that has been sitting in my shop now since May. I have since built up a salsa El Mar and have been enjoying that ride very much. It would be great if Vassago would allow me to do a trade up which in that case I would build another Jabber up cause I really liked the ride! My other option is to have a local builder repair this one but way back in June Vassago mentioned trade up but didn't have any inventory for replacement customers. :madman:
    what to do?
  • 11-17-2011
    jct
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone No Balone View Post
    I wonder if I should try and contact Vassago again about my cracked Jabber that has been sitting in my shop now since May. I have since built up a salsa El Mar and have been enjoying that ride very much. It would be great if Vassago would allow me to do a trade up which in that case I would build another Jabber up cause I really liked the ride! My other option is to have a local builder repair this one but way back in June Vassago mentioned trade up but didn't have any inventory for replacement customers. :madman:
    what to do?

    can't hurt to keep asking right?

    nice bikes elab and toing.

    new wheels from MikeC should be here Monday. very excited. hoping it will snap up the ride a little bit.
  • 11-17-2011
    elab
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sheepo5669 View Post
    Is that fox set at 100mm? If so, How does it ride?

    Yup, 100mm.

    Before this I rode a 26er w/80mm fork.

    The front end looks really high up but it hasn't bothered me on the trail. No handling issues but would probably feel faster set at 80mm.
  • 11-17-2011
    elab
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jct View Post
    ...
    nice bikes elab and toing.
    ...

    Thanks!
  • 11-17-2011
    dgaddis1
    Here's mine, in various builds. Older to new pics.

    The day she was built up, before ever even hitting the trails.


    Cruising at the pump track.


    All set up for an overnight bikepacking ride.


    After a stupidly muddy race. Still rigid, 1x9.


    Night time winter TT, poor attempt at a Buddy the Elf costume. Manitou Tower Pro 80mm fork.


    Log ride! 100mm Terralogic fork.


    Steamy summer ride. Back to the Manitou fork.


    Current state, back to rigid. I have a geared hardtail now, so the Jabber will likely stay rigid.
  • 11-17-2011
    noosa2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    I have been trying to get a Vassago frame for a while now today I found out they are moving their offices and warehouses and will be unavailable for a couple weeks. ?

    As toingtoing said, you should be able to get one from hucknroll. Also, this new large army green frame is curretnly in ebay (not mine) Vassago Jabberwocky 20", army green NEW | eBay you need a large
    If everything goes as planned my medium may be up for sale soon :D
  • 11-20-2011
    jct
  • 11-20-2011
    Captain_America1976
    Quote:
    I think the big difference here is that Huck and Roll is running it. That is what they do everyday, so hopefully it will go better than last year.
  • 11-20-2011
    toingtoing
    elab - i like the black/gold combo :thumbsup:
  • 11-21-2011
    Sheepo5669
    Was the fisticuff available last year for the b.f.s.?(more appropriately known as th b.s. Sale.)
    I needz onez
  • 11-21-2011
    classrc
    Ardent 2.4" on rear?
    Anyone know if the Ardent 2.4" will fit between the jabber's stays? Will be tubeless on Flow's...

    Thanks!
  • 11-21-2011
    noosa2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classrc View Post
    Anyone know if the Ardent 2.4" will fit between the jabber's stays? Will be tubeless on Flow's...

    Thanks!

    I'm running a 2.35" FR3 (very close to the same size as the 2.4" Ardent) on the rear of my Jabber with a wheel about 3/4 of the way back in the dropouts and it only just fits. With a straight rim and dry desert conditions my current setup is fine but I don't think it would work in any kind of muddy conditions.
  • 11-21-2011
    CupOfJava
    I'm running 2.4 RR and I've got a thumbs width of clearance on each side with the wheels 3/4 the way back which is plenty. I just got my frame less than a month ago so I'm not sure if the newer frames have more clearance or not. I checked out someone else's jabber last years model and it looks identical to mine. Maybe the older model have bad clearance?
  • 11-21-2011
    classrc
    I've currently got an Exiwolf 2.3 out back with decent clearance. I'm running Flow rims, tubeless... I could add a link to slide further rearward, if needed... Just trying to get max width for winter in Michigan ;-)
  • 11-21-2011
    Stopbreakindown
    Nice looking rigs being posted recently.
    :thumbsup:
  • 11-21-2011
    BeginnerCycling
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgaddis1 View Post
    Here's mine, in various builds. Older to new pics.

    Great looking bike!
  • 11-23-2011
    TheGenTwo
    Has anyone ordered from this year's Black Friday sale yet?

    I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on one, just afraid of having to wait a month or even months for the frame like some people did last year.
  • 11-23-2011
    bandersen7
    They will be ordered through huck n roll.. I doubt there will be issues.
    I received my frame last black Friday sale 3 days after ordering
  • 11-23-2011
    machinetwelve
    my black and Blue
    This thread was great in helping me decide on what to buy. This bike is sweet as hell. Sold 2 geared suspension bikes to build it and Now I don't have anymore geared bikes (road or mtn)

    Playing with several tire combos for winter/snow riding. Have a ardernt 2.4 that I'm gonna try and squeeze on the front and a WTB dissent 2.5 for the front.

    I'll post pics soon when i have my newb status removed (10) posts
  • 11-23-2011
    machinetwelve
    new build
    Looks much better on the trail then in my office.







    18" Jabberworky with Odis rigid fork
    Crank Brothers Cobalt 3 Stem, Bars, Seatpost, Headset Grips, Skewers
    Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals
    WTB Rocket V Race Saddle (recently changed out to WTB Volt Race)
    Avid bb7 w/speed dial-TI levers
    Truvativ Stylo Crank (32t chainring)
    JBC Rear Cog (19t)
    Velocity Blunt Rims with XT Hubs and DT swiss spokes
    WTB Wolverine Race 2.2 tires

    Approx 22 lbs
  • 11-23-2011
    Lunge Bob Sweatpants
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by machinetwelve View Post
    Looks much better on the trail then in my office.

    18" Jabberworky with Odis rigid fork
    Crank Brothers Cobalt 3 Stem, Bars, Seatpost, Headset Grips, Skewers
    Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals
    WTB Rocket V Race Saddle (recently changed out to WTB Volt Race)
    Avid bb7 w/speed dial-TI levers
    Truvativ Stylo Crank (32t chainring)
    JBC Rear Cog (19t)
    Velocity Blunt Rims with XT Hubs and DT swiss spokes
    WTB Wolverine Race 2.2 tires

    Approx 22 lbs

    Where did you find the blue Cobalt 3 stem? I waited and waited and waited for it to come out, only found the red. I pestered Crank Bros customer support multiple times. 9 months went by and I went Thomson.

    I have a black Bandersnatch with blue Velocity vxc rims, blue Cobalt 3 seat post, the same CB bars and a WTB Pure V seat.

    I like my black and blue.

    Nice looking bike....
  • 11-23-2011
    dgaddis1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by machinetwelve View Post

    18" Jabberworky with Odis rigid fork
    Crank Brothers Cobalt 3 Stem, Bars, Seatpost, Headset Grips, Skewers
    Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals
    WTB Rocket V Race Saddle (recently changed out to WTB Volt Race)
    Avid bb7 w/speed dial-TI levers
    Truvativ Stylo Crank (32t chainring)
    JBC Rear Cog (19t)
    Velocity Blunt Rims with XT Hubs and DT swiss spokes
    WTB Wolverine Race 2.2 tires

    Approx 22 lbs

    That weight doesn't seem right. I have the same size frame with mostly lighter parts (rigid carbon fork, carbon bars, arch/american classic wheels, thomson seatpost/stem, same saddle) and mine is 23lbs.
  • 11-23-2011
    TheGenTwo
    Should I order through Economy(free) or stay safe with USPS(and pay $36.10) ?


    If I pay economy I may have to wait for 2 weeks, something I'm not sure if I can tolerate
  • 11-23-2011
    machinetwelve
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dgaddis1 View Post
    That weight doesn't seem right. I have the same size frame with mostly lighter parts (rigid carbon fork, carbon bars, arch/american classic wheels, thomson seatpost/stem, same saddle) and mine is 23lbs.

    I didn't have the best method for weighing so l could be off by a bit hence the "approx"
  • 11-23-2011
    machinetwelve
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stumpypete View Post
    Where did you find the blue Cobalt 3 stem? I waited and waited and waited for it to come out, only found the red. I pestered Crank Bros customer support multiple times. 9 months went by and I went Thomson.

    Think I got the stem from bikebling.com
  • 11-23-2011
    jct
    economy from HnR should be fine. they should have it out w/in a couple business days...
  • 11-24-2011
    S:Drive
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noosa2 View Post
    As toingtoing said, you should be able to get one from . Also, this new large army green frame is curretnly in ebay (not mine) Vassago Jabberwocky 20", army green NEW | eBay you need a large
    If everything goes as planned my medium may be up for sale soon :D


    FYI, eBay bikes are not covered under warranty per Vassago's website. Just a heads up.
  • 11-24-2011
    jrrider
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheGenTwo View Post
    Should I order through Economy(free) or stay safe with USPS(and pay $36.10) ?


    If I pay economy I may have to wait for 2 weeks, something I'm not sure if I can tolerate

    Just ordered an 18" Jabberwocky right after i saw they went on sale.:D

    Picked the eco(free shipping) but on the order history it showed up as being shipped via UPS.
  • 11-24-2011
    jct
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by S:Drive View Post
    FYI, eBay bikes are not covered under warranty per Vassago's website. Just a heads up.

    that particular seller is a Vassago dealer in san diego. if you were to purchase from them, there may be some provisions made to accomodate a warrantied frame. i almost bought a frame from them but then ended up going through HnR.
  • 11-24-2011
    TheGenTwo
    Alright, I just bit the bullet for a Jabberwocky frame and fork. Hopefully it will come in a week or so. I have got almost all the parts ready except for the crank.

    Can't wait. By the way, I picked up the 14th 16" black Jabberwocky left in stock.
  • 11-24-2011
    jct
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheGenTwo View Post
    Alright, I just bit the bullet for a Jabberwocky frame and fork. Hopefully it will come in a week or so. I have got almost all the parts ready except for the crank.

    Can't wait. By the way, I picked up the 14th 16" black Jabberwocky left in stock.

    are you gonna run rigid or sus? congrats!

    post up some pics when you get er built.
  • 11-24-2011
    TheGenTwo
    Haha, gonna be running rigid of course :) Yup, now I just wish my frame would be here soon! Wait is killing me .


    Hopefully I don't get issues like the wrong paint/dented frame or see a Bandersnatch in the box instead of my Jabberwocky :(
  • 11-25-2011
    Possum Jones
    I've been mulling over building up an SS for a while. I just now ordered a jabber from HnR. It's going to be a while before I build it up but I'll have it hanging on the wall in the meantime. I'm in the process of shopping a carbon 29 ht race rig for next season. That'll be bought before I build up the jabber. I'm excited :)
  • 11-27-2011
    Mtnbkr29r
    I went an ordered a jabber 22" frame and fork on the black friday sale, anyone have pictures of the Mojave frame? Im not sure how I feel about it, but wanted something different than black.
  • 11-28-2011
    CupOfJava
    Got mine last month. Almost 30 day to the day I bought it I saw the black friday deal. Called up huck n roll and they price matched the difference. The jabber is a great frame.
  • 11-29-2011
    momills
    Hey I'm hoping someone out there can help me. I am doing my first Jaberwocky build and am trying to fit Avid Elixir 5 brakes with 160 rotors using 160 post to IS adaptors but it's not working. Looks like I should be using 180 adaptors? Any suggestions
  • 11-29-2011
    TBMD9er
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mtnbkr29r View Post
    I went an ordered a jabber 22" frame and fork on the black friday sale, anyone have pictures of the Mojave frame? Im not sure how I feel about it, but wanted something different than black.

    Hey Mtnbkr29r, how big are you? I was looking at the Bandersnatch but it only comes as big as 20". I'm 6' 2.5 with a 34" inseam, according to the Vassago fit size the 20" should fit from 6' 2" to 6' 4". All my other 29er frame have been XL's. I could not find the Geo's for the 22" frame on either the HucknRoll of vassago websites for comparison.
    thanks
  • 11-29-2011
    Mtnbkr29r
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TBMD9er View Post
    Hey Mtnbkr29r, how big are you? I was looking at the Bandersnatch but it only comes as big as 20". I'm 6' 2.5 with a 34" inseam, according to the Vassago fit size the 20" should fit from 6' 2" to 6' 4". All my other 29er frame have been XL's. I could not find the Geo's for the 22" frame on either the of vassago websites for comparison.
    thanks

    I'm 6' 9" with a 36" inseam, I couldnt find any geo specs either but I called huck n roll and they measured the frame and said it runs true to size 22" seat tube. I was concerned that the 22" didn't really exist, it's hard to believe Vassago doesn't have geo specs on their site.

    I've always ridden xl-xxl's.
  • 11-29-2011
    jct
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TBMD9er View Post
    Hey Mtnbkr29r, how big are you? I was looking at the Bandersnatch but it only comes as big as 20". I'm 6' 2.5 with a 34" inseam, according to the Vassago fit size the 20" should fit from 6' 2" to 6' 4". All my other 29er frame have been XL's. I could not find the Geo's for the 22" frame on either the HucknRoll of vassago websites for comparison.
    thanks

    FWIW, i'm 6'3" with a 34" inseam and the 20" jabber fits me well. i'm running a 100mm stem with 10* rise and riser bar.

    my seat is run all the way to the back. i could probably run a setback post just to have a little more room and flexibility but i've had no problems so far.
  • 11-29-2011
    HalFliP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TBMD9er View Post
    Hey Mtnbkr29r, how big are you? I was looking at the Bandersnatch but it only comes as big as 20". I'm 6' 2.5 with a 34" inseam, according to the Vassago fit size the 20" should fit from 6' 2" to 6' 4". All my other 29er frame have been XL's. I could not find the Geo's for the 22" frame on either the HucknRoll of vassago websites for comparison.
    thanks

    I am just over 6' with 33" inseam. I bought a 18" Bander and run a 85mm stem. It's spot on for me. Really depends on if you prefer the feel of a smaller or larger bike. I would say that you could probably fit the 18" but would be worried about the amount of seatpost length you would need sticking out of the frame. I have enough with my 400mm set up, but unless you you run a longer post you may run into "minimum insertion" issues. Something to consider.

    I would say, that if you are leaning toward the 22", just order a Jabber as you can run it SS or geared. just a suggestion.

    Great riding frame though, either way. Smooth as silk.
  • 11-29-2011
    Flat Ark
    If you do in fact have 160mm rotors and adapters then there is no reason it shouldn't work. You don't have the adapter turned the wrong direction do you? Can you post photos?
  • 11-29-2011
    toingtoing
    Hmmm, I wonder why it doesn't work? I'm using 160mm rotors (Avid Juicy 7s) on the rear and it works fine.
  • 11-29-2011
    classrc
    Make sure its a rear adapter... It is different than a front one.
  • 11-29-2011
    momills
    Have got it working Ok by using a 5mm spacer between the adaptor and IS mount. Might be cause I'm using shimano centre lock rotors instead if the avid ones?
  • 11-29-2011
    momills
    oops...........i meant 5mm spacer betwen the adaptor and brake
  • 11-29-2011
    classrc
    Sounds about right. The difference between front and rear brake offset is 5 mm. I *think* you have a front adapter on the rear...
  • 11-29-2011
    momills
    definitely got the adaptors on the right ends and right way round - have checked it against another bike with same brakes
  • 11-29-2011
    classrc
    Is it a radial interference or axial? Maybe the brake needs to slide further forward in its sloted frame tabs?
  • 11-29-2011
    momills
    sorry, not sure what you mean by radial or axial, but i have the same issue with front and rear and only the rear has slotted tabs.
  • 11-30-2011
    CupOfJava
    Does anyone know if Vassago treats the inside of the frame with anti rust?
  • 11-30-2011
    gjenkins@
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CupOfJava View Post
    Does anyone know if Vassago treats the inside of the frame with anti rust?

    I think so: Bikes are effin cool - JabberWocky
    Quote:

    Rtech, rust inhibitor treated tubing
  • 11-30-2011
    CupOfJava
    cool thanks
  • 11-30-2011
    skankingbiker
    Need help. Trying to buy a gear plug for my Jabber. Vassago's site has them listed, but no option to buy online. Huck N' Roll does not carry. Vassago won't return e-mails. Anyone know where to get one?
    Or, can I get away with just using a replacement derailuer hanger and a spacer on the other side of the axle?
  • 11-30-2011
    CupOfJava
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by skankingbiker View Post
    Need help. Trying to buy a gear plug for my Jabber. Vassago's site has them listed, but no option to buy online. Huck N' Roll does not carry. Vassago won't return e-mails. Anyone know where to get one?
    Or, can I get away with just using a replacement derailuer hanger and a spacer on the other side of the axle?

    Get a bandersnatch it's $350 shipped only few dollars more than a plug :)
  • 12-02-2011
    jrrider
    just got my Black Friday Jabber yesterday. Little disappointed, the headtube wasn't faced:confused:. HNR did me right though, they gave me a credit to get it done at a LBS.
    build list so far:
    Thomson seatpost
    CK headset soon to be polished
    XTR 960 crank soon chopped and polished
    Surly Karate Monkey forks
    BB7 brakes
    cheap-ed out on the wheels, Craigslist special for now
    still need saddle, stem and some other odds and ends.......cant wait to get this thing built
  • 12-02-2011
    robtre
    Dang I want one so bad, but most recently has the Chupacabra caught my eye.
  • 12-02-2011
    CupOfJava
    Hucknroll has some more coupons out. $60 off $300. You can get a new Jabber frame for $306 shipped.