Rampage not as much volume? Maybe it's just me but I've got Archs and Rampages and they look pretty fat to me for a 2.35.
Oh, I'm not saying that it looks skinny, jut not that fat compared to a lot of my other tire/rim combos. All of these are purely eyeball comparisons with mostly wider rims. It looks massive compared to the Jones ACX's 2.2s on my wife's American Classics. It looks a little bigger than an XDX on a Rhythm rim, and just slightly larger than an ACX 2.2 on a Rhythm rim. It looks about the same as a Saguro 2.2 on an Arch rim and the MK 2.4s on Flow rims. I'm sure it would look a little fatter if I threw it on the flows.
Sorry slightly OT thread hijack I have no pics but I do have a quick Jabber question for you owners...
Is the 454.5mm (17.9") published chainstay measurement on the frame taken "middle of the slot" on the dropouts, or is that the shortest-possible measurement with the wheel all the way forward?
Looking at these pics, it sure is a nice looking frame with the rigid fork, interesting to see the different wheel positions in the slots for the SS setups, some quite far forward, some not. Looks like a lot of adjustment, it would be nice to know what the "range" is. Thanks...
this will be the last one of mine. i *think* i am done for now. i actually have a white industries bb on the way, but that won't change the look at all.
this is from a ride today. i was in baggies and a t-shirt today, and it was 13 degrees on monday. it was amazing today.
Sorry slightly OT thread hijack I have no pics but I do have a quick Jabber question for you owners...
Is the 454.5mm (17.9") published chainstay measurement on the frame taken "middle of the slot" on the dropouts, or is that the shortest-possible measurement with the wheel all the way forward?
Looking at these pics, it sure is a nice looking frame with the rigid fork, interesting to see the different wheel positions in the slots for the SS setups, some quite far forward, some not. Looks like a lot of adjustment, it would be nice to know what the "range" is. Thanks...
That measurement appears to be right to the center of the dropouts. Measuring from the center of the BB shell to what would be the center of the hub axle in it's furthest forward position, looks to be approximately 445 mm, So you've got about two cm of total adjustment there. The "jabbernuts" tensioners add about 2 mm to that previous measurement because they've got a sizable head on them.
very recent updates to my Jabberwocky include Gordo/240s wheels with King stainless steel cog and Shimano SLX brakes to replace the crummy Juicy5 sets that were on there. I still need to trim the brake hoses as Shimano made them too long for a large size 29er. I'd hate to see if somebody installed this prebled set on a small 26er...
I love the Gordos for rigid SS'ing!
everything else on the bike...
headset - FSA Pig DH Pro
cranks - TruVativ Hussefelt
bar/stem/post - Easton Vice/EA50 stuff
saddle - Selle Italia Yutaak
This IS the next hubset I will use...haven't decided on hoops yet. Much lighter and smoother than the Kings I suspect? 240's make adjusting chainline a bit easier too.
[QUOTE=madcap]very recent updates to my Jabberwocky include Gordo/240s wheels with King stainless steel cog and Shimano SLX brakes to replace the crummy Juicy5 sets that were on there. I still need to trim the brake hoses as Shimano made them too long for a large size 29er. I'd hate to see if somebody installed this prebled set on a small 26er...
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dryheat? how do you like those wheels? I hear they are super light.
Where in AZ are you? CrashFLMB (posted his green Jabber on page 3) and I also ride jabbers. Here in phoenix. I have decided we need to form "Team Vassago" and be elitists on jabbers.
This IS the next hubset I will use...haven't decided on hoops yet. Much lighter and smoother than the Kings I suspect? 240's make adjusting chainline a bit easier too.
I'm sure both are very smooth. The fronts are close in weight but the King rear is about 100g heavier and has more engagement points. I don't really care much about engagement points or the "bling" factor the Kings provide. The Kings are damn nice hubs, though.
Chain tension looks a bit slack from here, do you that on purpose?
Yeah, someone else commented on that recently. I haven't heard it slap around and its never dropped so I haven't bothered with it. I guess I have a straight chain line or something.
I don't know, that blue and green is kind of novel. Doesn't bother me at all. Wish you could still get a Jabber in that color.
At first I didn't really like the color but it has grown on me...especially since it's the original color and unavailable now. My next bike is a Fisticuff...close if not the same color from what I've read and seen.
Why would I need more than one gear?
@A_SingleSpeeder
EPA = crooks!
dryheat? how do you like those wheels? I hear they are super light.
Where in AZ are you? CrashFLMB (posted his green Jabber on page 3) and I also ride jabbers. Here in phoenix. I have decided we need to form "Team Vassago" and be elitists on jabbers.
Yo Matt! dryheat? and I ride together all the time. He's very smooth on the full rigid. Our pal cycljunkie is waiting on his to arrive this week. Then we can have a four man elitist Mrs. V group in AZ!
Yeah baby! Yeah!
Why would I need more than one gear?
@A_SingleSpeeder
EPA = crooks!
Yo Matt! dryheat? and I ride together all the time. He's very smooth on the full rigid. Our pal cycljunkie is waiting on his to arrive this week. Then we can have a four man elitist Mrs. V group in AZ!
Yeah baby! Yeah!
Hey Crash,
There's a least 1 (me) Jabber rider up here in Preskitt, I've heard of one other, haven't met him yet. Plus there is Zach (semi-pro rider) riding his Optimus.
Jabbers rule! I like the green/blue combo on yours
That measurement appears to be right to the center of the dropouts. Measuring from the center of the BB shell to what would be the center of the hub axle in it's furthest forward position, looks to be approximately 445 mm, So you've got about two cm of total adjustment there. The "jabbernuts" tensioners add about 2 mm to that previous measurement because they've got a sizable head on them.
So, Shadows thanks a lot for posting the info. Had to let you know...I pulled the trigger today and just ordered an '09 Jabber in NoneMoreBlack! This will be my new "steel/rigid/purist/ss" 29er setup, mostly with parts I already have (which are pretty dang nice and idle in the basement or getting stolen off another bike... ) Can't wait to do the build and I can add my pic to the show in a couple weeks if all goes well.
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) Can't wait to do the build and I can add my pic to the show in a couple weeks if all goes well. 
