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    i just joined the family i saw a deal on a used jabber that i could not pass up.
    i think the weight is around 25 with some very heavy wheels. i am going to mess around with the bars a bit. not sure i like the current set up

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    Hey, Cap, how much did you pick that up for? There is a used one for sale here and I'm wondering how it's priced.

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    i paid 150 for the frame. since i neede a new seatpost, he alos sold me the post and salsa liplock for an additional 15. everything else came off my monocog, and everything except the wheels were upgrades. the wheels are next when i can afford them.

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    My Vassago, at 11,500 feet on the Colorado trail.

    Custom powdercoat paint. Its a metallic cool charcoal.



    Reba SL, wtb speed disc wheels, xt / xtr 1x9 set up. Probably not the lightest. I think I am around 28lbs with the nevgal tires.

    Stans wheels and hope hubs coming in the next few months. Once I sell my 26ers off.
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    my latest build

    before going back to rigid


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    Everyone has told me not to put a Reba on the Jabber. How do all you all like the Reba/Jabber setup?

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    My Jabber




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    i really like it. I dont know why a reba would be a bad thing. Its a great fork. And im normally a fox guy.
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    Not yet built up, but so far so good.
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    I have a Reba on my Jabber too. I have no problems with it. Steering is ok and toe overlap is not an issue.

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    posting again since i deleted my old picturetrail account

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    Great looking bikes, I've got a 20" white frrame/fork on order, supposed to ship next week. I've got all the parts, just need the Jabber

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    Here's mine. Not the greatest photos, but I'm posting this primarily for anyone who's on the fence about an 18" vs. 16" frame. I'm 5'9" on a good day (and in riding shoes). I was a bit confused by the sizing of these frames and had to make a decision without being able to try them out for size.

    I chose the 18" frame because I like a stretched out riding position, didn't want to run a long stem, and didn't want a super long seatpost sticking out of the seat tube. You can see from the photo that the amount of seatpost showing looks about "normal." The stem is a 110mm. The bike fits really well and feels great.

    I'm using an XT quick release on the rear wheel and have had no problems with it staying tight. Taking the rear wheel off is a little bit of a hassle because I have to dial out the tensioning screws to get the wheel off, then fiddle with them again to get the wheel back in place.

    Someone posted a closeup shot of an ODIS fork leg with a cable holder thingie on it. Is that an aftermarket stick-on cable holder? If it's some sort of stick-on thing, I'd like to get one. My fork is getting a lot of cable rub from the cable being zip tied on there.

    I bought the frame and fork used from Addictive Cycles and they were great to deal with.
    I don't have an accurate weight, but using the bathroom scale it comes in around 26 pounds.




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    Sinz headset
    Thomson Elite setback post
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    Fizik Gobi saddle
    Stronglight 32t singlespeed crank
    Stronglight bottom bracket
    Speedplay pedals
    DT 7.1 (or something...can't remember) rims
    American Classic singlespeed hubs
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    old SRAM levers
    King aluminum 17t cog
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    Quote Originally Posted by justanotherbikegeek
    ...Someone posted a closeup shot of an ODIS fork leg with a cable holder thingie on it. Is that an aftermarket stick-on cable holder? ....
    here's some:
    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...ose+Guide.aspx

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    man i sure do wanna build one next year!!!
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    Any of you guys using Continental MTN King 2.4's? Checked the website and they suggested muddy 2.3's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnachos
    Any of you guys using Continental MTN King 2.4's?
    Yes, the 2.4 it's not really a 2.4, more like a 2.2, (but it's plenty especially for a rigid) and you'll be fine. Also used the Halo Choirmaster 2.35, really a 2.35, it was a bit much for the mud, just fantastic for anything else.

    For the record I'm using the MK on a Flow rim, while the Halo was on a narrower Mustang rim.



    ps got me some mud guards after that ride

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    ive run the Kenda Nevgal 2.3 on my vassago. Nice, but they are super heavy.

    Right now im running the specialized fast trak pros. its a 2.0, but a really big 2.0. Feels like a 2.2.

    I love how fast the fast traks are. I use them on the oad for commuting, and on the smoother XC trails.
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    Here's mine... again.

    Some updates to mine. Still loving it like the day it was new.
    Now featuring: King BB, Boone ring and cog, XT cranks.
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    Here's a few bad and dirty pics of my Jabber. I've since cleaned it and she's even better looking now. I love having the original color Jabber but it really clashes with the blue that was on my Dean. Oh well, she may be an ugly duckling, but she's MY ugly duckling. And I wouldn't give her up for anything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    Yes, the 2.4 it's not really a 2.4, more like a 2.2, (but it's plenty especially for a rigid) and you'll be fine. Also used the Halo Choirmaster 2.35, really a 2.35, it was a bit much for the mud, just fantastic for anything else.

    For the record I'm using the MK on a Flow rim, while the Halo was on a narrower Mustang rim.
    I'm running dual MK 2.4s on flow rims as well...plenty of room and a nice ride.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarprobe
    I'm running dual MK 2.4s on flow rims as well...plenty of room and a nice ride.

    nice! btw have you tried the rampage as a front tire?

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    I don't know, that blue and green is kind of novel. Doesn't bother me at all. Wish you could still get a Jabber in that color.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB
    Here's a few bad and dirty pics of my Jabber. I've since cleaned it and she's even better looking now. I love having the original color Jabber but it really clashes with the blue that was on my Dean. Oh well, she may be an ugly duckling, but she's MY ugly duckling. And I wouldn't give her up for anything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    nice! btw have you tried the rampage as a front tire?
    I just mounted a rampage on the front of my Canzo (with a Saguro on the rear). Looks like a nice tire, but don't have any miles on it yet. Not as much volume as I was expecting (though on narrower arch rims), but don't need a ton of volume on the full squish.

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    Rampage not as much volume? Maybe it's just me but I've got Archs and Rampages and they look pretty fat to me for a 2.35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnachos
    Rampage not as much volume? Maybe it's just me but I've got Archs and Rampages and they look pretty fat to me for a 2.35.
    Oh, I'm not saying that it looks skinny, jut not that fat compared to a lot of my other tire/rim combos. All of these are purely eyeball comparisons with mostly wider rims. It looks massive compared to the Jones ACX's 2.2s on my wife's American Classics. It looks a little bigger than an XDX on a Rhythm rim, and just slightly larger than an ACX 2.2 on a Rhythm rim. It looks about the same as a Saguro 2.2 on an Arch rim and the MK 2.4s on Flow rims. I'm sure it would look a little fatter if I threw it on the flows.

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    Jabber Nuts

    jmilliron,

    Looks like Jabber Nuts on your rig, what do you think of them?
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    Here's a 1x9 in white:

    I-Motion 9 hub, FU bars, Thudbuster, it's a fashion statement:
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    Sorry slightly OT thread hijack I have no pics but I do have a quick Jabber question for you owners...

    Is the 454.5mm (17.9") published chainstay measurement on the frame taken "middle of the slot" on the dropouts, or is that the shortest-possible measurement with the wheel all the way forward?

    Looking at these pics, it sure is a nice looking frame with the rigid fork, interesting to see the different wheel positions in the slots for the SS setups, some quite far forward, some not. Looks like a lot of adjustment, it would be nice to know what the "range" is. Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt
    jmilliron,

    Looks like Jabber Nuts on your rig, what do you think of them?
    I think they are, they came with the frame. Work great.

    From today:




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    this will be the last one of mine. i *think* i am done for now. i actually have a white industries bb on the way, but that won't change the look at all.
    this is from a ride today. i was in baggies and a t-shirt today, and it was 13 degrees on monday. it was amazing today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyonrat
    Sorry slightly OT thread hijack I have no pics but I do have a quick Jabber question for you owners...

    Is the 454.5mm (17.9") published chainstay measurement on the frame taken "middle of the slot" on the dropouts, or is that the shortest-possible measurement with the wheel all the way forward?

    Looking at these pics, it sure is a nice looking frame with the rigid fork, interesting to see the different wheel positions in the slots for the SS setups, some quite far forward, some not. Looks like a lot of adjustment, it would be nice to know what the "range" is. Thanks...
    That measurement appears to be right to the center of the dropouts. Measuring from the center of the BB shell to what would be the center of the hub axle in it's furthest forward position, looks to be approximately 445 mm, So you've got about two cm of total adjustment there. The "jabbernuts" tensioners add about 2 mm to that previous measurement because they've got a sizable head on them.

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    very recent updates to my Jabberwocky include Gordo/240s wheels with King stainless steel cog and Shimano SLX brakes to replace the crummy Juicy5 sets that were on there. I still need to trim the brake hoses as Shimano made them too long for a large size 29er. I'd hate to see if somebody installed this prebled set on a small 26er...





    I love the Gordos for rigid SS'ing!


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    mine

    list of components

    Frame / Fork Vassago Jabber / Odis
    Headset Chris King
    Wheelset Stans Flow / Chris King (built by MikeC) thx agn.
    Saddle Bontrager Inform
    Pedals Crank Brothers Eggs
    Chain ring Rennen 32t
    Handlebar Bontrager satellite plus
    Grips Ergon
    Tensioners JabberNuts
    Brakes Formula k24
    Computer Cateye strada wireless
    Seat collar Surly constrictor
    Tires Rampage 29 x 2.35
    Seatpost Thomson setback
    Stem Thomson elite 90mm
    Skewers Crank Bros.
    Cog Chris King 18t
    Crank Fsa pro team carbon
    chain FMF hollow pin




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    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    I think they are, they came with the frame. Work great.

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    Chain tension looks a bit slack from here, do you that on purpose?

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    This IS the next hubset I will use...haven't decided on hoops yet. Much lighter and smoother than the Kings I suspect? 240's make adjusting chainline a bit easier too.

    [QUOTE=madcap]very recent updates to my Jabberwocky include Gordo/240s wheels with King stainless steel cog and Shimano SLX brakes to replace the crummy Juicy5 sets that were on there. I still need to trim the brake hoses as Shimano made them too long for a large size 29er. I'd hate to see if somebody installed this prebled set on a small 26er...
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    This was after I built it in '07. Since then, tried a Reba on the front, but am back to riding it rigid in the rocky AZ desert.


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    dryheat? how do you like those wheels? I hear they are super light.

    Where in AZ are you? CrashFLMB (posted his green Jabber on page 3) and I also ride jabbers. Here in phoenix. I have decided we need to form "Team Vassago" and be elitists on jabbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt
    This IS the next hubset I will use...haven't decided on hoops yet. Much lighter and smoother than the Kings I suspect? 240's make adjusting chainline a bit easier too.
    I'm sure both are very smooth. The fronts are close in weight but the King rear is about 100g heavier and has more engagement points. I don't really care much about engagement points or the "bling" factor the Kings provide. The Kings are damn nice hubs, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughocker
    Very sharp looking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    Chain tension looks a bit slack from here, do you that on purpose?
    Yeah, someone else commented on that recently. I haven't heard it slap around and its never dropped so I haven't bothered with it. I guess I have a straight chain line or something.

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10680290@N03/3120670981/" title="Jabberwocky 3 by tiflow_21, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3120670981_3c1d1b602c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Jabberwocky 3" /></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt
    I don't know, that blue and green is kind of novel. Doesn't bother me at all. Wish you could still get a Jabber in that color.
    At first I didn't really like the color but it has grown on me...especially since it's the original color and unavailable now. My next bike is a Fisticuff...close if not the same color from what I've read and seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattKHS
    dryheat? how do you like those wheels? I hear they are super light.

    Where in AZ are you? CrashFLMB (posted his green Jabber on page 3) and I also ride jabbers. Here in phoenix. I have decided we need to form "Team Vassago" and be elitists on jabbers.
    Yo Matt! dryheat? and I ride together all the time. He's very smooth on the full rigid. Our pal cycljunkie is waiting on his to arrive this week. Then we can have a four man elitist Mrs. V group in AZ!

    Yeah baby! Yeah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_FLMB
    Yo Matt! dryheat? and I ride together all the time. He's very smooth on the full rigid. Our pal cycljunkie is waiting on his to arrive this week. Then we can have a four man elitist Mrs. V group in AZ!

    Yeah baby! Yeah!
    Hey Crash,
    There's a least 1 (me) Jabber rider up here in Preskitt, I've heard of one other, haven't met him yet. Plus there is Zach (semi-pro rider) riding his Optimus.

    Jabbers rule! I like the green/blue combo on yours

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    Easton EA70 flatbar and seatpost
    King Headset
    Juicy 7 brakes
    American Classic wheelset
    Race Face Evolve Crankset
    Yada Yada Yada


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wampuscat
    Easton EA70 flatbar and seatpost
    King Headset
    Juicy 7 brakes
    American Classic wheelset
    Race Face Evolve Crankset
    Yada Yada Yada

    Very nice.........CF.

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    Brainwashed by this thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowsCast
    That measurement appears to be right to the center of the dropouts. Measuring from the center of the BB shell to what would be the center of the hub axle in it's furthest forward position, looks to be approximately 445 mm, So you've got about two cm of total adjustment there. The "jabbernuts" tensioners add about 2 mm to that previous measurement because they've got a sizable head on them.
    So, Shadows thanks a lot for posting the info. Had to let you know...I pulled the trigger today and just ordered an '09 Jabber in NoneMoreBlack! This will be my new "steel/rigid/purist/ss" 29er setup, mostly with parts I already have (which are pretty dang nice and idle in the basement or getting stolen off another bike... ) Can't wait to do the build and I can add my pic to the show in a couple weeks if all goes well.

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