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    Quote Originally Posted by canyonrat
    ...pulled the trigger today and just ordered an '09 Jabber in NoneMoreBlack! ....
    nice! did you get a fork too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pursuiter
    nice! did you get a fork too?
    Yes, matching black ODIS of course.

    Red King headset and Salsa seat collar for accents so far, and lots of slightly used but very nice parts for the build.

    I am looking forward to trying the full wetcat effect...both of my previous 29ers had the typical 72-deg head angle and riding out-of-saddle-SS a lot I always feel like I am right on top of the front wheel. Hoping to feel a little more behind the wheel without things getting too sluggish.

    I really have no desire for it to handle like a 26er. If I liked the way 26ers handled better, I would not ride 29ers.

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    Good job! Here's My Jabber

    Just finished building it up... Some of the parts are temporary until the rest of the build comes in. Still waiting on:
    Salsa Pro Moto Flat 31.8 x 11 deg. bars
    Thomson 100x10 stem
    New rear wheel - Hope Pro II SS/Bolt-on w/Flow rim
    WTB tires, WW front/Exi rear


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    nice!

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    for some reason I always liked the white vassagos.

    I have a metallic muted green / gun metal color. I like it, but its pretty low key. I think my next one will be a brighter color or white.
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    It isn't a Jabberwocky but it's a Vassago none the less. It's interesting how the Jabberwocky gets so much more talk time than the Bandersnatch.

    It had some 38mm cross tires on it at the time for dirt road spring training rides, it now wears 2.3 Exi's. And the flats/clipless come and go depending on the ride and time of year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahr_Nut
    It isn't a Jabberwocky but it's a Vassago none the less....
    Couldn't buy that model, wifey doesn't want me riding stray 'snatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahr_Nut
    It's interesting how the Jabberwocky gets so much more talk time than the Bandersnatch.
    I think thats because the jabber can be SS or geared. i ride my jabber as a 1x9


    Is that silver? or white with an odd camera white balance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattKHS
    I think thats because the jabber can be SS or geared. i ride my jabber as a 1x9


    Is that silver? or white with an odd camera white balance?
    Phantom Silver I think they call it.

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    Here's mine - waiting on the groovy luvs in Feb and will eventually get some new wheels. Other than that I think she's done.
    I really liked my SOMA 4one5 but this is all that and even more.
    Race Face Dues XC bar, stem and seatpost
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    rzims - sweet looking Jabber! Almost like mine except for I have a silver Salsa clamp and polished raw cranks...enjoy!

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    thanks - yeah, I thought the balck and red was pretty creative till I saw this thread and realized it's not "that" creative :-)

    Either that or amazing minds think alike :-)

    I really liked the SOMA 4one5 I had before this, but I freakin love this bike!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzims
    Either that or amazing minds think alike :-)

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    Not again?!

    I updated the bars w/ Syncros Bulk, whoop dee do! Im just bored.....
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    White bars look killer!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnachos
    I updated the bars w/ Syncros Bulk, whoop dee do! Im just bored.....
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    My Jabber...

    Product Photography / Bike Photography / Architecture
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    Nice looking one nkrax.


    Here's some updated pics of mine... changed a few parts... still love it.
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    Great build, looks like you really paid attention to your components. Nice touch w/ the XTR cranks.

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    Jabber vs. SIR

    Quote Originally Posted by cycljunkie
    Just finished building it up... Some of the parts are temporary until the rest of the build comes in. Still waiting on:
    Salsa Pro Moto Flat 31.8 x 11 deg. bars
    Thomson 100x10 stem
    New rear wheel - Hope Pro II SS/Bolt-on w/Flow rim
    WTB tires, WW front/Exi rear

    CycleJunk,

    I know you had a SIR Niner because I bought it from you. So far, the best bike ever. So it looks like you ended up with another SS. What didn't you like about the SIR? How do you compare it to the Jabber?

    It is almost like you had a similar bike as your Jabber, sold it and back on a similar build.

    just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkrax
    My Jabber...


    Good god man that is an awesome looking bike. I lust. Great job
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkrax
    My Jabber...

    A true artist. Great looking bike set with great scenery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nkrax
    My Jabber...

    Nathan,

    Great looking bike. And great photography on your site too!
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    looks to clean to me. I like mine dirty.

    What hubs are you running nkrax?
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    NKrax- she's beautiful, nice build as well. As MattKHS said she is way to clean, now go get her dirty!

    BTW - I'm an architectural shooter in AZ

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    Quick question... Is anyone out there trying mountain drops on one of these. I've recently become curious about this mountain drop idea but I'm not sure if it'd work. I don't really know why I just can't picture them on my bike.

    Anyone tried it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattKHS
    What hubs are you running nkrax?
    King ISO's.
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    Waiting on some 185 Avid Elixir CRs.

    Quote Originally Posted by cycljunkie
    Still waiting on:

    WTB tires, WW front/Exi rear

    Do you have the WTB tires now? How do they compare to the Ardents?

    I just went from Rampages to Ardents (tubeless on Stan Flow rims). They seem lighter/faster and I don't notice any downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmilliron
    They seem lighter/faster and I don't notice any downside.
    They are lighter, but not by much, maybe 20-30 grams. They just roll a ton faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnfiend
    Nathan,

    Great looking bike. And great photography on your site too!
    Thanks very much.
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    My white 20" Christmas present from wifey. Not "done" but now rideable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    My white 20" Christmas present from wifey. Not "done" but now rideable!
    That is quite lovely

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    Hey Pivvay, what grips are those? ESI whites? Which fork is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibrown
    Hey Pivvay, what grips are those? ESI whites? Which fork is that?
    ESI chunky (or whatever the fatter kind is called) and an On One carbon fork.
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    Went through this all thread, none of the pictures is showing a chain tug, many people are using a qr. How's that possible? Had a bunch of wheel moving issues running a QR on this frame, even with a tuggnut. Then I switched to bolt on (Hope trials hub), and I still have the wheel move from time to time, and I'm using the tuggnut, which is why I have another chain tug on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7daysaweek
    Quick question... Is anyone out there trying mountain drops on one of these. I've recently become curious about this mountain drop idea but I'm not sure if it'd work. I don't really know why I just can't picture them on my bike.

    Anyone tried it?
    I would have thought you would struggle due to the long top tubes on Vassagos?

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    Can't speak to other solutions, but I've been running various Jabbers with a King SS rear hub with giant 8mm FunBolts - has NEVER moved, not even a pinch.


    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    Went through this all thread, none of the pictures is showing a chain tug, many people are using a qr. How's that possible? Had a bunch of wheel moving issues running a QR on this frame, even with a tuggnut. Then I switched to bolt on (Hope trials hub), and I still have the wheel move from time to time, and I'm using the tuggnut, which is why I have another chain tug on the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    Went through this all thread, none of the pictures is showing a chain tug, many people are using a qr. How's that possible? Had a bunch of wheel moving issues running a QR on this frame, even with a tuggnut. Then I switched to bolt on (Hope trials hub), and I still have the wheel move from time to time, and I'm using the tuggnut, which is why I have another chain tug on the way.
    What you talk'n bout willis? There is a tug on the last bike posted, aka mine. DS only, non wimpy QR skewer. Works great and is the same as on my Monocog.
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    are you not using these?


    i had some problems with my brake causing the wheel to kick back (which a tugnut would not fix either), but I switched from my salsa QR to an XT, and now I have no problems at all.

    have you removed the paint? often times you cant get a good grip on the paint, and vassago recomends removing the paint on the slideout area.
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    I'm not using the stock screw things. Not good enough contact on my axle and too weak = instata bent. I took them out and slapped a tug on, issue solved. Plus tugs make it quicker and easier to R&R the rear wheel.
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    Hey Pivvay - that white is awesome looking! Almost makes me wish I hadn't gone with the none more black....good looking build

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    Just built mine a couple weeks ago.
    Medium, Short Bus Yellow
    Fork is from stock Haro Mary SS (heavy)
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    Jon,

    What were you riding before and how are you liking the Jabber? I really like the yellow! Good job man... I'm gonna post mine up once I get it cleaned up a little.

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    So been too busy riding in the warm CO winter to take pics and post them, but finally here is a shot from last weekend on the still-new frame:

    The parts will be in the usual constant state of flux...the front tire is already swapped out for an Ardent. Pretty nice ride on the frame I must say, great springy steel-feel. One funny thing is my Marta brake has so little slide-adjust on the rear because of the caliper design it is ridiculous..just not real compatible. I am getting a new set of postmount-adapted Louise brakes and the adapters should make everything cool with the Jabber rear brake adjust. Plus they are black.

    Ride on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt
    Can't speak to other solutions, but I've been running various Jabbers with a King SS rear hub with giant 8mm FunBolts - has NEVER moved, not even a pinch.
    The bolts on my Hope look very similar to King Funbolts, yet the thing moves

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattKHS
    are you not using these?


    i had some problems with my brake causing the wheel to kick back (which a tugnut would not fix either), but I switched from my salsa QR to an XT, and now I have no problems at all.

    have you removed the paint? often times you cant get a good grip on the paint, and vassago recomends removing the paint on the slideout area.
    Yes I'm using those bolts (have since replaced them since they bent after a while) and I scratched the paint, the rest came off by itself
    Yet the non drive side keeps moving back because of the disc, that's why I ordered another chain tug and I'm going to use a couple of nuts on the tensioner screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    I'm not using the stock screw things. Not good enough contact on my axle and too weak = instata bent. I took them out and slapped a tug on, issue solved. Plus tugs make it quicker and easier to R&R the rear wheel.
    I've bent a few screws as well. Just yesterday I tried this: removed the screws on the drive side, adjusted chain tension via the tuggnut, finger tightened the axle bolt on the drive side, centered the wheel via the screw on the non drive side, tightened the hell out of the bolt on the drive side, rechecked wheel alignment, tightened the axle bolt on the non drive said, just a bit more than finger tight, removed the screw, tightened the hell out of it. Then I put 2 nuts on each tensioner screw and reapplied them on the frame, once they couldn't go any forward i tightened the nuts against the frame, I'll see if this way the wheel still moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7daysaweek
    18" Jabber, custom built DT Swiss wheelset, White Brothers Rock Solid Carbon fork, Monkeylite SL's, Stylo Crank, Thomson stem/post, BB7s.

    LOVE IT!!!
    Why is your quick release pointing forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    Yet the non drive side keeps moving back because of the disc, that's why I ordered another chain tug and I'm going to use a couple of nuts on the tensioner screws.

    A chain tug is not gonna keep the non drive side in place. a chain tug keeps the wheel from sliding forward, not backward.

    The problem is the torque from applying the rear brake. On One explains it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattKHS
    A chain tug is not gonna keep the non drive side in place. a chain tug keeps the wheel from sliding forward, not backward.

    The problem is the torque from applying the rear brake. On One explains it well.
    http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/?page_id=669

    Thanks for the link. I guess I'm out of luck then, nevertheless I'm going to try one of these, which has a nut, then put some nuts on the tensioner bolt, and see if that works.

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    i just switched to a XT skewer, and i dont have any issues anymore.

    or any bolt on hub should be fine if you keep it tight enough, as mentioned above.
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    Try this-find star washers at a hardware store.Also use a good shimano QR or a DT RWS skewer.Also sounds simple-rough up or sand down the paint-inside and outside the dropout.The 'star'washers will set grooves into the metal so find your sweetspot first-i have seen some alum. bikes a mess with this-but a steel is tougher.We find the paint removal is usually enough with the good QR on any single speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblspeed
    The bolts on my Hope look very similar to King Funbolts, yet the thing moves
    I am using a DT 240s rear hub with the thru-bolt conversion, and a Hadley aluminum axle. The Hadley has no serrations on the nuts/bolt ends where they contact the frame, so it is all about getting the bolts tight enough for the serrations on the hub itself to bite on the inside of the track ends. I have the stock 2mm tensioner bolts that I use a little for adjusting when the bike is on the rack, then tighten very gently against the axle once the thru-bolt is already tightened down. I took the sheen off of the paint on the track ends with some fine grit paper but did not strip it them down to metal.

    So far so good...I only have a few rides in but last weekend hit some very rocky terrain where there were both erratic braking forces and climbing force against the axle, and the biggest bumps I could handle without walking, so...not a slip so far. I was a little concerned the Hadley axle is aluminum and thought I might strip the threads since I am used to tightening Surly steel track nuts...they have held so far. I would bet your Hope bolts are even more up to the task, so tighten those suckers down. I would rank the Hadley the least beefy solution compared to track nuts and King fun bolts...but it is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canyonrat
    I am using a DT 240s rear hub with the thru-bolt conversion, and a Hadley aluminum axle. The Hadley has no serrations on the nuts/bolt ends where they contact the frame, so it is all about getting the bolts tight enough for the serrations on the hub itself to bite on the inside of the track ends. I have the stock 2mm tensioner bolts that I use a little for adjusting when the bike is on the rack, then tighten very gently against the axle once the thru-bolt is already tightened down. I took the sheen off of the paint on the track ends with some fine grit paper but did not strip it them down to metal.

    So far so good...I only have a few rides in but last weekend hit some very rocky terrain where there were both erratic braking forces and climbing force against the axle, and the biggest bumps I could handle without walking, so...not a slip so far. I was a little concerned the Hadley axle is aluminum and thought I might strip the threads since I am used to tightening Surly steel track nuts...they have held so far. I would bet your Hope bolts are even more up to the task, so tighten those suckers down. I would rank the Hadley the least beefy solution compared to track nuts and King fun bolts...but it is working.
    the bolts Hope uses are soft, you'll strip them if you don't use a good fitting allen wrench.
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    today I had the first 30 plus mile ride with the dual chain tug set up (2 bmx Ciari chain tensioners which weigh less than a single surly tuggnut). it might not solve the brake side sliding back issue completely but the drivetrain felt way more solid than before, especially on long hard climbs.

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    I'm using Jabbernutz (I think thats right?) and xt skewers and have never had any movement of rear axle/wheel.

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    Well, I need to revise my previous comment. No, my wheel did not slip, but the wimpy little stock adjusters ARE bent now just as others mentioned. If a bolt can be bent or damaged in any way, I will certainly do it so no surprise there. Off to the stainless steel aisle at Ace Hardware, or maybe just run without for awhile...I think when I "gently" tightened them against the axle they bent.

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    My newest Jabberwocky






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    nice action photo!

    wish i was riding right now!
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    love the look of that white fox fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughocker
    Why is your quick release pointing forward?
    Actually its one of those DT Swiss RWS things. At the time the bike was brand new. I hadn't messed with it much yet so I wasn't really worried with the direction it was pointing.

    Here's how it looks now though. A few of the parts have been switched out and the rws is pointing backward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7daysaweek
    18" Jabber, custom built DT Swiss wheelset, White Brothers Rock Solid Carbon fork, Monkeylite SL's, Stylo Crank, Thomson stem/post, BB7s.

    LOVE IT!!!
    What chain is that you are running? I can't see very well, but it looks like a red half-link.

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    Clyde worthy Jabber

    May get some bigger sweep bars, but here it is for now.



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    How tall are you? Is that a 20"? Can you get a straight on side view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo108
    What chain is that you are running? I can't see very well, but it looks like a red half-link.
    Its a KMC Z410.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo108
    How tall are you? Is that a 20"? Can you get a straight on side view?
    I'm 6' and yes it is a 20". I ended up lowering the seat about 1/4"-1/2" and rotated the bars down a little more to find the sweet spot with this setup. I may try another set of larger sweep bars soon too.

    This is the closest to a side shot I have. If you like I could take a more level straight on side shot and/or maybe a shot of me on it, if you want.


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    does it look like everyone here is running negative rise stems or 0° ride stems?

    I had to flip my 5° upside down to feel comfortable on my 20" (6' 3").

    Its sad, but it bothers the heck out of me to see the stem logo upside down. I think i need to buy a negative rise thomson.
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    That is awesome. Love the orange paint on the fork and is that a custom ano job on the Eno chainring? I would love a red Eno chainring, but I would want a red cog too.
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    That is a pretty bad ass Jabber there too. Lots of orange ones out there.

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    Orange is the colour!

    Yes, the chainring and the fork are custom...

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    Bike looks awesome. My orange frame should be here today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    I'm 6' and yes it is a 20". I ended up lowering the seat about 1/4"-1/2" and rotated the bars down a little more to find the sweet spot with this setup. I may try another set of larger sweep bars soon too.

    This is the closest to a side shot I have. If you like I could take a more level straight on side shot and/or maybe a shot of me on it, if you want.
    I would really appreciate that. What is your inseam? What length are your cranks? Thanks.

    Also, if that is a 666mm Surly Torsion Bar which it looks like, I may be interested in buying it if you swap it out.
    Last edited by larryo108; 04-14-2009 at 06:05 PM.

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    Nice bikes everyone. I don't think I post pics of my jalopy Jabber in this thread.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooper58
    My newest Jabberwocky



    If you don't mind me asking where were these pics taken. That area looks kinda familiar. Probably my imagination though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahr_Nut
    It isn't a Jabberwocky but it's a Vassago none the less. It's interesting how the Jabberwocky gets so much more talk time than the Bandersnatch.

    It had some 38mm cross tires on it at the time for dirt road spring training rides, it now wears 2.3 Exi's. And the flats/clipless come and go depending on the ride and time of year.

    I can't stop looking at all of the great bikes in this thread. I have a question for you Stahr_Nut. What size frame is that? How tall are you? What is your inseam? That looks like a lot of seatpost, which I love to see. You have a great looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo108
    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    I'm 6' and yes it is a 20". I ended up lowering the seat about 1/4"-1/2" and rotated the bars down a little more to find the sweet spot with this setup. I may try another set of larger sweep bars soon too.

    This is the closest to a side shot I have. If you like I could take a more level straight on side shot and/or maybe a shot of me on it, if you want.
    I would really appreciate that. What is your inseam? What length are your cranks? Thanks.

    Also, if that is a 666mm Surly Torsion Bar which it looks like, I may be interested in buying it if you swap it out.
    Any chance you've been able to get another picture?

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    Im looking for a jabberwocky 18" frame if any of you guys are looking to off one...
    thanks

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    I see a bunch of Salsa Liplock's on Jabbers in this thread. I was told at the shop that there were issues with the Salsas on the Jabberwocky specifically. I was told that you can not get them tight enough and that the seatpost slips or you break the bolt. Any input?

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    i run a liplock on my bandersnatch with a thudbuster and it holds my 230 lbs up fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larryo108
    I see a bunch of Salsa Liplock's on Jabbers in this thread. I was told at the shop that there were issues with the Salsas on the Jabberwocky specifically. I was told that you can not get them tight enough and that the seatpost slips or you break the bolt. Any input?
    I didn't do a ton of research before buying my liplock - wish I had considered this. I'll be interested to see the replies and also to find out for myself
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    Liplock on mine also. Holding my 215lbs up fine also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky
    Liplock on mine also. Holding my 215lbs up fine also.
    AWESOME!

    Were you able to get anymore pictures? How big is your inseam? What size cranks are you using, 175mm?

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    im running a generic liplock with no issues on my thompson seat post. On my carbon is slips like crazy. I can never get it tight enough. even after rubbing some sand on the post, still slips slowly on long rides.

    I stick with the thompson these days. I moved the carbon to my road bike and its doing fine there.
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    My Liplock held up better than my Hope seatclamp... I broke the head off the bolt tightening it down, it was an aluminum bolt in aluminum threads, where as the Salsa is a steel bolt into steel threads I believe.

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    Good to know about the Hope. That was going to be my second choice. I guess I will steer clear of that one. I was just looking for a red seatpost collar to match my red headset.

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    Mine is finally complete. Had the first ride yesterday!

    :wq

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    I'm also set up with a thomson/salsa lip lock combo... I weigh 213 and it hasnt slipped at all

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    Thanks for the feedback on the liplocks. Ordered the frame, fork, headset, and liplock yesterday. So should have that next week. Then it's time to build the wheels and buy the brakes.

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    Lip Lock

    I've tried the quick release and bolt on versions of the salsa clamp on my frame with no issues at all. I also have a friend with a jabber running one with no issues that i've heard of.

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    Grats man!

    Looks really nice

    I had about a two hour ride on mine yesterday and just loved it... although the mosquitos are already out in texas

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    I have had mine built up since the fall just never took any pics yet. I have a 100mm minute that I have yet to put on but will later in the season as more to the technical rides melt/dry out. had a haro mary before and I like the jabber allot better, fells like a ridged version of my rip9



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    My humble Jabber
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    Lets see those Vassago Jabberwocky builds....



    the new build.

    Vassago Jabberwocky 29er frame/fork
    Deore hubs Mavic 317A rims DT 14g spokes
    Cane Creek S-3 headset
    Easton E70 bars and stem
    Avid BB-5 disc brakes/ FR-5 levers
    ODI Rogue lock on grips
    Intense 2.25 tires
    Shimano Hone crank w/ 34t Blackspire SS chainring
    Wellgo MG-1 Magnesium pedals
    WTB ?? Seat
    old Kalin seatpost
    Interlock Stingray seatclamp
    20t Dimension cog
    Sram 9 speed chain

    almost passed the Invisibility Test on the first ride, on rocky singletrack, in the dark!!

    Coming soon: used Thompson Elite seatpost from eBay
    and 2x9 gears without a front derailleur! Most of the time it will stay in the 34T ring, but a granny gear weights almost nothing, and where I live in CO everything is either straight up or straight down, for a long ways.

    here is the bike it replaced:


    I got the frame and fork at a garage sale in 8th grade for $3, now I'm 25. It has been through many different parts, and still rides great (except for the parts I pulled off to finish the Jabber) but was getting old.

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    If any of you Jabber owners have a take off ODIS fork that you want to get rid of, please let me know. I'm looking for one.

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    and now my Jabber converted to 1x9



    added the Thompson post, bar ends, Sram X-9 short cage derailleur, X-5 trigger shifter, Sram 11-34 cassette,....
    Rides amazing.

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    how well does yours shift?

    My 1/9 honestly shifts like garbage half the time. More like a 1x5, as I can never get it in each gear. It skips gears, and when I stand to pump up a hill, it usually kicks down 1 gear.

    I think that gear plug is just okay. I have trouble every time i take my rear wheel off with getting it back shifting semi smooth again. Its kind of a mess if you ask me.

    But i do enjoy my 1x5.
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    have you had shifting troubles with other bikes? it may be the mechanic.....
    Is the plug bent at all?
    I haven't had to remove the rear wheel yet, thankfully, it will be a bit rough if I need to do it on the trail. I had to tap the plug in gently with a hammer, even after lightly sanding the paint down inside the dropouts.

    The Sram derailleurs I've had on it (old X-5 while waiting for the X-9) both needed a 2mm or so alloy axle washer to clear the hanger. Thankfully the diameter of the axle washers was a perfect fit.


    If you are using a Sram derailleur (or shimano, even), check on this right now.

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