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    Quote Originally Posted by lokisare View Post
    While I think the EI would be nice I also like the simplicity of having a mechanical cable operated system... I think my ideal would be a race bike with the EI because I do sometimes forget to switch and find I've been climbing in fully open or descending in trail.
    This is why this system (the E:i) works so well for beginner riders! There is no thinking about what the proper position for this trail section is. They just ride. I am a little more experienced than the beginner (but not much), and I find myself listening for the whirl sound of the servo-motor as I ride. I smile every time I hear it. I am riding faster and more efficiently than ever, but not getting beat up by a suspension that is too stiff. I don't have enough experience or brain cells sitting idle to remember to adjust my rear shock on the fly. Luckily for me, I no longer need to!
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    My mates have now turned to a "Lappy" and the Ei is a constant source of discussion and amazement. I find that I use the CTD lever (XR Team, only option in Oz 2013 model) all the time, racing or just having fun. It is not a hassle and has become part of riding, but my mates with Ei do not to worry about it at all. With the LEV I also need to 'remember' to drop the seat on downhills - both levers are on the LHS of the bars, so both happen at the same time, down and up - easy. Still loving the bike and ripping up and down hills at speeds that I thought I could never do on my old bike.

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    Well, after a few weeks of long muddy winter rides I fancied a break from the weather, so I sent the importer some pictures of my frame in the areas I was concerned to see what they said:




    Straight away they said to have the shop arrange a replacement, and I could keep the bike until the replacement frame arrived - bonus! It took a couple of weeks for the new frame to come, I didn't ride the bike in that time but stripped it all down and serviced some parts ready, so that I just took the bare frame to the shop and swapped for the new one.



    I've now got a 2014 929 frame, not that there is any difference to my old frame other than colour and this has drillings for the EI system, which are no use to me but I do fancy making a tool box fit the battery mount (similar to Specialized's SWAT system) so I can ditch the saddle bag.

    Luckily I quite like the finish of the new frame and it should match all my components OK. The bare frame weighs almost dead on 1900g (size L, no shock) and interestingly the rear triangle of the replacement (which was still factory packed) was full of water sloshing about, and the only drain hole in the entire triangle is behind one of the hydraulic brake hose mounts where the zip tie threads through. not even in the lowest point in the frame. It was a nightmare to drain!

    Overall I'm happy with the service (including the 929 shock would have been even better!) and I will post a pic of the complete bike when built.

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    That's great how quickly you've had your problem dealt with... Ive just brought my XR back to the shop I bought it in.. (cracked and stress marks developing) I hope they manage to get a quick turn around on my frame.
    My EI shock has also developed an intermittent problem, needing to remove the headunit and reconnect it for the shock system to work.. However I do love the system, and think its not just for newbies or people who forget the manual lockout etc.. It fine tunes while you ride which, to my knowledge, no other shock system offers. Its been a great tool throughout the race season and very easy to set up.. Anyone considering it should take the chance... you wont regret it!

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    Well I got some great news today.. Ill have my 2013 XR-729 replacement, a 2014 XR-929 frame built up on Saturday. And ill have my replacement EI-shock system fitted aswell... All done in a week.
    Extremely pleased!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    Well I got some great news today.. Ill have my 2013 XR-729 replacement, a 2014 XR-929 frame built up on Saturday. And ill have my replacement EI-shock system fitted aswell... All done in a week.
    Extremely pleased!!
    Nice one mate, bagging a 2014 frame's a right result. Every cloud has a silver lining !!!

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    Well here it is... All built up on the 2014 XR929 frame along with the new EI system fitted..
    The shop was also good enough to mod. the bottom cable run so a full length outer could be installed, so hopefully no more rough gearing!
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    Sweeeeet! Notice you have Ron on the front and Ralph on the back - exact opposite to what I run on my XR Team. I put Ralph on the front to get a bit more rubber on my (mostly) dry, hard packed tracks. Any reason for you being the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCaat View Post
    Sweeeeet! Notice you have Ron on the front and Ralph on the back - exact opposite to what I run on my XR Team. I put Ralph on the front to get a bit more rubber on my (mostly) dry, hard packed tracks. Any reason for you being the other way around?
    cheers... 😉. Ralph is more of a block thread so I prefer it on the rear for a more solid feel, and Ron's thread is more diamond cut so has a more directional thread pattern helping reduce rolling resistance and side blocks for cornering grip. I love the set-up. Used it most of last year.

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    Excellent feedback, I'll check it out and next tyre change maybe give it a go. I also saw the new "Thunder Burt" tyres, might be good for racing on the right (dry) day and really light (although I'll probably wait for a snakeskin version). Love the 2014 frame BTW, looks fantastic especially with the different wheels. Total weight must be around 10-11kg? I must try to get a photo of mine up, I saw a few Lappys at the Cape to Cape in WA a few weeks ago, they seem to be getting a little more popular. Enjoy!!!

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    Yeah I really like the new frame. The steerer tube is 5mm longer.
    It's exactly 21.9 pounds so just under 10kg. Pretty good I think.

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    Here's some pics of my rebuilt XR with the new 929 frame. Also had to warranty the rear mech, changed to XT brakes (never liked the Formula RXs) and did the BB/headset bearings etc too. Click on the pic for the original size images.







    Weighs in slightly lighter than the old one somehow (pretty sure the frames were identical, must just be the lack of mud!



    My new rigid SS weighs 27lbs on the same scales

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    Awesome..

    Looks great.. Lapierre said a medium 2014 XR frame on average weighs 120grams lighter!

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    Must be all the random holes they drilled for the EI stuff

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    hi i was just wondering how you are getting on with the single speed chain ring? has the chain stayed on ok or dose it drop on the occasion? just because i am currently going to single speed and don't have a clutch on my rear mech and cant see any form of compatible chain guide for the XR frame.

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    Hi Mike, I have XX1 (and associated single front chain ring) and have been using it since September. I have not had the chain come off once. Not sure how using similar may perform as a SS, all I can say is that as 11 speed, I love it!!!

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    Well 7 months have passed since Hot Lines replaced my cracked 529 frame with a lovely stealth black 729 one and its bad news again !! The bike's back at my LBS. The frame has developed some nasty looking stress marks just above the BB and a big crack below the upper eyelet on the suspension pivot has appeared !! Fingers crossed I won't be XRless too long

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    Are the 2014 frames any stronger , less chance of cracking ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonelli View Post
    Are the 2014 frames any stronger , less chance of cracking ?
    Dunno about the 2014 frames being any stronger, but I defo read somewhere that Lapierre were using a different carbon layup on this years XR frames !!

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    Good news after only two weeks I've been given a 2014 729 frame as a replacement Gotta say I prefer the look of this years frames. Fingers crossed it's third time lucky!!!!Lapierre an their 29er FS-photo.jpg.
    Just a pity the weather's so shit ATM

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    Ok XR529 and above fans, great to see that there is a community out there liking the bikes. Had mine for a year now and couldn't bring myself to do the zip tie dropper post route although the rocket ron factory fit tyres had to go. Nobly Nics are far better for the muddy rough stuff.

    Still no cracks in the frame (XL size with 100kg rider) and am very surprised at the absolute kicking the bike is taking and it still comes back for more.

    Lost the metal bash tab by the front ring the other week - any ideas on what to replace it with?

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    Any advice on removing and installing brake hose through the frame on the XR729.
    Have been bleeding my Formulas one the bike but thinking next time removing them using the snap lock thingy on the formula brake hoses to do next brake bleed off the bike.

    Also have had troubles with the computer connections on the Ei not connecting perfectly with the head unit since month one (brought bike in NZ but now living in Perth, but visiting NZ next month). Just means speedo does not work but ei still works fine, I just cannot see what shock setting is displayed unless to turn the computer 1mm clockwise to get the pin connections lining up correctly which they do for about 30 seconds of riding before the computer rattles anti-clockwise 1mm and the computer disconects again.

    Excellent bike otherwise and my partner just pick up an unused second hand XR527 2013 for a great price.
    Actually on her XR527 the rear thru axle has a spacing washer on the outside of the thru axle next the axle leaver. I do not have that on my XR729. It seems strangle and a bad design as the washer can be very easily lost when removing the rear wheel and the wheel is loose int eh frame without. Is this typical on the XR527 2013 or have Lapierre have poor frame tolerance and add spacing in when frames do nto line up perfectly?
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    Hi, just have a quick question about sizes. I am 175cm tall and normally ride a medium. Would this be the same for this bike, or could I get away with a small?

    How tall are you and what size do you ride?

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    Re: Cracked Frame
    I have a Lapierre XR 529 2013 the same as Phil S and I now have the cracking around the shock mount after only about 50km of light trail. Noticed the frame creaking under load and took it back to the shop. Hoping for a reasonable outcome. I'll let you know how I get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev.M View Post
    Re: Cracked Frame
    I have a Lapierre XR 529 2013 the same as Phil S and I now have the cracking around the shock mount after only about 50km of light trail. Noticed the frame creaking under load and took it back to the shop. Hoping for a reasonable outcome. I'll let you know how I get on.
    Bad news about your frame cracking so quickly. No doubt you'll get a 2014 frame set as a replacement. Haven't heard any or seen any negative comments about the 2014 frames, mine's holding up fine. Can't comment on everyone else's 2014 frames, but I'm sure if anyone had had any issues they'd have cropped up on this thread. Hopefully Lapierre have got the frames sorted out now.

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    Any long term reviews of the durability and performance of the EI system?

    I'm keen to buy a Lapierre with EI, but only if I can trust the system. Have seem one bad review on an australian forum, just wondering if its an isolated case
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    Am about to pull the trigger on buying an XR529ei. Some good deals on at the moment.

    Hopefully the ei system isn't too problematic, have heard of a few issues with it. Would be nice to hear from people who've had it a while, and its still working!
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    The first run of head units had posts that were too short. They were replaced at no cost to the owners by Lapierre. This unit did not affect the e:i performance. My brother's e:i (729) was sucking the battery dry pretty quickly. Lapierre sent him a new harness. Problem solved. These are the only two issues I have personally seen, and I love my 529e:i! No regrets!
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    Lapierre an their 29er FS

    Loving my 14' 729 e:i but for some reason one of the suspension linkage bolts fell out while riding. I'm getting a replacement. Check that your bolts are tight! Lapierre told me that my bike was the first case. Here is a pic of my beloved one.


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    Linkage bolts do that on all brands at some time. I always check them before riding.
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    How long have you had them guys?

    I've wanted to try this bike, ever since I first heard about the EI. As a previous Epic owner, this system seems to fix all the traits of the brain that I didn't like.

    Just a bit nervous, since I have read of a few issues of the EI failing.
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    My wife and I got our XRs in September of 2013. No issues so far. We did swap our head units (displays) when the replacements came in, but had not experienced any problems with the original either.
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    Have had my XR729ei for 18 months and still going well. I use during Adventure Racing events where there is a lot of bike carry, assembly and disassembly and throwing the bike in a small bike box where there is good chance to damage cables and so far no issues with the system. PLease note there are a few more cables on the front of the bike to worry about. The system does what it meant to. The battery lasts for a long time (a month of summer riding, a lot less during winter with coldness affect battery life) and you can change the shock setting manually with a 2mm hex tool if the battery goes flat.

    The shock does not fully lock out hard when in lock mode. There is still some sag when locked out which may be equal to the Epic lock mode.

    The only problem I have had is in the Formula brakes which I do not like but they still work ok but not fantastic and they are not the easiest to bleed.

    Also locktite the retaining screw in the rear axle ratining nut. There is a little 3mm screw in the frame which come out if not locktite in.

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    Thanks for the replies, good to hear. Seems hard to find any long term reviews anywhere.
    Nothing here yet:
    LaPierre XR 29 29er Full Suspension Reviews - Mtbr.com
    And I've read of a few people having issues with the EI system.

    Anyway, I ordered an XR529ei, which I'll be upgrading with LB carbon wheels on Chris king hubs, and converting to 1 x 10. Hopefully it goes better than the Jet RDO it'll be replacing.
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    Lapierre an their 29er FS

    Ive had mine for 3 months and logged almost 1,000 miles. Rockshox sid, x01 and LB wheels with hope hubs and bike is super fun to ride! I just finished a 100k race last saturday in Ensenada and it worked flawlessly

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    Took delivery of my XR529ei last night.

    As stock it seems fairly heavy, and the supplied 2" Rocket Rons look way narrow.
    Hopefully most of the weight is in the wheels which I'll be selling.
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    Wow, this bike rocks. Its like the holy grail of rear suspension.

    This is what I've been wanting in a bike for the last 20 years. Efficient and firm on the climbs, and open like a duel suspension bike should be on the downs, without having to worry about any lockout levers. Awesome!

    I had one niggle in that the fork sensor wasn't picking up the wheel magnet too well. A trail fix had me put a small twig behind the magnet to push it in a bit closer. I'll put some more rubber behind the sensor as a more permanent fix.

    Just wondering what sensitivity everyone else uses on the Auto setting? I started at 4, thinking that when I had an Epic I ran it a few clicks from locked out, obviously the EI is completely different!
    I then changed it to setting 1, and it was perfect. Never found that it activated when I didn't want it to, so I can't really see the need for the other settings.

    Also does everyone ride with the computer attached? I've read that it doesn't need it. I'd rather leave it off and use my Garmin instead.

    It still feels a bit heavy, as I had to run the stock rear wheel. I'm at about 11.5 KG now. Hoping to get it under 11 KG when I get a thru axle for my Chris King hub, and lose the tube on the rear wheel too. I also will replace the stock post with a carbon one. After that I'll be struggling to shed any more weight.

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    Just wondering what shock pressure people are running?

    I initially had mine at 145psi - which was great going down, but a bit too relaxed for climbing (prob over 30% sag - 75kg 165lb). I was playing around with pressures over the weekend and went from 155 to 170psi, which still seemed to be giving a fair amount of sag >25%, but it did feel a lot better climbing - position wise.

    I'm not sure I'm getting full travel with this - though it feels fine, whereas the the fork (Reba RL) goes through its travel very easily - as all my other RS forks do, no matter how much pressure I put in.
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    Anyone know if there are any deals out there on these? I am interested in getting one.

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    In Australia there are. I'd assume since the 2015 models are out with a better computer arrangement, that there should be deals on 2014 models, wherever you are.
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    I'm in the US, there are so few Lapierre dealers that there really don't seem to be any deals on 2014 bikes.

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    Frame design issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by xcbarny View Post
    Thanks for the replies, good to hear. Seems hard to find any long term reviews anywhere.
    Nothing here yet:
    LaPierre XR 29 29er Full Suspension Reviews - Mtbr.com
    And I've read of a few people having issues with the EI system.

    Anyway, I ordered an XR529ei, which I'll be upgrading with LB carbon wheels on Chris king hubs, and converting to 1 x 10. Hopefully it goes better than the Jet RDO it'll be replacing.
    As far as long-term reviews go: I had an XR 529, bought early 2013 and recently changed.

    In that time I had a couple of issues with bits of the EI loom needing replacing – meaning a few weeks riding it in manual mode. The main connection box is down near the BB, which due to the design of the rear shock cradle, gets plenty of water coming in (it will drain away if the drain hole is cleared). That didn't help.

    The main issue I had was cracked frames. I went through 3 frames, that all cracked in the same area: around the rear shock cradle. I'm not a heavy rider, and I live in a flat xc type terrain area, so it never had a hard existence.

    In the end I my LBS got me a refund and I went for an Epic.

    FWIW I thought it was a fabulous bike, loved riding it. When the EI works it's brilliant also. BUT, I think (and LBS agreed) there's a fundamental design flaw with the cradle. It's pretty thick carbon in that area, but I don't think it can handle the simultaneous stress loads of rider through seat tube AND the rear end pushing through it.

    Shame. It's basically the same design for 2015 (the last frame was a 2015 729 which lasted 6 weeks), but I think they'll have to rethink at some point.

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    Has anyone had any issues with their battery holding charge?

    I used to be able to get 3 - 4 2hr rides in, and the battery would still have more than half its power. Now its drained by the second ride.
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    Had my XR 529 for 3 years now and it´s a dream. NOTHING to complain over...have tried many other bike in the same segment ...Trek, Specialized, Scott...still convinced that this is one of the best bike. Done some changes from year 1: AM Race 29 wheels, Singel in front and a 42 cog on the rear...Magic Marys for winter (TL) and Thunder Burt during racing season.
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    Hi everyone, need some help/advice…

    The front fork on a XR729 ei (Reba RL), can I 'upgrade' the fork and just transfer the zip tied magnet over or is there internal ei related voodoo going on that means it isn't so easy?

    Thanks in advance

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    Its a standard fork, so just move your sensor to the new fork.
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    Thanks Barny

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    Quote Originally Posted by trener1 View Post
    Anyone know if there are any deals out there on these? I am interested in getting one.
    I just got a great deal in Australia Melbourne for a Lapierre 729 2015 model. Paid $5200. There are 929 ei 2014 models going for $4799 at the moment through the following link Bikes for Sale | Bike and Cycling Shops - BikeExchange.com.au

    Out on my bike for the first time tomorrow so will let you know how I go although I dont think the bike shop set the sag up correctly so a bit annoyed.

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    Let us know how you get on. It would have been a tough choice between the '14 929 and the '15 729.

    I think the computer looks much better on the '15 models. I'm having a few issues with the display on mine connecting, like others have, but the bike is still working fine. I'm hoping they'll upgrade me to the '15 computer as a new display unit didn't fix the issue.
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    I just noticed that the 2015 models are coming with 51mm offset forks:
    Lapierre Bicycles - XR 729

    Does anyone know what offset forks were on the 2014 models?
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