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    It's my only regret that I didn't choose the IE...but I'm hopefull that this error by me can be solved later on . We are all harbouring a geek inside us and SO...why not try IE...geeky?...yes..check! Got to have! ;-D

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    Yes, openly admit.. I'm a gadget geek!

    And I love it! 😃

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOger View Post
    The mud guard!! What happend...did it work or was it a debris collector?
    I bought one from Mucky Nutz as recommended by the UK riders on here. Hasn't really been muddy but I've raced over 200km with it on and the rear shock seems to stay a lot cleaner. Yet to test in really muddy conditions but I'm pretty sure it will work well, no signs of it being a debris collector.

    By the way I got the older version of the mucky nutz one (2.0) for cheap as well as a new version but the older version actually fit the rear better.

    As for the other posts about the XR, I chose the non-EI version mainly because I was a little reluctant to get a battery-dependent mechanism on my bike. I do a lot of 24 hour racing, 100km races etc and I was worried it was just one more thing to fail or to need to remember to charge. Having said that I now wonder what riding EI would be like - perhaps I'll venture into that territory in the next few years.

    I have the CTD remote lever which is a whole step up on my old Anthem with the propedal down somewhere that I couldn't ever find without taking my eyes off the trails. the CTD seems to work great, I ride mainly in "trail" or the middle setting but open it right up for longer or rougher descents and lock it right out for firetrail flats or climbs. It does not give any where near the amount of adjustments the EI would do but it's cable operated on doesn't need charging ;-)

    I also bought the bike when there was NOTHING anywhere to be found on the internet about it so perhaps now with these reviews I would be more tempted by EI. Although I do like the fact that I don't have to remember to charge anything before I ride.

    In terms of the bike itself - it's awesome. Don't by the Anthem, this is so fast, nimble. I think it's summed up by another friend of mine who just got the 529 on my recommendation. She said "it doesn't feel like a 29er" so true, I feel as nimble as I did on my 26er. I haven't ridden the Anthem but with a longer rear stay and wheelbase I don't think it'll have the same feel.

    To me the only other bike that came close was the Epic, I know some people on here didn't like the Epic but I found that was another bike that handled well straight off the demo rack.

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    The other thought I had is that, the EI system seems to be quite sought after as a stand alone setup, which it won't be available as until next year at the earliest.
    If you bought it and its not for you, sell it... And buy whatever shock you like.
    Not an ideal situation to end up in but I'm certain you'll have no problem offloading it!
    I'm a cross country guy so the life of the battery wasn't really a concern. Though I've definitely had in excess of 26 hours riding without charging. I've never ran it flat and taking just 1 hour 10 minutes to charge..(it is that precise) its not alot considering the usage you get in return.

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    Definately buying one now. Im not even fussed to do a proper off-road demo.

    Just hope it sizes right for me.

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    Hope

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    Definately buying one now. Im not even fussed to do a proper off-road demo.

    Just hope it sizes right for me.
    This one is for you Stephen!
    What a terrible and joyful decision you're making!
    I started OVER a year ago to scout the market...by august last year I had narrowed it down theese:
    -Specialized Epic Expert..yup..I know..cows follow the herd
    -Trek Superfly 100 Elite..safe card..BUT...they started changing components...
    -Ibis Ripley 29...looked SO FINE...but to much Enduro
    -Niner Jet RDO...awesome...but...but...nope
    Then I met the owner of the newly opened bike store who had been to Euro-bike and told me about Lapierre! Look them up on the almighty web...hmm...interesting..just how I would build a bike...AND they send it from factory with almost the stuff I want...have you noticed how the companies splash the stuff on the bikes...front derailliur SRAM X5,rear der. Shimano XT, crankset FSA SPXGTA XL???? and it goes on....I'm in my mid 40's (cranky) but I loved when you could choose a XT full-equiped bike and you knew THAT will work...and you could almost give a toss what the frame looked like. Told my dealer I REALLY want to try that one...waited...waited..october came...bike supposed to come...nope....waited...aaaaargh...what to do...well..I ordered the bike...without trying it out....never regretted that decision..I'm 176cm.. ordered a Medium....works like a charm cause its smaller (by a couple of centimeters) than my Specialized Stumpy M (17,5) hardtail.
    Hope that will help you!

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    Thanks lokisare!
    Had my first day out with "almost-without-snow" conditions...well....the first couple of clicks...but realized quickly what a good idea tha mud guard was...ordered it as soon I arrived home.

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    If the EI measures the hit on the front and uses it to damp the rear, then what is controlling the front damping? Does the EI also control that automatically? Based on what?

    Hope i havent proved my terminal ignorange?

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    There is an accelerometer on the fork leg, in the bottom bracket and one in the computer display. They simply measure the movement of the bike, not the front fork. The reason their attached ahead of the shock is simply to advance warn the system what to set the rear shocks setting to...
    The front fork has no attachment to the EI system itself.
    Hope that helps to with your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    The other thought I had is that, the EI system seems to be quite sought after as a stand alone setup, which it won't be available as until next year at the earliest.
    If you bought it and its not for you, sell it... And buy whatever shock you like.
    Not an ideal situation to end up in but I'm certain you'll have no problem offloading it!
    I'm a cross country guy so the life of the battery wasn't really a concern. Though I've definitely had in excess of 26 hours riding without charging. I've never ran it flat and taking just 1 hour 10 minutes to charge..(it is that precise) its not alot considering the usage you get in return.
    Like I said, I committed to buy in December before anyone on here was riding EI, decision may well be different if I was buying now! :-) Maybe I'll be due for an upgrade next year ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOger View Post
    Thanks lokisare!
    Had my first day out with "almost-without-snow" conditions...well....the first couple of clicks...but realized quickly what a good idea tha mud guard was...ordered it as soon I arrived home.
    I just had to trim mine a little to make sure it didn't impact the shock linkage when the rear suspension compresses... I'm sure you'll work it out. Seems like a great little product, I bought an extra for the front for muddy conditions but haven't used it yet - apparently keeps fork stanchions much cleaner too.

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    You would have had to wait like me if you'd wanted an EI model. I ordered mine end November/beginning December but the first batch of EI bikes didnt come into the country until February! So at least you didn't have a ridiculous wait!!

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    Have booked a real off-road test this weekend. Will let you know what i think.

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    Had a great weekends riding on my XR529, Saturday was a 400 mile round trip to ride at a place called Afan in South Wales, we did 30 miles of great trails in the sun! While it doesn't mean a whole lot I was pleased to see on Strava afterwards that I got a bunch of top 10s (out of a few thousand people) on the long rocky downhill segments - not bad for my first time there and on an XC bike!

    Got home Sat night, oiled the chain (didn't touch anything else at all) and then did a 4 hour enduro xc race on Sunday. The course was mega tough with almost zero flowing sections where you could get a rest or find a rhythm. Finished 9th in the top category which I was happy with for my first proper race and I was riding unsupported so had to fetch bottles and gels from the car a couple of times (not to mention a hard ride the day before!)

    The bike seemed to handle it all fine!

    For those of you using the rear guards, just check and trim the bit that sits against the linkage. I didn't at first and have a small amount of wear in the carbon from the grit that gets in there.

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    Had a quick trip this weekend on a trail I usualy hated on my old HT 29er.
    Itīs infected with roots,stones with that perfect distance between to give you thoose lovely abrubt stops and no flow at all if your not on a 26''. BUT this time it wasn't that awful at all...I actually had to stop after a couple of clicks when I realized my freinds were behind me and not the other way around. I had my "shock pump" with me and tweeked front/rear and it got even faster. Couldn't be happier...what a ride...

    By the way Phil! Have you done any trail riding in the Brecon Beacons?

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    Nope, never ridden in the Brecon area, would love to at some point when I get chance (was going to do the Rough Ride this year but can't make the date)

    I've heard good things about it, I bet it is perfect for longer rides on a short travel 29er!

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    Hey, does anyone know about the bb on these?? I was sure it was a bb30, but the carbon chainset has gxp printed on it!! So now I'm confused!!!

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    gxp means 24mm axle. so either they run adapters for bb30 or more likely the frame is another pressfit standard.

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    So you think the frame is indeed 24mm and not the bb30 standard as advertised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    So you think the frame is indeed 24mm and not the bb30 standard as advertised?
    on the LaPierre website (link in the OP) the specs say just pressfit bb, the standard is not specified, no mention about bb30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syl3 View Post
    on the LaPierre website (link in the OP) the specs say just pressfit bb, the standard is not specified, no mention about bb30.
    Lapierre XR 729 | BikeRadar

    States bb as do most others including an email from hotlines though they said specs vary!!

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    Turns out its a bb92 press-fit bottom bracket, should anyone want to change it!! xx cassette, rear derailleur, shifters fitted.. Chainset on the way!! That really us the last upgrade I'm making!! lol..

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    Ei with fork locked out...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    There is an accelerometer on the fork leg, in the bottom bracket and one in the computer display. They simply measure the movement of the bike, not the front fork. The reason their attached ahead of the shock is simply to advance warn the system what to set the rear shocks setting to...
    The front fork has no attachment to the EI system itself.
    Hope that helps to with your question.
    Question...if the fork is locked out what does that do to the system? Will it still respond in auto mode?
    Seriously thinkin bout one of these...thanks mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianthom View Post
    Question...if the fork is locked out what does that do to the system? Will it still respond in auto mode?
    Seriously thinkin bout one of these...thanks mate
    It doesn't effect the system as the system doesn't monitor the forks travel, just the lower legs movement along with movement/vibration on the handlebars and on the rear shock itself through accelerometers.

    Heres a good, basic understanding of how accelerometers work.

    A beginner's guide to accelerometers

    Hope that helps!

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    Have been riding my XR 529 for a couple of months and WHAT a joy....bought the American Classics MTB race 29 wheelset....and what a difference it made...itīs not the fact that it shaved over 1 kg "off" the rotating weight...the "NO flex" feeling is actually more impressing. One thing I have to solve is how to "after fit" a manual remote for the rear suspension....itīs not something you want to fiddle with during a race...not so convinced anymore that the EI is for me...I like manual. At the last race I had the opportunity to try both Spec. Epic Expert and the Trek Superfly Elite and got that fuzzy fealing...I made the right descision choosing the XR. Thought of going 1x10 but I'm not shure...don't you "max out" to fast going downhill?

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    I'm slightly confused...
    If you already have the XR529 the EI option isn't an option, unless you but another complete XR as its still not available as an individual system. At least not in the UK.

    I guess it depends on what rear shock you have fitted.. Fox do rear shocks with, on the fly adjustment. I've no idea what rock shox do at the moment. Very few people I've spoken to who have the Fox CTD with remote say they never use the remote as they leave it in "T" in races, never feeling the need to adjust it!

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    Don't be confused...

    I just ment WHEN it's available...I won't buy it..I LIKE the option to switch the bike into "ridgid"-mode...Rock shox is not an option...I like the CTD..and want it in 2-mode only "ridgid/"T"" and a solution is the remote for my front suspension (rock shox) BUT "slightly tweaked". Thats the way I want it..Manual..

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    I think the electronic suspension thing is going to take off the next 12 months or so, I wouldn't be surprised to see this concept get developed and adapted to more and more bikes. While I think the EI would be nice I also like the simplicity of having a mechanical cable operated system... I think my ideal would be a race bike with the EI because I do sometimes forget to switch and find I've been climbing in fully open or descending in trail.

    On the upside I am loving my bike, I fall more in love with it every race and haven't yet found anything it can't do. I've finally updated my blog with more race reports so if anyone is interested the link is in my signature I think.

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    Had mine for 7 months now, still going pretty well! Did the Mountain Mayhem 24hr on it last weekend and I was sailing past everyone, which was nice!

    When racing I always just leave my bike in trail mode. I'm usually too broken to think about changing shock settings, or the climbs are too bumpy anyway!

    I have a 100km race on it this weekend, which I know is going to be brutal as it is my local trails and all twisty singletrack, short steep climbs and short steep descents. Barely any rest or sections to get in a rhythm where is where I'm usually good.

    1000 mile report on my bike:
    - The Reba forks needed a service after less than 200 miles. Putting that down to the bad winter!
    - Changed to Gore sealed gear cables (the originals didn't last long in our winter as mud got in the liners where they come out by the BB)
    - Freehub on original wheels sounded bad from the start and turned crunchy after less than 200 miles (I have a few wheel options so not using the original wheels at the moment). Can't get a replacement either as even hotlines can't ID it!
    - Rear Fox shock bushings developed play during last weekends race. Quick and easy change
    - Paint cracking around the rear pivots - Looks like it is just where aluminium inserts for shock and bearing mounts are meeting the carbon of the frame, hopefully nothing to worry about
    - Some possible stress marks in the carbon on the top of the shock mount part (on the inside of the corner where it meets the seat tube). Will keep an eye on those!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil S View Post
    Had mine for 7 months now, still going pretty well! Did the Mountain Mayhem 24hr on it last weekend and I was sailing past everyone, which was nice!

    When racing I always just leave my bike in trail mode. I'm usually too broken to think about changing shock settings, or the climbs are too bumpy anyway!

    I have a 100km race on it this weekend, which I know is going to be brutal as it is my local trails and all twisty singletrack, short steep climbs and short steep descents. Barely any rest or sections to get in a rhythm where is where I'm usually good.

    1000 mile report on my bike:
    - The Reba forks needed a service after less than 200 miles. Putting that down to the bad winter!
    - Changed to Gore sealed gear cables (the originals didn't last long in our winter as mud got in the liners where they come out by the BB)
    - Freehub on original wheels sounded bad from the start and turned crunchy after less than 200 miles (I have a few wheel options so not using the original wheels at the moment). Can't get a replacement either as even hotlines can't ID it!
    - Rear Fox shock bushings developed play during last weekends race. Quick and easy change
    - Paint cracking around the rear pivots - Looks like it is just where aluminium inserts for shock and bearing mounts are meeting the carbon of the frame, hopefully nothing to worry about
    - Some possible stress marks in the carbon on the top of the shock mount part (on the inside of the corner where it meets the seat tube). Will keep an eye on those!
    Don't wanna worry you but I would defo keep get an eye on them "stress marks". Had my XR 529 5 months and my frame cracked right through there. It took my LBS over a month to get the frame replaced under warranty. HotLines had a real problem trying to get hold of one, it seems they're in short supply ATM. In the end I got a XR729 frame set which defo looks the dogs tho. Love the bike, but got reservations about the frames durability now. I always check the frame over after every ride. Interestingly I have noticed that in the area that cracked, on the replacement frame, the carbon seems thicker when you put your finger up the seat tube .

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    Ouch, I will definitely keep an eye on it then. To be honest there isn't a single person I ride with who has had a carbon frame that hasn't cracked at least once. A carbon MTB is definitely something I'd only buy from new and expect to get swapped under warranty once or twice!

    Nice to see you got an upgrade for your wait though - i'm not fussed if mine breaks but I would be annoyed to wait a month with no bike.

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    Being without a bike for a month was seriously frustrating especially as I had to cancel a couple of events I'd planned to do.

    Hopefully my replacement's gonna last longer than the original !!!!!!

    Anyway at least it seems that the warranty's a good un, A big thanks to Steve at HotLines for getting it sorted.

    Every cloud has a silver lining, Looks well sexy in matt Black.

    Lapierre an their 29er FS-lapierre-xr-v2-007.jpg

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    Great to see other XR owners out there, bit worried about the frame cracking story though. Use mine for FOD duty and cracking around south wales, great bike, seriously fast and not too dim witted with big wheels. Thinking of upgrading to a dropper post and some gripper tyres

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    Great to see a specific LaPierre thread. Love the 729 (I have a thing for black frames), I'm picking up a new XR Team tomorrow. One of the last XLarge frames available in Aus and could 'only' get the Fox shock, Ei will be in the distance for me. Love the concept, but CTD will be a big step up all the same. I have put Enve/DT Swiss wheels, Racing Ralph/Rocket Ron tyres and an XX1 drivetrain straight on it - based on the above I hope the frame lasts - I'm 6'4 and 99kg so will no doubt stress it quite a bit.

    My bike shop recommended the Team specifically for the frame strength and gave me a good deal, how could I resist! Hope to post a photo and a description of just how it rides in the next week. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCaat View Post
    Great to see a specific LaPierre thread. Love the 729 (I have a thing for black frames), I'm picking up a new XR Team tomorrow. One of the last XLarge frames available in Aus and could 'only' get the Fox shock, Ei will be in the distance for me. Love the concept, but CTD will be a big step up all the same. I have put Enve/DT Swiss wheels, Racing Ralph/Rocket Ron tyres and an XX1 drivetrain straight on it - based on the above I hope the frame lasts - I'm 6'4 and 99kg so will no doubt stress it quite a bit.

    My bike shop recommended the Team specifically for the frame strength and gave me a good deal, how could I resist! Hope to post a photo and a description of just how it rides in the next week. Cheers.
    Sure you're gonna be impressed with the Team especially with the XX1 group set fitted, its awesome !!

    By what your LBS is saying the Teams frame set is stronger. So is it made from a better quality carbon than the 529 & 729 ?? The Lapierre web site seems to imply it is

    Interestingly the 2014 XRs frame has a new carbon fibre lay up to increase "stiffness" or is that another way of saying making it stronger (less crackable), Lol

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    Well, my new bike delivery was certainly sweet and sour. Sweet in the ride, the weight, performance of the Enve wheels, XX1 and LaPierre frame - working together brilliantly. What a bike!!! But...... sour in that sometime during the first weekend 3 rides I cracked the carbon. It seems that Phil S is a fortune teller and can see the future of every carbon frame!! Anyway, the new frame part (knuckle between rear triangle and shock) is on its way to my LBS and I should have the bike back on track next week - fully supported by warranty (good service). Then I get to smile again. More later, once I get going. The 2014 Team frames come with XX1 and look brilliant.... but I needed it now.

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    Mine is still holding together well, and it has taken a serious beating at a few XC races and trails here there and everywhere recently. It still amazes me how fast it goes downhill!

    I've fitted a 32t Goldtech narrow-wide chain ring and an XT shadow+ mech on mine recently, so that I could ditch the front mech and shifter. It converts really cleanly due to the low mount front mech. I'm not sure how well i'll get on with marathon events and long steep climbs with that gearing though, but I love the simplicity and completely silent drivetrain, plus the pedal and forget nature of not having the chain half drop off like it does on rocky DHs with a front mech.

    At the moment mine weighs 22.8lbs (without pedals so I could compare to the factory weight) which I reckon is impressive for a few minor upgrades and no weight weenie efforts at all. I've also had some chinese carbon rims delivered which are now at Goldtech being built up. Hoping they are a good deal stiffer than the WTB Stryker i'm currently running on the front (have a Ritchey WCS Vantage carbon rear wheel which is very nice!)

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    Anybody else having issues with cracking at at the shock link/seat tube? Im considering this bike, but cracking the frame because of the design would suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil S View Post
    Mine is still holding together well, and it has taken a serious beating at a few XC races and trails here there and everywhere recently. It still amazes me how fast it goes downhill!

    I've fitted a 32t Goldtech narrow-wide chain ring and an XT shadow+ mech on mine recently, so that I could ditch the front mech and shifter. It converts really cleanly due to the low mount front mech. I'm not sure how well i'll get on with marathon events and long steep climbs with that gearing though, but I love the simplicity and completely silent drivetrain, plus the pedal and forget nature of not having the chain half drop off like it does on rocky DHs with a front mech.

    At the moment mine weighs 22.8lbs (without pedals so I could compare to the factory weight) which I reckon is impressive for a few minor upgrades and no weight weenie efforts at all. I've also had some chinese carbon rims delivered which are now at Goldtech being built up. Hoping they are a good deal stiffer than the WTB Stryker i'm currently running on the front (have a Ritchey WCS Vantage carbon rear wheel which is very nice!)
    Good to hear your frame is holding up well, at the end of the day if the warranty's a good un I think It's not such a big deal if you have to have a replacement, just inconvenient. Despite this it's still a great bike!!

    Mine's going, and looking, great with the new 729 frame set and it's being well used. Done some events including the Bontrager 24/12 lots of trail centre days Afan, Bodmin etc and a few XC races and it's performed without a problem apart from a change of rear gear cable. Having the rear mech cable exit from under the BB doesn't seam like the smartest place IMO.
    Apart from the frame, forks and brakes I've changed everything else. Now running a XX1 chainset 28t (weak legs lol ) xo type 2 rear mech and shifter. gold KMC L chain, 1070 cassette, Jagwire ripcord cable, Mavic crossmax ST wheels and Hope mono saw rotors, Truvativ noir carbon bar, Easton stem, Thomson set back post and Fizik saddle. Comes in around 23.8lbs including XT pedals.
    HELP I need to stop spending money !!!

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    I did get my XR Team back within 2 weeks and have been riding each weekend since - every ride it just gets better. Have to smile and am constantly amazed at what it does and how fast it is compared to my old Ellsworth. No further problems, the frame and bits all going well. Just wondering about a dropper seat, would be nice but not sure and it will weigh a bit on what is currently a very light bike. In short, loving it!!

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    A year has gone...well..it ain't over...but my bike has been a delight. The AC race MTB wheels was a the best improvement I ever have done/felt on a bike.... Next year I probably will switch the XT cranks to XX1 BUT it's with some hesitation due to the fact that with the current setup in front (38/26)... I run out of gears during long decents. Bought a 40T but it won't fit...any suggustions? Last race is done so I look forward to some nice recreational winter mayham...and some fiddeling in my workshop...it's time to get that rear suspension remote done...if I only had bought the Team frame!!.. ;D!

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    Now have new wheels! light-bicycle carbons on 28h Goldtec pro comp hubs (48POE, enduro bearings and machined at my LBS no less). 1520g for the pair. Pic below (hopefully)

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    Upgrading the wheels is the best thing you can do on this bike! I have the new Roval Control Carbon 2014 wheelset, and it was a totally different bike. The Reba fork converted to 120mm too
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    I managed to get 110mm out of my Reba by removing the bottom out spacer. It hasn't exploded just yet!

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    I found out my Reba was a 2013 model, so the only way to get more travel, is to change the air shaft (20mm longere) and thats it. No spacer in my fork.

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    "to rival the brain?" The brain is a blind man attempting to dodge punches after they land. Lapierre's EI has their sensor on the fork and so the rear suspension is ready when your rear tire hits the rock/root. Read my review of the XR529EI at Lapierre XR529EI Review
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    Scott's Bikes in Cleveland TN has these bike (EI) available for demo rides. You can read my review of the XR529EI at Lapierre XR529EI Review
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbobaggyshorts View Post
    Don't wanna worry you but I would defo keep get an eye on them "stress marks". Had my XR 529 5 months and my frame cracked right through there. It took my LBS over a month to get the frame replaced under warranty. HotLines had a real problem trying to get hold of one, it seems they're in short supply ATM. In the end I got a XR729 frame set which defo looks the dogs tho. Love the bike, but got reservations about the frames durability now. I always check the frame over after every ride. Interestingly I have noticed that in the area that cracked, on the replacement frame, the carbon seems thicker when you put your finger up the seat tube .

    Well I'm very disappointed to find my xr729 chainstay has a massive crack through it. Just sent photos off to sunset cycles who will hopefully get it sorted. Have been really enjoying the bike. A fabulous ride. Kitted it out with an XX groupset, mavic SLR wheels and an FSA carbon finishing kit. All sat up at home unrideable. 😢.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    Well I'm very disappointed to find my xr729 chainstay has a massive crack through it. Just sent photos off to sunset cycles who will hopefully get it sorted. Have been really enjoying the bike. A fabulous ride. Kitted it out with an XX groupset, mavic SLR wheels and an FSA carbon finishing kit. All sat up at home unrideable. .
    Sorry to hear your chainstay has cracked mate. I'm sure your LBS will get it sorted. Hopefully quicker than it took mine!! You might even get a 2014 frame set as a replacement. Nothing worse than being stuck with an unrideable bike. Been Cardinham woods today and mine's still going strong. I've had to endure a 7 week mountain bike free vacation though, a result of a broken thumb . Been having issues with the rear mech outer cable getting crap in it via the end cap that goes into the BB. Gonna sort that out by running a one piece outer throughout. My Formula RX brakes have been replaced with XTs which IMO is a vast improvement, fitted a SRAM XO type 2 mech and shifter and had my rear Mavic ST hub replaced under warranty. ATM I'm giving Maxxis High Roller 2 a try and really like them, serious grip

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    Thats not so good, I hope you get it fixed quick (like mine was). Since my issue (very early on) I have been good with it, rode the Cape to Cape a few weeks ago and it went brilliantly - not one issue during or after the 4 day race. Have a KS LEV Integra dropper seat now and it performed flawlessly, makes technical stuff and downhill a dream. The cable fits quite well, inside the frame and comes out below BB then up beside swingarm pivot and into seat post - just long enough! I love this bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokisare View Post
    While I think the EI would be nice I also like the simplicity of having a mechanical cable operated system... I think my ideal would be a race bike with the EI because I do sometimes forget to switch and find I've been climbing in fully open or descending in trail.
    This is why this system (the E:i) works so well for beginner riders! There is no thinking about what the proper position for this trail section is. They just ride. I am a little more experienced than the beginner (but not much), and I find myself listening for the whirl sound of the servo-motor as I ride. I smile every time I hear it. I am riding faster and more efficiently than ever, but not getting beat up by a suspension that is too stiff. I don't have enough experience or brain cells sitting idle to remember to adjust my rear shock on the fly. Luckily for me, I no longer need to!
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    My mates have now turned to a "Lappy" and the Ei is a constant source of discussion and amazement. I find that I use the CTD lever (XR Team, only option in Oz 2013 model) all the time, racing or just having fun. It is not a hassle and has become part of riding, but my mates with Ei do not to worry about it at all. With the LEV I also need to 'remember' to drop the seat on downhills - both levers are on the LHS of the bars, so both happen at the same time, down and up - easy. Still loving the bike and ripping up and down hills at speeds that I thought I could never do on my old bike.

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    Well, after a few weeks of long muddy winter rides I fancied a break from the weather, so I sent the importer some pictures of my frame in the areas I was concerned to see what they said:




    Straight away they said to have the shop arrange a replacement, and I could keep the bike until the replacement frame arrived - bonus! It took a couple of weeks for the new frame to come, I didn't ride the bike in that time but stripped it all down and serviced some parts ready, so that I just took the bare frame to the shop and swapped for the new one.



    I've now got a 2014 929 frame, not that there is any difference to my old frame other than colour and this has drillings for the EI system, which are no use to me but I do fancy making a tool box fit the battery mount (similar to Specialized's SWAT system) so I can ditch the saddle bag.

    Luckily I quite like the finish of the new frame and it should match all my components OK. The bare frame weighs almost dead on 1900g (size L, no shock) and interestingly the rear triangle of the replacement (which was still factory packed) was full of water sloshing about, and the only drain hole in the entire triangle is behind one of the hydraulic brake hose mounts where the zip tie threads through. not even in the lowest point in the frame. It was a nightmare to drain!

    Overall I'm happy with the service (including the 929 shock would have been even better!) and I will post a pic of the complete bike when built.

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    That's great how quickly you've had your problem dealt with... Ive just brought my XR back to the shop I bought it in.. (cracked and stress marks developing) I hope they manage to get a quick turn around on my frame.
    My EI shock has also developed an intermittent problem, needing to remove the headunit and reconnect it for the shock system to work.. However I do love the system, and think its not just for newbies or people who forget the manual lockout etc.. It fine tunes while you ride which, to my knowledge, no other shock system offers. Its been a great tool throughout the race season and very easy to set up.. Anyone considering it should take the chance... you wont regret it!

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    Well I got some great news today.. Ill have my 2013 XR-729 replacement, a 2014 XR-929 frame built up on Saturday. And ill have my replacement EI-shock system fitted aswell... All done in a week.
    Extremely pleased!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice2ie View Post
    Well I got some great news today.. Ill have my 2013 XR-729 replacement, a 2014 XR-929 frame built up on Saturday. And ill have my replacement EI-shock system fitted aswell... All done in a week.
    Extremely pleased!!
    Nice one mate, bagging a 2014 frame's a right result. Every cloud has a silver lining !!!

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    Well here it is... All built up on the 2014 XR929 frame along with the new EI system fitted..
    The shop was also good enough to mod. the bottom cable run so a full length outer could be installed, so hopefully no more rough gearing!
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    Sweeeeet! Notice you have Ron on the front and Ralph on the back - exact opposite to what I run on my XR Team. I put Ralph on the front to get a bit more rubber on my (mostly) dry, hard packed tracks. Any reason for you being the other way around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCaat View Post
    Sweeeeet! Notice you have Ron on the front and Ralph on the back - exact opposite to what I run on my XR Team. I put Ralph on the front to get a bit more rubber on my (mostly) dry, hard packed tracks. Any reason for you being the other way around?
    cheers... 😉. Ralph is more of a block thread so I prefer it on the rear for a more solid feel, and Ron's thread is more diamond cut so has a more directional thread pattern helping reduce rolling resistance and side blocks for cornering grip. I love the set-up. Used it most of last year.

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    Excellent feedback, I'll check it out and next tyre change maybe give it a go. I also saw the new "Thunder Burt" tyres, might be good for racing on the right (dry) day and really light (although I'll probably wait for a snakeskin version). Love the 2014 frame BTW, looks fantastic especially with the different wheels. Total weight must be around 10-11kg? I must try to get a photo of mine up, I saw a few Lappys at the Cape to Cape in WA a few weeks ago, they seem to be getting a little more popular. Enjoy!!!

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    Yeah I really like the new frame. The steerer tube is 5mm longer.
    It's exactly 21.9 pounds so just under 10kg. Pretty good I think.

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    Here's some pics of my rebuilt XR with the new 929 frame. Also had to warranty the rear mech, changed to XT brakes (never liked the Formula RXs) and did the BB/headset bearings etc too. Click on the pic for the original size images.







    Weighs in slightly lighter than the old one somehow (pretty sure the frames were identical, must just be the lack of mud!



    My new rigid SS weighs 27lbs on the same scales

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    Awesome..

    Looks great.. Lapierre said a medium 2014 XR frame on average weighs 120grams lighter!

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    Must be all the random holes they drilled for the EI stuff

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    hi i was just wondering how you are getting on with the single speed chain ring? has the chain stayed on ok or dose it drop on the occasion? just because i am currently going to single speed and don't have a clutch on my rear mech and cant see any form of compatible chain guide for the XR frame.

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    Hi Mike, I have XX1 (and associated single front chain ring) and have been using it since September. I have not had the chain come off once. Not sure how using similar may perform as a SS, all I can say is that as 11 speed, I love it!!!

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    Well 7 months have passed since Hot Lines replaced my cracked 529 frame with a lovely stealth black 729 one and its bad news again !! The bike's back at my LBS. The frame has developed some nasty looking stress marks just above the BB and a big crack below the upper eyelet on the suspension pivot has appeared !! Fingers crossed I won't be XRless too long

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    Are the 2014 frames any stronger , less chance of cracking ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonelli View Post
    Are the 2014 frames any stronger , less chance of cracking ?
    Dunno about the 2014 frames being any stronger, but I defo read somewhere that Lapierre were using a different carbon layup on this years XR frames !!

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    Good news after only two weeks I've been given a 2014 729 frame as a replacement Gotta say I prefer the look of this years frames. Fingers crossed it's third time lucky!!!!Lapierre an their 29er FS-photo.jpg.
    Just a pity the weather's so shit ATM

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    Ok XR529 and above fans, great to see that there is a community out there liking the bikes. Had mine for a year now and couldn't bring myself to do the zip tie dropper post route although the rocket ron factory fit tyres had to go. Nobly Nics are far better for the muddy rough stuff.

    Still no cracks in the frame (XL size with 100kg rider) and am very surprised at the absolute kicking the bike is taking and it still comes back for more.

    Lost the metal bash tab by the front ring the other week - any ideas on what to replace it with?

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    Any advice on removing and installing brake hose through the frame on the XR729.
    Have been bleeding my Formulas one the bike but thinking next time removing them using the snap lock thingy on the formula brake hoses to do next brake bleed off the bike.

    Also have had troubles with the computer connections on the Ei not connecting perfectly with the head unit since month one (brought bike in NZ but now living in Perth, but visiting NZ next month). Just means speedo does not work but ei still works fine, I just cannot see what shock setting is displayed unless to turn the computer 1mm clockwise to get the pin connections lining up correctly which they do for about 30 seconds of riding before the computer rattles anti-clockwise 1mm and the computer disconects again.

    Excellent bike otherwise and my partner just pick up an unused second hand XR527 2013 for a great price.
    Actually on her XR527 the rear thru axle has a spacing washer on the outside of the thru axle next the axle leaver. I do not have that on my XR729. It seems strangle and a bad design as the washer can be very easily lost when removing the rear wheel and the wheel is loose int eh frame without. Is this typical on the XR527 2013 or have Lapierre have poor frame tolerance and add spacing in when frames do nto line up perfectly?
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    Hi, just have a quick question about sizes. I am 175cm tall and normally ride a medium. Would this be the same for this bike, or could I get away with a small?

    How tall are you and what size do you ride?

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    Re: Cracked Frame
    I have a Lapierre XR 529 2013 the same as Phil S and I now have the cracking around the shock mount after only about 50km of light trail. Noticed the frame creaking under load and took it back to the shop. Hoping for a reasonable outcome. I'll let you know how I get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev.M View Post
    Re: Cracked Frame
    I have a Lapierre XR 529 2013 the same as Phil S and I now have the cracking around the shock mount after only about 50km of light trail. Noticed the frame creaking under load and took it back to the shop. Hoping for a reasonable outcome. I'll let you know how I get on.
    Bad news about your frame cracking so quickly. No doubt you'll get a 2014 frame set as a replacement. Haven't heard any or seen any negative comments about the 2014 frames, mine's holding up fine. Can't comment on everyone else's 2014 frames, but I'm sure if anyone had had any issues they'd have cropped up on this thread. Hopefully Lapierre have got the frames sorted out now.

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    Any long term reviews of the durability and performance of the EI system?

    I'm keen to buy a Lapierre with EI, but only if I can trust the system. Have seem one bad review on an australian forum, just wondering if its an isolated case
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    Am about to pull the trigger on buying an XR529ei. Some good deals on at the moment.

    Hopefully the ei system isn't too problematic, have heard of a few issues with it. Would be nice to hear from people who've had it a while, and its still working!
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    The first run of head units had posts that were too short. They were replaced at no cost to the owners by Lapierre. This unit did not affect the e:i performance. My brother's e:i (729) was sucking the battery dry pretty quickly. Lapierre sent him a new harness. Problem solved. These are the only two issues I have personally seen, and I love my 529e:i! No regrets!
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    Lapierre an their 29er FS

    Loving my 14' 729 e:i but for some reason one of the suspension linkage bolts fell out while riding. I'm getting a replacement. Check that your bolts are tight! Lapierre told me that my bike was the first case. Here is a pic of my beloved one.


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    Linkage bolts do that on all brands at some time. I always check them before riding.
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    How long have you had them guys?

    I've wanted to try this bike, ever since I first heard about the EI. As a previous Epic owner, this system seems to fix all the traits of the brain that I didn't like.

    Just a bit nervous, since I have read of a few issues of the EI failing.
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    My wife and I got our XRs in September of 2013. No issues so far. We did swap our head units (displays) when the replacements came in, but had not experienced any problems with the original either.
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    Have had my XR729ei for 18 months and still going well. I use during Adventure Racing events where there is a lot of bike carry, assembly and disassembly and throwing the bike in a small bike box where there is good chance to damage cables and so far no issues with the system. PLease note there are a few more cables on the front of the bike to worry about. The system does what it meant to. The battery lasts for a long time (a month of summer riding, a lot less during winter with coldness affect battery life) and you can change the shock setting manually with a 2mm hex tool if the battery goes flat.

    The shock does not fully lock out hard when in lock mode. There is still some sag when locked out which may be equal to the Epic lock mode.

    The only problem I have had is in the Formula brakes which I do not like but they still work ok but not fantastic and they are not the easiest to bleed.

    Also locktite the retaining screw in the rear axle ratining nut. There is a little 3mm screw in the frame which come out if not locktite in.

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    Thanks for the replies, good to hear. Seems hard to find any long term reviews anywhere.
    Nothing here yet:
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    And I've read of a few people having issues with the EI system.

    Anyway, I ordered an XR529ei, which I'll be upgrading with LB carbon wheels on Chris king hubs, and converting to 1 x 10. Hopefully it goes better than the Jet RDO it'll be replacing.
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    Lapierre an their 29er FS

    Ive had mine for 3 months and logged almost 1,000 miles. Rockshox sid, x01 and LB wheels with hope hubs and bike is super fun to ride! I just finished a 100k race last saturday in Ensenada and it worked flawlessly

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    Took delivery of my XR529ei last night.

    As stock it seems fairly heavy, and the supplied 2" Rocket Rons look way narrow.
    Hopefully most of the weight is in the wheels which I'll be selling.
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    Wow, this bike rocks. Its like the holy grail of rear suspension.

    This is what I've been wanting in a bike for the last 20 years. Efficient and firm on the climbs, and open like a duel suspension bike should be on the downs, without having to worry about any lockout levers. Awesome!

    I had one niggle in that the fork sensor wasn't picking up the wheel magnet too well. A trail fix had me put a small twig behind the magnet to push it in a bit closer. I'll put some more rubber behind the sensor as a more permanent fix.

    Just wondering what sensitivity everyone else uses on the Auto setting? I started at 4, thinking that when I had an Epic I ran it a few clicks from locked out, obviously the EI is completely different!
    I then changed it to setting 1, and it was perfect. Never found that it activated when I didn't want it to, so I can't really see the need for the other settings.

    Also does everyone ride with the computer attached? I've read that it doesn't need it. I'd rather leave it off and use my Garmin instead.

    It still feels a bit heavy, as I had to run the stock rear wheel. I'm at about 11.5 KG now. Hoping to get it under 11 KG when I get a thru axle for my Chris King hub, and lose the tube on the rear wheel too. I also will replace the stock post with a carbon one. After that I'll be struggling to shed any more weight.

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    Just wondering what shock pressure people are running?

    I initially had mine at 145psi - which was great going down, but a bit too relaxed for climbing (prob over 30% sag - 75kg 165lb). I was playing around with pressures over the weekend and went from 155 to 170psi, which still seemed to be giving a fair amount of sag >25%, but it did feel a lot better climbing - position wise.

    I'm not sure I'm getting full travel with this - though it feels fine, whereas the the fork (Reba RL) goes through its travel very easily - as all my other RS forks do, no matter how much pressure I put in.
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    Anyone know if there are any deals out there on these? I am interested in getting one.

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    In Australia there are. I'd assume since the 2015 models are out with a better computer arrangement, that there should be deals on 2014 models, wherever you are.
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    I'm in the US, there are so few Lapierre dealers that there really don't seem to be any deals on 2014 bikes.

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    Frame design issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by xcbarny View Post
    Thanks for the replies, good to hear. Seems hard to find any long term reviews anywhere.
    Nothing here yet:
    LaPierre XR 29 29er Full Suspension Reviews - Mtbr.com
    And I've read of a few people having issues with the EI system.

    Anyway, I ordered an XR529ei, which I'll be upgrading with LB carbon wheels on Chris king hubs, and converting to 1 x 10. Hopefully it goes better than the Jet RDO it'll be replacing.
    As far as long-term reviews go: I had an XR 529, bought early 2013 and recently changed.

    In that time I had a couple of issues with bits of the EI loom needing replacing – meaning a few weeks riding it in manual mode. The main connection box is down near the BB, which due to the design of the rear shock cradle, gets plenty of water coming in (it will drain away if the drain hole is cleared). That didn't help.

    The main issue I had was cracked frames. I went through 3 frames, that all cracked in the same area: around the rear shock cradle. I'm not a heavy rider, and I live in a flat xc type terrain area, so it never had a hard existence.

    In the end I my LBS got me a refund and I went for an Epic.

    FWIW I thought it was a fabulous bike, loved riding it. When the EI works it's brilliant also. BUT, I think (and LBS agreed) there's a fundamental design flaw with the cradle. It's pretty thick carbon in that area, but I don't think it can handle the simultaneous stress loads of rider through seat tube AND the rear end pushing through it.

    Shame. It's basically the same design for 2015 (the last frame was a 2015 729 which lasted 6 weeks), but I think they'll have to rethink at some point.

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    Has anyone had any issues with their battery holding charge?

    I used to be able to get 3 - 4 2hr rides in, and the battery would still have more than half its power. Now its drained by the second ride.
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    Had my XR 529 for 3 years now and itīs a dream. NOTHING to complain over...have tried many other bike in the same segment ...Trek, Specialized, Scott...still convinced that this is one of the best bike. Done some changes from year 1: AM Race 29 wheels, Singel in front and a 42 cog on the rear...Magic Marys for winter (TL) and Thunder Burt during racing season.
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    Hi everyone, need some help/advice…

    The front fork on a XR729 ei (Reba RL), can I 'upgrade' the fork and just transfer the zip tied magnet over or is there internal ei related voodoo going on that means it isn't so easy?

    Thanks in advance

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    Its a standard fork, so just move your sensor to the new fork.
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    Thanks Barny

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    Quote Originally Posted by trener1 View Post
    Anyone know if there are any deals out there on these? I am interested in getting one.
    I just got a great deal in Australia Melbourne for a Lapierre 729 2015 model. Paid $5200. There are 929 ei 2014 models going for $4799 at the moment through the following link Bikes for Sale | Bike and Cycling Shops - BikeExchange.com.au

    Out on my bike for the first time tomorrow so will let you know how I go although I dont think the bike shop set the sag up correctly so a bit annoyed.

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    Let us know how you get on. It would have been a tough choice between the '14 929 and the '15 729.

    I think the computer looks much better on the '15 models. I'm having a few issues with the display on mine connecting, like others have, but the bike is still working fine. I'm hoping they'll upgrade me to the '15 computer as a new display unit didn't fix the issue.
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    I just noticed that the 2015 models are coming with 51mm offset forks:
    Lapierre Bicycles - XR 729

    Does anyone know what offset forks were on the 2014 models?
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