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    Krampus with Front Suspension!

    The Surly Blog clearly shows pictures of the Krampus with a Fox fork. I'd really like to see pictures of how much clearance there is. The blog indicates that they were on the way to Interbike, so somebody must have seen something. Anyone out there know anything about this? If you can run a Fox fork with the Knard tire and Rabbit Hole rim, that changes everything.

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    Well it looks from that blog like they just baaaaaarely fit. You can always run a Lefty fork, that would work fo sho'
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Well it looks from that blog like they just baaaaaarely fit. You can always run a Lefty fork, that would work fo sho'
    If the Lefty has enough lateral clearance. The fat bike guys are using Leftys with custom clamps for more offset
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    If the Lefty has enough lateral clearance. The fat bike guys are using Leftys with custom clamps for more offset
    Oops yeah I forgot that they were using those Mendon clamps, that's what I meant.
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    A Lefty with custom clamps would be too danged expensive for me. I sent an e-mail to Surly to ask them to do a follow-up blog post about the fork situation. A close up shot of the clearance would be really informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    The Surly Blog clearly shows pictures of the Krampus with a Fox fork. I'd really like to see pictures of how much clearance there is. The blog indicates that they were on the way to Interbike, so somebody must have seen something. Anyone out there know anything about this? If you can run a Fox fork with the Knard tire and Rabbit Hole rim, that changes everything.
    I saw a Krampus with a fox fork at Copper Harbor. I couldn't believe my eyes, but there it was. I got talking to the guy. The tire fits just barely, but it fits!

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    The RH/K combo will fit in either of the Fox forks, barely, with zero clearance for mud or even much tire runout. If I really wanted this to work I'd do a teeny bit of dremeling of the arch and call it good.

    Only pic I took of the RH/K in a Fox 32:

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    Didn't fit in a Revelation.

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    Subscribed. Waiting for my frame and rims/tires. Looks like I may need to source a fork now also...

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    A Maverick fork should work without mods and plenty of clearance...just have to come up with one.

    Or if you can wait...this X-Fusion?
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    Does anyone know what the revised arch on the new Fox forks does to the clearance?

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    Them boys at Surly go to all that effort to offer you 3 inches of cush in 29er goodness and you want a suspension fork? They be rollin' an you be hating.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifraf View Post
    Them boys at Surly go to all that effort to offer you 3 inches of cush in 29er goodness and you want a suspension fork? They be rollin' an you be hating.......
    We'll wait for you at the bottom :-P

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    I would like to see if it fits a Niner Carbon fork

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    I'd have to concur with RifRaf on this one, most definitely belongs on a rigid As for waiting at the bottom, I'd love to see you riding with someone who only rides rigid on a pair of these tyres, fairly sure they'd prob be waiting on you

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    Them boys at Surly go to all that effort to offer you 3 inches of cush in 29er goodness and you want a suspension fork? They be rollin' an you be hating.......
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    I dunno, I've been running my gazzaloddis in my 36 for a good bit.
    I was all worried about the clearance for awhile and it's never been a problem.
    If anything's gotten stuck in there I guess it didn't stay stuck for long.

    Also: I'd hazard a guess that the gazzi's tread would "bring" a lot more trail detritus up to the arch that those short profile knobs on the knards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    I'd have to concur with RifRaf on this one, most definitely belongs on a rigid As for waiting at the bottom, I'd love to see you riding with someone who only rides rigid on a pair of these tyres, fairly sure they'd prob be waiting on you
    I paid my dues on fully-rigid bikes for 10 years. There's no comparing the downhill speeds between rigid and suspended, at least on the terrain around here.

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    I would give you suspended being faster on fast, rough DHs, but on slow, rough/techy DHs I wouldn't wager either way.
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    I paid my dues on fully-rigid bikes for 10 years. There's no comparing the downhill speeds between rigid and suspended, at least on the terrain around here.
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    Really? Can you confirm it would fit in the manitou tower 29 expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifraf View Post
    Them boys at Surly go to all that effort to offer you 3 inches of cush in 29er goodness and you want a suspension fork? They be rollin' an you be hating...
    ummmm...the pics of the bikes with sussy forks are on the Surly site being ridden by the Surly boys. I think they approve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Whisperer View Post
    A Maverick fork should work without mods and plenty of clearance...just have to come up with one.
    Yea I bet they will work great.

    DUC32 about 90mm of lateral clearance do to the taper legs, will tons of vertical clearance


    CS32 about 98mm of lateral clearance, but not much more vertical clearance than a 26" fat tire..

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    Got a f29 fox 100 qr fork running on my krampus. Just put it on yesterday at the shop and got a aftetnoon ride on it. No rubbing yet did get some rocks that get stuck for a sec but they came out fast. It did put the bike over 30lb. But dang was it worth it this thing rips now and is so much better on the wrist. I will post a pic from the ride I do today. Cheers

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    Just beware...



    Take all the air out of the fork and watch the crown hit the tire.

    Just my attempt at a PSA, be mindful of the catastrophic possibilities.

    That being said, I'll still ride it. Just with a touch more air pressure than normal. At least until I feel confident enough that I won't lose my teeth. Another guy around here actually bottomed the crown out on the tire while riding; lots of noise but no immediate stop or damage.

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    I have never really bottomed a fork out that far. heres a few pics. with blunt 35s not rabbit hole tires.
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    Anyone have a pic of a Loop mounted?
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    Ive got The Fox Float 32 and theres a heap of clearance of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossyman34 View Post
    Ive got The Fox Float 32 and theres a heap of clearance of that
    Any pics posted? Are you running Rabbit Hole's?
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    Knard on a Stans Flow in a RS Reba RLT. Tight, but it rolled fine.



    I'm happy with my Krampus rigid so I'm not going to mess with the Reba. I was just curious.
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    Anyone else running suspension on theirs? Is the Krampus corrected for 100mm fork or 120mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Is the Krampus corrected for 100mm fork or 120mm?
    120mm

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    Riding mine at 100mm, likely will try it with 120mm also.



    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    Anyone else running suspension on theirs? Is the Krampus corrected for 100mm fork or 120mm?

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    some good stuff in here, how about 29r squish frames that will accept the RH/Knard combo??
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    some good stuff in here, how about 29r squish frames that will accept the RH/Knard combo??
    That is a short list:

    None!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    That is a short list:

    None!
    I had a None once and it proved to be a beast....i kid i kid. perhaps a 35mm/3.0 knard then?
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    Some have said that the Fox 15mm thru axle forks have more clearance than a Fox QR fork, can anyone confirm this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleanutz View Post
    Riding mine at 100mm, likely will try it with 120mm also.
    how goes the 120mm setup?? could you be kind enough to get straight on pics of the bridge/tube area for clearance sake?? BTW which Fox is this ?
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    Just in case any of you are wondering if the 2014 Rockshox Pike will fit.
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    Pic of crown and bridge clearance of a 2014 Fox 34. Pressure is out and fork bottomed. Plenty of clearance. The White Brothers Loop had maybe a little more but was a little tighter around the bridge.
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    the pike is a bit snug for my taste, however its in there. I sent Fox an email with regard to 3.0 tire fitment on 35 or 50mm rims using their forks and received a reply stating none of them would fit, not even the 40.
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    I haven't found a fork manufacturer yet that recommends using one but it doesn't seem to stop anybody. Seems like most guys I know use the Fox 34 including most of the guys at Surly from what I've heard. I'm just glad it clears the crown. Quite bummed though that it won't fit the Pike. By the way my pics were taken with a Knard on the Rabbit Hole rim.
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    This is a 2013 Fox 32. Knard is on a Blunt 35 at ~20psi. Plenty.

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    Amazing how much bigger the tire is on a 50mm.
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    Krampus with Front Suspension!

    The Norwegian Surly importer fatbikes.no has a Krampus with a Lefty.




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    Krampus with Front Suspension!

    Krampus with Front Suspension!-imageuploadedbytapatalk1372430886.142034.jpg trying again...from their facebook pages.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    This is a 2013 Fox 32. Knard is on a Blunt 35 at ~20psi. Plenty.

    Mike do you have pics of the entire wheel showing the tire/rim area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post


    Knard on a Stans Flow in a RS Reba RLT. Tight, but it rolled fine.



    I'm happy with my Krampus rigid so I'm not going to mess with the Reba. I was just curious.


    Just an update. I got some Rabbit Holes for my Krampus and decided to test fit the RS Reba again. The same tire on the RH's has light contact at top and sides now. So it won't work.

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    To all who have posted comparisons with the Knard on wide rims like the Rabbit Hole and then narrow rims like the Blunt 35s, thanks, really is an eyes opener just what difference the rim makes in a tyres profile and volume. I had planned on just getting some Blunt35s to lace up for the rigid and run the knard upfront, but after seeing the images not sure if I will anymore and instead go for something wider like the RHs.
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    Haven't bumped it up to 120mm yet, but likely this summer. I'll post up when I do, likely a week or two.

    Here are a few pics of the crown/tire.







    Fork is a Float 29 RL, not a FIT fork. Not sure of the year though...I've ridden it quite hard with the Knard/Rabbit Hole combo on my Krampus, no contact between tire and crown at all. Quite a nice addition to the ride quality!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot View Post
    Amazing how much bigger the tire is on a 50mm.
    Facetious?

    There's very little difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    To all who have posted comparisons with the Knard on wide rims like the Rabbit Hole and then narrow rims like the Blunt 35s, thanks, really is an eye opener just what difference the rim makes in a tyres profile and volume.
    agreed completely.

    Quote Originally Posted by fleanutz View Post
    Haven't bumped it up to 120mm yet, but likely this summer. I'll post up when I do, likely a week or two.

    Here are a few pics of the crown/tire.







    Fork is a Float 29 RL, not a FIT fork. Not sure of the year though...I've ridden it quite hard with the Knard/Rabbit Hole combo on my Krampus, no contact between tire and crown at all. Quite a nice addition to the ride quality!
    muchas gracias fleanutz. are you able to tune the natural bounce aspect out of the knard with fork adjustments?
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    Now to find a generous modern day frameset that will accept a knard/blunt 35mm setup being the tricky part....bueller??
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