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    Krampus with Front Suspension!

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    Would be keen to see some photographs of the MRP Stage shown with a Rabbit Hole/Knard for visual reference. As AOK stated earlier, there is 3mm-5mm clearance with his setup. This does not seem like much clearance to me for real world all conditions trails. A MRP Stage in the UK costs circa $1150
    I posted some pics here: MRP Stage

    Not rabbit holes, but Nextie jungle fox rims with Knards in the photos. I recently switched to the innova 29+ tire up front which is marginally narrower so I have a little more clearance on the sidewalls now. ( no issues with clearance on the Knards, I just wanted a knobbier tire).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve5S View Post
    Would be keen to see some photographs of the MRP Stage shown with a Rabbit Hole/Knard for visual reference. As AOK stated earlier, there is 3mm-5mm clearance with his setup. This does not seem like much clearance to me for real world all conditions trails. A MRP Stage in the UK costs circa $1150
    Not my bike but there are some pics of Stage + Knard linked here as well.
    MRP Stage fork 29+ ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoloco View Post
    Formula 35 29er fork with 50mm wide carbon rim and a bontrager chupacabra 29x3"
    sweet!
    Once you go slack, you never go back!

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    Krampus with Front Suspension!-foxfork.jpg

    Will this fork work?

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    AOK thanks for the links, sadly I still don't believe the Stage will give sufficient arch clearance for my needs
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    I guess Ill see how recovery progresses and take advice from my surgeon. May consider a carbon rigid fork or trade the Krampus for something else

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    Found a 100mm fox put my chronicle and hugo setup on. Not much clearance. Has anyone endoed from a rock rolling up and jamming the cross member?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdog100 View Post
    Found a 100mm fox put my chronicle and hugo setup on. Not much clearance. Has anyone endoed from a rock rolling up and jamming the cross member?
    If I were to place a bet on that happening, versus a stick going through your spokes and causing an endo, my money is on the stick.

    If the clearance is tight, and by tight I'm talking like what you see in the post from Steve55 above yours, whets going to slow you down is mud caking to the tire. It won't send you over the bars, but it will make for a frustrating ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdog100 View Post
    Found a 100mm fox put my chronicle and hugo setup on. Not much clearance. Has anyone endoed from a rock rolling up and jamming the cross member?


    Fox Float 34 - 130mm...15 mins with a dremel tool.

    There is lots of material there so you can create more clearance if you want.



    If Fox/RS come out with a real 29+ fork I'll probably buy one, but these Floats are out there and available cheap.



    ^^^ stock tire clearance without removing any material.
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    hi. currently considering putting a 120mm pike on my krampus. do i want the 51mm offset version or the 44mm offset version. on the internet, the 51mm seems more popular. what is the difference? my guess is the 51mm makes it a bit more slack out, (like a DH bike) versus the 44mm being more responsive/nimble (like an XC race bike) but what do i know.

    your help is seriously appreciated. thank you.

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    Go 51. The longer the travel , the more offset you want. It will improve the handling. Make sure you will have clearance. Rabbit holes won't work with Pike.

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    FWIW, the Bontrager Chupacabra on a Hugo rim rubs the bridge on a 2013 Fox Float 32 100mm.
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    Would it be possible to move this thread to the 27.5+ / 29+ forum...?
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    Krampus with Front Suspension!

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    More MRP Stage

    MRP Stage 130 with some light dremel work to round the sharp edge at the bottom of the arch. The Maxxis Chronicle fits with 4-5mm of clearance. Decided I wasn't comfortable with the clearance on the Chronicle and got a Surly Dirt Wizard. As you can see the DW has plenty of clearance and is an excellent front tire.

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    I finally got my Mutant Dirty!Krampus with Front Suspension!-mutant1.jpg

    First ride was quite good. The picture shows the seat being lowered a bit for the downhill back to my car.

    I do wish the front end was a bit lower. Even with the stem reversed and no spacers underneath, my hands a bit higher than I would like them. Of course, I do have a 140mm travel fork on there........

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    That headtube is extra long - what size is your mutant?

    My wifes small appears to be half the length

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankpuller View Post
    That headtube is extra long - what size is your mutant?

    My wifes small appears to be half the length
    My frame is a large, and yes, it is a very long head tube. I may drop the fork to 120 mm

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    Here's my little mod of 2013 Fox 32 CTD fork to prevent a tire touching a crown.

    Stock travel was 120mm, I increased it to around 140 by putting the pin in left chamber to the top position (the rod inside has 110, 120 and ~140mm positions).

    Then I inserted ~75mm piece of water hose (~27mm OD, bought in a DIY store in garden dept.) into air chamber.
    The hose serves two purposes:
    1. It limits max compression travel by 17-18mm. So I have a real 120mm travel.
    1. It acts a air volume spacer and alters compression curve.

    The plastic material is flexible but still doesn't change its length much at full compression. Tried w/o air.

    Conclusion: this fork was never better before. Everything is better. The only downside is that the 'C' mode is 'locking' slightly less then before. Probably because of a lower pressure.

    After a 75km ride with some hard sections the travel was used to up to 100-110mm. I.e. the hose haven't been used as a bumper.

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    Good morning! My first post on MTBR...

    I am looking for front suspension options for my green Krampus. Sufficient tire clearance is a must - lots of mud here in fall and spring.

    The Manitou Magnum Pro 29+ 100mm has an AC height of 530mm. Taking 20% sag into account this will still raise the front by 25mm, correct? I wonder if this would turn the Krampus into a Chopper and ruin the perfect handling?! I don't understand why the Krampus is said to be "suspension corrected for 120mm"?! Or is this valid for the new, black model with MDS dropouts? What are your thoughts and experiences regarding AC of a suspension fork?

    Thanks!
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    Having a2c close is semi important if you are sensitive to handling changes (which some are not, and yes, going too long is also potentially bad for the frame).

    But remember, once you sag in, you change your HTA by at least a degree, ( as sag is generally at least 20 mm).

    Add to that the ever changing nature of a suspension fork, and your a2c is never in the same spot whilst riding.

    Just food for thought.

    As for forks? Lefty is going to have clearance in spades for mud, better so than any fork with an arch over the tire......
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    I put a 130mm Fox Float on my Krampus. It's significantly slacker with the suspension fork on it. It rides great. No issues at all.

    A2C is ~545mm sagged to 25% = 513mm so it's ~30mm taller than the stock fork.

    My other MTBs have HTA's of 66 and 67 deg so the Krampus seems just fine at around 68.5 deg.
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    Thanks, guys! I guess I am one of these sensitive guys. Upgraded my Karate Monkey with a 100mm Reba and didn't like it at all. Traveled the Reba to 80mm - fantastic ride.

    I am currently looking at the German:A Flame. Definitely wide enough. A2C only 519mm. Overall wheel diameter might be am issue - will call the company next week and discuss the details.

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    I've now upgraded from the barely fitting Fox Float 32 to a Manitou Magnum:





    Lots and lots of clearance, did need to rebuild the front wheel for a 110mm Boost hub though.

    I should note that I changed to the Chronicles before the fork change and found there was a actually little more clearance with them than with the Knards - not sure if the Chornicles are actually smaller or if the old Knards had stretched a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba13 View Post
    MRP Stage 130 with some light dremel work to round the sharp edge at the bottom of the arch. The Maxxis Chronicle fits with 4-5mm of clearance.
    The clearance looks exactly like Fox 32. However the Stage fork is advertised as a 29+ fork.
    What pressure do you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.C View Post
    I've now upgraded from the barely fitting Fox Float 32 to a Manitou Magnum:





    Lots and lots of clearance, did need to rebuild the front wheel for a 110mm Boost hub though.

    I should note that I changed to the Chronicles before the fork change and found there was a actually little more clearance with them than with the Knards - not sure if the Chornicles are actually smaller or if the old Knards had stretched a bit.
    100mm Magnum? Looks good!

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    any other pics of dirt wizards in sus forks?

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    Dirt Wizard 29x3.0 in a RS Reba

    I just hope it won't stretch to much but no problems the first 5 rides.Krampus with Front Suspension!-dirtwizardreba.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjaakoo View Post
    I just hope it won't stretch to much but no problems the first 5 rides.Click image for larger version. 

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    30mm internal Light-Bicycle carbon rim @1.14bar/16.6PSI
    Knobs 72 mm , casing 64 mm

    In my RS Reba: 3mm space at the knobs on the side, 4mm at the top

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    DW on 50mm Nextie JF rims in a 2016 Fox 34/130 Float.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    DW on 50mm Nextie JF rims in a 2016 Fox 34/130 Float.
    You've got clearance for days!
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    ffreakin awesome! thats what im lookin for. not alittle guy. plus 45 yo looking to soften the blow in the heavy stuff. plus i keep running out of knards. (grip)

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    was pretty excited about the reba but might be tight with rabbits

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.C View Post
    I've now upgraded from the barely fitting Fox Float 32 to a Manitou Magnum:





    Lots and lots of clearance, did need to rebuild the front wheel for a 110mm Boost hub though.

    I should note that I changed to the Chronicles before the fork change and found there was a actually little more clearance with them than with the Knards - not sure if the Chornicles are actually smaller or if the old Knards had stretched a bit.
    you could do us a favour and measure the height from the ground to the top of your head tube? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    you could do us a favour and measure the height from the ground to the top of your head tube? thanks
    As close I can determine is appears to be about 96cm (38 inches).

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    cheers

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    Oh I should note, its a small frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    DW on 50mm Nextie JF rims in a 2016 Fox 34/130 Float.
    Awesome, and this is a non Boost fork, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newportl View Post
    Awesome, and this is a non Boost fork, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Right.
    Sorry if this a stupid question since we are in the 29er forum, but is that the regular Fox 29er fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcatnau View Post
    Sorry if this a stupid question since we are in the 29er forum, but is that the regular Fox 29er fork?
    Yes, 2016 Fox 34/130mm 29er. The Dirt Wizard will fit in most previous year models if not all Fox 29 forks.
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    Hello,
    This thread has been awesome for my inquiries of krampus front suspension.
    I'm now deciding between the 100mm and 120mm fox.
    My question is which one will leave the geometry closest to stock. I love the climbing ability of my krampus and do not want to lose that.
    So 100mm or 120mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleanutz View Post
    Riding mine at 100mm, likely will try it with 120mm also.

    I see this is an old post, but looks like you have the 100mm and planned on trying the 120mm. Any info on which is best to maintain the krampus' stellar climbing

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    When we test fit multiple forks at the shop the Fox 34 looked to be the best in the clearance category. Slightly better than the 32.

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    Nice. Thats good to know.
    I'm mostly curious if the 120mm will raise the front of the bike more than I'd like it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmahaff View Post
    I see this is an old post, but looks like you have the 100mm and planned on trying the 120mm. Any info on which is best to maintain the krampus' stellar climbing
    Go 120.

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    I ordered the FOX 120mm. I'm pretty excited. I'm gonna go dirt wizard up front and will post some pics.
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    Does anyone know if the new 2016 Fox Float 34 (part# 910-01-924) would fit on the Krampus and clear Chronicles on Dually rims? Seriously looking for suspension, but don't want to build another wheel to accommodate a boost 110mm interface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.C View Post
    I've now upgraded from the barely fitting Fox Float 32 to a Manitou Magnum:





    Lots and lots of clearance, did need to rebuild the front wheel for a 110mm Boost hub though.

    I should note that I changed to the Chronicles before the fork change and found there was a actually little more clearance with them than with the Knards - not sure if the Chornicles are actually smaller or if the old Knards had stretched a bit.
    Can you tell me if the crown on the Magnum clears the Krampus downtube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulsepro View Post
    Can you tell me if the crown on the Magnum clears the Krampus downtube?
    Yeah it clears it on my frame (small).

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    Interesting thread. Thanks for the info so far.

    Has anybody tried the Fox 34 (2016) with the Chupacabra or the Knard on a Stan's Hugo or WTB Scraper rim (about 50 mm)? Heard that although the DW is 3.0 it turns out to be a little smaller than a Chupa or Knard.

    Getting a steel 29+ bike (custom frame/Krampus style). Frame will be designed around 120 mm. suspension. Was thinking about the Magnum but a Fox would be even better.

    Thanks
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    Where did you put chase the Manitou Magnum?
    And is that 1 1/8 steer tube?

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    why is this not in 29+?
    Rigid SS 29er
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    "Fully rigid" isn't a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    why is this not in 29+?
    Probably because the subcategory didn't exist when the thread was created.

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    Hello, what size is the Dirt Wizard? Is it the 29plus version? Im wondering if a knard 29plus will fit in this fork. It looks like the Knard casing may be wider. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the old fart View Post
    Interesting thread. Thanks for the info so far.

    Has anybody tried the Fox 34 (2016) with the Chupacabra or the Knard on a Stan's Hugo or WTB Scraper rim (about 50 mm)? Heard that although the DW is 3.0 it turns out to be a little smaller than a Chupa or Knard.

    Getting a steel 29+ bike (custom frame/Krampus style). Frame will be designed around 120 mm. suspension. Was thinking about the Magnum but a Fox would be even better.

    Thanks
    I'm also curious about this. Anyone use a non-boosted fork with a Chupa?

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    Current list 29+ Krampus reasonable?

    15mm 100
    Fox 34 non boost DW fits 120
    Lefty's 100/120
    Bluto 80/100/120
    Carver 120
    MRP Stage 120
    RS1 100/120
    Boost 15mm 110:
    Fox 34 27.5+ 110(custom only)/120/130
    Manitou Magnum Pro 100/110(stache OEM)/120
    Manitou Machete 120
    Pike 27.5+ 120
    Yari 27.5+ 120
    Reba 27.5+ 100/120
    SID 27.5? 100
    Lauf AC 485 60 2.8?
    Wren Sports 120

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    I am a Clydesdale I ride a L. Mix of all Mt. and XC. Riding a 2011 Fox 32 Talas. Need something stronger. I am an beg-intermediate rider. Do you think I am a match for the Yari or do you think I need/want the Magnum/34/Pike?

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    Yari has 35mm stantions, so stiffness should be ok. It does not have as sophisticated of a damping system, so that might make you want to spend more.

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    Yeah but what are we really talking about here? I mean how will a 2016 Yari compare to my 2011 fox 32 which seems significantly over tasked with my riding. Plus it seems like the Yari is actually stiffer then a Pike and you can upgrade the internals to a Pike or better.

    If someone could help me understand if the difference between a Yari and Magnum Pro is significant. Seems like the Yari is stronger.

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