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    Kona unit 2-9 frame available at konaworld!?!?

    http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...categoryid=264

    anyone order one yet direclty from kona?

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    Exciting!

    Quote Originally Posted by mforness3000
    http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...categoryid=264

    anyone order one yet direclty from kona?

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    Nope

    But I thought it was an aluminum frame?!
    Says it is a chromoly, darn, now I don't know what I want.
    Does it have a derailleur hanger on the sliding dropout?

    Also, the sizes seem weird: 16", 18", 19", and 20".

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    Some info from Kona would be nice

    As someone feverishly trying to decide on which 29er frame he wants to buy, thanks to Fisher and their frame problems, it would be nice to see some pics, specs, geo. charts, something????

    I wonder how many orders they're getting sight-unseen?

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    Not working right...

    The 2006 frame shop isn't working correctly in my browser either.

    The whole KONA website is kind of a mess... "The new 2005 bikes are here"

    JMH

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckman4
    As someone feverishly trying to decide on which 29er frame he wants to buy, thanks to Fisher and their frame problems, it would be nice to see some pics, specs, geo. charts, something????

    I wonder how many orders they're getting sight-unseen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOF
    But I thought it was an aluminum frame?!
    Says it is a chromoly, darn, now I don't know what I want.
    Does it have a derailleur hanger on the sliding dropout?

    Also, the sizes seem weird: 16", 18", 19", and 20".

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    I saw the Geometry listed in the Kona catalogue at Eurobike. Didn't bother to bring one home, sorry.
    Head angles are 71 degrees for big sizes, and I think slacker for the smallest size, not sure. Decent amounts of top tube.
    Just realize the Kona will handle night and day different from the Surly, let alone On-One. The On-One with it's own rigid fork should be one of the quickest handling bikes out there, along with the VooDoo's in large sizes, which use a 73 degree head angle, making the front of the bike rather short IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOF
    But I thought it was an aluminum frame?!
    Says it is a chromoly, darn, now I don't know what I want.
    Does it have a derailleur hanger on the sliding dropout?

    Also, the sizes seem weird: 16", 18", 19", and 20".

    -dan
    Useless for a 29er frame to only go to 20". Real lack of thought on this.

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    In the catalogue, the sizing SHEET had a 22" in it. With the bike's picture, only the 16-18-20 were listed as I seem to remember.
    19"? webmasters....

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    22"

    I posted in another kona thread. There will be a 22" offered in USA and Canada, not Europe. A 'friend' who works for Kona Europe told me this a week or two ago.
    Also said the website would be set up by wednesday this week.
    He knew nothing about the complete bike whispers. Europe at least will be frame only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    The 2-9 has always been a steel frame.
    I could have sworn that the one I saw at PedrosFest (some guy named Dale's personal ride) that it was aluminum.

    I could be wrong though.

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    Does Kona think the European 29" fans are all under 6foot? Of the ones I know, 70% rides XL, 20% L, and 10% M. Then there's another 10% or more than would want an XXL if it existed.
    This means that Kona would be throwing away 70% of their potential market here by not bringing the 22" to Europe. Where do these companies use to get their vital management info from?
    That's it, I'm launching a framesize poll!

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    ... and if we just ... Unit 411

    frame $499

    shipping $49.90 said would send email to confirm actual cost

    Kona World online largest frame is size 20"

    geometry www.konart.net/2K6_Catalog_Proof_pgs64-65.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumby
    I posted in another kona thread. There will be a 22" offered in USA and Canada, not Europe.
    That makes even less sense than not offering a 16" (which, fortunately for me, they will). Maybe it'd make sense in Spain, but last time I was in Europe (Denmark & Netherlands) it seemed like people were a lot taller than here, even.

    Quote Originally Posted by totally_fixxated
    frame $499
    That's a little disappointing. Rumors had the price at $425. Still a Monkey killer though, even if it is a bit more expensive.
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    Urgency

    Well that gives me a real sense of urgengy. I have reserved one with Kona so I guess they should be getting back to me pretty soon with the good news.... I still need wheels a fork and headset so I need to get on it I guess.
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    for those of you who really know 29er geometry well.

    Does the 16" frame with a 74 degree ST angle and a 69.5 degree HT angle sound like a good match? I wonder where they measure standover height since standover is still over 30" on that frame size......hmmmm.......and the 18" has a 31.7" standover number.......I'd be rackin my nuts on that frame I think. ............

    Hmmmmmmm..... frame sizing is getting frustrating to me.

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    From that Kona Link...

    Quote Originally Posted by totally_fixxated
    frame $499

    shipping $49.90 said would send email to confirm actual cost

    Kona World online largest frame is size 20"

    geometry www.konart.net/2K6_Catalog_Proof_pgs64-65.jpg
    22" Unit 2-9 = 71' HT
    73' ST
    25"TT
    17.3" Chainstays
    12.4" BB Height
    34.3" Standover

    NICE!!!!!
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    I've got ten bucks saying that the 16" has a longer wheelbase than the 18".

    Why offer a 19" I wonder? Because in that range they'll sell most bikes? Might as well make 16-18-20-22 and make sure everyone can get the size of his choice.

    The running frame size poll already shows that the 22" could sell as many as the 16" and 18" together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlowBoy
    That's a little disappointing. Rumors had the price at $425. Still a Monkey killer though, even if it is a bit more expensive.
    I thought it would kill my monkey when I first heard of it, but now i'm not so sure. The kona is $499 and you still have to buy a fork.

    --Just me thinking out loud:

    The three things that I think are weaknesses on the KM are 1) weight, 2) BB height and 3) the horizontal dropout/disc combo thing. But in reality, I don't care about weight so much and the horizontal drop/disc thing hasn't really been a problem. On the other hand, i wouldn't mind a little more BB height.

    I think the Kona is much better looking, will be lighter, and I think the sliding dropouts are nice, and the extra crank clearance would be nice too.

    Frame geometry of the Unit 2-9 18" and 19" sizes is almost exactly the same as the KM 18" and 20" frame, so i don't see an advantage in having a different (hopefully better) fit.

    So if I were to switch frames today, i think i'd first have to figure out what size Kona to get, then I'd pay over $600 for it (frame/fork).

    I think I'll wait until springtime. By then we'll have some reviews, probably from many Monkey owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloxxki
    I've got ten bucks saying that the 16" has a longer wheelbase than the 18".
    I'd be happy to add another ten bucks to that pool.

    If I get myself a 16" Unit for commute/adventurebike duty, I might just have to pair it with a custom 440mm fork to bring the HTA up to 71 degrees ... which would drop the BB down to 11.7, but then again that's the same as the KM, and wouldn't be a disaster for that type of riding.
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