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    Kenda Recommendations?

    Looks like my team will have a Kenda sponsorship this year. I don't know much about their line. I raced on Maxxis Ignitors last season and Bonty XDX's. Was looking at Racing Ralph's for this season but I just found out about the Kenda deal. Looking for something with some side bite, decent rolling and a reasonable weight. I also run tubeless with sealant. I'm in rocky New England as well so durability is needed.

    I just looked at the Slant Six and the Karma. Any other choices?
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    I have used Karmas 2.1 up front and 1.9 in back with no issues in upstate NY. In the thick slop they lack but they have done fine on loose over hard pack, rocks (no sidewall tears yet), damp, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinshield
    Any other choices?
    Switch teams.

    It's a whole new ballgame at Kenda this year for 29"ers. So you might just have to be the Guinea Pig and try them all out as their line up is brand spanking new.


    Slant Six (combo of Nevegal and Small Block 8), Kozmik Lite II for rear, Klimax Lite, Happy Medium, as well as the old standards Karma 1.9's, Small Block 8, Nevegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Switch teams.
    LOL, there's no mandate so I can use other stuff but I thought I would ask anyway. Might start the season on the Ignitors.
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    I've been running Small Block 8 as my favorite rear tire for a few years. I've just snagged a couple of Ikons and am trying them out. But I have nothing but love for the SB8 on rocks and hardpack. If you deal with lots of wet trail conditions, it probably wouldn't work nearly as well, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by direneed
    I've been running Small Block 8 as my favorite rear tire for a few years. I've just snagged a couple of Ikons and am trying them out. But I have nothing but love for the SB8 on rocks and hardpack. If you deal with lots of wet trail conditions, it probably wouldn't work nearly as well, though.
    Yeah they pack up too much. A friend was running them briefly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Switch teams.

    It's a whole new ballgame at Kenda this year for 29"ers. So you might just have to be the Guinea Pig and try them all out as their line up is brand spanking new.


    Slant Six (combo of Nevegal and Small Block 8), Kozmik Lite II for rear, Klimax Lite, Happy Medium, as well as the old standards Karma 1.9's, Small Block 8, Nevegal.
    Well, the Karma, SB8 and Nevegal are available. I would not count on seeing the other announced tires anytime soon. They still have not shipped some models that were announce at interbike 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Well, the Karma, SB8 and Nevegal are available. I would not count on seeing the other announced tires anytime soon. They still have not shipped some models that were announce at interbike 2009.
    Hmmmm....

    I wonder what's up with Kenda? Announcements, new tires listed on their website - and no product.

    I guess the OP is back to Karma/SB Eight/Nevegal - or switching teams.

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    I like Nevegal front, SB8 rear. I like the looks of the Slant Six as well and wouldn't mind giving it a try. I'd like to try it in the front on fast hardpacked rides instead of my Nevegal, with the SB8 rear. I bet that'd be a fast combo. Or for looser or more aggressive conditions, the Nevegal front and Slant Six rear.
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    The nevegal is an awesome tire that can be ridden fine tubeless and in all 4 seasons; however, it weighs a ton and is one of the slowest rolling tires they make. I would stick with a karma up front and sb8 in rear or karmas all around if it is going to be wet.

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    I wonder if they'll come up with the dred tread for 29ers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Hmmmm....

    I wonder what's up with Kenda? Announcements, new tires listed on their website - and no product.

    I guess the OP is back to Karma/SB Eight/Nevegal - or switching teams.
    Not enough production capacity. They produce tires for other brands and their own models are being bumped.
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    Friends don't let friends ride Kenda.

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    SB8 for hardpack. The Slant Six looks promising, but who knows when it will be available in 29er or how much it will weight. I have heard rumors of under 600 grams to over 800 grams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Not enough production capacity. They produce tires for other brands and their own models are being bumped.
    Well, at least they are making some money with those contracts for the other brands.

    I do like the looks of some of the tread patterns they have listed on their site for 29"er, so I hope that someday in the future a couple of them get released. That Nevegal/SB 8 combo they are dubbing the Slant Six probably interests me the most to try - if and when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Well, at least they are making some money with those contracts for the other brands.

    I do like the looks of some of the tread patterns they have listed on their site for 29"er, so I hope that someday in the future a couple of them get released. That Nevegal/SB 8 combo they are dubbing the Slant Six probably interests me the most to try - if and when.

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    Except they could make more selling their own brand. A peeve of the US office.

    The Kommando is the new model that intrigues me. A scaled up version of their 'cross tire. The pic on the site is for the narrow version and the 1.9 and 2.2 look very different. Unlike any mtb tread as of yet.

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    I just posted in another thread, but I am having the Slant Six put on my new bike right now and will be picking it up this weekend. They look very promising for New England terrain. A 6"-12" snow storm for tomorrow is going to make it a while till they see dirt though.

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    Where'd you find the slant six? I can't find anybody who has it in stock. Sorry to recommend a damn tire you can't even find, LOL.
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    Regarding tubeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinshield
    Looks like my team will have a Kenda sponsorship this year. I don't know much about their line. I raced on Maxxis Ignitors last season and Bonty XDX's. Was looking at Racing Ralph's for this season but I just found out about the Kenda deal. Looking for something with some side bite, decent rolling and a reasonable weight. I also run tubeless with sealant. I'm in rocky New England as well so durability is needed.

    I just looked at the Slant Six and the Karma. Any other choices?
    From site:

    "Kenda does not endorse the use of any fluid-based sealant products in any Kenda tube-type or tubeless-type tires. Use of any fluid-based products will void any warranty claims
    29'' models are L3R Pro compound"


    Maybe your team sponsor will not worry about this. I realize people run various Kenda models with sealant. Their sidewalls seem to be a little less pourus then say WTB non-tubeless version. I am getting Karmas and was planning to get the Stans kit but am having second thoughts now. Think I'll run tubes first off and see how I like them.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I'd say fhaaaggit abowdit. From my experience, Kenda's no good in the NE. I rode SB8s and the rear sidewall got eaten up within 200 miles. Also, once the rocks and leaves got wet, it was slipping even on really slight inclines (I mean less than 5% grade). Also tried Nevegal but the sidewall is so flimsy and runs poorly with low pressures. The SB8 converted to tubeless easy enough though, but the sidewalls got shredded too much for tubeless on the rear end of the bike. They all pinch flat easily too--even if you pump them up over 35 psi and bounce off every rock, they'll still manage to pinch flat.

    Haven't tried any of the new Kenda tires, but the only new one available is the Slant Six. Dunno if that has sidewalls that can withstand rocks though.

    Fire XC Pros seem to be popular up there. Another friend of mine likes Rubber Queens for Diablo, but that's park riding stuff on a Kona Dawg or maybe his Stab. I'm a big Maxxis fan--I run High Rollers on my 26 since it loves to lean and Ikon EXO x2 my 29er XC bike (which had SB8s before). I highly recommend the Ikons.

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    Regarding tubeless fluids in Kendas, I have a set of UST Nevegals on my big hit bike, and the Stan's fluid has bubbled the inside of the casing. It's not leaking air but it's disconcerting.
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    Bike29.com has the Slant Six, just not listed on the website yet. There are plenty of people running Kena tires tubeless and at 145lbs I am not to worried about softer sidewalls. This will be the first time I run any tire tubeless so we shall see how I like it. They are being mounted onto Crest rims. Worse thing that can happen is I switch back to tubes or move to a different tire.

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    Hawley has a FEW of the Slant Six 29ers in stock. Mostly the 2.0s.

    Any shop should be able to order them.

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    Has anyone seen how the volume of the 2.2 is? Is it big like the Nevegal 2.25? I think I'd like a 2.2 to run in the front, with a SB8 in the rear for fast and hard packed trails.
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    let me get this straight you are a racer and raced on ignitors? your team let you? you race for a mountain bike team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Turner
    let me get this straight you are a racer and raced on ignitors? your team let you? you race for a mountain bike team?
    So did Ryan Trebon, Barry Wicks, and Kris Sneddon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim311
    Has anyone seen how the volume of the 2.2 is? Is it big like the Nevegal 2.25? I think I'd like a 2.2 to run in the front, with a SB8 in the rear for fast and hard packed trails.
    The 2.2's are what I just picked up from Bike29.com on my Jet 9. They are nice and fat and the tread looks like it will be fast and grippy. There was a good sized box full of them in the shop when I was there on Saturday. They are not on the website yet, but if you give George a call I am sure he can get them out to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Turner
    let me get this straight you are a racer and raced on ignitors? your team let you? you race for a mountain bike team?
    Have you seen some of the trails in New England? We have people racing on Nevegals around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR1
    SB8 for hardpack. The Slant Six looks promising, but who knows when it will be available in 29er or how much it will weight. I have heard rumors of under 600 grams to over 800 grams.
    I had a chance to put a 29 x 2.2 on the scale and it was 680. I only had one to weigh though.

    Weighed a 26 x 2.35 and it was 650 FWIW

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    i race on karma 1.9's a great, light predictable tyre, especially lose stuff over hardpack, rocks etc. They are a bit nervous on wet rocks, but so is everything.

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    Good to know

    Quote Originally Posted by cabbgage
    i race on karma 1.9's a great, light predictable tyre, especially lose stuff over hardpack, rocks etc. They are a bit nervous on wet rocks, but so is everything.
    Heading to lbs to pick mine up.. Do you run tubs or tubeless? Also have order in for a Slant Six for up front. They seem to be a bit more elusive to get. I'm thinking this will be a great combo for trail conditions I ride come summer.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Kenda sponsored guys may have access to all the newer rubber. Binggeli ran a Happy Medium on the rear of his bike for DH at Fontana because he wanted something that rolled with less rolling resistance. But he might have special treatment due to his profile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47
    Heading to lbs to pick mine up.. Do you run tubs or tubeless? Also have order in for a Slant Six for up front. They seem to be a bit more elusive to get. I'm thinking this will be a great combo for trail conditions I ride come summer.
    I ran the 2.2" Kenda Karma tubeless on Flow rims for quite a while. They did weep a bit through the sidewalls for a few rounds of the 'stans-shakey-shake' dance or whatever you want to call that routine, but eventually sealed up and worked quite well.

    The Karma, as a rear tire, does not have the best braking performance, but it is adequate. Other than that, I liked them quite well. Fast rolling and grip was better than I would expect from a tire with relatively few knobs and low knob height.

    I look forward to trying a Slant Six when I get the chance as well.

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    has anyone run the slant six in back with a karma in the front? what would be the positive/negatives of this?

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    I had kenda small block 8 2.1 on my old norco pinnacle they were better than continental x king on my new charger.

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    Kenda Recommendations?

    Anyone ever try the slant 6? I accidentally purchased two nevegal pro (downhill heavy as hell version) instead of the x pro (trail/AM version) and I am not looking for a less aggressive rear.

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    I have the slant 6 front and rear. They work pretty well. The tread gets packed up when ridden in wet clay. I am running tubes on Velocity P35s. The 2.2 puffs up to 2.36"

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    They do make a sealant ready version now adays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sickmak90 View Post
    Anyone ever try the slant 6? I accidentally purchased two nevegal pro (downhill heavy as hell version) instead of the x pro (trail/AM version) and I am not looking for a less aggressive rear.
    I had the 2.2 Slant Six and liked it for everything except very wet days. I now have IRD XC Fires and Panaracer Comets. If I go back to Slant six's in the future for my riding I would go with the 2.0 version.

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    Im no kenda hater but the tread patterns have gone stale. You can find better tires at not much more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnieron12 View Post
    Im no kenda hater but the tread patterns have gone stale. You can find better tires at not much more money.
    Better for $40 or less per tire? That's what I can get the Slant 6 for. I'm looking for a new set of tires that will work with my i19 rims for tubeless. Currently running Racing Ralphs but they are too loose on the rim and others are have has issues with them sealing up. I haven't tried them tubeless myself, but when changing a flat, the tire just about falls off the rim it's so loose. Thinking hard about the Maxxis Ikon front and rear but I can get a killer deal on Kenda and WTB tires.
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