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    Jones Steel Spaceframe

    My long wait is over. It's finally here <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629688429/" title="Jones Frame and Truss Fork by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5144/5629688429_cd4cb42ba3_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Frame and Truss Fork"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5630273756/" title="Jones H Bar by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5022/5630273756_a1862c87e2_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones H Bar"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689085/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5065/5629689085_b697287351_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5630273298/" title="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/5630273298_3a8cb1b088_b.jpg" width="680" height="1024" alt="P35 Laced to Paul Hubs"></a<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5629689663/" title="Jones Steel Spaceframe by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5629689663_f7c87e4632_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Jones Steel Spaceframe"></a>
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    Very nice, I didn't think I would care for the blue SF, but that is a nice color. Interesting rim combo.

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    Thank you rjedoaks I am very happy how everything turned out. It took several pictures from Jeff before I made the decision. It is actually tricky depending on how the light struck the picture. But all in all, very satisfied!
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    Very pretty sky blue! I think you will love the ride as well.
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    one has landed in singapore, not mine but a friend...im excited for him...hahaha

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    That looks great in blue.

    If it rides like the ti version you're going to love it.

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    Nice build! I like the silver and Ti parts with the blue.

    Anyone know what that frame weighs?

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    Thank you guys
    @ Enel: I have been following your threads in regards of the steel. Great review!
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    The frame approx weights 9 lbs approx 3 lbs heavier than Ti:
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    Very Nice. Is the steel SF now coming in two different color options; blue or black? Or can you order any color you want?

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    Looks Great!

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    Very nice!
    Is that a King headset in there? I thought others than the Cane Creek won't work with the truss fork?

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    It looks great...

    Has anyone ridden one of these yet? I'd love to finally get a ride report.

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    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by singlespeedstu
    That looks great in blue.
    Even with the "grandpa's truss" fork, that blue makes it a very attractive bike.

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    @THreeD : Choice of Cobalt Blue or Black only for now.
    @Wally : It is a Cane creek 100 special for Jones spaceframe. New style no more 2 top cup style headset. Very sleek and nice.
    @Top : as soon as I get some mileage I will certainly give my report. I have an access on a Ti version as well so hopefully I can come up with good review. One thing very obvious now is the weight.
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    Question

    Did you get a full bike built by Jeff or just the frame and you built up from there?

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    Frame weight

    Does 9lbs include fork, headset, and BB? Sweet looking bike! Love the blue!

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    I'm finding myself coming back a few times a day to check out this bike, that is a beautiful looking ride.

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    I'm looking forward to hearing about this as well as I'm considering getting one myself. Not sure if I'm ready to drop money on a Ti frame just yet.

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    Wow - looks awesome! I'm also curious if that weight includes the fork, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29ftw
    Wow - looks awesome! I'm also curious if that weight includes the fork, etc
    Weights are on the Jones site-
    jonesbikes.com/production_framesets.html

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    Seems quite portly

    Quote Originally Posted by staz
    Weights are on the Jones site-
    jonesbikes.com/production_framesets.html
    Even for a steel 29 incher frame.

    Steel Spaceframe 6.70lbs 3040g

    Steel Truss fork (with bolts and aluminum steerer tube) 2.64lbs 1200g

    http://jonesbikes.com/production_framesets.html

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    I love the look of that bike. God damn.

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    I bought the frame fork headset front wheel setup and I built the rest. I am very satisfied with the service I got from Jeff and Sheila. Truly wonderful people to work with.
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    Thanks
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    Looks frikkin' awesome! Jones meetup this Saturday?
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    Thank you Drevil. You read my mind sir. Definitely!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeD
    I'm finding myself coming back a few times a day to check out this bike
    your not the only one, looks great !

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    I want to see it all dirty, go out and ride the heck out of it.

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    Easter Bunny Just Stopped By!!!!



    Heck on coloring eggs....gonna build up a bike

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    nice. Dont forget to post the finish product!
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    Quote Originally Posted by staz


    Heck on coloring eggs....gonna build up a bike
    I think Mr. Jones is going to sell a lot of these steel SF. Maybe I'll get one, one of these days. Congrats to you.

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    Really nice!

    That is a gorgeous bike. Nice job and congrats.

    Interesting these only come in one size though. And seems a rather small one at that. Will these frames fit a 6'2" rider? I'm used to a much longer ETT but would love to try a SF. Especially at $1500.

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    Thanks! I suggest you call Jeff. He is about 6'1 if im not mistaken.
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    My Early Birthday Gift to Self

    Just finished the build yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower
    Just finished the build yesterday.

    Alfine?? Looks awesome

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    Alfine 11. Works great.

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    Congratulation! Very nice.
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    Totally cool bikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by staz


    Heck on coloring eggs....gonna build up a bike
    Nice, what wheel set up do you have there?

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    nice bikes on both accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower
    Just finished the build yesterday.
    Beautiful bike there. You going to angle those bars down? It looks like mostly everyone angles them down a little. It looks like you'd get some wrist pain with them like that. Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeD
    Nice, what wheel set up do you have there?
    Its a 50mm Speedway Rim laced to The Jones 135-F front hub and a Larry Tire....Jeff built the wheel.... He also carries the rims 50mm and 70mm and Hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeD
    Beautiful bike there. You going to angle those bars down? It looks like mostly everyone angles them down a little. It looks like you'd get some wrist pain with them like that. Just curious.
    I took the picture before I had a chance to make all of the adjustments. The bars are angled down now. The Jones loop bars are very comfortable.

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    Ready to Roll!

    Slowly pieced it together between the 18 days of rain in W.PA!


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    Quote Originally Posted by staz
    Slowly pieced got it together between the 18 days of rain in W.PA!
    You're gonna love it.

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    Fat front

    I have put around 100 miles on the fat front, after using the standard 29er front for 200mi. So after 5 weeks of riding the SF, I thought I would post a quick summary.
    Great handling bike, quick but stable. It;s also a rigid bike, so it has to be ridden accordingly. I'm 6' 240lbs , the fit is very good, relaxed and upright. The J Bar seems to fit my hands naturally after the right tilt is found. I use Ergons w/ a flat bar normally. No wrist issues w/ the J bar. The 29er front is nice but the Fat front is very nice. The extra 2.5 lbs up front is really a non issue as far as I am concerned. This big tire with 12lbs pressure smoothes out trail debris and rolls over most anything, instead of being deflected. Much easier to hold your line on a rocky rutty uphill/downhill. I pump the tires up for the 6 mi road ride to the trail.
    Nothing you haven't heard already, just another happy customer. I'll post again once I get more time on the bike. Rich
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    rjedoaks: Nice! I felt the same the first time I got on mine on a downhill. It handles better and quite stable on roots and rocks. With all this rain. Sadly I have only put about 90 miles on mine. I will be trying the fat front this week and see the comparison. I will be giving my input once I ride both.
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    Staz: Are you running 6 speed? What kind of cranks are you using?
    Nice Ride!
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    Hobbyfreak, when jeff stated he runs 9 lbs in the tire, and that 12 feels like basket ball, I still said to myself, there is no way I'm running 12 lbs at my weight. He shipped the wheel w/ 10.5, I aired it up to 20. Bad idea, bounces off everything, and stops you cold if you loose momentum. Let the pressure down, the tire starts to roll over everything. 11.5 felt good today. I don't really see any drawbacks with the big front, I mean unless you were climbing all day. I think you are going to enjoy it.
    As Ashley from the UK said to me, it's like having two bikes. Rich

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    rjedoaks,
    what name brand of gas tank bag is that? nice bike

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    rjedoaks: Tell me about that bag you up front there....

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    FuelBelt Aero FuelBox/ from Amazon. 15 bucks. I was tired of having to reach in my pack for my camera. This makes it super easy and quick. The frame pack comes w/ a plastic liner to hold it's shape, which can be removed. With the liner, there is only enough room for my digicam.If you remove the liner, a cell phone or a couple energy bars can be added.

    Carousel makes a very nice one that is a touch larger and bombproof, but it is 80.00 shipped.I originally ordered the Carousel, thinking this one would be cheap and wouldn't fit the TT well. Then I canceled the Carousel order, because this works perfect. Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak
    Staz: Are you running 6 speed? What kind of cranks are you using?
    Nice Ride!
    I have a 9 speed XT cassette 11-34 , 9 speed chain and Sram X7 10speed cranks.
    I took the large ring off and to the grinder..... making it into a bash and use the 28T inside ring.
    Been looking into the SRAM cranks because the spider can be removed to run a HomeBrewed spriderless chainring ( which I'm waiting on).
    http://www.homebrewedcomponents.com/...ess-chainrings

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    Quote Originally Posted by staz
    I have a 9 speed XT cassette 11-34 , 9 speed chain and Sram X7 10speed cranks.
    I took the large ring off and to the grinder..... making it into a bash and use the 28T inside ring.
    Been looking into the SRAM cranks because the spider can be removed to run a HomeBrewed spriderless chainring ( which I'm waiting on).
    http://www.homebrewedcomponents.com/...ess-chainrings
    Nice I am thinking of running mine geared for the winter. still looking around for the best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak
    Nice I am thinking of running mine geared for the winter. still looking around for the best option.
    Sounds good! I could use only a 6 speed in back....have lots of goat hill climbs around these parts of PA. Post up if you go six speed.

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    rjedoaks: I rode the fat larry (borrowed) on 9lbs and it rode great for me. I was rolling over everything nicely. As I start to lower it down to 7lbs it becomes squirmy on turns. 8lbs would do but 9lbs seems to be the magic number for me. I will post as soon as I get mine.
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    Wow thats low.
    I put the 29er front back on yesterday after riding the Fat for over 100 mi. Felt more precise, but more care needed to be taken, especially through rocky turns and downhill sections. It is difficult to wash out the Fat front wheel. Again, super plush. For myself, I think the Fat front is going to be used the majority of the time.

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    Totally agree! Jeff is building mine as we speak. I should have listen to him from the start. But now I have something to choose from depending on the trail.thumbsup: :
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    Anyone think that a 650B x 3" would be the ideal front wheel, if the tyre was available? Thinking that the OD would be similar but overall it'd be lighter.
    I have a Ti-wan Jones on order and haven't built the wheels yet. For the wooded singletrack here (hardpack and minor roots) the fat front looks a bit ott, but the reports from everyone who rides fat anywhere a bit rockier have got me thinking.

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    First test today

    ...with a Fat wheel, that is. It rolls surpisingly fast, we'll see how it works on the trail. 47mm Trialtech 630g rim, Jones front hub, DT Comp spokes. Steering seems to be a tad quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by james-o
    Anyone think that a 650B x 3" would be the ideal front wheel, if the tyre was available? Thinking that the OD would be similar but overall it'd be lighter.
    I have a Ti-wan Jones on order and haven't built the wheels yet. For the wooded singletrack here (hardpack and minor roots) the fat front looks a bit ott, but the reports from everyone who rides fat anywhere a bit rockier have got me thinking.
    I'll say it will probably never happen. It might be lighter, but it would probably sacrifice the extra air suspension too much. I'd be willing to try it, but I doubt you will get both a good rim and the big 650B tire made to be able to try it. Luckily, I really like the Larry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding
    I'll say it will probably never happen. It might be lighter, but it would probably sacrifice the extra air suspension too much. I'd be willing to try it, but I doubt you will get both a good rim and the big 650B tire made to be able to try it. Luckily, I really like the Larry.

    Aside from the fact that fat 650B rims and tires don't seem to be readily available, I'd expect that if you want something "less fat", then you'd be better of keeping the geometry intact and going with a big 29" tire like the 2.55 Weirwolf or 2.4 Ardent.

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    Agreed, highly unlikely. I have Ardent 2.4s for the front already and it'll probably end up on a Flow for the new bike. But I'm watching the 650B news sites in case the boom in fat bikes brings a 650B version, ever hopeful..

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    650b is underused in my opinion. agreed a 3" 650b would be wild, as are 29 front/650b rear combos to utilise the easier-to-be-shorter stays. i'm surprised we aren't seeing more mixed wheel bikes....ah well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn
    650b is underused in my opinion. agreed a 3" 650b would be wild, as are 29 front/650b rear combos to utilise the easier-to-be-shorter stays. i'm surprised we aren't seeing more mixed wheel bikes....ah well!
    I like the look of the YiPsan fat front/650b rear. Made me wish for flat black on my steel Jones...

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    Quote Originally Posted by simen
    ...with a Fat wheel, that is. It rolls surpisingly fast, we'll see how it works on the trail. 47mm Trialtech 630g rim, Jones front hub, DT Comp spokes. Steering seems to be a tad quicker.
    Nice setup! What made you decide on the 47mm trailtech rim rather than the single wall 50mm Jeff sells?
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    Oh, just that it's easyer to get one in Europe.

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    H-Loop Bars?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tripower
    Just finished the build yesterday.
    How do you like the Loop bars? Looking into some........And what length stem are you running?

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    Hey all,
    very excited looking at these bikes. I'm currently in the market and have spoken to Jeff about building a steel spaceframe.
    Those without the fat front and geared drive train...what weights are you seeing on the complete bikes?
    Are we up to the 30lbs range?
    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djump View Post
    Hey all,
    very excited looking at these bikes. I'm currently in the market and have spoken to Jeff about building a steel spaceframe.
    Those without the fat front and geared drive train...what weights are you seeing on the complete bikes?
    Are we up to the 30lbs range?
    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    -D
    My SS is probably 27lbs, so I bet you are in the ball park at 30 lbs.

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    @ Enel

    Thanks for the response.

    I didn't go too bling on my build.
    Mostly with the stock components on Jeff's build sheet.
    I'll post once I get the quote from Jeff.

    This is a totally new experience for me having to trust Jeff with the build.
    I was totally AR with my current bike wanting to fuss over every component.

    My current SS bike is 21~22lbs so the 8lbs+ is quite a shocker.
    I'm not a racer but I do like to climb so we'll see.
    I'm holding off on the fat front at the moment. (the skeptic in me)
    I'm thinking I have to change my mentality and buy into Jeff's system, based on what I'm reading here.

    The only trick thing I'm doing is a 2x6 setup. I'm looking forward to that.

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    Any of the Taiwan Ti frames around yet? I'm suprised that there's not been any posted yet, or did I miss one?

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    Here it is Full XTR with fat tire. Weight around 24lbs <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5562351716/" title="Spaceframe 3d by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5562351716_50c6e75ce3_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Spaceframe 3d"></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5562350644/" title="The Bare bone by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5562350644_833ed5e05b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="The Bare bone"></a>
    Keep it simple, keep it single!

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    Mine came out around 26lbs with the normal weirwolf 2.55 front tire. SS. Not too bad. I notice when my fat tire is on, it handles very well on steep or any descent. BUt slightly hard on climbs. Overall if im on a rocky trail and alot of root descents etc. The fat tire is on! Have fun on yours
    Keep it simple, keep it single!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak View Post
    Here it is Full XTR with fat tire. Weight around 24lbs
    That is so sweet! Which rim width did you go with?

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    Whoa, very nice, time to get her dirty

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    Nice! Looks great with the silver kit.

    PS, how do the P35s feel for climbing? I appreciate the wider rim's benefits but 600g is getting heavy.. mind you compared to a fat front.. I'm still tempted to go for Flows for all-round use (2.2 RaceKings for road/gravel/summer hardpack tours, 2.4 Ardents for dirt) but the P35s come well-recommended. It's just the weight that bothers me, I want a fast-rolling bike and it's not going off any big drops. Some average ones, a few local DH runs maybe.

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    james-o, the taiwanese ti frames are due with jeff very soon, i'm expecting to get my shipment details in the next week or two,very exciting.
    will post shots after i've got it caked in some gold old scottish muck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    My SS is probably 27lbs, so I bet you are in the ball park at 30 lbs.

    Just buy it, it's a great bike.
    I agree-I'd say my steel Spaceframe is the best bike I've ever had as far as being fun to ride goes. I have the fat front wheel on mine, and though it's not light (about 31 lbs), it feels a lot lighter than it is to ride. Power transfer feels to be a lot more direct than on my full suspension bike, which is nice for technical riding and climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octavius View Post
    james-o, the taiwanese ti frames are due with jeff very soon, i'm expecting to get my shipment details in the next week or two,very exciting.
    will post shots after i've got it caked in some gold old scottish muck...
    Enjoy..

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    taiwanese ti frames

    Are these taiwanese ti frames the ones priced at $3800?

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    yup, thats right Aussie luvR -

    see jeff's blog at jonesbikes.coms under 'titanium bike 10 may'

    this was one of the first framesets from taiwan built from a month or two back...

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    Does anyone race one of these bikes? Really, not to be a jerk.

    I want a rigid 29er. I love my current bikes that are all below 26lbs, without anything crazy... The rigid forks that I have ridden are rather flimsy, which I hate.

    Sell me on the steel space frame. I love the look of the bike and the way everyone says it rides... I just cant get on board with a 30+lb 1x10 bike even with really expensive parts.

    Like I said, I don't mean to offend anyone, I want one myself!!! I just need some reason to go this route and not some other way.

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    I race and ride the mid Atlantic region, everything from fast flowy to fast and slow tech...


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    errr, i do....

    and i guess to some degree of success....

    to be fair, i generally race 10-12 hr races on it...so the fun of the handling keeps me from falling off and going to sleep under a bush out of pure boredom for doing 12 hrs of laps :-)

    ive also done xc races on it, and of course several sswc type races...

    they race fine...

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    i should qualify, mine is ti, and well, is 20lb on the nose....but its the way they ride that keeps you happy, and after a few hrs riding hard, smiles are worth more than 2;b of weight...

    how much did tomac's yeti weigh?

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    People race on 40lb bikes. You can race anything. Just buy it and give it a go. If you don't like it, you've got another excuse to buy something else.

    But I will say if I were to buy a race-only rig, it wouldn't be this bike. Maybe an Air9.

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    Yes, people do race 40lb bikes... I don't. Really my build would look to be in the 30lb range. not a 20lb ss with super bling parts... I could deal with a 25-27lb bike but just cant seem to get behind the weight, I know there are a ton of other options, just not that many that hold my attention as much as this. I was just looking for a good review or testimonial that moves me to pull the trigger...


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    Pity there is no ti diamond frame :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clink View Post
    Pity there is no ti diamond frame :-(
    I agree, I would buy one. My friend has a Merlin built one and I can't get him to give it to me.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyfreak View Post
    Here it is Full XTR with fat tire. Weight around 24lbs <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5562351716/" title="Spaceframe 3d by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5150/5562351716_50c6e75ce3_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Spaceframe 3d"></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pipoy/5562350644/" title="The Bare bone by Lucky&amp;Pipay, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5562350644_833ed5e05b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="The Bare bone"></a>
    OMFG that is stunning.

    I spoke with Jeff yesterday (ordered a loop H-bar), and I have to say he is a fantastic human being. I called to order a bar, and began asking some questions regarding stems and setup.

    I am in the market to replace the frame on my commuter/fire road bike, and want to get a bike that can do it all - paved commutes, touring, fire roads, single track. I'm running an Alfine and would like to stick with the IGH drive train, and can take or leave my current belt drive (which I really like, but can easily go with a chain).
    I've been considering a number of options, including the Van Dessel WTF , a Surly Crosscheck with the H-bar, '11 Salsa El Mariachi with rigid fork, Vassago Fisticuff, Surly KM, and the like.

    Anyway, Jeff and I ended up talking (more Jeff than me - I was all ears on his philosophy) for over an hour. I was spellbound. Plus, Jeff is only a few years younger than I am, so we both share similar experience with cycling and the perspective/ethos that accompanies it.

    Right now the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on the Diamond Frame (I need to be able to use racks) is the 135mm front hub. I run an Alfine dynamo with Supernova E3 Pro lighting (excellent system, BTW) and am looking into the option of rebuilding the hub with a long axle and extra spacers. I don't do any big drops or huge technical stuff, so I don't think I have to worry too much about that, it's just a matter of me checking to see if I can actually do an axle swap on that hub.

    If I can, he he he he he he

    Anyway, OT Tangent over. Hobbyfreak and other posters are only consolidating my opinion that a Jones is in my future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross413 View Post
    Does anyone race one of these bikes? Really, not to be a jerk.

    I want a rigid 29er. I love my current bikes that are all below 26lbs, without anything crazy... The rigid forks that I have ridden are rather flimsy, which I hate.
    My bud here has a ~28lb SS Jones steel diamond frame, and a ~19lb Specialized SS set up rigid for racing. Given a choice on any particular day for a bike to ride for fun and competency, the Jones wins every time. On race day it is the Specialized though.
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    Don't suppose anyone wants to sell me a 2nd hand diamond frame? (ad in 'wanted')

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    The big question..

    What is your Out the Door expense into the black steel space Frame? TI groovy but out of reach.
    I am really wanting to build Jones - but I need to budget accordingly.
    You have it EXACTLY how I would have it... maybe custom neon orange paint to bother the bike snobs in the area...
    (I know asking how much is horrible when dream bikes are involved.. but my wife and I are teachers in California... Funds are limited)

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    My bike is heavier than yours - it does not have Carbon or Titanium parts - I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weinerts View Post
    What is your Out the Door expense into the black steel space Frame? TI groovy but out of reach.
    I am really wanting to build Jones - but I need to budget accordingly.
    You have it EXACTLY how I would have it... maybe custom neon orange paint to bother the bike snobs in the area...
    (I know asking how much is horrible when dream bikes are involved.. but my wife and I are teachers in California... Funds are limited)

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    I know this ain't (because you are a teacher ) addressed to me, but the frame/fork/headset/fat front combo is probably like this: $1500/$100/$600= $2200. From there you need to add your other bits (like rear wheel, brakes, drivetrain, etc. Hopefully that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weinerts View Post
    What is your Out the Door expense into the black steel space Frame? TI groovy but out of reach.
    I am really wanting to build Jones - but I need to budget accordingly.
    You have it EXACTLY how I would have it... maybe custom neon orange paint to bother the bike snobs in the area...
    (I know asking how much is horrible when dream bikes are involved.. but my wife and I are teachers in California... Funds are limited)

    Thanks
    Since you're budget minded, I built my steel diamond (I know, it's not a spaceframe) Jones for $2100. This includes frame/fork/fat front/tire/headset/seatpost from Jones (with shipping), and all new components (mostly sale items). The only things not included in the price are the rear wheel and saddle, because I reused what I had. Not a top shelf build by any means, but it's a nice solid bike for me.
    Adjust the price accordingly to build a similar spaceframe.

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    Anyone here 5'7" riding a Space Frame?
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    Frame is sold
    Last edited by davefj40; 08-26-2011 at 03:13 AM.

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    TRIPOWER - what rear rim are you running in that picture?

    All three of your rigs are just plain SICK! Nice stuff on this thread. ALL WOOD
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