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    Iron Horse at Walmart

    Saw three models of Iron Horse 29er at Walmart just now. Two are full suspension. One is hardtail.


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    See! I told you all the end of the world was coming. No one takes me seriously.

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    I remember the last Walmart 29er thread. Gosh, I hope this one goes the same way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnthomps08 View Post
    I remember the last Walmart 29er thread. Gosh, I hope this one goes the same way!
    You mean the people who get mad at people making fun of department store bikes leave and make their own forums that are mainly based around bashing this forum and bashing people who buy expensive bikes?

    Wee!

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    Honestly, I was tempted to throw down for one. Mostly though, it is just interesting to see the wheel size hitting the mainstream.

    The bike that really and truly tempts me is that single speed Thruster in yellow and red.


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    in three years we will see Chumba and Mountain Cycles there too. Just throwing that out there now, not that I have anything against these brands, just they are on the Iron Horse train it seems, and that ends up down the line parked with the Schwinn and Mongoose train.
    Try this: HTFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    in three years we will see Chumba and Mountain Cycles there too. Just throwing that out there now, not that I have anything against these brands, just they are on the Iron Horse train it seems, and that ends up down the line parked with the Schwinn and Mongoose train.




    Add Vassago to that list.

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    Walmart would never...

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    Add Vassago to that list.
    ...carry a bike line with "ass" anywhere in the name. For the children dontcha know.

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    Iron Horse was snatched up by Dorel so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
    Me. The chosen one. They chose me. And I didn't even graduate from fu**ing high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofannon View Post
    Iron Horse was snatched up by Dorel so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
    Dorel has quite the name umbrella right now. Really sad how many civilians are fooled thinking they are buying a quality product from the original company.

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    OP, you get repped for admitting you were ,ummm, shopping for bikes a Walley World.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CasteelG View Post
    You mean the people who get mad at people making fun of department store bikes leave and make their own forums that are mainly based around bashing this forum and bashing people who buy expensive bikes?

    Wee!
    Well said - I can't figure out whether this is infinite wisdom, tautology or both

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
    Saw three models of Iron Horse 29er at Walmart just now. Two are full suspension. One is hardtail.
    Pictures or links not all of us have a Wally world to visit to see such goodness

    Downunder our version of Wally world is "Big W" where our 29er of choice is the Diamondback Overdrive29 74cm Mens Mountain Bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitzikatzi View Post
    Pictures or links not all of us have a Wally world to visit to see such goodness
    Next time I will try and grab some photos. Honestly, I had thought about it yesterday, but was too embarrassed at the thought of wrestling one of the bikes off the display rack (they are the pull out racks in which the bikes tend to get tangled with each other), and then setting it up on the floor and shooting a photo, and then repeating three times. There is almost always a salesperson hovering around the bike aisle too.

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    The Sinister 6.5 was the high-end model on display:

    Sinister 6.5

    Also present were the Sinister 6.3 and the Yakuza 5.1 hardtail:

    Sinister 6.3
    Yakuza 5.1

    I'm uncertain about rear suspension at that price, but the frames actually looked pretty decent.

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    I love this quote,

    "Step up to the pinnacle of performance with a Sinister 6.5."


    I guess the "pinnacle of performance" includes 28mm fork stanchion tubes.



    These bikes do have a place however small in the MTB scheme of things, if nothing else it may ignite the "passion" in someone who might otherwise never have the opportunity to give the sport a try. Flame away.
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    Let me preface this by saying that I work at a large sporting goods chain as their bike tech so I've seen a few of these level of bikes.
    They are what they are... I don't think people are buying these thinking other wise (or I hope not anyways...)
    My concern is the the quality of assembly... I've come across some down right frightening builds in those situations....

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre View Post
    Let me preface this by saying that I work at a large sporting goods chain as their bike tech so I've seen a few of these level of bikes.
    They are what they are... I don't think people are buying these thinking other wise (or I hope not anyways...)
    My concern is the the quality of assembly... I've come across some down right frightening builds in those situations....
    My brother in law bought a wally world bike a few years ago, THE FORK WAS MOUNTED BACKWARDS.
    I chewed him out for buying it in the first place then spent about 30 min fixing and adjusting everything.
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    Geez...remember when Iron Horse had the DW-Link, and then was going to use the ICT (Ellsworth) system on their bikes? I actually had a DW-Link Iron Horse and it was a nice bike, shame they ended up where they are now.

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    I think it's safe to say that any department store bike will need a full reassembly.

    ...And I think any sort of suspension at that price range is going to be more of a hindrance than help on the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
    The Sinister 6.5 was the high-end model on display:

    Sinister 6.5

    Also present were the Sinister 6.3 and the Yakuza 5.1 hardtail:

    Sinister 6.3
    Yakuza 5.1

    I'm uncertain about rear suspension at that price, but the frames actually looked pretty decent.
    That does indeed look pretty sinister

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    You mean the same Dorel

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    Dorel has quite the name umbrella right now. Really sad how many civilians are fooled thinking they are buying a quality product from the original company.
    ...that also owns Cannondale and other names?

    Recreational/Leisure

    In 2004, Dorel became one of the largest marketers of recreational products in North America with its acquisition of Pacific Cycle, a leader in the design, marketing and distribution of high quality branded bicycles and other recreational products. In February 2008, Dorel purchased the Cannondale Bicycle Company and SUGOI Performance Apparel, furthering its goal to become a preeminent global bicycle company.

    The Recreational/Leisure segment comprises three distinct operating divisions: The Cycling Sports Group (CSG) division which deals specifically with the Independent Bicycle Dealers (IBD) channel; the Pacific Cycle division which deals with the mass merchant and sporting goods channel; and the Apparel Footwear Group (AFG) which incorporates the SUGOI, Cannondale, GT, Schwinn, IronHorse and Mongoose apparel lines.
    Dorel markets its Recreational/Leisure products under the Cannondale, Schwinn, GT, Mongoose, IronHorse, SUGOI, Pacific, Dyno, RoadMaster, PowerLite and InSTEP brand names. Please click on the logos below for more information on the products available under each brand.
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    It is sad to see brands bought up, gutted and sold as crap at wal mart. But the majority of kids will be riding cheap bikes.

    When I was a kid we didn't have much money and I got a Tektron brand bicycle from the PX. I loved the hell out of that thing and road it for years. In hindsight yes the brakes did fail on my once and I did ride directly into the side of moving car and went over the hood, but it was a memorable experience.

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    The shop I am with dropped GT this year after carrying the brand for the last 10, basically since we opened.

    Why? Because Dorel started supplying them to a bigbox sports retailer here in Canada (Sportchek.ca).

    It was a sad decision for us as we had a a great relationship with the brand but as a small(ish) LBS we cannot compete with a bigbox when it comes to buying power (and consequently retail price).

    We are watching Cannondale as well, and my gut feeling is not good..... boy I hope I'm wrong on that one though.

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    I saw this the other day. Also noticed the rear der on one was sram x5. Not shabby for a big box bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    "Available Sizes: Medium"
    Yeah, I looked at their geo chart too. Interesting, their "medium" more or less corresponds to a size large from brands like Specialized. Top tube is 620mm and seat tube is 19 inches. That's a step up from a lot of the 26er bikes at Walmart, so it does sort of give buyers a choice.

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    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride. The trigger shifters are smooth, brakes are 160mm disc front and rear. fork is a rockshox. For the money, the frame is beefy and the welds look good. I'm sure components will fail, but that just means I get to upgrade. If you have any questions about it, please ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride.
    Cool! Post up now and then. I am genuinely curious how the bike works out long term.

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    The only only place ope today was Walmart and I wanted to get the Joby Gorillapod and couldn't wait. Cruised over to the bicycle section and...


    The full suspension 29er...

    And


    The Yakuza 29er hardtail

    The frame looks ok. The rest of the components are crap. I suppose it could be made better with some eBay-sourced components.
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    Wow, they really dug deep into the parts bin to outfit cheap IH's. But whoever buys them has never heard of Iron Horse before so does it really matter? Ugh that crank set makes me wanna puke
    but everything else seems OK for 300 bucks

    and yeah I really think Dorel will start making big box Cannondales.
    Can you blame them? C Dale ran itself into the ground, nobody TOLD THEM
    to make motorcycles. Whose big idea was that? Dorel can do anything
    they want. Like that couple who moved in down the street (you know them)
    who stopped mowing the lawn and let the house go. Same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride. The trigger shifters are smooth, brakes are 160mm disc front and rear. fork is a rockshox. For the money, the frame is beefy and the welds look good. I'm sure components will fail, but that just means I get to upgrade. If you have any questions about it, please ask.
    I really get to wonder if "disc brakes" and a rockshox fork speak for the quality of a bike, there are of course lots of both of those components out there. Also knowing that components will fail is not really my idea of fun. I know that even highend components can fail or breakdown, but I myself "feel" a bit more secure on the trails if I know Im riding on "good" parts.How much more expensive is a bike with Deore/x.5 parts and a Suntour Epicon/RS Tora fork? What is a bike worth if its just sitting in the garage cause its broke and its not really worth fixing?

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    I'll keep you guys posted on how she goes. I did 8 miles yesterday and compared to the $88 walmart special, this thing is a dream to ride, but i've never ridden a trek or cannondale so I really don't have a basis to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I'll keep you guys posted on how she goes. I did 8 miles yesterday and compared to the $88 walmart special, this thing is a dream to ride,
    Eight miles is good, especially when just getting back into biking after a several-years hiatus.

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    commuter HT?

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    I'll admit I bought sh*t. But right now I don't have the means to drop $1k on a bike, so half loaf is better than no loaf

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    Iron horse "A" frame hardtail was my first real mtb in the early 90's
    sad to hear they are in walmart ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I'll admit I bought sh*t. But right now I don't have the means to drop $1k on a bike, so half loaf is better than no loaf
    Don't let it get you down, your new bike will let you know if its worth purchasing into a reputable bike later on Enjoy the ride.

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    I know it's not the best out there, but it certainly isn't the worst! I really do like this frame and I'm a gadget-type of guy so upgrading parts is fun for me. Like I said, the welds are diesel and the frame feels very solid. I am enjoying this bike so far and as long as I don't beat the piss out of it, I think I'll be okay.

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    They do look somewhat tempting...for my wife that is...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I know it's not the best out there, but it certainly isn't the worst! I really do like this frame and I'm a gadget-type of guy so upgrading parts is fun for me. Like I said, the welds are diesel and the frame feels very solid. I am enjoying this bike so far and as long as I don't beat the piss out of it, I think I'll be okay.
    It's cool. If it gets you out on the trails and riding then it's all good till you can afford better!
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    Just make sure it has been put together properly so it is safe. For $50 you may just want to pay your local bike shop to go over it.
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    it actually doesn't look terrible for the price - my first real MTB was an Iron Horse...

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    The forks get set up backwards because that's how they fit the frames into the box.
    The caged bearings are under greased and the cones are so tight the axels spin with the rims.

    It took me about an hour to properly set up my daughters hard tail 29 ers

    They ride fairly well for Altus grade components. The soft tails have a mere spring for a rear suspension.

    My fox float shock cost more than these bikes.

    If they had a fixed fork 29er that fit me well, I would be tempted to set one up with mid grade parts. The frames seem fine. Most of the stems, bars, brakes and seat posts look like clones of name brand designs. The wheels are holding up for 15 year old curb hopping. The kenda tires are good to go.

    1980-1990 Kmart bikes were far crappier.

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    Sinister 6.5

    To all you experts out there. Just wondering if this would be a good bike to get to try out a couple things I want. First is a full suspension bike. Right now I ride a mid ninties GT avalanche. I have upgraded it over the years. Next thing I want to try is a 29er. What are the thoughts on this. I don't ride very hard but we do ride trails in the mountains. I have kids that ride and just upgraded to 24 inchers so Im sure they will be going all out this year. Thanks

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    Looking at the Sinister I dont think it is trail capable. Maybe the normal gravel/dirt bike path but not a real trail. That coil shock doesn't have any type of adjustment to it, you'd just bounce and pogo around. Not to mention department store bikes are not really meant for any serious off road riding.

    The Yakuza HT might be a better choice.
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    Well I can imagine that bike is a piece of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcal22 View Post
    Well I can imagine that bike is a piece of crap.
    I'd like to try one. Can't afford to buy it as just an experiment though.

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    Dude, I'm going to buy one and sink 1500 in it to get it up to the level of a normal $900 bike!

    ...Well, not really, but I haven't seen one of those posts yet.

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    Ran across this raleigh bad boy in india last week

    not bad.
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    They are a good deal. To buy a no-name frame off the net will cost you as much. Mod to taste. Ride till your legs fall off.
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    saw this at TargetIron Horse at Walmart-imageuploadedbytapatalk1336150719.551228.jpg another fork mounted backasswards!!!
    29er from now on!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robpad View Post
    saw this at TargetClick image for larger version. 

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    Its a trail-reducing fork.
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    I work at Target part-time, for the $300 I think the Rival is pretty worth it...
    I was thinking of getting one for friends who want to try out mountain biking(or out of town friends/family) & put on all the hand-me-down parts from my bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by robpad View Post
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    & I DO know how to put them together lol

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    Enjoy your ride, whatever it is.
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    I think theyre just bashing the "Not for off-road use" sticker on a MTB. IDK, maybe the IH doesnt have the sticker. I looked at my LWM (Local Wal Mart) and they didnt have any in stock.

    I think theres good points to both sides, but being in the market for a used bike for my weezy Id rather spend $300 on a decent CL find than a "BBB". Unless for some reason the weezy says,"THIS IS THE BIKE I NEEEEEED!" At that point I'll just grin & bear it.
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    I understand but he was kinda happy about it and ppl started bashing and then he was like well I know it's not blah blah blah and I thought it was messed up! But if you buy a used bike of cl and it breaks you get no relief from the seller! Walmart on the other hand has a 90 day warranty and 20 bucks for a 2 year warranty which they will send any parts that do break lol! I see both sides but it was just the fact about someone trying to get back in the riding game then to be met with bashing comments! And to think these are adults that may have children cough cough if any

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    I understand the temptation of a wally world 29". I bought one. It was a Mongoose Deception.
    I took it back the next day.
    Mine had disk brakes, and the front rim was out of true about 14mm side-to-side. No need for the rim to be true for a disk, right? So why not? I also spent some time just looking the bike over that evening. The more I looked, the less I liked it. They took it back with no hassle.

    I also looked at the single speed fixte they had (red frame and yellow tires). Looked good from a distance. Up close, the frame was kind of rough. Also had those super cheap side pull brakes from like 1976. You remember those chrome sheet-metal steel things? Ugh!

    I ended up with a entry level mountain bike from craigslist for $200. It took more patience than buying a wally world bike on the way home from work.

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    I too bought the deception at one point and I took it back as well. I must say the ironhorses are a better bike! In my OPINION. We will see when I put some serious miles on it! So far I have about 90-100 miles and the only thing I had to adjust was the rear brake. Keeps rubbing an creating resistance while riding. Other then that not to badd

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    Dude, I saw your thread @ BBB, go troll somewhere else. Your just here trying to stir up trouble.

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    Dude no ones talking to you! Trolling over at bbb lol please guy! I was actually talking and I wasn't trying to stir anything! Just think some ppl are asses plain and simple! Funny thing is ppl could spend whatever they want! Sure I could go drop 1000-1500 on a bike but what if I ride only a few times a week if that? Or I change my mind and say its not for me? I'd be out that much money. Now that I have a bike which I only spent 300 I'm not out an I can pretty much take it back when ever and if I do like the sport I can upgrade or buy a better bike! So get off my nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RK View Post
    Dude no ones talking to you! Trolling over at bbb lol please guy! I was actually talking and I wasn't trying to stir anything! Just think some ppl are asses plain and simple! Funny thing is ppl could spend whatever they want! Sure I could go drop 1000-1500 on a bike but what if I ride only a few times a week if that? Or I change my mind and say its not for me? I'd be out that much money. Now that I have a bike which I only spent 300 I'm not out an I can pretty much take it back when ever and if I do like the sport I can upgrade or buy a better bike! So get off my nuts


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    "I was over at mtbr where someone bought a ironhorse sinister 6.5 and the members started bashing him! So in return I wrote this to them;After reading some of the posts it truly is a laughing matter! Dude bought a bike from a bb store which I have and my brother and for the money not bad at all! Seeing as this will be my first an last post at this forum! I'm pretty sure most If not all having nothin better to do then bash someone from buying a bb bike to get back in to riding. Sad them some ppl come here for advice or some good points! Instead met with *******s that talk down to them! What a joke! Seems pretty childish and down right RUDE! Anybody that has got a bbb come over to BIGBOXBIKES.COM"

    Trying to start a board war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RK View Post
    Dude no ones talking to you! Trolling over at bbb lol please guy! I was actually talking and I wasn't trying to stir anything! Just think some ppl are asses plain and simple! Funny thing is ppl could spend whatever they want! Sure I could go drop 1000-1500 on a bike but what if I ride only a few times a week if that? Or I change my mind and say its not for me? I'd be out that much money. Now that I have a bike which I only spent 300 I'm not out an I can pretty much take it back when ever and if I do like the sport I can upgrade or buy a better bike! So get off my nuts


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    Yea it is! Sad when you can go through half of this forum and it's members bashing other members just by simply what bike they ride! Lol board war? You really do have no life if it's that big of a deal lol I hate to see you have a problem in REAL LIFE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RK View Post
    Yea it is! Sad when you can go through half of this forum and it's members bashing other members just by simply what bike they ride! Lol board war? You really do have no life if it's that big of a deal lol I hate to see you have a problem in REAL LIFE!



    Really? Half? I digress, most of the members here are more than courteous and willing to help. Enjoy the rest of your short stay here.

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    Are you in denial? Any post mentioning a bbb there is bashing! Every single time. Not hard to be blind but ignorant I can believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RK View Post
    Are you in denial? Any post mentioning a bbb there is bashing! Every single time. Not hard to be blind but ignorant I can believe.




    Yeah thanks for the insults. Here is the latest bbb thread, please note the bashing.

    costco 29er.

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    Give it time sure one of your members can't resist. Anyway seeing as this is going way way off topic, I said my peace as others have and continue to see/use some of the helpful reviews/advice some of the users post!

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    Just so you know i started the Costco thread. I am a supermoderator and I think I spoke quite well of the bike.

    I mean I know they are all butt hurt over at BBB because I told them to stop responding back to the people that they felt were denigrating them and I closed the thread in the recycle bin after it had over a 1000 posts but if you want to stay here I suggest that you either refrain from responding to those that have a differing point than yours or expect to get hassled by people.

    Many of those responding have more than decades of experience with bikes. Myself i started on a $300 bike in 1985. If you are new to sport and enjoy yourself there is no reason to judge those with more experience but it might do you well to listen to their experience.

    As usual I have said this to multiple people that run off from MTBR because it is elitist and people spend $1000 on their bikes but can't even work on them or whatever vitriol they are currently spreading over there.

    There is nothing wrong with riding a deception or a sinister or whatever, however at a certain point your time and money will be better spent stepping up to a higher level bike with bike shop support so that the rubbing brakes and failing BB etc, problems with the ~$200 price point bikes goes away and if there is problems your only recourse is to not just return the bike but have it repaired by a knowledgeable bicycle repair person with years of experience and training.

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    I rode a few miles yesterday with my brother and his friends, who has a Ironhorse full suspension 29er.
    The front fork is seized up. I backed the preload out almost all the way just to get it to move. Didn't have time, but I was tempted to completely dissassemble it to figure out what was wrong with it. I rode it around the yard a bit before we headed to the trail, and other than the fork not working, and the rear "shock" being just a spring, it seemed OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robpad View Post
    saw this at TargetClick image for larger version. 

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    Ah here is the thread I was looking for...

    Came across this same bike at my local Target and it's fork was mounted backwards as well. Coincidence?

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    Can't be the same as they don't sell ironhorse at target!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RK View Post
    Can't be the same as they don't sell ironhorse at target!
    Well the bike he quoted was a Target Schwinn anyways you idiot
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    Thread clearly states IronHorse idiot! As well as what the guy posted above! READ or should I spell it out R E A D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronism View Post
    Ah here is the thread I was looking for...

    Came across this same bike at my local Target and it's fork was mounted backwards as well. Coincidence?
    Click the picture and its clearly a Schwinn
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    Well the picture didnt quote but its post #74
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    Mistake didn't realize they went from a ironhorse to talking about the lousy target assemblers. Lmao

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    Yes they did..
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    Anybody buying from a bbb needs to go over the entire bike anyways bc there is always something put on wrong or not right enough. I actually talked to a assembler at Walmart an he said on average he does about 40 bikes and has to put together grills lol.

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    resident jack of all trades I see...
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    Multi tasking.....

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    To say the least, also they rotate stores so it could be a number of ppl. O a side note I think everyone who buys a bike should go over it from where ever they buy it. Not only to check but get a understanding of ones bike.

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    When I purchased my ironhorse years ago from Dick's I was skeptical about the quality. Now they must really be junk...

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    Ironhorse Sinister 6.3

    I have been mountain biking for many years but do not have a budjet to spent more than 500$ on a bike. I have always wanted a full suspension 29er so I bought one of these bikes from wallmart knowing full well the components were cheap. I have ridden this bike all last summer on Timpanogos mountain and here is what I can tell you:
    The rear triangle has about a 2 inch flex that causes the chain to fly all over the place especially on downhills.
    The rear shock is garbage and is worse than having a hardtail. (I switched mine out for a chaser with oil dampening for 35$ @eBay a huge and cheap upgrade)
    The disc brakes are dangerous and should have a recall issued on them. I had to bail and jump off the bike when the caliper broke. (Switched the calipers for Hayes calipers)
    The suntour xct fork is OK if your a beginner. ( I switched mine out for a Rockshox dart 3 80$ on eBay)
    Bottom bracket and crankset are OK for beginners (still need to switch em out)
    The rims have stayed true and have had no problems with the hubs
    I like the tires the bike came with
    The lock grips are cool
    The stock handlebar probably weighs 5lbs. (Switched mine for a bontrager)
    Just noticed one of the disc rotors is slightly warped
    I like the seat and seatpost
    I love the fit of the bike, I'm 6'0" and the bike fits me perfect
    With the setup I have now the bike only weighs 35lbs which is not superb but for the price is decent.
    The bottom line: I really enjoy this bike after the many upgrades I made to it. The frame and geometry fits me very well, and despite its weaknesses is still very fun to ride. I would recommend this bike for beginners and maybe some intermediate riders if upgrades are to be made. I would seriously consider a used 29er with better everything for 500-1000$ if your budget permits. When it comes to racing or competition with friends I bust out my GT LTS-1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitzikatzi View Post
    Pictures or links not all of us have a Wally world to visit to see such goodness

    Downunder our version of Wally world is "Big W" where our 29er of choice is the Diamondback Overdrive29 74cm Mens Mountain Bike
    Thats interesting, i thought our version was K-Mart.....
    I assumed K-mart was Walmart.
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    Just a side note. Some discount stores use "handicapped" people to do assembly because the get a tax credit for hiring and they can pay these people "piece rate". In other words, they do not have to pay them hourly. Thats fine, but most of this stuff is crap and takes longer then the mfr. recommends to assemble. Just another way big business gives it back to the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Thats interesting, i thought our version was K-Mart.....
    I assumed K-mart was Walmart.
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    Walmart

    You say Potato I say Potatoe. Tone we don't really have an equivalent shop to Wally World down under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
    The Sinister 6.5 was the high-end model on display:

    Sinister 6.5

    Also present were the Sinister 6.3 and the Yakuza 5.1 hardtail:

    Sinister 6.3
    Yakuza 5.1

    I'm uncertain about rear suspension at that price, but the frames actually looked pretty decent.
    Love the spec's page for the sinister 6.5, rear shock coil spring with extra body.

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    ironhorse was bought out and is now a department store bike ever since sport chek got their hands on them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas View Post
    Dorel has quite the name umbrella right now. Really sad how many civilians are fooled thinking they are buying a quality product from the original company.
    CTS may be the acquisition.

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    Yes its true this bike is prety crappy. How do I know that? Because I own bought one a few months ago. It was originally a Ironhorse sinister 6.3 but since this bike is pretty much custom i put a 6.7. I bought this bike because my friends intoduced me to the sport. They all ride nice super light 2500 bikes. Thats def. Not the budget i was in specially since i wasnt even into the sport. My first ride was great. I had a blast on the singletracks and instantly clicked with the sport. I ate sh*t a few times since i was trying to keep up with my buddies. Im now an addict to ride every day, even more than my friends that got me into this. Its awsome.
    About the bike well, the first thing to go were the handle bars and stem. They were to cheap to withsatnd all the rocks/ boulders and small drops. Replacedthem with double wall azonic handlebars and stem is now a 40mm long. Much shorter than the one it previously had. Totall for that was 100 bucks. Then i replaced the brakes since i broke and nearly killed me coming down the mtn. With the heat from all the braking the alluminum became weaker and broke. That caused me to eat **** and seperate my clavical. Tor all three ligiments that keep the clavical in place now **** just stays popped up. i now have avid bb7 160mm rear and 180mm front that stop me on a dime. Also put the jagwire cable and houseing to go with the brakes. Shifters never broke but i replaced them as well with Sram x-7 and rear derailleur as well. Since i bought 9speed shifters i had to replace the cassette and thats also from sram. I went ahead and replaced the wheels because the rear hub was bent and the bearings got out of place. Luckly i got some Wtb fx23 with sram hubs for a real good deal. Oh also bought a 9speed sram chain. Fml shits so expensive. No i know why people invest in expensive bikes. Forks have acually held up really good considering the fact that they are meant for simple trails and not for the agresive singletracks and dh ive taken them on. Im sure they will break on me soon the rear suspensions is shity to. I have yet to ride a 2500 bike but my lil beater ride pretty smooth now. Saving up for a Norco shinobi. The one good thing that i like about this bike is the frame and i must say its pretty good for all its been through. Ill post some picks soon. Ill later put a link to some videos once i upload them to youtube. Youll be suprised what this " SHITY" Walmart bike can do.

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    I read that once every year Walmart has a huge "open house" at some headquarters. Where companies go and "beg" to lower their standards, mass produce garbage and sell it at walmart. Troy Built, John Deere, Schwinn, Mongoose etc.......... Anyone that works at an LBS knows the difference between China and Walmart China. It's their own exclusive brand of crap.

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    I personally love all the posts about buying one of these pieces of junk then replacing every part on them and then braggin about how great the bike is.

    Why not get on craigslist or E-bay and pick up a quality frame used and then build it up? In the end you'll have a better product, you won't have paid money for crap that you will throw away, and it will actually have some resale value.

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    I've always had a fear of bikes from big box stores, but it's always been of the people assembling them rather than the bikes themselves. Today at Wal-Mart on Treasury Dr. in Cleveland, TN I saw this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spec7 View Post
    I've always had a fear of bikes from big box stores, but it's always been of the people assembling them rather than the bikes themselves. Today at Wal-Mart on Treasury Dr. in Cleveland, TN I saw this:
    Well, it is Clevegas.

    (Don't mean to date myself, but I remember they days when the WalMart was in the Tractor Supply building on Keith St......)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhxChem View Post
    Well, it is Clevegas.

    (Don't mean to date myself, but I remember they days when the WalMart was in the Tractor Supply building on Keith St......)
    Before I discovered Scott's bikes, I used to buy tire tubes at the Rose's across the street from the old Wally World. The bike dept was right next to the hunting dept where they sold Chinese SKS 7.62mm rifles right off the shelf. Don't worry about dating yourself; I'm old and know it!

    Wal-Mart is trying to follow up about this assembly though. They left me a voice mail earlier this week about it & I've not had a chance to call them back yet.

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    Hello everyone, new guy here, but I found this forum quite pleasant and joined. So about the sinister 6.5, I have had one for the last 3ish months now, i BEAT THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF IT EVERY WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY!!! My God the color is barely green anymore. But she is still going, maintenance does wonders. But yes their are things that need to be upgraded like the rear suspension (now a fox float) and crank (raceface). there's another $415.00 in those two alone. My rims are now getting really out of shape, but hey blue sky cycles has a 29er set for $230.00 on sale. big whoop!!

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