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    Iron Horse at Walmart

    Saw three models of Iron Horse 29er at Walmart just now. Two are full suspension. One is hardtail.


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    See! I told you all the end of the world was coming. No one takes me seriously.

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    I remember the last Walmart 29er thread. Gosh, I hope this one goes the same way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jnthomps08 View Post
    I remember the last Walmart 29er thread. Gosh, I hope this one goes the same way!
    You mean the people who get mad at people making fun of department store bikes leave and make their own forums that are mainly based around bashing this forum and bashing people who buy expensive bikes?

    Wee!

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    Honestly, I was tempted to throw down for one. Mostly though, it is just interesting to see the wheel size hitting the mainstream.

    The bike that really and truly tempts me is that single speed Thruster in yellow and red.


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    in three years we will see Chumba and Mountain Cycles there too. Just throwing that out there now, not that I have anything against these brands, just they are on the Iron Horse train it seems, and that ends up down the line parked with the Schwinn and Mongoose train.
    Try this: HTFU

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    in three years we will see Chumba and Mountain Cycles there too. Just throwing that out there now, not that I have anything against these brands, just they are on the Iron Horse train it seems, and that ends up down the line parked with the Schwinn and Mongoose train.




    Add Vassago to that list.

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    Walmart would never...

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    Add Vassago to that list.
    ...carry a bike line with "ass" anywhere in the name. For the children dontcha know.

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    Iron Horse was snatched up by Dorel so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
    Me. The chosen one. They chose me. And I didn't even graduate from fu**ing high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofannon View Post
    Iron Horse was snatched up by Dorel so this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
    Dorel has quite the name umbrella right now. Really sad how many civilians are fooled thinking they are buying a quality product from the original company.

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    OP, you get repped for admitting you were ,ummm, shopping for bikes a Walley World.
    I'm a ******bag in real life so I dont have to be one on the interwebz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CasteelG View Post
    You mean the people who get mad at people making fun of department store bikes leave and make their own forums that are mainly based around bashing this forum and bashing people who buy expensive bikes?

    Wee!
    Well said - I can't figure out whether this is infinite wisdom, tautology or both

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
    Saw three models of Iron Horse 29er at Walmart just now. Two are full suspension. One is hardtail.
    Pictures or links not all of us have a Wally world to visit to see such goodness

    Downunder our version of Wally world is "Big W" where our 29er of choice is the Diamondback Overdrive29 74cm Mens Mountain Bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitzikatzi View Post
    Pictures or links not all of us have a Wally world to visit to see such goodness
    Next time I will try and grab some photos. Honestly, I had thought about it yesterday, but was too embarrassed at the thought of wrestling one of the bikes off the display rack (they are the pull out racks in which the bikes tend to get tangled with each other), and then setting it up on the floor and shooting a photo, and then repeating three times. There is almost always a salesperson hovering around the bike aisle too.

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    The Sinister 6.5 was the high-end model on display:

    Sinister 6.5

    Also present were the Sinister 6.3 and the Yakuza 5.1 hardtail:

    Sinister 6.3
    Yakuza 5.1

    I'm uncertain about rear suspension at that price, but the frames actually looked pretty decent.

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    I love this quote,

    "Step up to the pinnacle of performance with a Sinister 6.5."


    I guess the "pinnacle of performance" includes 28mm fork stanchion tubes.



    These bikes do have a place however small in the MTB scheme of things, if nothing else it may ignite the "passion" in someone who might otherwise never have the opportunity to give the sport a try. Flame away.
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    Let me preface this by saying that I work at a large sporting goods chain as their bike tech so I've seen a few of these level of bikes.
    They are what they are... I don't think people are buying these thinking other wise (or I hope not anyways...)
    My concern is the the quality of assembly... I've come across some down right frightening builds in those situations....

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre View Post
    Let me preface this by saying that I work at a large sporting goods chain as their bike tech so I've seen a few of these level of bikes.
    They are what they are... I don't think people are buying these thinking other wise (or I hope not anyways...)
    My concern is the the quality of assembly... I've come across some down right frightening builds in those situations....
    My brother in law bought a wally world bike a few years ago, THE FORK WAS MOUNTED BACKWARDS.
    I chewed him out for buying it in the first place then spent about 30 min fixing and adjusting everything.
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    Geez...remember when Iron Horse had the DW-Link, and then was going to use the ICT (Ellsworth) system on their bikes? I actually had a DW-Link Iron Horse and it was a nice bike, shame they ended up where they are now.

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    I think it's safe to say that any department store bike will need a full reassembly.

    ...And I think any sort of suspension at that price range is going to be more of a hindrance than help on the trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
    The Sinister 6.5 was the high-end model on display:

    Sinister 6.5

    Also present were the Sinister 6.3 and the Yakuza 5.1 hardtail:

    Sinister 6.3
    Yakuza 5.1

    I'm uncertain about rear suspension at that price, but the frames actually looked pretty decent.
    That does indeed look pretty sinister

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    You mean the same Dorel

    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas View Post
    Dorel has quite the name umbrella right now. Really sad how many civilians are fooled thinking they are buying a quality product from the original company.
    ...that also owns Cannondale and other names?

    Recreational/Leisure

    In 2004, Dorel became one of the largest marketers of recreational products in North America with its acquisition of Pacific Cycle, a leader in the design, marketing and distribution of high quality branded bicycles and other recreational products. In February 2008, Dorel purchased the Cannondale Bicycle Company and SUGOI Performance Apparel, furthering its goal to become a preeminent global bicycle company.

    The Recreational/Leisure segment comprises three distinct operating divisions: The Cycling Sports Group (CSG) division which deals specifically with the Independent Bicycle Dealers (IBD) channel; the Pacific Cycle division which deals with the mass merchant and sporting goods channel; and the Apparel Footwear Group (AFG) which incorporates the SUGOI, Cannondale, GT, Schwinn, IronHorse and Mongoose apparel lines.
    Dorel markets its Recreational/Leisure products under the Cannondale, Schwinn, GT, Mongoose, IronHorse, SUGOI, Pacific, Dyno, RoadMaster, PowerLite and InSTEP brand names. Please click on the logos below for more information on the products available under each brand.
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    It is sad to see brands bought up, gutted and sold as crap at wal mart. But the majority of kids will be riding cheap bikes.

    When I was a kid we didn't have much money and I got a Tektron brand bicycle from the PX. I loved the hell out of that thing and road it for years. In hindsight yes the brakes did fail on my once and I did ride directly into the side of moving car and went over the hood, but it was a memorable experience.

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    "Available Sizes: Medium"
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    The shop I am with dropped GT this year after carrying the brand for the last 10, basically since we opened.

    Why? Because Dorel started supplying them to a bigbox sports retailer here in Canada (Sportchek.ca).

    It was a sad decision for us as we had a a great relationship with the brand but as a small(ish) LBS we cannot compete with a bigbox when it comes to buying power (and consequently retail price).

    We are watching Cannondale as well, and my gut feeling is not good..... boy I hope I'm wrong on that one though.

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    I saw this the other day. Also noticed the rear der on one was sram x5. Not shabby for a big box bike.
    SS ==> Nut up or Shut up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    "Available Sizes: Medium"
    Yeah, I looked at their geo chart too. Interesting, their "medium" more or less corresponds to a size large from brands like Specialized. Top tube is 620mm and seat tube is 19 inches. That's a step up from a lot of the 26er bikes at Walmart, so it does sort of give buyers a choice.

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    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride. The trigger shifters are smooth, brakes are 160mm disc front and rear. fork is a rockshox. For the money, the frame is beefy and the welds look good. I'm sure components will fail, but that just means I get to upgrade. If you have any questions about it, please ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride.
    Cool! Post up now and then. I am genuinely curious how the bike works out long term.

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    The only only place ope today was Walmart and I wanted to get the Joby Gorillapod and couldn't wait. Cruised over to the bicycle section and...


    The full suspension 29er...

    And


    The Yakuza 29er hardtail

    The frame looks ok. The rest of the components are crap. I suppose it could be made better with some eBay-sourced components.
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    Wow, they really dug deep into the parts bin to outfit cheap IH's. But whoever buys them has never heard of Iron Horse before so does it really matter? Ugh that crank set makes me wanna puke
    but everything else seems OK for 300 bucks

    and yeah I really think Dorel will start making big box Cannondales.
    Can you blame them? C Dale ran itself into the ground, nobody TOLD THEM
    to make motorcycles. Whose big idea was that? Dorel can do anything
    they want. Like that couple who moved in down the street (you know them)
    who stopped mowing the lawn and let the house go. Same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I just picked one of these up, the sinister 6.5. I haven't ridden a bike in quite a few years and I wanted to get something to use for exercise mostly. So far, with a good tweaking, everything is ok for the trails I ride. The trigger shifters are smooth, brakes are 160mm disc front and rear. fork is a rockshox. For the money, the frame is beefy and the welds look good. I'm sure components will fail, but that just means I get to upgrade. If you have any questions about it, please ask.
    I really get to wonder if "disc brakes" and a rockshox fork speak for the quality of a bike, there are of course lots of both of those components out there. Also knowing that components will fail is not really my idea of fun. I know that even highend components can fail or breakdown, but I myself "feel" a bit more secure on the trails if I know Im riding on "good" parts.How much more expensive is a bike with Deore/x.5 parts and a Suntour Epicon/RS Tora fork? What is a bike worth if its just sitting in the garage cause its broke and its not really worth fixing?

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    I'll keep you guys posted on how she goes. I did 8 miles yesterday and compared to the $88 walmart special, this thing is a dream to ride, but i've never ridden a trek or cannondale so I really don't have a basis to compare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I'll keep you guys posted on how she goes. I did 8 miles yesterday and compared to the $88 walmart special, this thing is a dream to ride,
    Eight miles is good, especially when just getting back into biking after a several-years hiatus.

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    commuter HT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
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    I'll admit I bought sh*t. But right now I don't have the means to drop $1k on a bike, so half loaf is better than no loaf

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    Iron horse "A" frame hardtail was my first real mtb in the early 90's
    sad to hear they are in walmart ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I'll admit I bought sh*t. But right now I don't have the means to drop $1k on a bike, so half loaf is better than no loaf
    Don't let it get you down, your new bike will let you know if its worth purchasing into a reputable bike later on Enjoy the ride.

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    I know it's not the best out there, but it certainly isn't the worst! I really do like this frame and I'm a gadget-type of guy so upgrading parts is fun for me. Like I said, the welds are diesel and the frame feels very solid. I am enjoying this bike so far and as long as I don't beat the piss out of it, I think I'll be okay.

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    They do look somewhat tempting...for my wife that is...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsbma View Post
    I know it's not the best out there, but it certainly isn't the worst! I really do like this frame and I'm a gadget-type of guy so upgrading parts is fun for me. Like I said, the welds are diesel and the frame feels very solid. I am enjoying this bike so far and as long as I don't beat the piss out of it, I think I'll be okay.
    It's cool. If it gets you out on the trails and riding then it's all good till you can afford better!
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    Just make sure it has been put together properly so it is safe. For $50 you may just want to pay your local bike shop to go over it.
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    it actually doesn't look terrible for the price - my first real MTB was an Iron Horse...

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    The forks get set up backwards because that's how they fit the frames into the box.
    The caged bearings are under greased and the cones are so tight the axels spin with the rims.

    It took me about an hour to properly set up my daughters hard tail 29 ers

    They ride fairly well for Altus grade components. The soft tails have a mere spring for a rear suspension.

    My fox float shock cost more than these bikes.

    If they had a fixed fork 29er that fit me well, I would be tempted to set one up with mid grade parts. The frames seem fine. Most of the stems, bars, brakes and seat posts look like clones of name brand designs. The wheels are holding up for 15 year old curb hopping. The kenda tires are good to go.

    1980-1990 Kmart bikes were far crappier.

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    Sinister 6.5

    To all you experts out there. Just wondering if this would be a good bike to get to try out a couple things I want. First is a full suspension bike. Right now I ride a mid ninties GT avalanche. I have upgraded it over the years. Next thing I want to try is a 29er. What are the thoughts on this. I don't ride very hard but we do ride trails in the mountains. I have kids that ride and just upgraded to 24 inchers so Im sure they will be going all out this year. Thanks

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    Looking at the Sinister I dont think it is trail capable. Maybe the normal gravel/dirt bike path but not a real trail. That coil shock doesn't have any type of adjustment to it, you'd just bounce and pogo around. Not to mention department store bikes are not really meant for any serious off road riding.

    The Yakuza HT might be a better choice.
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    Well I can imagine that bike is a piece of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xcal22 View Post
    Well I can imagine that bike is a piece of crap.
    I'd like to try one. Can't afford to buy it as just an experiment though.

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    Dude, I'm going to buy one and sink 1500 in it to get it up to the level of a normal $900 bike!

    ...Well, not really, but I haven't seen one of those posts yet.

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