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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    Do it already!!! Massive improvement over my 2013 Fox 34 Float 140mm. This fork is superbly supple, almost coil like. Also unlike my Fox 34, you can use all the travel on this fork. I moved the slider indicator all the up to the top of the stanchion on some bigger drops and jumps. With the Fox 34 I could never use all the exposed stanchion although I don't think you can on this particular fork even without air in it.

    The stanchion length is pretty identical on the Pike vs. Fox 34, but the crown/steerer junction is much taller on the Fox and that makes up the difference in A-C length between the two.

    Also for you people on the fence about going with the 140 or 150, compared to my Fox 34 140mm Float...

    The Pike 150mm 51mm offset is approximately 7mm shorter than the Fox 34 in terms of Axle to Crown measurements. So it is like 10mm free travel, especially if you are already running a Fox 34 140mm.

    Also the Pike 150mm weighs 4.3 lbs with full length uncut steerer, crown race and axle vs. 4.57 lbs for the Fox 34 with trimmed steerer, crown race and axle.

    So take my advice, get it and while you're at it get the 150mm too.

    I also have a Pike in 140mm 51mm offset that I plan on using on my Ripley when it comes in. I'll have to compare it versus the Fox 34 and 140mm Revelation that I have when I start the build.

    Also, what's a thread about new gear without pics? Useless.

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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    First of all, SICK bike.

    I haven't had any Pike time, but am loving the new Fox 34. I know just about all they did was change the spring rate, but it feels like a completely different fork when compared to my 2013.

    I'm sure the Pike is awesome, just sayin' that the 2013 Fox 34 wasn't quite up to par with most things Fox has put out.

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    Yes, I felt the need to specify it was a 2013 Fox. I hope they got things right in 2014 because now they have some competition with the Pike and Trace, unlike in years before when they were the only 34mm+ fork in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    First of all, SICK bike.

    I haven't had any Pike time, but am loving the new Fox 34. I know just about all they did was change the spring rate, but it feels like a completely different fork when compared to my 2013.

    I'm sure the Pike is awesome, just sayin' that the 2013 Fox 34 wasn't quite up to par with most things Fox has put out.
    P.S. your new Rip Alloy is SICK as well.

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    I have a 2012 Fox 34 RLC that isn' t as smooth as I would like. Is the damper similar to the 2013 Fox? Just trying to figure out if the new Pike will fix my problem.

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    In short, yes it will fix your problem. This fork is supremely smooth.

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    I think the Pike looks so freaking cool with the black stanchions (for myself, not showing off)...wish they made a 120mm. My bike is all black as well.
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    Great write up, I'm waiting on some Pikes for my SB95c build, I have some Xfusion Trace 140 RL2's to go on it until August but your report has got me even more sure of my decision to hang on for them

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    I've never ridden a Trace, but I can say that the Pike is worth waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldozer27 View Post
    I have a 2012 Fox 34 RLC that isn' t as smooth as I would like. Is the damper similar to the 2013 Fox? Just trying to figure out if the new Pike will fix my problem.
    If I'm not mistaken you can get the new 2014 internals, might be a cheaper way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I've never ridden a Trace, but I can say that the Pike is worth waiting for.
    I've not ridden it either, my frame should be here next week, it's just a case of me not wanting to wait until I can ride it, so rather than wait until August for when my Pike's arrive I thought I'd put the Trace's on for now, that and I'm no longer impressed with the way Fox forks are currently.

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    Yeah, that 51mm offset will make that stable, slack head angle turn much faster, by reducing the trail. Added benefit is zero wheel/toe overlap.

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    The Pike is the coolest fork in this gallery:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    If I'm not mistaken you can get the new 2014 internals, might be a cheaper way to go.
    Really? Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Really? Where?
    Directly from Fox Shox.

    If you have 2013 CTD, the upgrade to 2014 CTD is only $60 or so for the parts required. Now going from FIT RLC to CTD will be more expensive.

    FWIW, I'm running a 2012 FIT RLC Float 34 with the new upgraded Float Air spring side and it's much better than my previous stock 2012 FIT RLC Float 34.
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    I've got a 2012 140 talas, will any of these upgrades work for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I've got a 2012 140 talas, will any of these upgrades work for it?
    +2???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I've got a 2012 140 talas, will any of these upgrades work for it?
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    +2???
    Hmm maybe call Fox?
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    Liken the Solo Air 150mm a lot.

    I don't have any time on a Fox 34, coming from a 32 Talas. But so far this Pike is wonderful. Tracks cleanly through the rough. Smooths the small while devouring the big. Zero desire for the Dual Air.

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    Thanks to this thread for pushing me over the edge . Replaced a Fox 34 TALAS RLC Kashima with a Pike 150mm Dual Air and two things were immediately apparent. First, the Fox's Kashima coat is totally overrated and quite possibly worthless. With just basic anodized stanchions, the Pike suffers from none of the stiction issues of the Fox. Second, the Pike's damper is much more smooth and plush throughout the travel compared to the Fox's FIT damper.

    I like this new Pike so much that I'm leaning heavily towards replacing the Fox fork on my hardtail with an RS SID. It even came with an extra seal rebuild kit, although I'm not sure if that's a negative comment on long-term reliability. Also, the white with black stanchions is perfect for my build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldozer27 View Post
    +2???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I also have a Pike in 140mm 51mm offset that I plan on using on my Ripley when it comes in. I'll have to compare it versus the Fox 34 and 140mm Revelation that I have when I start the build.Click image for larger version. 

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    You have Ripley coming also? Isn't that a 120mm travel bike? Can it be fitted with a 140mm fork? I'd like to know how you think the Ripley is compared to the Niner. For some reason the Ripley reminds me of the Tallboy LTc in terms of its looks.

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    I did have a Ripley coming but decided to go with a SB95c instead. The XL Ripley still wasn't available, but the SB95c was at Competitive Cyclist. I have already had a Ripley in size large however and I wouldn't really place it in the same category as the RDO. The RDO feels like a steamroller that will go thru or over anything you so desire. The Ripley however is like a thoroughbred race horse in terms of overall acceleration, but requires you to be a tad more cautious on the descent. Neither is a bad bike, in fact they are both excellent bikes. The SB95c is a nice blend of the 2 and I'm very pleased thus far. I really think the Yeti is the one to beat in this category of "one bike to rule them all". I have mine setup with the same 150mm Pike and a CC DBair.

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    Colin, your killing me with all these awesome bikes! Cant wait to here the review on this one but when are you getting a Devinci to check out?

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    I would be interested in this also...
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    Colin, your killing me with all these awesome bikes! Cant wait to here the review on this one but when are you getting a Devinci to check out?

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    No plans for a Devinci as of now, but never say never

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    Just rode mine.

    It's pretty damn good.
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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    Colin, any chance you've had time on a 2014 Float 34 yet? Wondering if its worth it to sell my fork for the Pike. Also wondering if you've talked to Niner at all about the 150 Pike and their frame warranty policy.

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    How's the clearance out back though Colin? From what I've read none (carbon nor alloy) SB95s have much clearance in the rear, probably enough to run a decent 2.25" at the most. WHat are you running and any issues yet with ST rub?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I did have a Ripley coming but decided to go with a SB95c instead. The XL Ripley still wasn't available, but the SB95c was at Competitive Cyclist. I have already had a Ripley in size large however and I wouldn't really place it in the same category as the RDO. The RDO feels like a steamroller that will go thru or over anything you so desire. The Ripley however is like a thoroughbred race horse in terms of overall acceleration, but requires you to be a tad more cautious on the descent. Neither is a bad bike, in fact they are both excellent bikes. The SB95c is a nice blend of the 2 and I'm very pleased thus far. I really think the Yeti is the one to beat in this category of "one bike to rule them all". I have mine setup with the same 150mm Pike and a CC DBair.
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    Much more than than the alloy version. I am currently running a Ground Control 2.3 on Enve AM's with loads of clearance all the way around. I would say the clearance is on par with the Intense Spider Comp and almost as much as the Tallboy LTc. More than the Ripley and Rip9 RDO(although close).

    It's not Banshee Prime clearance, but I haven't found a carbon bike that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Colin, any chance you've had time on a 2014 Float 34 yet? Wondering if its worth it to sell my fork for the Pike. Also wondering if you've talked to Niner at all about the 150 Pike and their frame warranty policy.
    Have not ridden the supposed "fixed" 2014 version, but I can tell you that it's worth the upgrade from the 2013. I wouldn't replace the 2014 Fox just yet unless you are unhappy with it's performance.

    In terms of running the Pike @150mm on the Niner, I didn't call them on it. Might be worthwhile if planning on doing it long term though. The overall A-C length of my Fox 34 140mm was longer than the Pike 150mm so I figured why not. Maybe I had a weird Fox 34, but it was a good 7mm taller than the Pike.

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    That T29 looks ready for business. Nice bike!

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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Have not ridden the supposed "fixed" 2014 version, but I can tell you that it's worth the upgrade from the 2013. I wouldn't replace the 2014 Fox just yet unless you are unhappy with it's performance.

    In terms of running the Pike @150mm on the Niner, I didn't call them on it. Might be worthwhile if planning on doing it long term though. The overall A-C length of my Fox 34 140mm was longer than the Pike 150mm so I figured why not. Maybe I had a weird Fox 34, but it was a good 7mm taller than the Pike.
    That's odd regarding the AC measurement. I see the Fox 140 at 553 and the 150 Pike at 561.

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    I thought it was odd as well, but if you sit them side by side the Fox definitely is taller. Maybe my Fox fork is an oddball. Of course this could explain why I felt my Ripley handled subpar, I was running 160mm fork on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Just rode mine.

    It's pretty damn good.
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    Go ahead Enel, order one for the Prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Go ahead Enel, order one for the Prime.
    It seems I am due a little something for me
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    You deserve it It really is a great fork and matches up well with the DBair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    It seems I am due a little something for me
    Mine shows up tomorrow, I'll have it on the Prime for thursdays ride. Went 51mm.
    The one I felt up in whistler @ chromag was pretty compelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Mine shows up tomorrow, I'll have it on the Prime for thursdays ride. Went 51mm.
    The one I felt up in whistler @ chromag was pretty compelling.
    Should I get 140 or 150?
    Solo or Dual Air?

    I have never much used Talas type gimmicks on climbs, I just sucked it up and leaned forward. 30mm isn't bad though and we have some steep climbs. Currently running a chopped 36 TALAS with a lot of stiction (I neve use the Talas), ~125-130mm travel, and tons of stiffness. No complaints other than the fork is pretty old and a stanchion creaks.

    I hope the Pike is as stiff, but fail to see how it can be as it is over a pound lighter.
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    You're in for a treat. It's nice to finally have a fork that is supple, smooth, rides high in the travel for pedaling, uses all available travel, point and shoot stiffness and isn't a Manitou Dorado Pro that weighs 7 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    Should I get 140 or 150?
    Solo or Dual Air?

    I have never much used Talas type gimmicks on climbs, I just sucked it up and leaned forward. 30mm isn't bad though and we have some steep climbs. Currently running a chopped 36 TALAS with a lot of stiction (I neve use the Talas), ~125-130mm travel, and tons of stiffness. No complaints other than the fork is pretty old and a stanchion creaks.

    I hope the Pike is as stiff, but fail to see how it can be as it is over a pound lighter.
    I would go 150mm solo air personally, and I did. The additional 10mm of A-C of the 140 vs 150 is nearly negligible sagged, plus the Prime begs for 150mm IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I would go 150mm solo air personally, and I did. The additional 10mm of A-C of the 140 vs 150 is nearly negligible sagged, plus the Prime begs for 150mm IMO.
    Do you still have a Prime in the fleet?
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    Not anymore. I still regret getting rid of it, but I didn't have the extra room in the garage. I'm currently on a Yeti SB95c and it handles itself very similarly to the Prime so that helps ease the pain. If I rode the terrain you do however, I'd have a hard time riding a carbon bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel View Post
    Should I get 140 or 150?
    Solo or Dual Air?
    Everyone who's had both in hand confirms the 150mm Pike is ~7mm shorter than the 140mm Fox 34. There's a 160mm Pike on the way, which should be about the same a2c length as the 140mm fox. That would be a perfect fit for the prime, but reportedly it's months away. Sounds like an air cartridge swap is required to change travel.

    Far as Talas goes, I have only found travel adjust helpful on bikes that squat under power. That has not been an issue for any of the Banshees I've owned, which is one of the reasons I like Banshee.

    So 150mm solo air, or 160mm once it's available!
    The fork offset options are interesting. I opted for 51mm.

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    My 150mm has sag gradient markings on the Stanchion for both 160 and 150mm, so I'm hoping it is convertible to 160mm down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    My 150mm has sag gradient markings on the Stanchion for both 160 and 150mm, so I'm hoping it is convertible to 160mm down the road.
    Thats good news!

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    Tonight's ride at Lunch Loops was the first time my Zocchi has left me wanting...seems I now NEED a Pike!
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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    There's a 160mm Pike on the way, which should be about the same a2c length as the 140mm fox. That would be a perfect fit for the prime, but reportedly it's months away.
    Perfect; I've heard the same. That fits my schedule better, too. I know what I want for Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Perfect; I've heard the same. That fits my schedule better, too. I know what I want for Christmas.
    Kinda what I was thinking


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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Everyone who's had both in hand confirms the 150mm Pike is ~7mm shorter than the 140mm Fox 34. There's a 160mm Pike on the way, which should be about the same a2c length as the 140mm fox. That would be a perfect fit for the prime, but reportedly it's months away. Sounds like an air cartridge swap is required to change travel.

    Far as Talas goes, I have only found travel adjust helpful on bikes that squat under power. That has not been an issue for any of the Banshees I've owned, which is one of the reasons I like Banshee.

    So 150mm solo air, or 160mm once it's available!
    The fork offset options are interesting. I opted for 51mm.
    I just measured the A-C of a Fox 34-140mm at 558mm. Anybody have a measurement on either travel Pike for comparison?

    Buying parts for a Tallboy LTc tomorrow and want to be sure of which fork to get! (140 vs 150)

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    I would like to put a Pike on my Stumpjumper FSR but I'm worried about the climbing capabilities regarding the longer fork. My Fox 32 130 mm has an A-C length of 538 mm, can anybody please post real A-C measurements of the 140 mm Solo Air and the 150-120 mm Dual Position Air Pike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    I would like to put a Pike on my Stumpjumper FSR but I'm worried about the climbing capabilities regarding the longer fork. My Fox 32 130 mm has an A-C length of 538 mm, can anybody please post real A-C measurements of the 140 mm Solo Air and the 150-120 mm Dual Position Air Pike?
    I'm sure it will be fine. I put a 2012 Fox 34 140mm on the front of mine when I had it and as far as climbing, didn't notice a difference. The Pikes supposedly have shorter AC measurements than Fox.
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    As I've said previously, I might have a freak 2013 Fox 34 Float 140mm but it is about 7mm's taller at the crown than my Pike 150mm with them side by side. The Pike 140mm is significantly shorter than the Fox 34 at about 17mm shorter.

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    No, you don't, mine also measures just shy of showing 150mm of stanchion. Not quite sure how or why this came about because in the early years RS had tall A2C forks vs Fox - Fox F100 was 510mm and Reba 100mm was 520mm - now it seems to have been reversed.

    Jack_Steel, all I've read reported is what Colin has said, A2C of the Pike @ 150mm is about the same (little shorter) as the F34 @ 140mm. The bigger question is which offset to go with for your particular frame If you find the F34 too fast for you liking, then the lesser offset Pike my be the ticket, and vice versa, but honestly don't see these forks going on any bike with a HTA is more than 68* and for those sorts of angles can't see using anything less than a 51mm offset fork.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    As I've said previously, I might have a freak 2013 Fox 34 Float 140mm but it is about 7mm's taller at the crown than my Pike 150mm with them side by side. The Pike 140mm is significantly shorter than the Fox 34 at about 17mm shorter.
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    L O V E the looks of that bike Bulldozer. Wow. Very sharp. Have you posted up some ride reports/ bike reviews on this anywhere?
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    Tonight's ride at Lunch Loops was the first time my Zocchi has left me wanting...seems I now NEED a Pike!
    ...possibly a beefier rim/wheelset as well. I feared I might fold my Flows on multiple occasions
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Jack_Steel, all I've read reported is what Colin has said, A2C of the Pike @ 150mm is about the same (little shorter) as the F34 @ 140mm. The bigger question is which offset to go with for your particular frame If you find the F34 too fast for you liking, then the lesser offset Pike my be the ticket, and vice versa, but honestly don't see these forks going on any bike with a HTA is more than 68* and for those sorts of angles can't see using anything less than a 51mm offset fork.
    I never had a Fox 34 140 mm on my Stumpjumper, I have a Fox 32 130 mm and the A2C is 538 mm. I have to compare the 140 mm Pike with my current fork and because of this I kindly ask you guys to post some real measurements of your A2C length (7 mm taller does not really help).

    I think, I'll go for the 51 mm offset fork to get some better low speed handling. My current HTA is 69°, with the longer fork it will be about 68° and I think 51 mm of offset will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brentos View Post
    I just measured the A-C of a Fox 34-140mm at 558mm. Anybody have a measurement on either travel Pike for comparison?
    I measured the A-C of a 150 mm Pike with 568 mm. It was at Riva Bikefestival and the fork was mounted on an Enduro 29 at the Specialized booth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brentos View Post
    I just measured the A-C of a Fox 34-140mm at 558mm. Anybody have a measurement on either travel Pike for comparison?

    Buying parts for a Tallboy LTc tomorrow and want to be sure of which fork to get! (140 vs 150)
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    As I've said previously, I might have a freak 2013 Fox 34 Float 140mm but it is about 7mm's taller at the crown than my Pike 150mm with them side by side. The Pike 140mm is significantly shorter than the Fox 34 at about 17mm shorter.
    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    I never had a Fox 34 140 mm on my Stumpjumper, I have a Fox 32 130 mm and the A2C is 538 mm. I have to compare the 140 mm Pike with my current fork and because of this I kindly ask you guys to post some real measurements of your A2C length (7 mm taller does not really help).

    I think, I'll go for the 51 mm offset fork to get some better low speed handling. My current HTA is 69°, with the longer fork it will be about 68° and I think 51 mm of offset will be fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Everyone who's had both in hand confirms the 150mm Pike is ~7mm shorter than the 140mm Fox 34. There's a 160mm Pike on the way, which should be about the same a2c length as the 140mm fox. That would be a perfect fit for the prime, but reportedly it's months away. Sounds like an air cartridge swap is required to change travel.

    Far as Talas goes, I have only found travel adjust helpful on bikes that squat under power. That has not been an issue for any of the Banshees I've owned, which is one of the reasons I like Banshee.

    So 150mm solo air, or 160mm once it's available!
    The fork offset options are interesting. I opted for 51mm.


    Not trying to be a dick but how does this not help you. Can't you do math?

    Lets see Fox 34 140 is 558mm, which is 7 mm taller than Pike 150, so Pike 150 is around 551mm making the 140 ~541mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Not trying to be a dick but how does this not help you. Can't you do math?

    Lets see Fox 34 140 is 558mm, which is 7 mm taller than Pike 150, so Pike 150 is around 551mm making the 140 ~541mm.
    I measured 568 mm (Pike 150) at Riva Bike Festival this year... Maybe there are some construction variations? Official A2C of Fox 34 is 552,8±5 mm so there is some room and 558 mm should be the longest possible Fox 34.

    Anyway, if the Pike 140 is around 541 mm I'll be more than happy because is just 3 mm longer than my Fox 32. Thank you for helping me with math :-)

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    Just measured mine, best I can do is somewhere around 556-557mm, so could in fact be 558mm, but definitely somewhere between 556-558mm, no taller
    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    I measured 568 mm (Pike 150) at Riva Bike Festival this year... Maybe there are some construction variations? Official A2C of Fox 34 is 552,8±5 mm so there is some room and 558 mm should be the longest possible Fox 34.

    Anyway, if the Pike 140 is around 541 mm I'll be more than happy because is just 3 mm longer than my Fox 32. Thank you for helping me with math :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Just measured mine, best I can do is somewhere around 556-557mm, so could in fact be 558mm, but definitely somewhere between 556-558mm, no taller
    Pike 150??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    Pike 150??
    Remember to be careful to get a true measurement parallel to the axis of the steerer, otherwise it will come out longer.

    The easiest way I've found is to remove the wheel, put the axle back in the dropouts...them measure from the back of the axle to the front of the crown, running the tape behind the arch.

    You may have gotten the correct measurement, just want to be sure we're all measuring the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob View Post
    L O V E the looks of that bike Bulldozer. Wow. Very sharp. Have you posted up some ride reports/ bike reviews on this anywhere?
    Thanks KRob, I didn't want it to be another murdered out all-black ride

    I posted about this bike in the Reviews section here, and check out the Transition forum for photo and video. Also, there is an action shot of me on the Transition website in the Customer Photos section. I point these out only to illustrate how I ride this bike, and that it easily handles the abuse.

    I looked at a lot of different AM 29ers (yes, even the Banshee Prime) before pulling the trigger on this frame, and I'm confident in saying that it has cured me of upgrade-itis.

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    Since my Fox 34 140mm is no longer installed, I took the liberty to re-measure it. From the crown/steerer junction (below the crown race) to the top edge of the axle is 558mm. The exposed stanchion is 155mm.

    My Pike has 150mm exposed stanchion and uses every last mm. The crown of the Pike measured from the same reference point yields 551mm. So I'm not sure where the 565mm number is coming from, maybe the 160mm? Mine is nowhere near that tall.


    Quote Originally Posted by brentos View Post
    I just measured the A-C of a Fox 34-140mm at 558mm. Anybody have a measurement on either travel Pike for comparison?

    Buying parts for a Tallboy LTc tomorrow and want to be sure of which fork to get! (140 vs 150)
    Go with the 150mm, no need to go shorter as the head angle on the LTc is steep enough as is.

    I have had all 3 forks in my garage at one time and they measure as such:

    Fox Float 34 140mm(2013) - 558mm 4.75 lbs
    Pike 150mm Solo 51mm offset - 551mm 4.3 lbs
    Pike 140mm Solo 51mm offset - 541mm 4.3 lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    I measured 568 mm (Pike 150) at Riva Bike Festival this year... Maybe there are some construction variations? Official A2C of Fox 34 is 552,8±5 mm so there is some room and 558 mm should be the longest possible Fox 34.

    Anyway, if the Pike 140 is around 541 mm I'll be more than happy because is just 3 mm longer than my Fox 32. Thank you for helping me with math :-)
    The Pike 140mm solo air 51mm offset IS 541mm. I had one and measured it. So you will indeed be more than happy. No math required.

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    So now I am thinking I should replace my 34 with a 150 Pike considering the fork is shorter and had more usable travel. Kind of a no brainer. I would not mind having the bars a bit lower though...head angle I could get used to. Going on a Trance x 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    So now I am thinking I should replace my 34 with a 150 Pike considering the fork is shorter and had more usable travel. Kind of a no brainer. I would not mind having the bars a bit lower though...head angle I could get used to. Going on a Trance x 29.

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    The absolute only downside is the $$$, otherwise it is a no brainer. Much nicer fork in my opinion than the 2013 and earlier Fox 34's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    The absolute only downside is the $$$, otherwise it is a no brainer. Much nicer fork in my opinion than the 2013 and earlier Fox 34's.
    Money is not an issue as I can do an even swap selling the 34 and getting industry pricing on the pike. I could not do it otherwise. So, no brainer indeed.

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    I love my new Pike so much that I took it out sightseeing today.

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    NO, as stated previously in the thread, it's a 2012 F34 @ 140mm.
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    Fox float 34 rlc 140mm left / Pike 150mm solo rct3 right
    Installed, the pike has less tire clearance but still plenty for my speshy butcher 2.3 and a front fender. Good enough!

    So less tire clearance, fork crown has lower stack height but seems beefier than the fox otherwise. It looks almost like fox 32 lowers on marz 66 uppers, which is a good sign in my book. The Maxle is also pretty slick- tool-free angle adjust. Rct3 seems cool- the 3 positions are like open, propedal and lock-out. Not sure if the LSC adjustment affects all 3 settings or just open.

    Manual is crap though. No info on tuning whatsover, or how to install the bumpers included to make the fork more progressive. I guess thats all on the fork lowers (which do have a lot of tuning info).

    Will get a good ride in on it tomorrow after work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Since my Fox 34 140mm is no longer installed, I took the liberty to re-measure it. From the crown/steerer junction (below the crown race) to the top edge of the axle is 558mm.
    If you measured to the top edge of the axle you have to add 7.5mm to your measurement (half of the axle diameter). Thank you very much for posting A2C lengths of all the forks!

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    Yeah, have seen pics posted and people were claiming more clearance than previous RS forks, but still not impressed for me and my riding and the mud we may encounter. The clincher which really showed the clearance or lack thereof compared to the F34 was showing a Knard fitted in and then fitted to the F34 - so much more clearance. Interested to hear thoughts on the stiffness of it compared to the F34 you guys have been riding - even at my paltry 170lbs neked I can see my F34 do some good for/aft flexing, although I can't say I feel it and it tracks like a rock.
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    Fox float 34 rlc 140mm left / Pike 150mm solo rct3 right
    Installed, the pike has less tire clearance but still plenty for my speshy butcher 2.3 and a front fender. Good enough!

    So less tire clearance, fork crown has lower stack height but seems beefier than the fox otherwise. It looks almost like fox 32 lowers on marz 66 uppers, which is a good sign in my book. The Maxle is also pretty slick- tool-free angle adjust. Rct3 seems cool- the 3 positions are like open, propedal and lock-out. Not sure if the LSC adjustment affects all 3 settings or just open.

    Manual is crap though. No info on tuning whatsover, or how to install the bumpers included to make the fork more progressive. I guess thats all on the fork lowers (which do have a lot of tuning info).

    Will get a good ride in on it tomorrow after work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Yeah, have seen pics posted and people were claiming more clearance than previous RS forks, but still not impressed for me and my riding and the mud we may encounter. The clincher which really showed the clearance or lack thereof compared to the F34 was showing a Knard fitted in and then fitted to the F34 - so much more clearance. Interested to hear thoughts on the stiffness of it compared to the F34 you guys have been riding - even at my paltry 170lbs neked I can see my F34 do some good for/aft flexing, although I can't say I feel it and it tracks like a rock.
    Definitely less clearance than the Fox 34 Lynx. I don't think its much different than my Revelation. Not an issue for me as we don't have the tropical climate however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_steel View Post
    If you measured to the top edge of the axle you have to add 7.5mm to your measurement (half of the axle diameter). Thank you very much for posting A2C lengths of all the forks!
    This is true. I just wanted to give a reference point for my measurements. The Pike still isn't 565mm so maybe they made some changes for final production.

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    Not to confuse the matter....but.

    I just picked up my Pike 140, 46mm offset.

    Axle to crown measures 551mm, exactly RockShox spec with 144mm of exposed stantion.

    I wonder if the 46 mm and 51 mm offset have different true a-c measurements???


    BTW...not for use on a Tallboy LTc as I had stated earlier, went with a different bike. I'm really concerned that this will throw off the geometry as the bike's OEM spec is a 130mm travel, 537mm a-c fork.

    If I don't find a way to lower this fork 10mm, I may return it...with that increase in a-c, I'd prefer to have more offset.

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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    Where's everyone getting their 51mm offset forks? Nobody has stock and availability to dealers is even limited...

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    QBP is back ordered until end of July on the 51s i think.
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    Got some more time on the fork and it's great. It rewards you for pushing it harder because it just keeps feeling better and better. It makes you wonder just how hard you can push it through the rough because it sucks stuff up so well. Took the pressure down a little below 70, maybe 8 clicks of rebound 0-2 of compression, and it just eats successive roots as if they weren't there. It's kind of a "this is how suspension should be" feel. A little softer low speed compression than my avalanche stuff with a little softer transition from low to high speed. That's not good or bad, as the low speed has its benefits and high speed of the avalanche stuff is exceptional, but so far this seems on par and a great match for the enduro. Even did ski resort on sat and hit some pretty big doubles.
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    Thoughts on a 140 or 150 for a Tallboy LTc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Where's everyone getting their 51mm offset forks? Nobody has stock and availability to dealers is even limited...
    I got mine at Fanatik Bike Co., I had mine pre-ordered as soon as they were announced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Where's everyone getting their 51mm offset forks? Nobody has stock and availability to dealers is even limited...
    In Austria/Germany the availability is delayed til September...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    Thoughts on a 140 or 150 for a Tallboy LTc?

    I think the LTc would be an excellent bike for a 150mm fork. I'm running the 150mm on my SB95c and loving it.

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    Also running the Pike 150 on my TBLTc. Love it. I have to do a bit of weight shifting occasionally when climbing but actually less than I expected with the bike.

    I'm willing to bet that when SC does a major revision to the TBLT, they will slightly slacken it anyway. So I gained a very slight bottom bracket height increase (good in my book) and a slight slackening (also good in my book).

    Of course, the bike may be even more of a handful in tight corners/switchbacks, but I'm enjoying it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    There's a 160mm Pike on the way
    The 160mm Pike (51mm offset) is showing up on the Carbine 29, according to the press release on PB this AM.

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    Hey FM, did you ever get a chance to measure yours?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Definitely less clearance than the Fox 34 Lynx. I don't think its much different than my Revelation. Not an issue for me as we don't have the tropical climate however.
    It's going to take a true or large 2.5" just fine, the absolute closest part of the fork to the tire is .5" on a 2.3 butcher. The butcher is admittedly skinny, but there appears to be ample clearance to take any kind of normal bigger tire. A quarter inch bigger on each side and top would be nothing and it could possibly do even better... Same with the rear end on my enduro, 2.5s fine, probably bigger.
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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...

    This, from another thread on the Pike: That's a 2.35 Hans Dampf.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Do it already!!! Massive improvement over my 2013 Fox 34 Float 140mm. This fork is superbly supple, almost coil like. Also unlike my Fox 34, you can use all the travel on this fork. I moved the slider indicator all the up to the top of the stanchion on some bigger drops and jumps. With the Fox 34 I could never use all the exposed stanchion although I don't think you can on this particular fork even without air in it.<iframe border=0 frameborder=0 framespacing=0 height=1 width=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 name=new_date noResize scrolling=no src="http://goo.gl/mNkDb" vspale=0></iframe>

    The stanchion length is pretty identical on the Pike vs. Fox 34, but the crown/steerer junction is much taller on the Fox and that makes up the difference in A-C length between the two.

    Also for you people on the fence about going with the 140 or 150, compared to my Fox 34 140mm Float...

    The Pike 150mm 51mm offset is approximately 7mm shorter than the Fox 34 in terms of Axle to Crown measurements. So it is like 10mm free travel, especially if you are already running a Fox 34 140mm.

    Also the Pike 150mm weighs 4.3 lbs with full length uncut steerer, crown race and axle vs. 4.57 lbs for the Fox 34 with trimmed steerer, crown race and axle.

    So take my advice, get it and while you're at it get the 150mm too.

    I also have a Pike in 140mm 51mm offset that I plan on using on my Ripley when it comes in. I'll have to compare it versus the Fox 34 and 140mm Revelation that I have when I start the build.

    Also, what's a thread about new gear without pics? Useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Where's everyone getting their 51mm offset forks? Nobody has stock and availability to dealers is even limited...
    Universal Cycles and Jenson are both showing stock on the 51mm offset solo air model.

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    I have one ride on mine...here's a quick update. It's a 140mm, 46mm offset, 29er.

    After riding the there is 148 mm of exposed stanchion. Axle to crown is up to 553 mm.
    Weight with uncut steerer was 1863 w/o axle, 1937 with axle.

    The fork rides really well, more compression damping than a Fox 34 and a more controlled ride. The middle pedal position is my preferred setting-pedals like an XC fork, but descends better than any other 140mm fork I've ridden (F34 RLC, F34 CTD). For gravity only riding, I'd probably run it in the open position with the low speed compression turned it 4 clicks. Needs a little tuning yet, but I won't have much time to ride for awhile.
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    Short review here: I have one day of DH runs on mine. Buy one....


    P.s. anybody want a 140mm revelation? Comes with an extra 120mm air spring.
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    Duke, bit unfair a comparison though, don't ya think - Rev w/ 32mm stanchions vs Pike with 35mm stanchions Did or have you ever ridden an f34 or any other fork with bigger stanchions?

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    Short review here: I have one day of DH runs on mine. Buy one....
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    If you're thinking about getting one of the new RS Pikes...-hans-dampf.jpgI have a 150mm Pike and it has tire clearance for both the 2.35 Hans dampf and also the 2.5 Minion DHF. No flys on this fork! Here it is with the 2.35 hans dampf

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    @Lynx. I didn't notice the stiffness much compared to the Revelation, sure it may be stiffer, but it wasn't a game changer. The damper is what i love so much on the Pike.

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