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    How can this be?

    Bumped into Devin Lenz yesterday. He was on his Behemoth. I was on my Behemoth. He had Exi's on his bike. So did I.

    I had a BW 1.3 on my bike.

    He had a Fox 36 on his bike.

    ???

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    Is it just me or is that hub eccentric?

    We need an explanation here!

    Padre is freaking out right now.

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    answers NOW!!!

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    OMG! could this be an eno ecc thru axle front hub?
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    As long as the tire fits in the lowers without rubbing the casting, one could probably use some plastic or aluminum spacers to limit the travel somehow, a la the Maverick forks. That's my guess. That thing has so much travel that even if one limited the stroke to prevent the tire from contacting the crown he'd still have one heck of a stiff and pretty light 29er fork with five or so inches of travel. It's still way too expensive IMO, even it can be rigged to fit a 29er.

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    Nah....someone didn't make a huge off-center front hub just to add length and tire clearance to an existing fork. That would be too smart, and an outrage that I hadn't come up with it first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    Is it just me or is that hub off center?

    We need an explanation here!

    Padre is freaking out right now.

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    Very interesting! Would need a new caliper mount.
    How is the hub center prevented from turning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Very interesting! Would need a new caliper mount.
    How is the hub center prevented from turning?
    As for the caliper....is it possible that he's using a 7" rotor with a 6" caliper mount? Or 8 and 7? Something along those lines?

    Man, this is getting weird. I love how Mike exits stage left just as things start to get unexplainable:-)! Always one to leave us in suspense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AteMrYeats
    As long as the tire fits in the lowers without rubbing the casting, one could probably use some plastic or aluminum spacers to limit the travel somehow, a la the Maverick forks. That's my guess. That thing has so much travel that even if one limited the stroke to prevent the tire from contacting the crown he'd still have one heck of a stiff and pretty light 29er fork with five or so inches of travel. It's still way too expensive IMO, even it can be rigged to fit a 29er.
    If the tire fits in the stock arch you should not need to reduce the travel of the fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    As for the caliper....is it possible that he's using a 7" rotor with a 6" caliper mount? Or 8 and 7? Something along those lines?

    Man, this is getting weird. I love how Mike exits stage left just as things start to get unexplainable:-)! Always one to leave us in suspense.

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    Hard to say. It is not clear how much the alignment change is.

    This system would let the hub designer to change the fork rake.

    I am wondering about the rotor mounting with the offset axle. Larger bolt circle diameter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Hard to say. It is not clear how much the alignment change is.

    This system would let the hub designer to change the fork rake.

    I am wondering about the rotor mounting with the offset axle. Larger bolt circle diameter?


    MC does know how to get the buzz started!
    You're probably right about the larger bolt circle diameter. That appears to be a Hope rotor and I recall that their "Bug Un" hubs require a large BCD 5 bolt rotor? Hmmm..

    VERY interesting. It's still puzzling in terms of how this system is keeping the hub from slipping.

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    Wouldn't some multi-part rotors allow to be taken apart and the outer, actual rotor, to be bolted directly to the hub?

    Someone really wanted to use a Fox fork for what they don't plan to ever make one...
    Looks to me like the axle is well over an inch off-center. Probably room for the same tire size as without the 29" conversion, 2.5-2.6?

    Semi offtopic : if the new White Brother MAC system is what we expect it to be, what reason are we left with to want a Fox? Just for sponsorships sake? This is from someone who never rode one, thus doesn't understand the hype :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Very interesting! Would need a new caliper mount.
    How is the hub center prevented from turning?
    I am guessing that the axle is solid in the eccentric, not loose, so that when you tighten the thru-axle clamps it effectively locks the eccentric in whatever position it's in. That'd scare me though, you'd think it would slip.

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    Is a splined interface out of the question?

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    Ahhhhhh!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee
    Bumped into Devin Lenz yesterday. He was on his Behemoth. I was on my Behemoth. He had Exi's on his bike. So did I.

    I had a BW 1.3 on my bike.

    He had a Fox 36 on his bike.

    ???

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    More info please

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    Every morning I get up and check to see if something new has been unveiled on the board and most mornings I am dissapointed...... but not today!

    I would like to see a pic of the tire clearance at the arch.

    Spill the beans Mike, how does it work?

    And it can be "Pushed" for increased perormance.
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    Exactly

    my concern. Further, the obviously place for it to rotate is upwards towards the arch, not downards.

    Regardless, cool shyte.

    So, did it ride better MC (assuming you rode it)? Given that you've been privy to Blackbox WB forks for a while your read would be mucho appreciated.

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    That'd scare me though, you'd think it would slip.
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    Better question...... when can we get one?

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    Splined is a great idea, but I'm wondering how the axle is secured in the dropout without slipping. Maybe there is a key that fits in the clamping slot?

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    According to the fox site it is a steped 20mm through axel. Maybe the steps give it enough resistance against rotating.
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    Ooops...didn't let the picture load enough. It's definately an eccentric or offset hub. Boy, do I feel stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mward
    I am guessing that the axle is solid in the eccentric, not loose, so that when you tighten the thru-axle clamps it effectively locks the eccentric in whatever position it's in. That'd scare me though, you'd think it would slip.
    Though you still need to remove the axle to remove the wheel from the fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    You're probably right about the larger bolt circle diameter. That appears to be a Hope rotor and I recall that their "Bug Un" hubs require a large BCD 5 bolt rotor? Hmmm..

    VERY interesting. It's still puzzling in terms of how this system is keeping the hub from slipping.

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    Looks like there is room in an Avid 203 rotor to cut out the center and drill new holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    What about interference with the DT on bottom-out?
    Depends on the frame.

    But if the tire is going to hit the DT it does not matter what fork is on the bike. The fork crown is in the same place no matter the amount of travel or what size wheel it was designed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    If the tire fits in the stock arch you should not need to reduce the travel of the fork.
    What about interference with the DT on bottom-out?

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