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    Honzo, mason, carver, yelli, nimble

    There seems to be a good selection of short chainstay "AM-type" 29ers (I'm not extremely conversant with these bikes in that I've never ridden one and am just getting back to the larger wheels). Anyone know of a more XC-oriented short chainstay production frame (Other than the OS Blackbuck)? Please feel free to flame away if I've misstated anything or misrepresented any manufacturers.

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    Just sux the Mason, Carver, and Honzo all have 142mm rears.

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    I wouldn't necessarily call 142mm rears a downside.

    As far as a more xc oriented short-stayed bike, I think based on material (and thus weight) either the yelli or the carver could be more xc, depending on the build. Some light wheels, 2x10 and a 100mm fork is about as xc as you're going to get with any of these bikes. By nature they're built to be playful rather than racers though.

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    Don't forget the soon to be released Niner ROS 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Just sux the Mason, Carver, and Honzo all have 142mm rears.
    Not really. Just get the standard dropouts that come on the Unit or the 2012 Honzo, which is 135x10 QR. And I'm sure you would have no trouble trading with a 2012 Honzo owner for some anyways.

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    Honzo, mason, carver, yelli, nimble

    Chromag surface can go on the list. Basically a steel yelli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstews View Post
    I wouldn't necessarily call 142mm rears a downside.
    It's is when you're wheel is setup 135mm and can't be converted and would cost $400+ to get a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Not really. Just get the standard dropouts that come on the Unit or the 2012 Honzo, which is 135x10 QR. And I'm sure you would have no trouble trading with a 2012 Honzo owner for some anyways.
    How does that work?

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    Exactly what I'm after - short chainstay/slacker ha geo, ss, without the am burliness. Something like Cotic Solaris/Simple with different geo.

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    For the OP, the Karate Monkey and the Kona Unit (the older models, the new ones are getting slack) both have shortish chainstays and steeper than slack head angles.

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    Find a Gen 1 N9 and call it done. It's slack but it doesn't ride that way.
    I may or may not be laughing at you.

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    I ride my Gen N9 on all kinds of trails, and I'm really not sure if I'm an "XC" guy, an "all mountain" guy, or whatever the hell the term is. I ride a mountain bike, and like the way the slackish/short stays handles, everywhere.

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    I'm hoping the release of the new N9 will inundate the market with gen 1's. Probably wishful thinking. I foolishly missed out on one a few weeks ago.

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    Thanks, that's probably the best option besides custom. The reason I asked is that my Blackbuck (17.25" CS/reported 71 degree head angle) handles well for me, and I think a shorter CS might be even better, but don't want to spend $1500+ to find out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jstews View Post
    I'm hoping the release of the new N9 will inundate the market with gen 1's. Probably wishful thinking. I foolishly missed out on one a few weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob View Post
    Find a Gen 1 N9 and call it done. It's slack but it doesn't ride that way.
    If you can help me located one size L or XL I'd be forever in your debt. Do a fellow mountaineer a solid...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstews View Post
    I'm hoping the release of the new N9 will inundate the market with gen 1's. Probably wishful thinking. I foolishly missed out on one a few weeks ago.
    Fear not, according to the proverbial grape vine, Canfield will re-release the 'classic' gen 1 N9 next spring. There will also be a carbon incarnation of the famous Canfield geometry.
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    Honzo, mason, carver, yelli, nimble

    Carbon?? Ooooohhhh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulljammer View Post
    Fear not, according to the proverbial grape vine, Canfield will re-release the 'classic' gen 1 N9 next spring. There will also be a carbon incarnation of the famous Canfield geometry.
    I'm in the market for a new frame...need one asap really so next spring won't work for me. The geometry looks sweet though. What's a good price on a used gen 1 N9? There's one for sale semi-local to me for $500.

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    OK if it's perfect, but IMO not a screaming deal since they listed for $650 new. Still, it's just about the only horse in the race now.


    Quote Originally Posted by SS State Of Mind View Post
    I'm in the market for a new frame...need one asap really so next spring won't work for me. The geometry looks sweet though. What's a good price on a used gen 1 N9? There's one for sale semi-local to me for $500.

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    Just scored a honzo with a Marz 44 micro ti 140mm fork over the classifieds.

    Should be here tuesday!!

    Itll be built up singlespeed with some spare parts...
    Nancy wides, 240hubs, XTR cranks, and KS LEV post...

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    Thanks for your responses; looks like another of my answers to questions nobody asked. Walt builds these, so one can be located if the urge gets too intense.

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    Transition TransAm 29?

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    Thanks; the Blackbuck is 71 (or so) degrees/17.25" CS (I know these two measurements don't define a chassis), and I was looking for something in the 71 degree/16.5" CS area.


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    Transition TransAm 29?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gulljammer View Post
    Fear not, according to the proverbial grape vine, Canfield will re-release the 'classic' gen 1 N9 next spring. There will also be a carbon incarnation of the famous Canfield geometry.
    Any idea when the carbon Canfield may show up?

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